Foxtel Digital (RGB)

[chevypower]

Found a solution for those people still searching.. Scart to component YpPbPr or RGB does not work... you need a Scart to Scart lead (20 pin) with a conversion box that gets AC power and converts to VGA for Plasma and Projectors... for CRT TVs, I am not sure of a solution, but I believe SOME scart - S-video adaptors work... on 99% of CRTs you wont pick the difference between S/video and RGB

[HRTSEN]

Hi

How are you Chevypower? Ok I sell Scart to componenet converters and have NEVER tested them. Are you saying that the picture still goes through just not good quality or no picture at all?

I will test mine out on the weekend. I have a no name chinese rubbish model.

regards,

Richard
CLUBVX

[chevypower]

no picture on Scart to Component (with PACE model box) definately gotta go the electronic conversion to VGA

cheers

[double k]

hello. i have a panasonic tau 76cm widescreen tv with the 576p input.

i am getting digital in 1 week. my question is do i have to get any extra leads or do foxtel provide everything. and will i get sd with their cables .

thanx

[chevypower]

Panasonic used to make a TV with VGA input but not anymore... Foxtel Digital is only 576i anyway, use a Sony DVD player with 576p for that input - Panasonic dont make a PAL progressive DVD player yet or you could use that input for a HD set top box using component and switch the back of the box to the 576p output. You will need the Scart to S/video cable, but be careful an S/video input Scart Output cable is not the same as a cable that is for Scart input and S/video output... you need the latter

[Cobalt]

Pace boxes will not put out a signal that is compatible with y-pb-pr component.
Fox outputs an rgb signal in the same lines of the scart plug that those generic adapters use... Foxtel is planning on providing component support via software in the future but I have no ETA and then these connectors will work.

You can convert Scart RGB to Y-Pb-Pr but it requires an intelligent device to do it...and I have yet to find one priced cheaply that works acceptably....(ie better than just straight s-video) There is very little difference between component and s-video for tv connectors.... So I would use s-video till component becomes available from the pace boxes directly....Any scart to s-video (also known as s-vhs) adapter works fine.

[SV300]

What about amps that can up/down scale video input signals?

I have pre-wired my house for Dolby 6.1 and also bought a new amp that can do signal conversions for the specific task of handling my DVD, set-top box and Foxtel Digital inputs to the projector.

I hope that all this works now? I really need to work out what I can get out from Foxtel digital.

James

[Cobalt]

I have a Pioneer VSX-AX10 that can scale video from composite or svideo to component. This is the main reason I bougt this amp.... This is and does work with Foxtel digital.... I have it scaling from SVIDEO to COMPONENT....and picture quality is excellent.... The electronics that scale video are extremely expensive on their own.... A quality video scaler can set you back $6-7000 on its own thats why this Pioneer amp is such great value at $7000.00 even better when you can screw the guy down to $5000.....

This setup is in my Home Cinema and on a projector where quality is everything when scaled that large....220inch diagnal. I have a HD digital setop box and channel nine SD through that is barely different to channel nine through Fox Digital and the digital box uses Component.. HD is a very different story.

I have a projector in the bedroom that will accept scart rgb and the is no real noticible difference in the quality between tha cinema....and the image is the bedroom is smaller....

You can have a component type signal of varying quality..... So just being component doesnt guarentee that you will get a better picture....Both low quality interlaced signals and high def non interlaced signals can both travel down component signal leads....

Sorry for the length...... Hope this helps

[double k]

geez this is complicated stuff.

does foxtel provide these cables to set you up or do you have to buy your own?

also i will not be getting a digital picture if i connect the foxtel box to my tv. via these leads. is this right?

[double k]

one more thing this s - svhs cable or scart to s video, do foxtel provide this cable or would i need to buy it.

[Cobalt]

You will need to buy the adapter....... or make one.... I have the pinout somewhere.....pm me if interested and I will dig it out....

Foxtel provide only and scart to composite/right audio/left audio. It also has imputs from your vcr (due to macrovision encoding you can watch some Foxtel stuff through a VCR as it jitters intentionally to stop recording....) So there are six cables coming out of the scart adapter... I just unsoldered all these leads ad cut the end of and old s-video cable I had lying around and soldered the end to rigth pins on the scart plug. That easy.... You could leave the other cables there if you want composite out and r/l audio as the svideo uses diff pins in the scart plug.... You will also need to change the config of the Fox Box via the settings menu to make svideo work...... do this before you modify the plug or have the composite lead plugged so you can see the menu....


PS... If you are going to want 5.1 sound the fox box has no coaxial digital output you needs a optical 3.5mm din to toslink converter cable. that is if you have a spare optical input in your amplifier.....else it is only stereo for you......

[double k]

thanx for that. i will buy this cable. so it is the scart input to s/video output one right?

i do not really care about the 5.1 sound all i care about is the picture.

thanx again

[chevypower]

You have to buy the Scart- S/video cable yourself. But Foxtel will re-imburse you for it if you arrange it with them and then send them the receipt. As I said before you can't just use any S/video- Scart cable, as some only work the opposite way, I still stand by that after trying one, and Foxtel confirming that to be the case, hence why you see a switch to select which direction you want the signal to go on some adaptors.
Upscanners on AV receivers is a great idea.. primarily because it makes it more convenient to use... Marantz use broadcast quality video switching in their units to minimize picture deterioration. I am waiting for a Marantz 7.1 with ProLogic IIx which upscans to DVI (their top two DVD players now have DVI and do PAL progressive) - it's hard to buy stuff when you know whats coming out...

[Cobalt]

Scart uses in pins and out pins for most connections.... It is just a big connector that combines all the signals into one plug which makes life easy if all you stuff has scart ...In Europe most stuff is scart and that is where these pace boxes come from.....

Make sure you get a SCART to SVIDEO with a switch or ensure it for output from scart to svideo......

[double k]

sounds good. so scart goes into the fox box and the s video goes to the back of the tv.

i have to make sure that scart is the input and the s video is output.

dick smith will have these?

[double k]

one more thing. why the **** doesn't fox supply this connection. you would think that if it needs this connection that they would supply it.

[Cobalt]

One Word - MONEY

[Cobalt]

Tandy has a pretty good range of av stuff.....

Have not checked DS.... JB HiFi do aswell as does WOW SightnSound in Brisbane...(Dont know if there elsewhere in Aus)

DS may only have the bits to make them....

You will probably have to buy a scart-svideo adapter and an svideo cable....

[double k]

how much are they. i would say $30.00 tops

[Cobalt]

I payed $40 just for the adapter (heavy metal gold plated) and $25 for the cable same quality.... Plastic/Moulded should be way cheaper than that. so your bout on the money.....