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Bumfluff
20-08-2004, 06:29 PM
G'day folks I'm just wondering (as the title mentioned) how many of you have pushed your cars to the limit. How fast did you end up going and what transmission were you using? Does the 4 speed auto end up revving it's arse off? I'm just curious to see if it has been done.

MARTY
20-08-2004, 07:24 PM
Have not found the limit in the monaro, only 230 (on a private test track of course :D ). Remember motor magazine got a series 2 235kw monaro to 279km in one of their tests though.

OscarTheGrouch
20-08-2004, 07:40 PM
Not me - hit 200kph in the old ute and had plenty left (was still in 3rd, that was A4). The new one I've had @ about 200kph as well and that was in 5th... could have gone a looot faster, but I ran out of road.

Disclaimer: This wasn't done on a public road - speeding is bad, mmkay.

Wazz_ChevLS1
20-08-2004, 08:01 PM
Got 3.9's in mine and got to 220kmh changed to 6th and would only pull slowly from there on :( needed more road.

nvmysv8
20-08-2004, 08:04 PM
215kph.....Still had room for more. Auto Transmission.

Disclaimer......on the track of course

JA SV8
20-08-2004, 08:08 PM
I have pushed my SV8 to 220 (on speedo) it was dead on 211 on my GPS, in 5th (6Manual) and had heaps left, just ran outta road and guts...

HRT Stroker
20-08-2004, 08:08 PM
Bear in mind gentlemen you are in a public section of the forum, anyone in the world (or your local copper) can see what you post...........

MARTY
20-08-2004, 08:28 PM
Bear in mind gentlemen you are in a public section of the forum, anyone in the world (or your local copper) can see white you post...........
Today 08:08 PM
Granted HRT stroker, we must'nt give this forum a bad rep., but could anyone be convicted of a driving offence from what they have written on the net? :confused:

Tyre biter
20-08-2004, 08:38 PM
Good point Marty,

254 (balls on accurate - off a radar) in a VT II in 5th on the flat - went to 6th but it seems that 6th's half to one ratio is too big a number to push because the speed dropped off.

Cheers, Craig

cheffy
20-08-2004, 08:55 PM
265 in the ute.. private airstrip of course....

Goggles
20-08-2004, 08:57 PM
Granted HRT stroker, we must'nt give this forum a bad rep., but could anyone be convicted of a driving offence from what they have written on the net? :confused:

may not be able to convict you of an offence, but may want to follow you in the future, since your car and general location is given in this forum.

Kirium
20-08-2004, 09:05 PM
215 in 5th on a PUBLIC ROAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Lucky it was here in the territory on flat, wide, empty de-restricted road... :D

Need edit to get rid of that pesky limiter...

DaveHAT
20-08-2004, 09:09 PM
Bear in mind gentlemen you are in a public section of the forum, anyone in the world (or your local copper) can see white you post...........

Good advice here. :yup:
These things are easy enough to trace. Perhaps share these ideas when standing face to face, not on a public forum. :eek:

Scud
20-08-2004, 09:12 PM
One time at band camp, I recall, in a dream, passing another LS1 at 255km/h (police mode) and then some :) Difillipos defintely have some top end over pacies!!!!

And Summernats 2003 ROCKED!!!


:cool:

ScottyVUSS
20-08-2004, 10:04 PM
Yer 215kph in 5th roughly 4,500rpm, 3,000 in 6th ;) on a trip whilst in NT

keen
20-08-2004, 10:08 PM
Bloke I bought my GTS off reacons on a radar gun at an air strip , he was clocked at 271 km , in 5th , in 6th only did 250 ?Personally I once had it up to 115 km but I started to really get scared so I slowed down.

Bumfluff
20-08-2004, 10:08 PM
Good advice here. :yup:
These things are easy enough to trace. Perhaps share these ideas when standing face to face, not on a public forum. :eek:

Didn't mean to cause a rukkous folks, my main query was more about how the auto trans. holds up at high speeds in the LS1.

markone2
20-08-2004, 10:09 PM
:idea: Me thinks this should be moved to the private quarters if you want answers :)

markone2
20-08-2004, 10:10 PM
Didn't mean to cause a rukkous folks, my main query was more about how the auto trans. holds up at high speeds in the LS1.


Fine :D .I assure you

VX2VESS
20-08-2004, 10:17 PM
i havn't even thought about trying too, why would you, not any road safe to do over say 160. maybe in the nt even then i see no point in going too fast.

yes some speed limits are too low and you could exceed them safely, depending on conditions. but to the limits is far too risky on public roads these days

Phido
20-08-2004, 11:46 PM
Wasn't there a supercharged intercooled LS1 in UAE that was clocking ~320kmph GPS proven but was having problems getting fuel to the engine on long WOT that its owner wanted to use? 5 or 10 minute bursts at 300+ kmph at full WOT.

A4 as I remember, last I heard was thinking about fitting a real aerokit to enhance stability at those speeds. I don't recall any problems with the transmission.. needed new valves and springs after something broke tho.. silver VX with aftermarket front bar. I think it was. search and you might find. Pic of it parked next to a F40 and a F50 as I remember.

I recall he was concerned about the windscreen and wheel hubs exploding so didn't like taking it past ~260kmph.

There are a couple of bits of road you can really get things going fast on.. One down hill bit of a autobahn in rural southern germany, you can usually get 15+kmph more than your regular flat ground top speed.. Favourable winds and steep hill.. Just hope you don't have to hit your brakes.. Got a Focus 1.6 L wagon just over 210 in light rain at night and in light traffic..

SIC EM
21-08-2004, 08:54 AM
A couple years ago I was cruising along @ 150-160km/h in the SV300. Noticed a set of headlights zeroing in very quickly, until they were right up my date, but he wouldn't pass. Every time I passed someone, he was right behind me. Then on a very, very long straight, I dropped the hammer.....and got hammered!!! I was off the clock, digital speedo showed 258km/h when this guy flew by, (note, flew by!!!), in a brand new Porsche 911 Turbo.....truly awesome!!!!! (and just a little humbling!), did manage to claw back a little respect though and nail him through a subsequent 58km long gorge cos his foot was permanently glued to the brakes, seems when the going got tough he couldn't quite cut the mustard!!!

markone2
21-08-2004, 09:15 AM
A couple years ago I was cruising along @ 150-160km/h in the SV300. Noticed a set of headlights zeroing in very quickly, until they were right up my date, but he wouldn't pass. Every time I passed someone, he was right behind me. Then on a very, very long straight, I dropped the hammer.....and got hammered!!! I was off the clock, digital speedo showed 258km/h when this guy flew by, (note, flew by!!!), in a brand new Porsche 911 Turbo.....truly awesome!!!!! (and just a little humbling!), did manage to claw back a little respect though and nail him through a subsequent 58km long gorge cos his foot was permanently glued to the brakes, seems when the going got tough he couldn't quite cut the mustard!!!


:D :D Brings back fond memories of many a high speed runs through Cheviot into the Kaikoura pass….used to lie in wait outside Parnassus waiting for the straight line cowboys strutting their wares before moving in for the kill..those narrow roads with the sheer drop offs soon sorted the men from the wimps…actually been over the side my good self once when I put a rear wheel into the shingle :eek:.........not unlike waiting to pounce on the BA Fords at Willowbank ........now I come to think about it :)

VXSS346
21-08-2004, 10:55 AM
Bloke I bought my GTS off reacons on a radar gun at an air strip , he was clocked at 271 km , in 5th , in 6th only did 250 ?Personally I once had it up to 115 km but I started to really get scared so I slowed down


How are some people able to get on to an airstrip to try this?
Its something I would absolutely love to do with my car. Just for the experience.
Too dangerous to try on the road!!!

Cheers

mrturkey
21-08-2004, 11:09 AM
<dream mode on>

In a dream, private track/airstrip etc....

Bit past the end of the 220km/h speedo on the old VTII SS A4

Changed from third to fourth at 210km/h approx..

</dream mode off>

seldo
21-08-2004, 11:27 AM
You need to be careful though. A mate of a mate bought a new 911 and took it for a run up the coast towards Noosa with his 15yo son. Son asked how fast it would go and dad says "about 250".
S - Aw bull...
D - It really will do that
S - Well show me then
D- No, its only 110 k limit here and it's against the law
S - Yeah I thought you would use that excuse
D - Well, you wouldn't want me to get booked would you?
S - Oh, don't be a wuss - there's no coppers around - we haven't even seen one.
D - Well, don't you tell your mother!! I'll just take it to 200 for you.
...back a couple of gears and winds it out to 200...
D - See that's how easy it is - there's 200 on the clock now ...FLASH!!!!
D - Damn, damn, DAMN! Now see - you've got me booked!! That'll cost me a couple of hundred dollars..
... back at home endures a looong Sunday and then on Monday morning at 7am ..KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK!!!
Good morning officer, how can I help you?
O - Are you Elmer George Fudd?
D - Why yes, Field Marshall, I am
O - Are you the owner of a silver Porsche 911 reg no xxx.yyy?
D - Well, yes I am..
O - Could I see your licence please.
D - ...produces licence..Is there a problem..?
O - Yes, you were timed in a radar trap on Saturday afternoon on the hwy at xxx doing 192kph. I am taking your licence now. It is officially confiscated - do not drive - you are unlicenced! You will receive a summons to appear in court for dangerous driving.
A month later, goes to court $2000 fine and 12 months holiday.
Son gets no pocket money for the next 2 years..

Aren't all you blokes lucky you have access to private roads, airfields and your own radar guns.... ;)

M&Ms
21-08-2004, 02:15 PM
maybe someone should organise an airstrip for people to take their cars on and top out in a relatively safe environment....somewhere like the place MOTOR does their PCOTY tests...3km straight and 48m wide....excellent... :p

flappist
21-08-2004, 03:27 PM
There is a nice LONG "airstrip" about 180km west of the ISA.
My beast, though not a LS1, does 254km/h by the GPS when the limiter says "no more". I held it for over 5 minutes (doesn't sound long but it was over 20 km). Fuel economy wasn't.

For those who wish to play at this speed please note that you will do about 1km every 13 seconds and you will take longer than that to stop unless you have upgraded brakes e.g. Brembos etc.

This means that if you see some moo cattles or a caktorian with a caravan wandering onto the track a K or so up front YOU WILL HIT THEM.

GM350
21-08-2004, 03:27 PM
I managed over 230 in my drive way, gee it was fun, I had to retire it got to dark.

MARTY
21-08-2004, 09:15 PM
Anyone ever trying high speeds must pay major attention to tyre presures, 200kmh+ and a tyre blowout just don't mix! If you've ever taken a high speed run feel the heat in your tyres afterwards, it may surprise you the heat they generate.

VooDoo
21-08-2004, 09:26 PM
I did 210 on that airstrip in the caprice with plenty left. Got out after the run with glowing rotors and smoking pads :)

wasnt game to go higher.

Kirium
21-08-2004, 09:33 PM
Anyone ever trying high speeds must pay major attention to tyre presures, 200kmh+ and a tyre blowout just don't mix! If you've ever taken a high speed run feel the heat in your tyres afterwards, it may surprise you the heat they generate.

Nitrogen helps that problem... highly recommended for us N.T members and anyone visiting us from down south for the trip up.... :)

Smitty
21-08-2004, 09:54 PM
dunno about top speed but
i got more than 220 up the back straight at sandown
on the last drive day did with Murcotts
about 5700 in 4th
just before I went 'over the top'
and stared Dandenong rd corner (about50kmh)
in the face.... :confused:

funny watching the needle go beyond 220 and bounce back...

SV8VY
22-08-2004, 06:40 AM
I regularly do 172....at WSID :lol:
Even though the race is finished I try and get over 200 before I brake....to get the cobwebs out
180 down the straight at Eastern Creek also ......Don't have any private roads I can boast about so I wont go there :p

Gary88
22-08-2004, 05:44 PM
Getting back to question about whether the Auto revs it head off ... no way. I found that my SV8 A4 will go faster in 3rd than 4th (unless maybe there's a tail-wind, or you're travelling down-hill).

I really did spend the first half of the year working in Darwin (no "dream-mode") and spent a chunk of my hard-earned wages cruising out on the Arnhem, Kakadu & Stuart Hwys on weekends. The roads aren't as straight as you might think, but there are a few sections where its a bit safer than most to let the throttle out a tad.

Got the auto SV8 up to 240 in 3rd, on a slightly uphill bit of the Arnhem, before I ran out of straight road. I've only done it the once, and I was pretty worried what a flat tire might do. I'm not even sure what the airodynamics of the car might be like at that speed ... no scoop or skirting ... the roads aren't all that flat up there, and I didn't want to get airborne ....

I also found 180km felt like a very comfortable cruising speed up there on the open road, but again I wasn't sure what a flat might do to the vehicle stability, so I kept to more mundane speeds a lot of the time. After a month or so the novelty wore off anyway ...

SS_rhino
22-08-2004, 06:06 PM
Don't know about HWP coppas hunting the forums for speeding drivers :p If you were carrying a kg of ice in the car at the time maybe then :cool:

I think we should all be a little more concerned about meeting them on the road at those speeds. I need my licence too much to wind up the awesome SS to whatever it can do... We all know they go bloody fast though, but get caught doing that speed like 250+ and no court will let ya drive for a very long time.... and I know my boss will be doing these ones :bash:

And I'd sure miss being able to drive the beast with the christ known how long disqualification that the beak would dish out.

Kirium
22-08-2004, 06:17 PM
The roads south of Katherine are much better for sustained high-speed cruising... Very long straight sections, vegetation cleared well away from the road, roads mostly flat also (unless flood damaged...)

You're right about them between Katherine and Darwin tho...

LSX-438
22-08-2004, 06:48 PM
had the Statie LS8 off the clock a few times, wind ye 'ol 3.07 out and it goes bloody quick

Heli
22-08-2004, 07:25 PM
Re the original question, how the slush box behaves at high speed. My WK (Grange) is noticeably better than the WH & WHII, which were a bit clunky and noisy >200kph. Final upshift (leaving the box to its own devices) remains around 215-220kph, with the 285kW donk there is no shortage of pull way beyond that. The current slush box seems quite capable, but is disgustingly noisy at low speed in first when moving off gently. Not so bad when booted hard, but the dealer is supposed to be looking at it for me soon ;)

ntae
22-08-2004, 07:44 PM
Anyone ever trying high speeds must pay major attention to tyre presures, 200kmh+ and a tyre blowout just don't mix! If you've ever taken a high speed run feel the heat in your tyres afterwards, it may surprise you the heat they generate.

I had a blow out two months a go doing 220 km in a ute . the car just sat there untill i slowed down witch suprised me . it ended up the rim cracked and let out the air pressure out ,the tyre was a g111 half worn . the next day holden replaced two rims due to the cracks in them and it looks like holden are giving some money towords the tyres

nemesis
22-08-2004, 08:40 PM
250 kph limited...in my old VTII SS and the A4 was fine... The car would pound along quite happily.. I think 4th is long enough that the revs aren't too high but not so long as to actually slow you down...

Have to admit I've found runways a bit bumpy for speed runs...hitting a small ridge or join is no fun in excess of 300kph...


As for the person that mentioned the Silver VX UAE car.. I belive that car still exists as it belonged to one of the local tuners and is still their test bed...

stato
22-08-2004, 09:52 PM
I have been looking at this thread and thinking I would not take part, but on a relaxed Sunday evening, why not?

Firstly, in my current Statesman V8 I have seen about 180k's on the open road. Did not feel all that comfortable, basically the car getting a slightly nervous, and probably in the back of my mind the thought of police... I was overtaking and just went on with it for a little while. Was the proverbial goat track back road, a road not built for speed. The irony, of course, is that if you do the speed where it is safe (eg freeway or highway), you are more likely to come under notice from the police. Generally, in NSW these days, even the old 100mph (160kph) is a bit of a worry legally, but I have no doubt the Statesman would safely sit on speeds much faster than that if allowed. In any event, I did not get the Stato to go fast, it is a fringe benefit of a powerful car, the feel of which I enjoy.

I did a lot of miles in a Falcon GT, xw auto (three speed), 351 Windsor. There used to be an "open road" law in NSW so you could do the speed. If challenged, ie booked, I forget the details:either the police had to prove you were driving unsafely, or you had to prove you were driving safely.I think the latter. I never got booked in it. There used to be a sign with the applicable speed limit with a line through it, like, say, a modern no smoking sign with the line through the cigarette, and beyond that sign was "the open road". I took an American guy for a trip to the snowfields and back, just for a drive actually, and the Falcon GT really impressed him, much better car than his USA drive. I forget what he drove in the States (Pontiac muscle car from memory), but remember being surprised that the Aussie car impressed him so. The Falcon GT was much more relaxing at speed than the Statesman, could sit on 160kph very easily for miles. A really great car. I think it was the suspension angles, I would be confident the GT had some castor dialled in in particular for high speed nice solid feel, as opposed to the Statesman which I perceive as having a bit of a compromise setup. So don't get upset, what I am saying is the Stato no doubt can be set up for speed if that is where you are at in this changed world. Actually, the 351 Ford was somewhat like the Ls1 in that you had to wind it up, no guts at low revs, and the gearing was very high speed oriented.

In the early 90's, I had the great privilege to drive a friend's Aston Martin V8. Now that car was absolutely unreal. It did 130MPH so easily it blew all of my high speed car experience (and I had some) to that point straight out of the water. In fact, a guy in a very nice (ie fast) looking Commodore was travelling at about 160K's as I came up behind him, on a freeway, and he went for it bigtime, as shown by his exhaust smoke when he presumably flattened it. In fairness, I feathered the throttle to give him a shot at it, but honestly, when I got back on the gas, the Commodore looked like it was suddenly in reverse gear. It was a real thrill for me to be driving a car people dream about driving, but the experience itself, in terms of the drive, was somewhat flat, that is, no big deal. Just put ones foot on the pedal, go fast, no nervousness, no loud noise, no sweaty palms, just speed. It actually felt like a light plane on a runway about to take off. My friend the owner was next to me and did not blink an eye, we were just chatting. Actually, he is one of the coolest people I have ever known. I would say more except I do not want to identify him, he values his privacy.

My next relevant experience was on the Monaro Highway (strange name for a road) in my Porsche 928S, 1984 model known here as the S2, (but never officially called so) four speed auto. My wife was sitting next to me... Me: "How fast do you think we have been going for the last couple of k's?" "Oh, feels pretty fast, it would have to be one hundred and sixty k's an hour for sure." "We have been sitting on 220 kph". "Really?"

The faster you went in the Porsche the more it came into its own. I gave a lift to an ex highway patrol policeman from Bega to Sydney and he said the Porsche was in a totally different world to any of the pursuit cars he had driven.

In any event, so far as I am concerned, speed has effectively been outlawed in NSW these days.

r8ls1
22-08-2004, 11:10 PM
This one time, at band camp, i had a dream that i stuck 3.7's in an auto, and it went 260 next to an airport, but not in the airport, damn it got there fast in the auto ;)

Swordie
22-08-2004, 11:39 PM
I remember being in a Porcshe 928S about 15 years ago. At 200 it felt like a Commodore at 100Km.

CarlFST60L
23-08-2004, 01:10 PM
Run nitrogen in your tyres to maintain constant pressure at high temp, cost $10... I recall seeing a porche crash in NZ at nearly 300km/h while trying to break the record for NZ... Car didnt look to healthy...

(Private track test...)

Stock VY M6, to the end of the clock (250) in 5th, very fast, very scary...

Got to the end of the clock allot quicker with edit, exhaust and 3.9's... 6th gear pulls quite well with 3.9's and 240rwkw...

Test show 280Km/h with 3.9's and > 220Kwrw with little problem...

Someone organsise a day at an airstip... i would love to hit 280 :D

Mickey T
23-08-2004, 02:18 PM
let's see, LS1s...
quickest LS1 i've driven on top speed is the CSV version of the Mondo GT, which pulled 282km/h at avalon in january this year.
did 275 there in a GTS a year earlier, while the CSV Veloce 330 did 275 in 2002.
CV8 Monaro pulled a neat, easy 270 there as well, and felt very very stable doing it. which can't be said of the Mondo GT...
Did drive a twin-turbo LS1 vickery at Avalon, which pulled 286, just before it melted a piston.

other quick stuff, just out of interest:
Luxon's XR6 Turbo - 307km/h, and very, very unstable. not something i want to do again. ford clearly don't wind tunnel these cars at 300-odd. dunno why not...
Lamborghini Murcielago - 304. Mmmm
Lamborghini Gallardo - 292. Double Mmmmm.
Porsche 911 GT2 - 301
Chrysler Viper - 295, and pulling your bloody helmet off
Bentley Continental GT - 280, and all feeling very cruisey.
Honourable mention: Benz SL55 AMG. Limited to 250, but capable of gettnig there in 1km. which we did. twice. ran it to top speed, crash stopped it, ran it to top speed again, and it was on the limiter well before the radar station. They call it the world's fastest car to 300, and i've got every reason to believe them...
cheers
mt

nemesis
23-08-2004, 03:21 PM
[QUOTE=WORKEDVYSV8]
Stock VY M6, to the end of the clock (250) in 5th, very fast, very scary...


I don't recall 250 being scary.. VTII felt very stable at that speed and I've driven cars that feel unstable at speed...evn yank stuff that feels unstable at 110kph... :lol:

BLACK 346
23-08-2004, 03:34 PM
[QUOTE=WORKEDVYSV8]
Stock VY M6, to the end of the clock (250) in 5th, very fast, very scary...


I don't recall 250 being scary.. VTII felt very stable at that speed and I've driven cars that feel unstable at speed...evn yank stuff that feels unstable at 110kph... :lol:

Maybe he means it was scary for him, not that the car
was scary. Understandable if that speed was new for
him :eek:

nemesis
23-08-2004, 03:36 PM
Fair... depends how you read it i guess

Oldskoolpushrod
23-08-2004, 04:05 PM
I remember riding in a certain LS1.com.au member's black VX SS (who was famous for burnouts) on the way back from Summernats a few years back. The 'silver bullet' was sent ahead to check the roads for police, then it came back over the CB that it was clear. WOT resulted in 252kph from what I can remember. I dont think he ever got it to go any faster than that. It was fooken awesome. Only time I have been faster was in Rollin7's 20B S6 RX7 @ Sandown (255kph)

Dane
23-08-2004, 04:10 PM
Lang Lang Proving grounds ....... 255kmh min. with RPM's moving out by a further 500rpm, so at a punt, close to 280kmh. :D

A couple of LS1 were there that day also up around the same speed. In fact, if the speed limit at Lang Lang was not the 180kmh, and vehicles could have a max. fly, I believe 290-300kmh would be achievable due to the banking of the track. :p

Cheers,

Dane :)

Mickey T
23-08-2004, 04:23 PM
Lang Lang Proving grounds ....... 255kmh min. with RPM's moving out by a further 500rpm, so at a punt, close to 280kmh. :D

A couple of LS1 were there that day also up around the same speed. In fact, if the speed limit at Lang Lang was not the 180kmh, and vehicles could have a max. fly, I believe 290-300kmh would be achievable due to the banking of the track. :p

Cheers,

Dane :)
had a 911 GT3 doing 290-odd there before they put the limit in. it's actually not that good for top speed testing, because the hands off speed is a lot lower than most top speeds.
that means there's a constant steering angle input necessary, which overheats the outside front tyre and can lead to spectacular delamination.
and even if it doesn't the added rolling resistance from the tyre scrub rubs plenty of kays off the top whack.
We've found Avalon to be quicker and safer.
dunno what gearing your car was running to be pulling 280, but the fastest stock ls1 (holden spec) we've had is the (radar timed) 270km/h munro, and it maybe - maybe - had 30-40 revs left in it before the limiter, so on stock ratios, i can't see one getting more than 271-2 in fifth (sixth goes backwards)

GTS
23-08-2004, 10:52 PM
I seem to remember reading an article in Motor (or was it Wheels??) a year or 2 back where they took a GTS A4 to the max at Lang Lang. Cant have been long ago cos the A4 hasn't been available for that long in the GTS... anyway they got a tad over the 270 mark from it on the banked track. As Mickey T says, that is not the ideal situation either.

I had the opportunity of trying my GTS 6M out on a closed road just after it had been resurfaced ( its who you know ;) ) and it ran to about 220 in 4th so fast, and then kept hauling in 5th well past the 250 on the clock dial. I didnt know about the police speedo thing then :( It was stable, and I felt quite comfortable about driving it at that pace in the controlled environment. As for public roads..... I love my over speed alarm, its saved a few dollars over the years.

At the other extreme, I remember hitting 115 kmh in a Mazda RX4 many years ago and feeling TOTALLY out of control. That thing was incredibly unstable.

Smitty
23-08-2004, 11:07 PM
Wheels (or was it Motor)
did a top speed article earlier this year...
(or was it late last year..?)

quickest Holden ..the GTS at 274
as it bloody well should be..the $ ya pay
next....?
the SV8 at 269
that blew me away...cheapest car in the test
the quickest monaro was just over 250
and in comparison
the quickest Ford was the XR8...around 230
and the quickest of all..in the test?
the 24hr Bathurst Monaro race car
at 307kmh...
(speeds are from memory.......
coz I know its in one these stacks of mags..it is.. :lol: )

if anyone can find the mag
please check my speed :eek:

cheers

Dane
24-08-2004, 11:49 AM
dunno what gearing your car was running to be pulling 280, but the fastest stock ls1 (holden spec) we've had is the (radar timed) 270km/h munro, and it maybe - maybe - had 30-40 revs left in it before the limiter, so on stock ratios, i can't see one getting more than 271-2 in fifth (sixth goes backwards)

.... 800Ib (r) and 650Ib (f) springs with Adjustable shockers, Bridgestone semi comps, and near to 4deg camber. The tyers held up perfect, no welding of rubber. The feel was excellent, CALEYS is suited for the track days, thus suspension was well and truly suited for Lang Lang. :D With the banking, I found 6th was on a gradual increase in speed, no were near the pull in 5th but.

Mine as well as other members constantly do speeds greater than 240-260kmh on track days, with the right setup this is as safe as 100kmh on a stock setup. :p And if ya gonna kill ya self .... why not at 300kmh. Woo Hoo. :cool:

I have no doubt on the right setup and right track such as a Lang Lang, 300kmh is very achievable for an Ls1. :)

Phido
24-08-2004, 12:53 PM
I find it interesting that today, we quietly wisper out adventous "dreams" over 200 kmph, over 100 years ago, people were going faster than that, on a public beach and a car made of wood, and a big external fire out the back...

Stanley Steamer (http://www.autoswalk.com/stanleysteamer.html)

While we may bitch about how dangerous our modern cars are at 200+ kmph on airstrips, back then they were running wooden frame/wheeled cars, on a beach with steam engines at near 150 mph. How many of us today would take a HSV GTS or a 911 turbo and see how fast we can wind it out on palm beach!

This was before helmets, laminated glass, colapsable steering colums, ABS or proper medical treatment. Most didn't even have a foot operated accelerator, if you wanted to slow down you had to pull a lever, brakes were primative drums, if your lucky you got two of them, at the rear!.

They were setting outright speed records significantly faster than anything that had ever travelled before. in 1899 the world speed record was 65.79 Mph. Then by 1902 75 mph (in a steam car), then 76mph in a infernal combustion engine.. By 1904 it was 100 Mph by 1925 it was 200 Mph (still on daytona beach!).

Today our fastest production cars are barely if any faster than a 1925 prototype. some of which were based off production cars.

Mickey T
24-08-2004, 01:28 PM
.... 800Ib (r) and 650Ib (f) springs with Adjustable shockers, Bridgestone semi comps, and near to 4deg camber. The tyers held up perfect, no welding of rubber. The feel was excellent, CALEYS is suited for the track days, thus suspension was well and truly suited for Lang Lang. :D With the banking, I found 6th was on a gradual increase in speed, no were near the pull in 5th but.

Mine as well as other members constantly do speeds greater than 240-260kmh on track days, with the right setup this is as safe as 100kmh on a stock setup. :p And if ya gonna kill ya self .... why not at 300kmh. Woo Hoo. :cool:

I have no doubt on the right setup and right track such as a Lang Lang, 300kmh is very achievable for an Ls1. :)

I dunno about that. even if you have serious grunt, the Holden (not HSV) gearing won't let it happen. The CSV boys have tried shoving more and more grunt in, but aero and gearing stops things dead in the 280s.
with the stock monaro, we experimented with pulling sixth at 265/270, and it just lost revs (at Avalon, which is quicker than lang lang. we've back-to-backed cars at both places to establish a baseline) by the hundreds and lost pace.

It's the same with the ClubSport and even the GTS, with its shorter ratios. none of them can pull the 0.5 cog, so the rev limiter in fifth is effectively the speed limiter in any LS1 manual.

CarlFST60L
24-08-2004, 01:34 PM
Maybe he means it was scary for him, not that the car
was scary. Understandable if that speed was new for
him :eek:

i was supprised at how well the car handled the bumps at these speeds, the car has plently more in it, the (private) road didnt :D Its funny how such a relativly flat bit of road is actually quite lumpy at (250km/h) 70meters per second, you cant notice the rolling bumps at (90km/h) 25meters/second...

M&Ms
24-08-2004, 01:46 PM
I dunno about that. even if you have serious grunt, the Holden (not HSV) gearing won't let it happen. The CSV boys have tried shoving more and more grunt in, but aero and gearing stops things dead in the 280s.
with the stock monaro, we experimented with pulling sixth at 265/270, and it just lost revs (at Avalon, which is quicker than lang lang. we've back-to-backed cars at both places to establish a baseline) by the hundreds and lost pace.

It's the same with the ClubSport and even the GTS, with its shorter ratios. none of them can pull the 0.5 cog, so the rev limiter in fifth is effectively the speed limiter in any LS1 manual.



it'd be better if that last cog was a 0.6 rather than a 0.5... but at those speeds its more the drag than anything else that stops you from accelerating any further...so even with a 0.6 final gear (or even a 0.70 instead of a 0.74 5th) i cant see these cars accelerating to 300km/h.... damn near impossible.....a simple rule of the thumb is that if you double your power, u only increase your top speed by 1/8th...so a GTS with a 270 top whack will only pull about 304km/h with 600KW...see where i'm coming from?? drag increases exponentially at speed
and about that XR8 that only pulled 230, that was the electronically limited top speed of the car.... i remember that magazine, it was a MOTOR from late last year, don't remember which month though, but if i find it i'll let u know.... i think i remember them saying that the reason ford limits their car's top speeds is to stop hoons like them from doing this on public roads.... although i know the GT has no limiter, i saw a video clip of craig lowndes pulling 260 on a speed bowl with one

flappist
24-08-2004, 01:54 PM
I dunno about that. even if you have serious grunt, the Holden (not HSV) gearing won't let it happen. The CSV boys have tried shoving more and more grunt in, but aero and gearing stops things dead in the 280s.
with the stock monaro, we experimented with pulling sixth at 265/270, and it just lost revs (at Avalon, which is quicker than lang lang. we've back-to-backed cars at both places to establish a baseline) by the hundreds and lost pace.

It's the same with the ClubSport and even the GTS, with its shorter ratios. none of them can pull the 0.5 cog, so the rev limiter in fifth is effectively the speed limiter in any LS1 manual.

Mickey T, clear some space on your pvt message area and you might get a scoop.

Dane
24-08-2004, 02:28 PM
I dunno about that. even if you have serious grunt, the Holden (not HSV) gearing won't let it happen. The CSV boys have tried shoving more and more grunt in, but aero and gearing stops things dead in the 280s.

... There ya go (jest here. :D ), the CSV boys should have left the performance to Starr Performance, with a PD charger and max boost at 2300 odd rpm and near 400rwKw, CALEYS was pushin well over the 250km mark and in 6th, RPM slowed but still pushed out on PRM's.

I am looking at a gear ratio changes for 5th and 6th on the next round of mod's, refinement of suspension and boy I'd love another crack at 300kmh. Problem here is a track like Lang Lang aint the most available track to access. :cool:

Cheers,

Dane

nemesis
24-08-2004, 02:28 PM
I find it interesting that today, we quietly wisper out adventous "dreams" over 200 kmph, over 100 years ago, people were going faster than that, on a public beach and a car made of wood, and a big external fire out the back...


They were setting outright speed records significantly faster than anything that had ever travelled before. in 1899 the world speed record was 65.79 Mph. Then by 1902 75 mph (in a steam car), then 76mph in a infernal combustion engine.. By 1904 it was 100 Mph by 1925 it was 200 Mph (still on daytona beach!).

Today our fastest production cars are barely if any faster than a 1925 prototype. some of which were based off production cars.

Just a couple of points here:

1. Yes they could go that fast... but only 1 or 2 could do it.. now anyone on this board could go out and hit 250kph or so (on the right track, of course) so those kind of speeds are far more accessible now....

2. If you look at the top 1 or 2.. then the top speed is 763mph achieved by one guy strapped to 2 large jet engines...the more things change etc...

just my 2c......

clixanup
24-08-2004, 02:33 PM
Today our fastest production cars are barely if any faster than a 1925 prototype. some of which were based off production cars.

Isn't it interesting that in almost 120 years of motoring things haven't really improved mechanically. Outside safety, everything else is pretty much the same... We're still running inefficient internal combustion engines, while so many better options have already been invented...

http://www.freeenergy.co.za/1think/supressed/suppressed.htm

Ignoring all the alarmist bulldust, if you scroll down to about halfway down the page, you'll find out about only some of the better options invented in the past century....

Re: top speeds - IMO they'll be around the 250km/h mark until the oil runs out.

Phido
24-08-2004, 02:36 PM
Perhaps Holden will use the same ratios as fords in VE for the T-56, I belive it will have a shorter 6th.. LS2 I would imagine might have a slightly higher rev limiter, perhaps in HSV's atleast..

6th gear I belive is strictly a economy gear, its not up to high torque structurally, I belive the twin turbo Callaway Vette used 5th gear for its highspeed runs. Perhaps Holden/HSV have torque limits in the ECU for 6th gear further compounding the uselessness of that ratio.

Didn't the VTII GTS have a limiter at ~265kmph? And the only way you could get it to hit it was to drive down a hill.

Ford should adjust the limiter to 250 kmph on XR's.. Who sets limiters at 230! 230 is plenty fast on a public road zoned at 110kmph.

Nawdy
24-08-2004, 03:48 PM
Top speed? Not sure, I was just trying to keep up with the rest at the last cruise down the track..... :D

I quite sure we were doing at least 110km/h :lol:

Love those derestricted roads

Smitty
24-08-2004, 04:33 PM
Love those derestricted roads
well I did....
unlike the majority of you
I had the experience of driving here when the derestriction sign
was what you waited for ..at the edge of town...
only problem...the first car, a HR would only do 99mph flat out....
and then boil... :mad:
and then Bob Jane decided to test the new motor in the orange race Monaro
and ran away from the Police airwing ..on the Hume or Calder Hwy!
the next thing....
we have speed limits on the open road..... :bash:

BLACK 346
24-08-2004, 05:23 PM
well I did....
unlike the majority of you
I had the experience of driving here when the derestriction sign
was what you waited for ..at the edge of town...
only problem...the first car, a HR would only do 99mph flat out....
and then boil... :mad:
and then Bob Jane decided to test the new motor in the orange race Monaro
and ran away from the Police airwing ..on the Hume or Calder Hwy!
the next thing....
we have speed limits on the open road..... :bash:

Yes, you do get a certain feeling of anticipation waiting
for that sign to appear. Doesn't mean you have to sit
on the speed of stupid, just nice to be able to pick a
sensible speed without the risk of being put in jail.

Gavo
24-08-2004, 08:10 PM
I can tell you that the 4 or so vehicles that I have had measured, the reading for a series 2 VX SS, Auto, with 3.07 diff is between 334 and 348 km/h. These speeds were measured under certain conditions and legally and were measured by accurate devices, which have a tolerance of + or - 2km/h. Takes quite a while to reach that speed. still had plenty of road left on each occasion, but the reading would not change.

Smitty
24-08-2004, 09:32 PM
I can tell you that the 4 or so vehicles that I have had measured, the reading for a series 2 VX SS, Auto, with 3.07 diff is between 334 and 348 km/h. These speeds were measured under certain conditions and legally and were measured by accurate devices, which have a tolerance of + or - 2km/h. Takes quite a while to reach that speed. still had plenty of road left on each occasion, but the reading would not change.

hahahahahahaha
ya forget the last bit.....
you know.....
the bit about ......off the cliff....... :lol:

well...
If a 7litre racing Monaro..can only do 307
whats the only way a standard VX SS 4A can do 334??
but.....off the proverbial

Gavo
25-08-2004, 01:50 PM
Sorry that should have been 234and 248. I wish it was 334 but it wasnt. Just a typo. Im butting my head on the desk now.

Goggs
25-08-2004, 02:50 PM
242kmh in our LS1 VTII SS in 5th. Not sure of the revs - :confused: Stuff trying to look at that shit when the guideposts are going by quicker than palings in a white picket fence :eek:

As a side note they had a 427 Monaro from last year's 24HR Bathurst race at the Leyburn Sprints on the weekend. Anyone from here go??

seldo
25-08-2004, 03:04 PM
I can tell you that the 4 or so vehicles that I have had measured, the reading for a series 2 VX SS, Auto, with 3.07 diff is between 334 and 348 km/h. These speeds were measured under certain conditions and legally and were measured by accurate devices, which have a tolerance of + or - 2km/h. Takes quite a while to reach that speed. still had plenty of road left on each occasion, but the reading would not change.
Wow! You are unusual! Most people don't remember their dreams in that much detail....

markone2
25-08-2004, 03:25 PM
Sorry that should have been 234and 248. I wish it was 334 but it wasnt. Just a typo. Im butting my head on the desk now.


I should hope so :D

Smitty
25-08-2004, 04:10 PM
Sorry that should have been 234and 248. I wish it was 334 but it wasnt. Just a typo. Im butting my head on the desk now.


and it hurts.....not the headbutting but the embarassment... :lol:

mind you ...a VX SS 6speed manual has a THEORETICAL top speed
with std diff and in 6th gear at 5700rpm of around.....
400kmh

But NO standard VX SS has the grunt to pull 5700 in 6th....
oh well..maybe by the time VE arrives........... :rolleyes:

heavychevy
17-09-2004, 08:11 PM
For those in the outback, no speed restrictions.. clear blue skies.. You may know of Fish. I didn't, till I recieved this email yesterday. Was from a female friend in Alice.
"A couple of weeks ago I went on Fishes Run. Fish was a friend of ours who hit a camel on his motor bike and died instantly. Each year they organise a big weekend of camping and drinking. 150 Motor bikes went this year plus heaps of campers and families."

windsor
17-09-2004, 09:52 PM
The quickest the stang has been is past the 120mph mark on the speedo a needles width from touching the zero again with those webers screaming....on a test track of course in 4th 4.1diff 5000rpms.

windsor
17-09-2004, 10:02 PM
I forgot to mention my nuts where not big enough to go any faster or my pockets any deeper.
My heart was pounding ,**** it was scary after I slowed down and thought about it.

VXEXEC350
18-09-2004, 12:30 AM
I have often had mine to 95 before I change into third in the M6. :lol: :booty:

nzvxss
18-09-2004, 07:03 AM
My VTII done 240, My VXII does only 220 as there must be something wrong with it. Wont be able to see if Ive fixed the problem as Im walking for three months :(

SV8VY
18-09-2004, 07:19 AM
If anyone intends to do over 240 km (on the track of coarse) don't have a bonnet protector on....as it falls apart ;)

M&Ms
18-09-2004, 07:08 PM
If anyone intends to do over 240 km (on the track of coarse) don't have a bonnet protector on....as it falls apart ;)

nice tip hehe

kaniSS-81
19-09-2004, 01:26 AM
I dont have a Ls1 yet but the my VS and I have hit well over the speedo limit I would estimate 220-225, could of gone further and there was pleanty of road left but I ran out of balls. ( privately own road offcourse)

HSVMAN
19-09-2004, 08:47 AM
My VTII done 240, My VXII does only 220 as there must be something wrong with it. Wont be able to see if Ive fixed the problem as Im walking for three months :(
Heard of that prob before, not much to fix I'm told :)

XA coupe
19-09-2004, 11:23 AM
the XR8s are speed limited to 230 so there is no question..

team illucid
19-09-2004, 11:31 AM
Hit 220 on the speedo @ around the 2700rpm mark (in 6th with a 3.07 diff) and went to just over 3000 rpm before common sense tookover ... pretty well behaved on the road at that speed ...

I was amazed at how quik these LS1's will pull to the double ton !!

OscarTheGrouch
19-09-2004, 03:24 PM
I have often had mine to 95 before I change into third in the M6. :lol: :booty:

Only 95? I hit 105-110 in 2nd quite regularly but that's about where the rev limiter kicks in :booty:

Bumfluff
19-09-2004, 05:21 PM
Has anyone had the oppotunity to compare a standard LS1 and the Callaway (C4B) version at high speeds? Any differences between the 2 motors?

powerd
24-09-2004, 09:10 PM
have a VT11 SS A4, no engine mods. Did 247km/h according to the tacho. Was nicely stable at this speed and quite relaxed. held it for a while but it didn't want to go any faster.

SV99
25-09-2004, 01:10 PM
the XR8s are speed limited to 230 so there is no question..


in Motor Mag they go for a drive with craig lowndes and they hit 255 or 260 in a GT, cant remember its upstairs lol.

HSV ENHANCED VT
25-09-2004, 08:42 PM
I've only got to 230km in my VY SS, but I don't drive it much, I normally drive my VT. I will push it next time at Eastern Creek race day!

Edge
04-07-2006, 06:30 AM
Hi all

My 2001 SS VX 4 speed with some mods (bought it 2nd hand and don't know what it was as standard) pulled +/- 230 changing from 3rd to 4th before running out of road. How accurate is the speedo on this beast though?

No sweat about a disclaimer here- unlikely that any copper in Zululand (that is Shark country in Super 14 rugby) will be reading this.

Did however "spook" the road and there was no other trafic!

Regards
Edge

Smitty
04-07-2006, 07:43 AM
Hi all

My 2001 SS VX 4 speed with some mods (bought it 2nd hand and don't know what it was as standard) pulled +/- 230 changing from 3rd to 4th before running out of road. How accurate is the speedo on this beast though?




ummm
dont VX SS speedos only go to 220..???

Goggles
04-07-2006, 08:06 AM
:hmmm: thread mining again......

chilly
04-07-2006, 08:29 AM
ummm
dont VX SS speedos only go to 220..???

spot on mate

thats why i chucked in a HSV one :wave:

james2
04-07-2006, 10:10 AM
spot on mate

thats why i chucked in a HSV one :wave:Even they don't go high enough!!!!!!!! wound mine of a few mnths ago,nice quiet sun morning on the nth road from Alice, rather scary but also good to know that it will get to 250+.:driving:

clarkey62
04-07-2006, 03:57 PM
:hmmm: thread mining again......
Thats better than starting a new thread and getting flamed and told to use the search button isnt it:D

csv rulz
04-07-2006, 04:21 PM
My old man use to own a VX ss 2 M6 and we had that off the clock and she was still pulling we just about hit redline in 6th i reckon easy 250km. The car had an exhaust and the motor was a VY11 upgrade due to gudgin nock

VXSS346
04-07-2006, 04:42 PM
Redline in 6th?

csv rulz
04-07-2006, 04:54 PM
Redline in 6th?

i meant to say 5th sorry. It was done up in the bush where there are no speed limits

LSONE
04-07-2006, 06:39 PM
Ive had the experience of having a VX Clubby off the clock thats 250 km/h felt like it still had a bit left in it

gaz vyss
04-07-2006, 07:26 PM
I wouldn't have a clue what my VYSS does, but with near on double the ponies under the bonnet now.... I'm curious ...............and there is a dis-used airstrip 2k behind my property....
Nah... probably hit a cow and end up in a Mc Dona*ds burger.:hide:

bok1
04-07-2006, 07:31 PM
I have got my vx11 to 238 on a private road.i learnt the hard way to use a private rd my ex boss had a porche 911 turbo and i got clocked at 228 on the m4 and i got $2200 fine and lost my license for 12 months.lucky my uncle works at the goulburn police academy then saved me from going to jail.

BLACK 346
04-07-2006, 07:32 PM
ummm
dont VX SS speedos only go to 220..???

What about the Digital Speedo, doesn't that go to 250 or thereabouts?

Whizza
04-07-2006, 07:46 PM
~245 in my clubby last time looked at speedo ( didnt wanna take eyes off road ) still had heaps left in it .

in my old VN SS 237 according to the coppers they charged me $2500 for the use of their radar gun and invited me back to play tennis at their court .

Whizza

macca33
04-07-2006, 08:26 PM
Nope, haven't got there yet.........

I know that a VT2 m6 (3.46) once did a radar certified 264 - stock.

These things do fly, but sh!t happens real quick when doing those speeds.

100kph = 27 m/s;

200 = 54 m/s....by the time you have seen and react to something, you have already closed in onto it, by at least 100m, then commences the braking...........

Cheers,

Macca

OLS108
04-07-2006, 09:15 PM
178.16 or 110.70MPH all testing at Willowbank..

i have no intrest in seeing top speed, if i cant pass something or catch it By 110MPH i never will:dance:

BLOWN_R8
04-07-2006, 10:50 PM
I have wound mine off the clock in 5th gear no probs, I would love to get a speedo that I could measure terminal speed on however

Brendan
04-07-2006, 11:21 PM
I've only done 100kph in mine - TV says I'll die if I go faster and it's never lied to me yet.

OUTAtheBloo
04-07-2006, 11:41 PM
I've only done 100kph in mine - TV says I'll die if I go faster and it's never lied to me yet.


hahah ill pay that :)

markone2
05-07-2006, 05:38 AM
My old man use to own a VX ss 2 M6 and we had that off the clock and she was still pulling we just about hit redline in 6th i reckon easy 250km. The car had an exhaust and the motor was a VY11 upgrade due to gudgin nock




Gearbox:- T56-1386-22E[MM6] & 3.46F-D
Tyre:- 1990mm [RC]
---------------------------------------------------------
Top Gear gives 69.017 KPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 427.908 KPH at 6200 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
40 KPH = 580 RPM 50 KPH = 724 RPM 60 KPH = 869 RPM 80 KPH = 1159 RPM
100 KPH = 1449 RPM 110 KPH = 1594 RPM 130 KPH = 1884 RPM 160 KPH = 2318 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 80.434 KPH
And changes into 2 gear at 4149 RPM dropping 2051 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 120.199 KPH
And changes into 3 gear at 4528 RPM dropping 1672 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 164.580 KPH
And changes into 4 gear at 4769 RPM dropping 1431 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 213.954 KPH
And changes into 5 gear at 4588 RPM dropping 1612 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 289.127 KPH
And changes into 6 gear at 4189 RPM dropping 2011 RPM
Top Speed in 6 gear = 427.908 KPH

chilly
05-07-2006, 07:06 AM
178.16 or 110.70MPH all testing at Willowbank..

i have no intrest in seeing top speed, if i cant pass something or catch it By 110MPH i never will:dance:

and thats why ya the tow ball looker eh mate:love2:

Pickles
05-07-2006, 01:17 PM
Well, if this post was originally about the high speed performance of the Holden A4, then I guess Skaife put any doubts to rest by achieving 277kph(one way) in his recent record attempt.
I reckon the A4 is ok, but the other day, as I was thinking of the Skaife record, I became aware of the massive amount of speed our car is capable of (270ks+),& unfortunately, the major portion of which, I will most likely never be able to experience! A bit sad, I thought, unless I go to the N.T.
However, it's nice to have plenty of power on tap, & as my wife says, it's not the top speed that counts, it's how quickly you get there!
Cheers, Pickles.

breakthelaw
05-07-2006, 02:41 PM
Can't believe the speed nannies on this thread - some guy warning us about coppers searching thread for speedsters!!! Or worrying about the public perception of posts that talk about speeding.

You must think the fine police officers of this land have a lot of spare time on their hands. And what would they then do - try and identify you from the post (yeah right!) then stake out your house (yeah right!!) then follow you and hope that you speed (yeah riiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhttttt !!!!!!!!). No copper in the land would issue a summons or ticket on the basis of a post on this thread (come on all police out there - I know there are quite a few of you as members - comment on that). No court in the land would convict on the basis of a post on this site - you would simply need to say that your post was made up - as many, many ,many posts on this and every other site are - "beyond reasonable doubt".

At the risk of insulting quite a few other members, I use this site for entertainment and information only, and mainly for entertainment - e.g. Look at my moniker - The fact is that I am a law abiding citizen - I never break the law - except - for the occasional - (quite often actually) - over application of the right foot to the pedal - that's why I chose my moniker - to try and upset the speed nannies (they piss me off with their constant preaching on this site) Not because I want to encourage law breaking. Its for entertainment - my entertainment.

Chill out, stop worrying about fairies in the bushes and get back to the realisation that this site is open for any comment that anybodys imagination can come up with - the posts are not reality - some of it may be but we can't tell which part that is - and neither can the law.

Smitty
05-07-2006, 02:50 PM
... as my wife says, it's not the speed that counts, it's how quickly you get there!


my missus tells me to ...go slow:lol:








sorry Pickles...couldn't help it
Smitty ducks

Edge
07-07-2006, 03:45 AM
ummm
dont VX SS speedos only go to 220..???
Hi- I don't want to steal the thread - mine is a South African Chevy Lumina SS which is to the best of my knowledge a Commodore VXSS. Speedo is marked to 250.
Edge

frenchyss
07-07-2006, 01:31 PM
Have a vt 2 ss, auto, with 3.73 diff, comfortably reched 255kmh but ran outa road, i was surprised it still had a fair bit more to give.....
cheers...

monarocv8r
07-07-2006, 05:28 PM
271 on the gps then ran out of road.. all on private property:eyes:

OneManEmpire
07-07-2006, 06:17 PM
A couple years ago I was cruising along @ 150-160km/h in the SV300. Noticed a set of headlights zeroing in very quickly, until they were right up my date, but he wouldn't pass. Every time I passed someone, he was right behind me. Then on a very, very long straight, I dropped the hammer.....and got hammered!!! I was off the clock, digital speedo showed 258km/h when this guy flew by, (note, flew by!!!), in a brand new Porsche 911 Turbo.....truly awesome!!!!! (and just a little humbling!), did manage to claw back a little respect though and nail him through a subsequent 58km long gorge cos his foot was permanently glued to the brakes, seems when the going got tough he couldn't quite cut the mustard!!!


I love people that drive fast in a straight line, but like you, I enjoy the corners...

I'm on my 3rd Yamaha R1 now, and I can say to you that there's nothing better than putting along at the speed limit (in the car) and have some nutter glued to the rear bumper... in the straights, yet 100 metres before the next corner they apply the brakes while I open it up some more, then they catch up again... then when I get annoyed at how lame their driving is, I up the ante and dissapear on them.

I recently had a sticker made for the bumper of my daily driver (96 Maxima)
that says: Warning I Don't Drive Like You :lmao:

I just got sick of all the "would be's" who think they can whip you in the twisty stuff...

It's even funier when they drive something that actually handles... not like the Maxima...

Cheers

OneManEmpire
07-07-2006, 07:46 PM
Yep I have...

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/OneManEmpire/250kays.jpg

this was in in the northern territory... :shock: :bounce:

Ghosn
07-07-2006, 09:41 PM
Yep I have...

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/OneManEmpire/250kays.jpg

this was in in the northern territory... :shock: :bounce:

Off topic:

Your current ride.... Sounds like a beast, do u plan to showcase it to the rest of the forum so we may drool? :)

VUSV8
08-07-2006, 01:29 AM
with the A4 and 3.7's in the ute WOT shift from 3-4 bang on 200km/h at 6000rpm

Jag530G
08-07-2006, 11:23 AM
Gearbox:- T56-1386-22E[MM6] & 3.46F-D
Tyre:- 1990mm [RC]
---------------------------------------------------------
Top Gear gives 69.017 KPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 427.908 KPH at 6200 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
40 KPH = 580 RPM 50 KPH = 724 RPM 60 KPH = 869 RPM 80 KPH = 1159 RPM
100 KPH = 1449 RPM 110 KPH = 1594 RPM 130 KPH = 1884 RPM 160 KPH = 2318 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 80.434 KPH
And changes into 2 gear at 4149 RPM dropping 2051 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 120.199 KPH
And changes into 3 gear at 4528 RPM dropping 1672 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 164.580 KPH
And changes into 4 gear at 4769 RPM dropping 1431 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 213.954 KPH
And changes into 5 gear at 4588 RPM dropping 1612 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 289.127 KPH
And changes into 6 gear at 4189 RPM dropping 2011 RPM
Top Speed in 6 gear = 427.908 KPH

This shows the only practical way for an reasonably modded LS1 to get to 300kph would be to fit a 3.07 or 3.27 diff ratio behind an M6 so that it acheives 300kph in 5th gear, Sure it wouldn't be a drag racer but it would acheive this goal, cheers Matthew

OneManEmpire
09-07-2006, 10:36 PM
Off topic:

Your current ride.... Sounds like a beast, do u plan to showcase it to the rest of the forum so we may drool? :)


Yes. When I get time, you may already know this car as I have recently
purchased it from Matt at G&D performance down in Cranbourne.

I drove it back from Crannie last night, and man I can tell you in 3 words how it goes:

Frightening

Intimidating

Ballistic

I have a 2001 Yamaha R1 with less than 10,000kms on it, and my CV8 would
suck the fairings off it, and could almost outbrake the bike to I suspect.

GREAT RIDE this is. A mighty big thanks to G&D for the car to.

If you want to go fast... go and see them. They WILL MAKE your dreams come true.

No i don't work for them, but i can vouch for the work they do.

Cheers

vt350phantom
09-07-2006, 11:17 PM
Holy shit 560rwkw! That must be a handful. Do you plan to take it up the quarter? Sounds like an easy 10 if you can get traction!!!:headbang:

Ghosn
10-07-2006, 12:52 AM
Ahh, Matt's car. Hope u have life insurance hehe

MattJ
11-07-2006, 10:08 PM
I drove it back from Crannie last night, and man I can tell you in 3 words how it goes:

Frightening

Intimidating

Ballistic



Mitch, i though i heard your jaw drop tonight when i told you you have only been drving around on low boost!! There are no words to describe how it goes with the full dose of boost....

Im getting over the loss of my car.... not.

Im thinking very seriously of turbocharging my dirt box 4AGE Corolla, changing the good tyres for bald ones, adding a constantly variable direction steering rack and adding oil squirters for all four tyres just to keep me mildly entertained on my to and from work now... life just seems empty and meaningless now. Im over it though...:confused:

MattJ
11-07-2006, 10:19 PM
Glad your happy Mitch,you've got one hell of a machine.I'm sure knowing you that you'll test it's top speed potential(in controlled conditions of course).

Don't worry Matt,your new machine will hold it's own.lol.The Corolla's a fun little beast & will allow you to appreciate the power of your new weapon when it comes.I'm not happy about letting the ute go either.Ahh the things you do for R&D.It's a tough industry if you wan't to be at the top,you can't sit still for too long.;)

Regards Glenn

Jim@YellaTerra
11-07-2006, 11:35 PM
agreed Glen ...fyeah!!:burnout:

OneManEmpire
12-07-2006, 12:07 AM
Mitch, i though i heard your jaw drop tonight when i told you you have only been drving around on low boost!! There are no words to describe how it goes with the full dose of boost....

Im getting over the loss of my car.... not.

Im thinking very seriously of turbocharging my dirt box 4AGE Corolla, changing the good tyres for bald ones, adding a constantly variable direction steering rack and adding oil squirters for all four tyres just to keep me mildly entertained on my to and from work now... life just seems empty and meaningless now. Im over it though...:confused:


I have just the thing for you Matt my friend...

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/OneManEmpire/Hill_Climb/


It truely is the best driving I've ever seen... it even compares to
the Monaro for it's sheer speed. :bow:

Check it out

Have a squizz at the pics in there after you watch it to see what the hell it was. Awesome.

Yea yea... enough of the LOW BOOST lecture... tis funny having 400+ RWKW's on low boost tho!!! :eek:

vt350phantom
12-07-2006, 12:17 AM
All I can say is, WOW UNBELIEVABLE!!

YIIR8
12-07-2006, 01:11 AM
Here's an old pic of my speedo ......
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/YIIR8/Speedo2.jpg

OOPS....wrong one..hehehehe
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/YIIR8/speedo1.jpg

Nawdy
15-07-2006, 08:49 AM
Here's an old pic of my speedo ......
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/YIIR8/Speedo2.jpg

OOPS....wrong one..hehehehe
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/YIIR8/speedo1.jpg

Ah, I miss those LS1 cruises down the Track (Stuart Hwy). If I tried that here in Victoria, I'd be branded an insane criminal and locked up with murderers and thieves. Probably even make the newspapers and news bulletin on TV. You gotta love the Bracks Crap, and his version of the law - guilty before you are proven innocent.

I've given up telling people down here what speed we cruised at legally up there - they just :hmmm: and think you are full of it.

SS78300
15-07-2006, 04:28 PM
Hi guys,

When stock, i hit the 245 KPH..

After installing the pacemaker headers, exhaust, and a tune by CAPA i hit the 260 KPH and kept on going, i was in a VY series I... :driving:

Kirium
17-07-2006, 11:44 PM
Ah, I miss those LS1 cruises down the Track (Stuart Hwy). If I tried that here in Victoria, I'd be branded an insane criminal and locked up with murderers and thieves. Probably even make the newspapers and news bulletin on TV. You gotta love the Bracks Crap, and his version of the law - guilty before you are proven innocent.

I've given up telling people down here what speed we cruised at legally up there - they just :hmmm: and think you are full of it.

The good old days hey Tony??? :driving:

klink
28-07-2006, 11:39 PM
There is a nice LONG "airstrip" about 180km west of the ISA.
My beast, though not a LS1, does 254km/h by the GPS when the limiter says "no more". I held it for over 5 minutes (doesn't sound long but it was over 20 km). Fuel economy wasn't.

For those who wish to play at this speed please note that you will do about 1km every 13 seconds and you will take longer than that to stop unless you have upgraded brakes e.g. Brembos etc.

This means that if you see some moo cattles or a caktorian with a caravan wandering onto the track a K or so up front YOU WILL HIT THEM.


old thread i know.

Good to see you crossed the border before letting rip cause the first 180km west of isa is shocking, not to mention the cattle but it is a good straight bit of road to have fun on.

Took my bike out there once.

HSV SV99
29-07-2006, 12:08 AM
i've had mine to 240 almost of the clock and the front windscreen seal (the press in one) blew out and the windscreen lifted at the top. air came rushing in scared the living shit out of me and almost blew my eardrums out. I had the windscreen re sealed later and the guy said that it hadn't been primed properly before the sickaflex went on and thats why it had sepperated.
just be aware you never know what can happen at high speeds

gaz vyss
29-07-2006, 09:22 AM
Not sure if this thread is dead.... but the I can vouch that the standard A4 will do 250+.

BLOWN_R8
29-07-2006, 11:48 AM
Wound off the clock in 5th still pulling like a train..............:driving:

vxls1fun
31-07-2006, 05:58 PM
238km/h in my vx ss was going by a gps speedo so not sure how acurate that is. and yes i was in a private road.;) :driving: ps it is a auto a 5100rpm so it had a litle more.

blkV8
02-11-2006, 04:54 PM
210km/h 5th gear manual, limiter kicked in :doh:

Elite SS
02-11-2006, 06:10 PM
Bear in mind gentlemen you are in a public section of the forum, anyone in the world (or your local copper) can see white you post...........


999 kl/h when the rev limiter cut in...George st. Sydney 1:30 pm.

seriously what a stupid question....and yea of course I've taken mine to ### kl/h.

[QUOTE=keen;334059]Bloke I bought my GTS off reacons on a radar gun at an air strip , he was clocked at 271 km , in 5th , in 6th only did 250 ?Personally I once had it up to 115 km but I started to really get scared so I slowed down.

Legend...:driving: :lmao: :bravo: :cheers:

blkV8
02-11-2006, 06:30 PM
[QUOTE=MARTY;334024]Bear in mind gentlemen you are in a public section of the forum, anyone in the world (or your local copper) can see white you post...........


999 kl/h when the rev limiter cut in...George st. Sydney 1:30 pm.

seriously what a stupid question....and yea of course I've taken mine to ### kl/h.



Legend...:driving: :lmao: :bravo: :cheers:

So What mate,
They dont know where or when these speeds were done.... could have been anywhere (NT for example),Race track drag strip and so on

jona
02-11-2006, 08:49 PM
i know of a 402ci auto that is capable of over 280...lol

Benno25
02-11-2006, 08:55 PM
I've had the sunroof let go on mine when off the speedo, gave me a bit of a fright and did a bit of damage to the car. Just got a new one and are a little worried about doing those kind of speeds now.

Might have to give it a few more cracks before all these bloody speed limits come in though and while i still can.

Wonder what the fine etc would be for doing 130+ over the speed limit?

Cheers
Benno

possum22
03-11-2006, 08:13 PM
old thread i know.

Good to see you crossed the border before letting rip cause the first 180km west of isa is shocking, not to mention the cattle but it is a good straight bit of road to have fun on.

Took my bike out there once.
N.T. will be limited to 130 kph by end of 2007.
http://www.nt.gov.au/dcm/ocm/media/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewRelease&id=1011&d=5

CalaisRider
03-11-2006, 10:03 PM
Makes you wonder what all the power is about, I don't see a "lot" of what I'd call big speed numbers in this thread (some ar though). I've been in a V6 Executive VT at just under 200kph on the speedo (backed off). My old man's V6 Ford Capri did 123mph way back when, and many a time I saw my mates GTHO run to the 140 mph limit of his speedo.

Don't get me wrong I'm getting a Calais V, 6 litre in two weeks and aiming for 270rkw.

SICK SS
03-11-2006, 10:45 PM
Makes you wonder what all the power is about

pulling my supercharged jetski out of the water:D

Chev Lumina SS
04-11-2006, 04:40 AM
300+ blown 402......, not great video quality but anyway.....ran out of road in the end.....:thumbsup:
http://www.snakebite.co.za/videos/snakebite300.wmv

spuddamonaro
04-11-2006, 08:28 AM
300+ blown 402......, not great video quality but anyway.....ran out of road in the end.....:thumbsup:
http://www.snakebite.co.za/videos/snakebite300.wmv

wow!! very game at night too!! who knows what could have run out!! still impressivwe though. i have not been game enough to test mine yet. my speed related accident fixed me up good.

Pete

Vulture
04-11-2006, 09:05 AM
This sort of thread gives us a bad name. Couldn't we keep it in the private area at least? Top speed is so lame, acceleration is where it's at.

Nutter
04-11-2006, 10:18 AM
I guess as with every thread here, for those of you who dont like it you dont have to read it.

spac
04-11-2006, 02:36 PM
300+ blown 402......, not great video quality but anyway.....ran out of road in the end.....:thumbsup:
http://www.snakebite.co.za/videos/snakebite300.wmv

Thats CraZy.. My V8 needs boost i think! :driving:

Elite SS
04-11-2006, 05:06 PM
[QUOTE=Elite SS;759373]

So What mate,
They dont know where or when these speeds were done.... could have been anywhere (NT for example),Race track drag strip and so on

Thats not the point was making....half the posts are bullshit now we just have to sort out the bullshit speeds against the illegal one's....
Be serious mate...what kind of answers did you expect...
Running an LS1 down the qtr isn't it's max speed...and I really don't think some one would drive to the NT just to see how fast their car can go...unless 1/3 of the members are from their...I could be wrong....
If you really want to find out just jump on any American Forum where it states 270 Kl/h out of a 1999 LS 1 or 315 kl/h out of a Z 6 Corvette.

CalaisRider
16-11-2006, 07:02 PM
Gearbox:- T56-1386-22E[MM6] & 3.46F-D
Tyre:- 1990mm [RC]
---------------------------------------------------------
Top Gear gives 69.017 KPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 427.908 KPH at 6200 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
40 KPH = 580 RPM 50 KPH = 724 RPM 60 KPH = 869 RPM 80 KPH = 1159 RPM
100 KPH = 1449 RPM 110 KPH = 1594 RPM 130 KPH = 1884 RPM 160 KPH = 2318 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 80.434 KPH
And changes into 2 gear at 4149 RPM dropping 2051 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 120.199 KPH
And changes into 3 gear at 4528 RPM dropping 1672 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 164.580 KPH
And changes into 4 gear at 4769 RPM dropping 1431 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 213.954 KPH
And changes into 5 gear at 4588 RPM dropping 1612 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 289.127 KPH
And changes into 6 gear at 4189 RPM dropping 2011 RPM
Top Speed in 6 gear = 427.908 KPH

Hey MarkOne2 I'm thoretically impressed!!

Can you do same for VE 6 litre auto stock Calais - we all have different setups but a theoretical gauge is interesting - to me anyway:hide:

bungrs
17-11-2006, 10:36 AM
230km/h is the speed the tuner had her to before the last tune in 3rd (A4) on the dyno.

MYVYSS
17-11-2006, 11:37 AM
Private Road, Police mode on.....approx 10km long stretch..

Topped at 273 in 5th, Never again very scary stuff.....

lee ls1
17-11-2006, 11:54 AM
235 is best i had from my vz ss man ute but still had some more to go, not bad for standed!!:driving:

IH84DS
20-11-2006, 05:19 PM
I was trying to clock 300 but only managed 293... Oh, and it was on my Ducati 999R sorry didn't read the LS1 part.

(this was achieved in my very very very long driveway);)

clubbie
20-11-2006, 06:15 PM
This shows the only practical way for an reasonably modded LS1 to get to 300kph would be to fit a 3.07 or 3.27 diff ratio behind an M6 so that it acheives 300kph in 5th gear, Sure it wouldn't be a drag racer but it would acheive this goal, cheers Matthew

Or much simpler would be to raise the rev limiter to 6500rpm = 302km/h:D

Thats provided you have the grunt to pull 300km/h

Clubbie

Chevvy SS
23-11-2006, 01:30 AM
2005 Chev Lumina SS Auto, with 3.46 diff ratio (and other mods)and 50.25 km per 1000 rpm. Did 5700 rpms in 4th last week, with digital and manual speedo sticking at 260 since 5200 rpms.

=285?

Holden Nut
23-11-2006, 01:38 AM
I'm very interested in finding one of these "private roads" many of you guys have mentioned...private roads is one thing...ones that are long/flat/smooth/wide enough for 250km/h+ is another thing.

vutess
23-11-2006, 01:42 AM
thought the ute's were limited at 210 or 220, i know mine stopped me at like 218 on the speedo, how did lee Ls1 do this (above), are the vz's dif and have the limiter removed or is he full of it.

cheers

Holden Nut
23-11-2006, 01:57 AM
thought the ute's were limited at 210 or 220, i know mine stopped me at like 218 on the speedo, how did lee Ls1 do this (above), are the vz's dif and have the limiter removed or is he full of it.

cheers
Several possibilities:

* Could be full of it
* Could have had limiter turned off
* VZ's might be different

BOSSONNOS
23-11-2006, 08:26 AM
VZ SSZ Ute 3.9"s 260kmh @ 5500rpm in 5th.

Chevvy SS
23-11-2006, 03:13 PM
I'm very interested in finding one of these "private roads" many of you guys have mentioned...private roads is one thing...ones that are long/flat/smooth/wide enough for 250km/h+ is another thing.

Nut, I am living in South Africa, where we have such roads, a plenty!

Devil
23-11-2006, 03:23 PM
Have done around 60kph in reverse :flip2:

SV346
13-05-2007, 12:39 AM
got well past the 250kmh speedo in the sv8 up in the NT a while back :) lol good one 60 in reverse :driving:
For what you pay the commodores are incredible at those speeds hey!

BLACKWAGON
13-05-2007, 12:54 AM
240 in 5th, no need to go further.(standard gears and 235rw) in the desert.

leadfoot
13-05-2007, 04:19 PM
there will always be more need 4 speed:driving: 220-xa coon 6,200-lx hatch 308,225-xj600,230-351 hardtop 73,280-1100xx,300-fzr1000,vyls1???too gutless needs much much more?ls7 sounds like the way to go:love: 427 yeah baby

FANG IT 350
13-05-2007, 04:41 PM
250kmh a4 and was easily still pulling but :yahoo: :yahoo: thats as far as my speedo goes ,so not sure what it would of done,done on air strip in east gippsland.

HSVGTS215i
13-08-2007, 11:36 AM
After watching the moron on TV claim 290kph I was wondering is this possible in a Commo?

emg
13-08-2007, 12:46 PM
wind resistance would be killin ya.. you would need some serious power to push 290

HSVGTS215i
13-08-2007, 12:55 PM
Im sure motor mag got a vt monaro to 279kph so an extra 10kph with mods wouldnt be too far fetched?

dt86vyss
13-08-2007, 05:07 PM
I Watched A Youtube Where They Filmed The Speedo - In A Vy Ss In 5th Around 250 And Into 6th Revs Down To 4 Grand And Pushed Well Up Passed 6 Grand But Unsure Of The Speed As The Speedo Finishes At 260km/h But I Think It Would Have Been Around 300km

HSVGTS215i
13-08-2007, 05:25 PM
I Watched A Youtube Where They Filmed The Speedo - In A Vy Ss In 5th Around 250 And Into 6th Revs Down To 4 Grand And Pushed Well Up Passed 6 Grand But Unsure Of The Speed As The Speedo Finishes At 260km/h But I Think It Would Have Been Around 300km



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/markrice/grammartime.gif

VXSS346
13-08-2007, 05:29 PM
I Watched A Youtube Where They Filmed The Speedo - In A Vy Ss In 5th Around 250 And Into 6th Revs Down To 4 Grand And Pushed Well Up Passed 6 Grand But Unsure Of The Speed As The Speedo Finishes At 260km/h But I Think It Would Have Been Around 300km

Even if that was a real video, it could be from a car with a shorter diff ratio and speedo not recalibrated. IE: speedo reads much higher than actual.

Call me a sceptic, but that's just me.

Mungrel
13-08-2007, 05:38 PM
Even if that was a real video, it could be from a car with a shorter diff ratio and speedo not recalibrated. IE: speedo reads much higher than actual.

Call me a sceptic, but that's just me.

very true,
i filmed a mate with an LS1 in his HX tunna do exactly that, according to the speedo he was pullin 280 in 3rd gear lol. I doubt he was doing much more than probably 160.

michaels1v8
13-08-2007, 09:00 PM
I have been to 220 but stopped there. No point going any further as the speedo only goes to 220.

Was on a nice flat open road 30 odd kms out of town out of the way of anyone.

These cars are scary when you think about it. 200 was once a dream of many a few decades ago and now your run in the mill ls1 commo can do it easy.

FatBoy
14-08-2007, 05:52 PM
very true,
i filmed a mate with an LS1 in his HX tunna do exactly that, according to the speedo he was pullin 280 in 3rd gear lol. I doubt he was doing much more than probably 160.


I didn't realise HX tunnas came out with speedos that read up to 280km/h ??

*cough*

T_Kiwi
14-08-2007, 05:53 PM
nah, too scared too:)

HSV Listy
14-08-2007, 10:04 PM
Here is one for you.
VX GTS. 0 to 250 run. Stock standard trim.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/th_Carvids089.jpg (http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/?action=view&current=Carvids089.flv)
I think it works out to be about 45 seconds

And out the front of the windscreen

Photo of the end result

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/250kphlegallyonNTroads.jpg

My best was a even 69km in 18 min 30 sec.
Did 19 min on the return run.

IH8FORDS
14-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Listy, what the hell was that sound at the end of the video clip?:confused::toetap:

Lokky
14-08-2007, 10:32 PM
Got to about 200kph in a M6 SSZ in the Territory.

Still had a fair bit to go, but assessed the risk and decided that going higher wasn't worth the chance.

I've had a blow out on a rear tyre on a cruiser at 140kph and it was really scary.

Speed thrills, but consider all the risks before you give it a squirt. There's no second chance if you come unstuck at 200kph.

HSV Listy
15-08-2007, 08:37 AM
I think the noise you are talking about is the shift light beeper on the GTS. In the background there is also the cap from the video camera ticking against the stand in the car.
I have a few more clips like it but not downloaded them. One 19 min long of flat out driving. Not often you average over 210 on the speed average on the dash.

One clip did not work
Here is is again. It was a bit faster than 250. Guess about 260 or so going from what was on the RPM's and the long straight. Not all of it is on the film as it got too long. Good old Sunday drive. Bloody NT government ruining our fun. It all has to be done on racetracks now but that is cool fun also.
Best the GTS has ever done was 274km/h going from a GPS I borrowed. I think that is about right flat out on the limiter in 5th. It was a bloody long straight too.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/th_Carvids090.jpg (http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/?action=view&current=Carvids090.flv)

Pic of the GTS on a track day.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/GTSontrack1.jpg

StockCV8-R
03-04-2008, 09:42 PM
CV8-R monaro 260rwkw 260 km/h (the speedo needle had stopped) in 6th doing about 3900RPM on a 3.46 diff ratio, still pulling harder than a stock 6cyl commodore. I calculated potential top speed of a manual 6 speed with 3.46 on 18" wheels at 6000rpm and it worked out to 352km/h

Benboy
04-04-2008, 08:33 AM
CV8-R monaro 260rwkw 260 km/h (the speedo needle had stopped) in 6th doing about 3900RPM on a 3.46 diff ratio, still pulling harder than a stock 6cyl commodore. I calculated potential top speed of a manual 6 speed with 3.46 on 18" wheels at 6000rpm and it worked out to 352km/h

Wow 352 km/ph - that's even quicker than a V8 Supercar. I guess that a V8 would 'pull harder' than a stock 6cyl Commodore - don't know why though !

CarlFST60L
04-04-2008, 09:51 AM
Wow 352 km/ph - that's even quicker than a V8 Supercar. I guess that a V8 would 'pull harder' than a stock 6cyl Commodore - don't know why though !

Because doing >350km/h in a commodore is total suicide, stupid, and probably impossible to do with any saftey margin i.e. would need to be highly modified in every area. Besides the wind resistance is so high that you would need 1000hp to actually get it to there...

The Veyron does 400km/h (~50km/h faster) that required 1000hp to get their out of a quad turbo W16, and, insane low drag design, plus suspensions that put the car on the deck. The tires only last a few minutes at that speed! Anyone that thinks they can take their commodore even to 350km/h without SERIOUS work is dreaming, or suicidal.

I have done just over 260km/h with 250kwrw, and there is no way i would go much faster, and the car wouldnt do much more either as the drag goes up very quickly making it impossible to push the car through the air... Having done 300km/h on a bike, the difference between 260km/h and 300km/h is quite substantial, let alone up at 350km/h

VX2VESS
04-04-2008, 10:03 AM
CV8-R monaro 260rwkw 260 km/h (the speedo needle had stopped) in 6th doing about 3900RPM on a 3.46 diff ratio, still pulling harder than a stock 6cyl commodore. I calculated potential top speed of a manual 6 speed with 3.46 on 18" wheels at 6000rpm and it worked out to 352km/h

switch to digital speedo on dash display.

prob go to gaol for that speed on the road.

seldo
04-04-2008, 10:16 AM
CV8-R monaro 260rwkw 260 km/h (the speedo needle had stopped) in 6th doing about 3900RPM on a 3.46 diff ratio, still pulling harder than a stock 6cyl commodore. I calculated potential top speed of a manual 6 speed with 3.46 on 18" wheels at 6000rpm and it worked out to 352km/h Sure was pulling hard.....:rolleyes: In yer dreams champ....like in free-fall down a mine-shaft...

xploit
04-04-2008, 10:29 AM
250kmh a4 and was easily still pulling but :yahoo: :yahoo: thats as far as my speedo goes ,so not sure what it would of done,done on air strip in east gippsland.

That airstrip wouldnt of happened to be around the back of bengworden between stratford and bairnsdale would it :rofl:

HSV Listy
04-04-2008, 10:51 AM
I have no idea what that loud clunk noise at the end of the video is. Must be hitting the stand or something. I know what you were talking about now.

If you are going to do a run borrow a GPS that records speed or switch to the digital dash as mentioned above. GPS will be spot on without any discrepancies. In the Maloo they did that run with for the fastest ute in the world they got to 277km/h. Wind assisted.

Get it on camera if you do a run. Proven then and great to watch when you are older and realize how utterly stupid you were.

I sit back and watch my Darwin to Adelaide river drive and others once every now and then for a bit of entertainment or show it when mates are over if they are interested. I have enough footage to do a DVD length movie with all high speed driving. These days the most I get to is 230km/h on the main straight of hidden valley. The misses is much happier doing this on the circuit than on the highways.
Just be careful and not in areas where you put others to risk.

matls1
04-04-2008, 03:25 PM
have done 274 on a gps still pulling hard and the digilal still stops on 260

throttlehappy
04-04-2008, 09:50 PM
220's as far as ive taken mine
gets hairy when the road isnt dead flat

WH_IKID
04-04-2008, 10:05 PM
I had an XD Falcon 6cyl I took to 200. Was pretty freaky in a bad suspension old car. Shat myself. :spew:

Had the WH on the dyno at 220+ :rofl: But seriously had it to 160 pretty easy. Go too fast.........and get caught...........not good!

Smithy101
04-04-2008, 10:44 PM
About 270 kp/h over 400metres from a standing start...but that was about 3 years ago and a sh#t track!:) and yes it was a true LS1!

BLACKVE
04-04-2008, 10:57 PM
Got up to 247km/h and pulling hard in 5th, pulled out due to lack of road and being an idiot doing it!!!!!!

chook
05-04-2008, 10:22 AM
Simple question, WHY, things happen way to quick at that speed simple mistake and your F^&(*&^.

Desertws6
05-04-2008, 10:41 AM
163mph(262 klph) in the top of 5th gear (.67 overdrive) , did not shift to 6th (.50 overdrive). Done on chassis dyno. Did not want to overspeed the tires, rated at 155+mph.

I will admit to hitting 125mph(201 klph), while passing "Gomerfudd" on the interstate. Car was climbing very rapidly.

Normallly I do not drive like this, the butthead really got under my skin.:booty:

Normal cruising speed on the interstate 90mph (144 klph), turning 2000 rpm.

Cheers,
Steve

Devil505
05-04-2008, 11:35 AM
I've pushed mine to 252km/h that was off a gps up in the NT,
the last day of the open speed limits
I have an A4 LS1, she still felt like she had more in her,
nearly ripped the doors of a VT wagon as i passed it, lol

HOWQUICK
05-04-2008, 01:20 PM
307kph on a GPS is the best I have heard of....no time for looking at speedos.....

KPWISHN
05-04-2008, 01:44 PM
307km/hr :shock: That would be scary as hell. The limiter in 5th was enough for me back in the day. I'd like to try out what it would do now.

Nutter
20-04-2008, 01:49 PM
in the clubby it felt fine, in my GQ Patrol it is scary lol

iloveholden
18-05-2008, 04:12 PM
I know this thread is old but i came across it again. Some pretty high speeds here.

About 2 months ago i was with a some mates in an old Ford Fairlane, going out on a Saturday night. Went down Welshpool Rd Hill (for Perth people) at about 100k's which is about 20ks over (i wasnt driving but was in front seat). We were chatting and all of a sudden the bonnent flipped up smashing the windscreen and then slaming the roof in but still managing to stay on so therefore we couldnt see where we were going at about 100k. So my mate braked hard, there was no one around at the time, and jumped the curb and tried to miss all the gum trees on the side of the road. He did really well and missed them all and then we came to a stop, got out and all 5 of us just starting laughing, the bloody bonnet clamp thing broke totally off. My mate used his belt to tie the bonnet back down to the front of the car and took the car home and used his mums car.

Kinda seems that you can run into unexpected trouble at moderate speeds as well.

vyc4b
18-05-2008, 04:58 PM
"apparently" a mate of mine had a drive of the vy and got it upto 225 before I looked down and said...."few, fark where moving" he slowed down and couldn't believe how well a nearly stock {tune, pipes/zorst and otr} GTS would pull at high speed......I was shocked myself at how strong it became in 4th @ wot.
I have no doubt it would 'DO' what the speedo finishes at.
Of course I would never condone this and must also say it was a country road where you could see for a long way in all areas.......so we would of almost certainly only hurt ourselves.

cbwolf
18-05-2008, 05:08 PM
Here is one for you.
VX GTS. 0 to 250 run. Stock standard trim.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/th_Carvids089.jpg (http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/?action=view&current=Carvids089.flv)
I think it works out to be about 45 seconds

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This, this gives you an idea of the difference between a "bloody fast" car, and a "supercar".

Listy's GTS 0 - 250 in 45 seconds...a Bugatti Veyron, 0 - 300 in 16 seconds. :confused:

macca_779
18-05-2008, 05:58 PM
I did a run a little while ago when a CBR 600 got a little cocky. I don't have Video but I have the EFI LIVE logs to show the data. Took 36 seconds which is quite off the pace to previous attempts due to the heat on the day.. Re IAT temps. Ahh this was on the Stuart Highway before the speed limits came in too. :confused: O and yes I got passed the bike.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i39/macca_779/Random%20Crap/SpeedLog.jpg

Oztrack Tuning
18-05-2008, 06:03 PM
You know you cant log over 255kph Macca. But the new E38 dma pid let the speedo go past 255kph.

I once did a burnout by accident in 4th on new tyres that made it to the limit. We estimated later they made it to 268kph.

Also out of curiosity - how long did it take the get from 100kph to 250kph in seconds?

macca_779
18-05-2008, 06:04 PM
You know you cant log over 255kph Macca. But the new E38 dma pid let the speedo go past 255kph.

I once did a burnout by accident in 4th on new tyres that made it to the limit. We estimated later they made it to 268kph.

Yeah I know Steve. Its very annoying, but I have GPS on board. 100-250 took 30 seconds according to the log.. I need an exhaust as you can see by the airflow. Its been quicker in the past but I haven't got a log of previous attempts.. That particular day the ambient was brutal and I have a bit of IAT/SPARK pulling going on for those temps to keep things under control.

KPWISHN
18-05-2008, 06:09 PM
Listy's GTS 0 - 250 in 45 seconds...a Bugatti Veyron, 0 - 300 in 16 seconds. :confused:

Does a Veyron really go that fast? :confused: That's wild for something you can drive on the street.

cbwolf
18-05-2008, 06:24 PM
Does a Veyron really go that fast? :confused: That's wild for something you can drive on the street.

Apparently so.

0 - 100: 2.5s
0 - 200: 7.4s
0 - 300: 16.7s

So that means, by the time a reasonably quick car reaches 100km/h, the Veyron will be doing 200. :eyes:

vyc4b
18-05-2008, 06:37 PM
Does a Veyron really go that fast? :confused: That's wild for something you can drive on the street.

heres an idea of how fast the Veyron is............:1peek:
YouTube - Bugatti Veyron vs Mclaren SLR (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=unRvopGXCgA)

M&Ms
18-05-2008, 07:41 PM
heres an idea of how fast the Veyron is............:1peek:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=unRvopGXCgA

For visual pleasure.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fznT6R791IQ&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fznT6R791IQ&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

you can notice it takes some time to get up from zero to 60 but goes like a bullet straight after

vuss383
18-05-2008, 07:56 PM
You know you cant log over 255kph Macca. But the new E38 dma pid let the speedo go past 255kph.

I once did a burnout by accident in 4th on new tyres that made it to the limit. We estimated later they made it to 268kph.

Also out of curiosity - how long did it take the get from 100kph to 250kph in seconds?

Steve , 4th gear from 80kph to 245 in 9.6 sec's ! :smilesandbanana:

Oztrack Tuning
19-05-2008, 12:02 AM
My car in a 11.0/122mph pass does 80-204 in about 9.6s.



Macca
100 - 250kph taking 30s sounds like a distance roughly 1.5km as well. It would take at least 3km to get to maximum speed i think.

SS Enforcer
19-05-2008, 12:13 AM
These guys in Dubai are out playing in a Veyron ... it doesn't seem right somehow.



YouTube - Bugatti Veyron in Dubai- speed from 60 to 300 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hs6gviE0oY)

cheers

HSV Listy
19-05-2008, 08:58 AM
What is with the little picture of a symbol of a person with arms up in the air.
Free roller coaster ride for the dash display. Weeee.

macca_779
19-05-2008, 05:40 PM
My car in a 11.0/122mph pass does 80-204 in about 9.6s.



Macca
100 - 250kph taking 30s sounds like a distance roughly 1.5km as well. It would take at least 3km to get to maximum speed i think.

It's always intriguing/scary to think about the maths in these scenario's.

Oztrack Tuning
19-05-2008, 05:49 PM
300kph is 1000m in 12s and imagine if it took only 12s to stop it would still probably take 1000m to slow down.

SS Enforcer
19-05-2008, 05:55 PM
300kph is 1000m in 12s and imagine if it took only 12s to stop it would still probably take 1000m to slow down.

Thats what chutes are for Steve :thumbsup:


cheers