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Rt!
13-06-2004, 09:40 AM
Motorists face the sin bin
June 13, 2004

POLICE will use a wheelie bin to catch speeding motorists.

A hi-tech camera will be hidden in the plastic bin – resembling those used by thousands of households – and stationed on roadsides throughout South Australia.

Narrow suburban streets and other roads difficult to access by standard speed cameras and unmarked police cars will be targeted, police say.

"It's the next generation of camera for us," said Acting Assistant Commissioner Col Cornish from Operations Support Service, which oversees speed and red light cameras.

"We want to make people aware that we will use any method at our disposal to reduce serious injury and collision on our roads.

"It will be used in narrow streets and locations where a normal vehicle set-up could be hazardous or not possible."

According to State Budget papers, police expect to reap an an additional $22.5 million in all fines and penalties next financial year (2004-05) – to raise a record $77.8 million.

Mr Cornish said the new $120,000 wheelie bin camera, which was listed in the Budget papers, would be part of a stepped-up traffic campaign.

"Most of the cameras on the roadside (now) are older-style cameras," he said.

"This gives us a greater memory capacity, image capacity and it's much easier for us to download."

Funded and maintained by Transport SA, the new camera - which will be installed in a white bin - will arrive from Germany by the end of the year.

It will be trialled before it goes into operation early next year.

Mr Cornish said the idea for the covert bin camera came after discussions between police and Transport SA.

He was said he was sure it was already in use elsewhere, but could not detail exactly where. "It would be used in other areas of the world – I've no doubt that other people use it in other styles (aside from the bin)," he said.

"The bin is really just to keep the elements off the digital camera."

Notoriously dangerous roads such as Gorge Rd, in the Adelaide Hills, and the Adelaide to Victor Harbor road would be among those targeted with the new high-tech camera.

Narrow suburban streets with 40km/h speed limits, such as those in Unley, would also be more easily accessible with this style of camera.

Motorists will be made aware that they have passed the wheelie bin camera through the normal use of speed camera signs.

"The Gorge Rd, in particular, has a history of accidents and fatalities," Mr Cornish said. "The camera will be used there (and elsewhere) as part of the campaign to reduce road trauma."

Budget papers show police will spend an extra 6463 hours, making a total of 83,000, on speed detection next financial year. This will involve using mobile cameras, red light cameras, radars and lasers.

An additional 108,000 expiation notices for traffic offences are expected.

RAA traffic and safety manager Chris Thomson said he supported the introduction of the bin camera.

"It is another way of speed detection aimed primarily at those drivers who are not deterred by highly visible enforcement techniques such as laser guns," he said.

"I'm not at all worried by it and nor should anybody else be. It's been tried elsewhere with success."

Opposition police spokesman Robert Brokenshire said the State Government should be spending on additional police patrols rather than novel speed detectors.

"While we support initiatives to slow down speeding motorists, let's get serious about black spot areas, funding more traffic police and better roads," Mr Brokenshire said.

"Rather than the Government getting its ideas on road safety from watching Maxwell Smart, they should have their focus on infrastructure and police resourcing."

Sunday Mail (SA)


http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9831805%255E26462,00.html

Lovely, they arent shy about revenue raising now. Some of the crap thats said in that article is pure wack.

Old Kiwi
13-06-2004, 09:45 AM
"It is another way of speed detection aimed primarily at those drivers who are not deterred by highly visible enforcement techniques such as laser guns," he said.

WTF

All zero of them. If they wont slow down for a cop, why will they slow down for a f*$king wheelie bin :bash:

Goggles
13-06-2004, 10:13 AM
what happens if I dump my "rubbish" in the wheelie bin??

Old Kiwi
13-06-2004, 10:21 AM
Hey, in the USA, anything you put out in the rubbish on the street becomes public property. I wonder if the same rules apply here, I could use a speed camera to make my house safer (most accidents occur in the home) :lol:

LSX-438
13-06-2004, 10:22 AM
we may as well put infringement detection technology in our cars and set up direct debits - this sort of thing is the thin end of the wedge they will eventually shove right up our ar$e

Glenn@Autowerks
13-06-2004, 10:24 AM
Get the council to come and empty the bin :lol:

V82xist
13-06-2004, 10:25 AM
I'd slip the Garbos a $100 to empty that bin :D
They are making a big mistake with that decision and I hope the state government gets voted out because of it. I'm sure there would be a council law preventing a bin being left out on the footpath 24/7. I would also object if it was near my home. Have they completely forgotten how to Police and what their job really is, Police are not mean't to be Tax colectors they are supposed to serve and protect the community against criminals and the crimes they commit. By law you are not a criminal if you exceed the speed limit as you don't get convicted of any crime. Polititions are trying to get the general public to hate the Police force which I think is a crime.
:soap:

XLR8 V8
13-06-2004, 12:04 PM
Well we all saw the photos posted up ages ago of this exact setup used overseas - so of course our Minister for Fund Raising ... I mean Minister for Road Safety :rolleyes: saw the same thing and thought "CHA-CHING! $$$ "

vh-holden
13-06-2004, 12:36 PM
given a choice between hitting another car and a bin, i'd take the bin. anyone willing to stop infront of me next to the bin............?

C4B
13-06-2004, 01:25 PM
They'd be very uncomfortable for the copper to sit inside for 8 hours. But I'm not one to rubbish the police......... :lol:

Mav
13-06-2004, 04:07 PM
This sucks....

Honestly, I think I will get the company van and hunt these things down.

I bet I would be able to park over the camera's field of view.

Just look for the big chain.

SSbaby
14-06-2004, 12:04 PM
I, for one, will welcome the idea... I'm sick of having GTRs, VL turbos and VN V8s driving twice the speed limit in our residential street. BUT the problem with the idea is that our bins only get picked up on a certain weekday. It won't stop the hoons unless the council introduces permanent speed hazards everywhere.

dean
14-06-2004, 12:12 PM
I found this article in the Herald-Sun: http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,9827187%255E2862,00.html

They rejected the idea of these bins because "it's not very sporting". Looks like the state govt have softenend their stance slightly, judging by the tone of the article. I think after the fiasco with the fixed cameras would be the reasoning to try and win back public support.

vh-holden
14-06-2004, 02:47 PM
I, for one, will welcome the idea... I'm sick of having GTRs, VL turbos and VN V8s driving twice the speed limit in our residential street.

You do have a point - as long as they are only used on residential streets.

VXEXEC350
14-06-2004, 02:57 PM
I, for one, will welcome the idea... I'm sick of having GTRs, VL turbos and VN V8s driving twice the speed limit in our residential street. BUT the problem with the idea is that our bins only get picked up on a certain weekday. It won't stop the hoons unless the council introduces permanent speed hazards everywhere.

While I am with you on that point, a marked patrol car parked on the side of the road will have the effect of SLOWING TRAFFIC DOWN, for a third of the cost of these bins and all the bins do is take a photo of a potential child fatality so they can post out a fine.

Malcolmsp
14-06-2004, 03:38 PM
...and the patrol car may be handy should some low life be trying to remove the wheels from your car, break into your house, tag your fence with graffitti, beat the cr*p out of you or a myriad of other "crimes" that the wheelie bin will simply miss.

cya
Mal

VXEXEC350
14-06-2004, 03:55 PM
...and the patrol car may be handy should some low life be trying to remove the wheels from your car, break into your house, tag your fence with graffitti, beat the cr*p out of you or a myriad of other "crimes" that the wheelie bin will simply miss.

cya
Mal

ZACKLY The pleaze Farce should refocus...more importantly the Gun-Met

Nobby
14-06-2004, 04:00 PM
If I ever see one of these revenue raising devices I'm gonna chuck it in the boot and drive it to the tip.

TELL ME HOW FAST I'M GOING NOW BITCH!

Kirium
16-06-2004, 09:38 PM
It'd certainly be open season on the bin if I ever saw one...

I'd sell it on eBay... If I made even half of the cost camera ($60k) That'd be sweet!

The government are nothing but farking carnts...

VYSSBlack
16-06-2004, 11:26 PM
"Narrow suburban streets with 40km/h speed limits, such as those in Unley, would also be more easily accessible with this style of camera."

I would like to know how many fatal accidents would be prevented by the use of these cameras in Unleys narrow 40km/h streets. None I think. Just another way to steal our money and make us feel like we are the criminals. :cussing:

Drizzt
16-06-2004, 11:35 PM
I actually saw them trialing one of these cameras in a suburban street up around Knox about 18 months ago. I was in my mate's tarago and he had his 2 toddlers who make more mess than I've ever seen in one place in the back when we spied the camera coming the other way. My mate bangs the tarago around and empties the rubbish bin from the car full of snotty tissues, grotty plum stones and all into the bin/camera. :lol: :lol: :lol: It was at this point that a copper run out from around the corner to question what we were doing. He couldn't really fault us for doing the correct thing and using a rubbish bin rather than littering :D


Drizzt

plonkerchops
16-06-2004, 11:49 PM
When I was in my late teens , me and a few mates used to take great joy in the wee small hours of taking them for a ' ride' out the side of the car and running them into immoveable objects. Looks like it may be time for a bit of active reminiscing about the good old days :D

Rt!
17-06-2004, 12:06 AM
Well I rekon you can sell it on Ebay, I reckon itd be a pretty good business to franchise speed cameras.. lol
"Setup your own speed camera now! Earn $25000 a week from speeding fines!"

blownvn
17-06-2004, 09:04 AM
Ever seen what a couple of litres of petrol and a match does to a wheely bin? :mad:

nthnbeachesguy
17-06-2004, 09:31 AM
If I ever see one of these revenue raising devices I'm gonna chuck it in the boot and drive it to the tip.

TELL ME HOW FAST I'M GOING NOW BITCH!

I reckon that would be hilarious. Just quietly how are they going to keep tabs on their $120K investment unless they park in the same street anyways???? Seems like an excellent way to get ur revenge dont it. A wheelie bin there all by itself with the most hated "public safety" machine inside it.......... hmmm i wonder what i shall do. Burn it, cover it in momar sewercide, empty a council doggy litter bin into it, or take it for a trip to my place, ripp it to pieces, render them useless with a hammer and send it to the Roads and Traffic minister a piece at a time. :lol:

Space Pope
17-06-2004, 03:43 PM
Well the SA coppers must be up for a big crackdown on tailgaters now too. I heard on ABC radio they are aquiring new laser speed guns that also measure distance between cars. And at the risk of sounding like a sympathiser , this isn't before time!

I am sick to death of the amount of major multicar pile ups on the F3 (Sydney-Newcastle freeway). :mad:

I suspect that mosty are caused by people with absolutely no highway 'savy' and pace themselves way too close to the car ahead. Thing is , if you maintain a safe 3+ carlengths yourself, one of these dickheads will invariably cut in so you can't win really.

Slapping some of these idiots with a nice juicy fine might wake 'em up. :bash:

Ultimately education is the key though ...people who don't do regular highway work sometimes don't realise that the spacing required to remain safe at 100+ KPH is much more than that required at 60.

SSbaby
17-06-2004, 05:56 PM
Well the SA coppers must be up for a big crackdown on tailgaters now too. I heard on ABC radio they are aquiring new laser speed guns that also measure distance between cars. And at the risk of sounding like a sympathiser , this isn't before time!

I am sick to death of the amount of major multicar pile ups on the F3 (Sydney-Newcastle freeway). :mad:

I suspect that mosty are caused by people with absolutely no highway 'savy' and pace themselves way too close to the car ahead. Thing is , if you maintain a safe 3+ carlengths yourself, one of these dickheads will invariably cut in so you can't win really.

Slapping some of these idiots with a nice juicy fine might wake 'em up. :bash:

Ultimately education is the key though ...people who don't do regular highway work sometimes don't realise that the spacing required to remain safe at 100+ KPH is much more than that required at 60.

I'd be far more accepting if police fined drivers for tailgating instead of enforcing those stupid speed laws.

Actually, what am I saying - it's the stupid speed laws that contribute to the traffic congestion. Talk about a double edged sword.