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nvmysv8
21-06-2004, 08:25 PM
Does anyone know of a silicone free tyre shine.

Thanks
Jason

Ricko
21-06-2004, 08:30 PM
Go here http://www.concoursecarcare.com.au/category15_1.htm

its good stuff.

jsttry
21-06-2004, 08:48 PM
I think from memory the Megiuars Tyre Gel is silcone free. I know it keeps my tyres damn black and shiny.

Fonz
21-06-2004, 10:02 PM
There is a product called Forever Black. This is advertised as being silicone free and I have only seen it being sold at Autobarn so far.

glennbayard
22-06-2004, 02:14 PM
Careful re Stoners.........everything they offer for tires are silicone based ie I'm a US chemist, used to sell raw materials to this co. If I wanted to develop a auto business the # 1 product would be a non-silicone tire dressing. Turtle Wax had such a prroduct, acrylic based, was wonderful, lasted for several months, semi/rich sheen...........no longer on market, perhaps detrimental to the tire compound???? Good luck in your search.
Does anyone know of a silicone free tyre shine.

Thanks
Jason

Drewie
22-06-2004, 02:37 PM
Excuse the ignorance.....but what is the issue with the Silicone, I also notice that some of the interior protecterants are also labelled as 'Silicone Free' is there an issue with them as well?

Ricko
22-06-2004, 04:48 PM
Excuse the ignorance.....but what is the issue with the Silicone, I also notice that some of the interior protecterants are also labelled as 'Silicone Free' is there an issue with them as well?

"One of the most frequent comments I hear when I go to car club meetings and events is that silicone is bad for your car. It’s a common myth, from years gone by, that the mere presence of silicone near a car will cause the paint to shrivel up and fall off or prevent it from ever being repainted. These myths are false, but the latter is based on factual problems painters once experienced. The fact is that all modern automotive paints contain silicone as an ingredient to help the paint to spray and flow smoothly.

Most of the concerns people have about silicones and products that contain silicones stem from the days when lacquers were used as the primary car finish. Back then, if the surface wasn't properly prepared, residual silicones on the bodywork or in the shop environment would cause paint defects. The most common silicone induced problem is a small defect referred to as “fish eyes”.

shamelessly ripped from here, http://www.bettercarcare.com/articles.php?articleId=42

Silicone is no longer the nasty it once was as far as car care, goes and much of it was myth anyway.

nvmysv8
22-06-2004, 04:49 PM
Drewie

Silicone is very difficult to paint over. Once in the paint, it is very very difficult to remove. Smash repairers curse the crap

vh-holden
22-06-2004, 05:26 PM
i am under strict instructions at work not to spray tyre sheen on cars that are about to have paintwork done or spray it while the painter is around. the painters can smell it from miles away. as mentioned, it stuffs up the painting process.

the other problem i see is that dust and grease etc stick to the silicone stuff more.

Ghia351
22-06-2004, 06:18 PM
As an industrial chemist that manufacturers silicon based tyre dressings the main issue with such products are their water repellancy, hence with water based paints especially they will stop the paint bonding to the surface. Sprayed onto tyres they can possibly contact the rotors of brakes and hence reduce your braking force until all residue is removed. "Rooster" trails along the body work from excess application or slow drying is also an issue as in particular tyre dressings made with hydrocarbon solvents attract a great deal of dirt if not dry. If over-sprayed onto glass such as windscreens they can cause blurred vision through the glass which is an obvious no-no. Due to their natural water repellancy proper removal of silicon requires a solvent to lift it which can be a big nuisance.

Non-silicone based products can often be Glycerine based in a water/alcohol solution. They don’t last as long however are deemed safer from an O.H & S. issue due to lower flammability compared to commercial tyre dressings which can be upto 85-95% hydrocarbon solvent based.

I personally prefer water based silicone emulsion type surface dressings as they dry like a painted finish hence don’t attract dirt to the surface, last longer and have no safety issues from a flammable liquids consideration.