Chevrolet Badging on Commodores

[xr8_forever]

Hi guys.

I've seen a few Commodores around town here in Melbourne with Chevrolet badges.. particularly on VY utes. My question is where do you get them from and why would anyone want to take the Holden badging off?

It's not just the badges on the panels but also the front grilles. I even saw a crewman with Chevy badges and the commodore badge on at the same time. It looked :eek:

Not having a go at anyone, just curious.

[YIIR8]

Different horses for different courses I spose.

[cutter bob]

when i was looking at buying a ute i drive one that even had chevrolet shaped twin exhaust tips...... couldn't say i was a big fan

[chevypower]

I think it looks too try-hard. Leave Holden badges on Holdens and Chevy badges on Chevys

[VX2VESS]

sold o/seas with this badging as chev same cars. just to be a bit different over here. not everyone want a car that looks exactly like everyone elses.

[chevypower]

Changing the badge doesnt change the looks, it just shows "I think i can fool myself, and hopefully everyone else that this car which looks like a Holden, that it may be a Chevy"

[Pooga]

I think it looks too try-hard. Leave Holden badges on Holdens and Chevy badges on Chevys


So cause its a Chev Engine we should leave the badges on the engine covers?

I think Chev Badges have always looked tough in the past on older vehicles, but on new cars not too sure, sometimes it can be a bit try hard.

[chevypower]

With that theory.. I never seen any VLs running around showing off Nissan badges...

[BigFella]

hmm i agree with all points raised.

im about to get rid of my gen 3 badges and put the GTO 5.7 badges.

just the 5.7 badge (not gto) under my indicators on each side...what u guys think?
but im keeping all other holden badges on. i just want sumthing different as im sick of the gen 3 badge and dont like the VY V8 badge...

[VFast]

The only real Chevy part of the car is the LS1 engine, so any Chev symbols should really be relegated to this only. The rest of the badging is just for a bit of personalising...

Each to their own, but for me, I will stick to the Chev badging on the engine :cool:

[Ls1CorpCruiser]

MUST AGREE...

I always thought it a bit :eek: :confused: not as bad as putting HSV badges on stock commodores or (even mock ups for that matter)...

However as they say different horses for different courses....

Might get meself a V-dub and whack some Porsche badges on it. After all they were both designed by the same guy's family.

:stick:

[XR6T8U]

I think the Holden badge looks a bit plain on a SS, ok for the normal models. The little blue Chevy badges add a bit of character to the car.
The engine is a Chevy. Its not XR8 drivers putting GT stripes on there cars. That’s try hard, something its not.
Cheers
Tony

[SSbaby]

I know it's being pedantic but the LS1 is NOT a Chevrolet engine but more correctly a GM engine. It's something that a lot of magazines even get wrong. It's official name is GM GenIII 5.7L LS1.
:cool:

[chevypower]

SSbaby, you are right. All GM engines have always been just GM engines and have always had that printed on the cylinder block (as far as i am aware)

[PepeLePew]

If you dont like a badge then remove it is my philosophy.

Nissan badges on VL's is a good point, never quite thought of it like that!!!

Though I did briefly entertain Chev badges on my old 240Z at one stage...it pays your ego to advertise occasionally :))))

[Pooga]

With that theory.. I never seen any VLs running around showing off Nissan badges...


Have a look in the last issue of Street Commodores :)

[YIIR8]

I know it's being pedantic but the LS1 is NOT a Chevrolet engine but more correctly a GM engine. It's something that a lot of magazines even get wrong. It's official name is GM GenIII 5.7L LS1.
:cool:

Holden called it GENIII

HSV called it LS1

read that somewhere, can't remember where though.

[Pooga]

Holden called it GENIII

HSV called it LS1

read that somewhere, can't remember where though.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Ls1CorpCruiser]

Holden called it GENIII

HSV called it LS1

read that somewhere, can't remember where though.

I would guess that would have come from the street coommodores or CCC forums... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[VX2VESS]

The only real Chevy part of the car is the LS1 engine, so any Chev symbols should really be relegated to this only. The rest of the badging is just for a bit of personalising...

Each to their own, but for me, I will stick to the Chev badging on the engine :cool:

and the gearboxs

[BLACK 346]

and the gearboxs

Arent the boxes made by Tremec, who were formerely
owned by Borg Warner?

[VX2VESS]

holden export the holden and a chevy, so they make a chevy in theory. who knows why, the ppl overseas all know it really a holden. they even do the same thing they want holden badges instead. Its sold as both so it is both, now its also a pontiac, it a 3 in car.
we can put holden chev and pontiac badges on together just to confuse you all more now.

[VX2VESS]

Arent the boxes made by Tremec, who were formerely
owned by Borg Warner?

mmm yes i got carried away their :D. it is for the 6spd speced for gm, the autos GM ? devleoped by GM then.

but GM sell em on there site.

[chevypower]

how about the gold Chevy Truck bow tie badge? or GMC? haha

[IIV8II]

They are also sold as Opels....

The VT range was designed from the ground up to be a Chev in export markets so it has, you could say, Chev in its genes. I kinda like Chev badges on late-model Holdens for that personal touch. Saw one this mornng on nice-looking purple VY SS ute. Looked great (except for what appeared to be bald-tyred steelies on the back)

The VL was never intended to be exported as a Nissan - it was simply powered by a bought-in Nissan engine

How about Toyota badges on VNs!

[Wazz_ChevLS1]

As has been said already each to there own.........

On my SV8 I have an SSX front end, SS sides and rear bumper, Chev grill, Chev Sill plates, SS steering wheel with Chev airbag and Chev bowtie on the boot. All other badges have been removed.
All the above were done (about a year ago) to make it a little different but it seem now that there are more and more cars/utes being badged with Chev so my car is looking a little less different everyday.

[IH8WRX]

Just personal taste really. After all please correct me if I am wrong, but don't GM Holden make the Chevrolet Lumina's for the middle eastern countries, which is still our Commodore just "badge engineered"? I don't mind the Chevy "bow tie" badges for the bonnet and boot, however it does look a bit silly tho when you open up the drivers door and smack bang in the middle of the steering wheel is the Holden logo. If you go to the option of changing the bonnet and boot badges, me myself would think it's a good idea to change the steering wheel airbag cover too. What also looks good is the boot garnish for the VT/VX that has "Chevrolet" made into it.

Although it does seem pathetic that you can not purchase any of these items over the counter here in Australia with correct part numbers even though they are made right here in our own country. In the U.S.A. and Middle East they can give any Australian part number and buy what they want, but we can't do it in reverse :mad: Nice to know whom Holden are really looking after

[IIV8II]

Pathetic? :lol: Do you really think Holden is going to go to the hassle expense of setting up an 'overseas parts' distribution channel in Australia just for you to buy Chev or Pontiac badged parts? What business are you in? Ahh, you're the guy who tried to bring in the GTO engine covers... Get over it, dude

[IH8WRX]

Pathetic? :lol: Do you really think Holden is going to go to the hassle expense of setting up an 'overseas parts' distribution channel in Australia just for you to buy Chev or Pontiac badged parts? What business are you in? Ahh, you're the guy who tried to bring in the GTO engine covers... Get over it, dude


I beg your pardon! My point is that if I lived in the U.S.A. or the Middle East I could quote any Australian Holden part number over the local GM dealers counter, they would order it and I would get it, HOWEVER if you do this in Australia you get told "export only". If it's good enough for them to do it, why is it not the same for us? What's good for the goose, should be good for the gander should it not?

[YIIR8]

I would guess that would have come from the street coommodores or CCC forums... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think it must of been on the internet somewhere..........so it MUST be true :lol: cause everything on the internet is gospel. :rolleyes:

[VX2VESS]

:lol:

this is starting to turn personal all over what sort of badges are on a car. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:box:

geese.

[Sid447]

Come on guys,

Turn this round your selves, no need to get opinionated with each other.
You can't have a pi**ing contest over badges, surely.

Badge engineering has been going on for years and years.
The first Porsches were VW's converted by Kharman how long ago?
The Holden V8 Supercar uses a Chev Racing 5.0 V8 and a Ford designed rear axle.
The Holden Commodore was born from the Opel Commodore.
The Chev Lumina/Lumina Coupe is a Holden Commodore/Monaro is a Pontiac GTO.
Where do we start? Where do we finish?
Is a Chrysler a Mercedes now?
Is a Mini a BMW........or is it a Chrysler-BMW? (Chrysler, Brazil engine).

Who gives a stuff?
Put R-R badges on it if it makes you feel good.

A car is an expression of the person that owns it, just like clothes and other personal possessions. And some people like to express themselves openly.
In Germany people get the option of de-badging cars in the showroom (i.e. you buy your car de-badged).

Some people have different tastes. That's why there's Chinese, Greek, Italian, Mexican (etc,) restaurants around.

Why can't people just make an observation and leave it at that, without saying that they think it's naff or crap or whatever. This is un-called for and NOT good courtesy.
One man's meat is another's poison.

Do your own thing and don't ram your opinions down other peoples' throats.

[vh-holden]

are the utes exported anywhere as chevs?

[nemesis]

MUST AGREE...

I always thought it a bit :eek: :confused: not as bad as putting HSV badges on stock commodores or (even mock ups for that matter)...

However as they say different horses for different courses....

Might get meself a V-dub and whack some Porsche badges on it. After all they were both designed by the same guy's family.

:stick:

Not quite the same... As stated above we, in the Middle East get the Commodore in LHD and badged as a Chevrolet Lumina. Car is not just designed by Holden but is the same car...

There are a few here that run with Holden badging...

[nemesis]

are the utes exported anywhere as chevs?

Don't belive so.. we certainly don't get and nor do the yanks.. although I think they'd like it as a new El Camino... :lol:

Only place that may get it is South Africa as they get RHD Commodores badged as Chevys..

[Ls1CorpCruiser]

Not quite the same... As stated above we, in the Middle East get the Commodore in LHD and badged as a Chevrolet Lumina. Car is not just designed by Holden but is the same car...

There are a few here that run with Holden badging...

They are most likely badged as Chevy Lumina etc to give them some credibilty in the market place.

If you were told they were built in Australia by Holden everyone would expect a stuffed koala and a kangaroo skin purse with each car purchased :lol: :lol: :lol: .

Re: the parts thing I think it all comes down to economy of scale, eventually Holden will start selling these Chevy parts over the counter, when they realise how much profit is in it....

Matter of fact, Booran Holden Dandenong have a limited range of chevy parts available now in their spare parts area, including badges and touneau's with the bowtie emblems....

[Sidewindr]

Changing the badge doesnt change the looks, it just shows "I think i can fool myself, and hopefully everyone else that this car which looks like a Holden, that it may be a Chevy"


Holden and Chev are one and the same as far as these cars go .. export garnish kit. :rolleyes:

It is a trait many old schoolers still do because we used to do it back in the day when we were putting 350's in our wb's etc.

[Kirium]

I debadged my car...

It has the Holden logo on the front grille, V8 badges on the front guards and the HBD badge on top of the hard-cover... All SS badges gone.. (And the naff series II one as well...)

[Sidewindr]

Although it does seem pathetic that you can not purchase any of these items over the counter here in Australia with correct part numbers even though they are made right here in our own country. In the U.S.A. and Middle East they can give any Australian part number and buy what they want, but we can't do it in reverse :mad: Nice to know whom Holden are really looking after

You used to be able to buy the chev badging with the correct part numbers. However this was stopped because some pellican decided it was a good idea to order a couple of thousand badges and wiped out the spare parts stock and Holden had no stock for the o/s spares market. They put a stop on distribution of export parts to the domestic market after that.

[Sidewindr]

The airbags are $500+ so it is a fairly expensive mod to just change the steering wheel badge. I will replace mine with a chev one if it ever goes off :p

[Kirium]

I've seen you can even buy replacement Chev embossed key cases...

[IIV8II]

You used to be able to buy the chev badging with the correct part numbers. However this was stopped because some pellican decided it was a good idea to order a couple of thousand badges and wiped out the spare parts stock and Holden had no stock for the o/s spares market. They put a stop on distribution of export parts to the domestic market after that.
Well, there you go - bottom line: it's more trouble than it's worth for Holden

[vh-holden]

I debadged my car...

It has the Holden logo on the front grille, V8 badges on the front guards and the HBD badge on top of the hard-cover... All SS badges gone.. (And the naff series II one as well...)

and don't the ss badges look good on the vh now!!!!

[Kirium]

and don't the ss badges look good on the vh now!!!!

That's funny... I remember giving them to Bootsy, not you... :p

[vh-holden]

That's funny... I remember giving them to Bootsy, not you... :p

ok, i'll rephrase

and didnt' the ss badges look good on the vh for the 20 seconds that they stayed there before losing their adhesive properties on the rough grey primered surface? :p

[BigFella]

does anyone know where i can buy a 5.7 badge? (the GTO one?)

[motomk]

does anyone know where i can buy a 5.7 badge? (the GTO one?)

http://www.sve.net.au/sve_chevparts.html
www.jhp.com.au
www.holmart.com.au

[paul05]

chevrolet was a french bloke who started the company when they started buying other motor vehicle company's they did'nt want to call them all chev so GM was born

[heavychevy]

Changing the badge doesnt change the looks, it just shows "I think i can fool myself, and hopefully everyone else that this car which looks like a Holden, that it may be a Chevy"

Best idea is to post your opinion on the idea, not the individual.

[nemesis]

[QUOTE=Ls1CorpCruiser]They are most likely badged as Chevy Lumina etc to give them some credibilty in the market place.

If you were told they were built in Australia by Holden everyone would expect a stuffed koala and a kangaroo skin purse with each car purchased :lol: :lol: :lol: .
QUOTE]

That's exactly it.. although credibility is a bit of stretch if you can remember the previous US built Lumina.. definately one of the worst wastes of metal it has been my misfortune to be anywhere near....

[VX2VESS]

anyone noticed how the holden badge is growing in size, esp on the grills. the front will be one big badge in ten years.

[chevypower]

anyone noticed how the holden badge is growing in size, esp on the grills. the front will be one big badge in ten years.

Just like the VW badges on the Touareg you think?

[TriShield]

Holden should badge Utes like that from the factory and put them on a boat bound for the US. :o

I've always thought it was cool how much the VY Commodore and Ute resembled Chevrolets.

[scotty]

I will be auctioning off two different sets of Chev engraved oil and power steering cap billeted aluminium covers as part of the Cruise4ACure events.
I will take a pic or two of them tonight.
These caps are made by the same man who did my SS embossed ones
http://voodoo.theddrzone.com/images/scotty/Scotty%20EngineBay%2003.JPG
and VXSS's polished ones.

[brujeria]

reguarding original post,

you can get the chev badges from CAPA, the vy ones and the little blue ones in a circle for the VT/VX. You can also get the GTO badges and replacement Holden ones.

Just go to their website and click on LS-1 power parts and then Accessories.

[Chris5.7ltr]

I would guess that would have come from the street coommodores or CCC forums... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah :clown:
Comments like that maybe you should go join the kids on the hot 4s forum.'rolleyes: ;)


Back on topic.
I guess it’s like the old school kingswoods and 1 tonners that run 350s (or other Chev engines) you sometimes see them running a Chev badge as if to say its "Chev powered".
Same with the GenIII power cars I guess, that’s the way I see it anyway.

[ls1350]

With that theory.. I never seen any VLs running around showing off Nissan badges...

No but I've seen a XF Falcon ute (3) with Nissan badges around sydney :confused:

[2inch]

XF utes were actually sold as Nissans in the late 80's. Around the same time Ford were selling Patrols badged as Mavericks.

[motomk]

No but I've seen a XF Falcon ute (3) with Nissan badges around sydney :confused:

Ahhhhh.....that would be because Ford built a few XF's?? maybe XG's for Nissan when they were doing the Pintara/Corsair thing!

[markone2]

Ahhhhh.....that would be because Ford built a few XF's?? maybe XG's for Nissan when they were doing the Pintara/Corsair thing!


Or had a built a few too many XF utes fitted with the defunct 3.3 Ltr six ;)

[smoke]

You guys are great! So passionate about motoring. But! They are chevs. We get it all from the yanks, cause they are, potentially our biggest market. Holden arent going to worry about stocking chev badges for Mr Dundee, when GWB spends more money here than we do! Its economics. But i failed that subject, so maybe i should pull my head in.

[LOWKEY]

anyone willing to post as many examples of these badges?

[brujeria]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/brujeria/ls1_acc_badge_chev_vx.jpg
Little Blue one (CAPA says for VX)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/brujeria/ls1_acc_badge_chev_gold_chrome.jpg

Bigger one (CAPA says for VY)

[LOWKEY]

bottom one thanks eddy :cool:

[anzaccookies]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/brujeria/ls1_acc_badge_chev_vx.jpg
Little Blue one (CAPA says for VX)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/brujeria/ls1_acc_badge_chev_gold_chrome.jpg

Bigger one (CAPA says for VY)

Hey where do i get either of those badges from ? and how much ?

[EVLCV8]

Sorry guys but just havin a read thru this thread and noticed a lot of people saying that no one puts nissan badges on VL's.......ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????
I personally know 3 vl's with nissan badging. First is my mate kyle's n/a VL with nissan badge from a skyline. Then my mates 300rwkw VLT with R34 nissan badges.....looks nucking futs! Then theres VLT747 (pretty sure thats the plates) which I saw at calder originally has silvia/200sx nissan badges and looks off its head!
Horses for courses, i just hate people saying YOU CANT DO THAT!!! If its their car then they can do wateva they want with it.

Adz

[vh-holden]

Hey where do i get either of those badges from ? and how much ?
i'm guessing capa

[seldo]

Sorry guys but just havin a read thru this thread and noticed a lot of people saying that no one puts nissan badges on VL's.......ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????
I personally know 3 vl's with nissan badging. First is my mate kyle's n/a VL with nissan badge from a skyline. Then my mates 300rwkw VLT with R34 nissan badges.....looks nucking futs! Then theres VLT747 (pretty sure thats the plates) which I saw at calder originally has silvia/200sx nissan badges and looks off its head!
Horses for courses, i just hate people saying YOU CANT DO THAT!!! If its their car then they can do wateva they want with it.

Adz
YEAH! I reckon the 120Y badges on my Senator look fully sik...:lol:

[OzJavelin]

chevrolet was a french bloke who started the company when they started buying other motor vehicle company's they did'nt want to call them all chev so GM was born
Louise Chevrolet was a racing car driver who worked for William Durant (I think?) who founded GM. Buick or one of the other BOP was the "founding" company of GM .. Chevrolet was just the name "taken" and used on GM's entry-level car.
Don't get too fussed about Chev badges on Commodores. The old 5.0L Holden would be struggling along against the competion these days without Chev-power ...

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