ATTN: VX clubsport owners

[Hammer]

Hello all, I am faced with a very difficuly dilema, my front styling on my vx SS 285rwkw sedan is the clubsport style made out of fibreglass and is starting to get crack lines, big chips in it... i thing is due to bad moulding from wheover put it on (i dont have the teardrop lights that the vx ss have)

Iv'e been to surfers ,parkwood HSV and been advised buy the hsv team that I need a build # and a chassis number before they can order it

my front end looks like this

Front bar (http://members.westnet.com.au/baldric/front.jpg)

so if anyone can help me by providng me their build #/ Chassis number i would be much appreciative as I would prefer the plastic one over the fibreglass one as it wont break anymore

Thanks,

[VZSS250]

I can't stanbd to look at an SS that has been defaced so violently. Please someone, cover it up.

[Hammer]

simple fact, the ss front bar looks so GAY and the teardrop lights are crap as well....

[Devil CV8]

simple fact, the ss front bar looks so GAY and the teardrop lights are crap as well....
That is your opinion, not mine and obviously not vzss350 either. its your thread and these differences have nothing to do with your question.

Back o/t:

No help from here.... Maybe someone will front up with a build number to allow fake HSV's to continue to appear.

[Hammer]

sorry forgot to mention, the engine is a clubsport engine, and pretty much everthign else on the car, just not "legitly hsv"

[Hammer]

No help from here.... Maybe someone will front up with a build number to allow fake HSV's to continue to appear.

mate i just want the front bar i have one on it now but it's fiberglass and bad moulding (probally fabtech) and i want a plastic one from holden so it doesnt crack it will just bend it it gets hit..... by something

[ultrablue]

your best bet is to cruze the second hand car lots and get the number off a car in the lot

[Beej]

sorry forgot to mention, the engine is a clubsport engine, and pretty much everthign else on the car, just not "legitly hsv"

What do you mean by "the engine is a clubsport engine"?? Has the engine actually been swapped with one from a clubsport, including HSV CAI, exhaust system and PCM? Or has it just been tuned up a bit like every other LS1 around here! :D

Cheers,

Beej

[spiv]

Mock ups certainly don't do the owners of genuine HSV's any favours, I fully support HSV in their efforts to protect the owners who pay up to buy the real deal. I bet a few mock ups getting around in fact have plently of "real" HSV parts, albeit stolen....... :mad:

[Hammer]

the engine is a genuine hsv clubsport engine from HSV have the reciept along with hsv MAF,cai all the other stuff with it got a custom 3" system all the way through goes from 3" headers which are 4 into 2 then into 1 pipe at the rear, all are 3" has been dynoed with 285rwkw

[Dickie Knee]

Just put calais front and rear bars on it.

[YIIR8]

the engine is a genuine hsv clubsport engine from HSV have the reciept along with hsv MAF,cai all the other stuff with it got a custom 3" system all the way through goes from 3" headers which are 4 into 2 then into 1 pipe at the rear, all are 3" has been dynoed with 285rwkw

Wow...with all that stuff, why didn't you just "buy one" to begin with??, could you tell me where you got that engine from please, would love 285rwkw stock!!!

[spiv]

Wow...with all that stuff, why didn't you just "buy one" to begin with??, could you tell me where you got that engine from please, would love 285rwkw stock!!!

Hot Damn it took me heads/cam/exhaust&maffless tune to get that type of power, "I just want one too......." :lol:

[Modena]

the engine is a genuine hsv clubsport engine from HSV have the reciept along with hsv MAF,cai all the other stuff with it got a custom 3" system all the way through goes from 3" headers which are 4 into 2 then into 1 pipe at the rear, all are 3" has been dynoed with 285rwkw
so you mean you have a Chevrolet LS1 crate motor, the same as everyone else around here...oh, but let's not forget the funky "Mobil 1" sticker on the oil cap :D

[markone2]

Just woddle on down to your nearest Motor Auctions..plenty to choose from ;) big numbers and little numbers.you'll also find the local smash shops have the odd one or two of these hanging around awaiting a few repairs..which is not expensive on plastic.

[dark]

There is one on ebay at:-

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29700&item=2488387658

[VooDoo]

the engine is a genuine hsv clubsport engine from HSV have the reciept along with hsv MAF,cai all the other stuff with it got a custom 3" system all the way through goes from 3" headers which are 4 into 2 then into 1 pipe at the rear, all are 3" has been dynoed with 285rwkw

I think someones having a lent of you mate. The "HSV" engine is no different to a SV8/SS/Stato engine. Its all in the tune.

if you really did have a 3" system you would be loosing lots of power. 3" is for Superchargers, Turbos etc not stock LS1's. There is no such thing as 3" headers anywere let alone your car. More likely Try-Y's with 1 5/8" primaries into a 3" collector (more likely 2.5"). Maybe thats what you were thinking of.

No stock engine has 285rwkw. Even cars with a nice cam/heads have been known to get less. 220rwkw is normal after an edit. 180rwkw pre-edit. 240rwkw is a "goodun" after a tune but rare. The "HSV Clubsport" tune is 285kw at the engine but in reality not that much better than any other LS1.

Before quoting figuires on a LS1 forum full of LS1 owners its a good idea to check your facts. Unfortunatly the info you have been told is incorrect. Please dont think we are having a go at you. Its not uncommon to be told things (even by dealers) that is totally wrong. If unsure just ask or use the search button. Plenty of guys here are happy to help answer even the hard questions.

[VX2VESS]

280 at the engine is more like it.

fiberglass bars suck

[ssvyredute]

the engine is a genuine hsv clubsport engine from HSV have the reciept along with hsv MAF,cai all the other stuff with it got a custom 3" system all the way through goes from 3" headers which are 4 into 2 then into 1 pipe at the rear, all are 3" has been dynoed with 285rwkw


HSV wont sell you a front bar but will sell you a clubsport engine with receipt. :confused:

[VX2VESS]

HSV wont sell you a front bar but will sell you a clubsport engine with receipt. :confused:

poor guy makes a few typeos and gets hammered ;) prob from a wreck. the only motors hsv have are C4bs, maybe some ls2s now :D the rest are holden factory and hsv don't replace them if faulty holden does.

still the R8 engine is interesting, rip out the SS motor and put in an new r8 motor which is exactly the same.

[M&Ms]

There is one on ebay at:-

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29700&item=2488387658


HAHA...thats car's a VT commodore with a VX kit and VY wheels...Nice hybrid :lol:

[bobg]

Actually with amber side turn repeaters it would appear to be a VT series 1 at that.

Not much else that give a clue to the model but the headlights are certainly pre VX.

regards

Bob G

[M&Ms]

Actually with amber side turn repeaters it would appear to be a VT series 1 at that.

Not much else that give a clue to the model but the headlights are certainly pre VX.

regards

Bob G


look at the left/rear shot to see the VT rear lights.

[MaDDoG]

Just buy the real thing and do us all a favour. By the time you did all that you could have bought the real thing......and have better resale later :)

[caphsv]

Just buy the real thing and do us all a favour. By the time you did all that you could have bought the real thing......and have better resale later :)

Took the words out of my mouth :D

[Blind0wl]

I can understand where hes coming from...I have the clubsport frontend...and no its not because I wanna be a HSV, it just looks a whole lot better in my own opinion...

When I recently looked at getting my fibreglass front re-moulded, due to cracks and bubbling, my panel beater reconmmended getting damaged original frontends...the ones which get damaged before shipping the cars. Respray and your done. Would pay to talk to a few of your local smash repair places to see if they have anything around.

[Tez82]

Yeah I have talked to this guy before. I think he was mislead when he bought the car, cause he was told that the engine was rebuilt cause of piston slap I think and that they put the R8 engine in their. But I tried telling him that it would have bullshit sales tatics, but yeah. Simple thing is that all Gen3 are the same just different tunes. I could have a R8 or GTS tune, but it doesn't mean its a HSV engine. Told him to get a edit done it to begin with and that would give him more power than what he has at the moment. There are heaps of d#$kheads out there trying to sell cars saying it has HSV engines etc, when they have just had them tuned :mad: . In regards to HSV front bar, there piss easy to get hold off (genuine), but I wouldn't put one on my VX SS cause every time I see a commodore with a HSV kit you think that its just a cheap Executive done up :) My girlfriend just bought the VX HSV R8 for $32,000 with only 85,000 kms still with new car warrenty so there not expensive anymore... She just paid out the rest of the lease on the car which its outright figure was 32k. So there are some good deals out there I think hehehehehehe

[OscarTheGrouch]

There is one on ebay at:-

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29700&item=2488387658

I bought one of these (from the same guy) - just picked it up from the couriers about an hour ago, actually.

I'm still trying to decide whether to fit it or not though (I'm having second thoughts)...

[Tez82]

I bought one of these (from the same guy) - just picked it up from the couriers about an hour ago, actually.

I'm still trying to decide whether to fit it or not though (I'm having second thoughts)...

Yeah the problem with fibreglass is that it will not forgive you if you knock it. Because the kits are low, you will hit it or scrap when just getting up and down your driveway. Once you have one on your car you learn to drive really carefully and slowly on all speed bumps, arrr the good old days when I had a VT kit hehehehe. :cool:

[Hammer]

okay thanks for the info i have learn from this so it must be 280kw @ fly ? i have a invoice sheet from hsv saying replaced motor (due to the previous owner whinging about oil consumption) they replaced it holden didnt have any in stock so hsv changed the engine out. and it has a exhaust, i actually measured the headers and they are 2.5" 4 pipes both sides whech then convert into 2 pipes (3" in circumfrence) run down both sides of the body then join into a 3" single to tailpipe.


PS: they changed the clutch as well to a ceramaic type as stated on the invoice sheet.

Also can somone shed me some light on what a "edit" does and where abouts i can get one done in SE queensland, and a approxamate cost cost if this ?

some wrecking yards for hsv front clubsport type plastic grills would be good too :)

Thanks

Sorry if i offended anyone...

[VT_SS_II]

Powertorque Engines in Brendale (Brisbane) does Ls1 edits. Look in the sponsors section of this site for their contact details.

[team illucid]

Mate I wouldnt apologise - you are entitled to an opinion as is everyone --- I myself went the route of finding a wrecked HSV and getting the engine/gearbox out of it ... I didnt want an HSV so I didnt get one - money is not the issue it is personal choice, as HSV sell a lifestyle/image solution - HSV parts are plentiful to get your hands on from wreckers (www.allpanelsandparts.com.au) - they have front bars so have a look there ... I personally dont see anything wrong with putting the kits on cars, as long as you dont put the badges on and pretend that it is an HSV ...

good luck

[VX2VESS]

Mate I wouldnt apologise - you are entitled to an opinion as is everyone --- I myself went the route of finding a wrecked HSV and getting the engine/gearbox out of it ... I didnt want an HSV so I didnt get one - money is not the issue it is personal choice, as HSV sell a lifestyle/image solution - HSV parts are plentiful to get your hands on from wreckers (www.allpanelsandparts.com.au) - they have front bars so have a look there ... I personally dont see anything wrong with putting the kits on cars, as long as you dont put the badges on and pretend that it is an HSV ...

good luck

no pricing online bugger.

check this ute, lost it into a pole or something.

http://www.allpanelsandparts.com.au/images/HSV/127-2791_IMG.JPG

[V8R]

the owner of that thing would be either a very very sore puppy, or more than likely not feeling any pain at all..

JM

[team illucid]

that ute is what my engine, gearbox computer etc came out of - put 5000KMs on it so far, and it runs sweet as a kitten

[VooDoo]

http://www.allpanelsandparts.com.au/images/HSV/127-2781_IMG.JPG

http://www.allpanelsandparts.com.au/images/NewArrivals/Item4.jpg

http://www.allpanelsandparts.com.au/images/NewArrivals/Item3.jpg
OUCH!!

[Hammer]

wow, some people need to learn how to drive to their limitations...

[vh-holden]

wow, some people need to learn how to drive to their limitations...

i'd say within their limitations...


i reckon the owner of the monaro is probably having the same feelings as the ute driver

[M&Ms]

check out www.wreckedexotics.com (http://www.wreckedexotics.com)

some pics over there will really wanna make u cry

[BLACK 346]

Actually with amber side turn repeaters it would appear to be a VT series 1 at that.

Not much else that give a clue to the model but the headlights are certainly pre VX.

regards

Bob G

You can also see the amber rear indicators as well,
indicating Series 1.

Sorry that was already posted

[VRIIClubby]

So if its a series one then no LS1, expensive mod to undertake, complete wiring harness etc etc...

I dont mind the odd HSV Replica, but cannot stand when there is the HSV badges all over it, that to me is crappy as hell,

HSV owners pay a premium for there cars, hence why Build#'s etc are requested! (most places)...

[Hammer]

i would never try to mimic a hsv i have a debadged vx ss apart from genIII badge above both side indicators

[markone2]

i would never try to mimic a hsv i have a debadged vx ss apart from genIII badge above both side indicators


I know of a couple of fine upstanding gents, who can be found perusing this forum that have benefited rather nicely at trade-in time by mimicking an HSV…
and good luck to them if the valuers are too damn lazy to lift a bonnet in search of the HSV tag…...imho

Don't sweat it guy's...... my lip's are sealed :D

[Hammer]

I know of a couple of fine upstanding gents, who can be found perusing this forum that have benefited rather nicely at trade-in time by mimicking an HSV…
and good luck to them if the valuers are too damn lazy to lift a bonnet in search of the HSV tag…...imho

Don't sweat it guy's...... my lip's are sealed :D

well if they do that they cant be true holden people as someone who respects holden would not mimic a hsv....

[VI11AN]

Im of the opinion that commodores with HSV kits are ok, its when they start sticking the damn HSV badges all over it, that it really annoys people.

[VooDoo]

I know of a couple of fine upstanding gents, who can be found perusing this forum that have benefited rather nicely at trade-in time by mimicking an HSV…
and good luck to them if the valuers are too damn lazy to lift a bonnet in search of the HSV tag…...imho

Don't sweat it guy's...... my lip's are sealed :D


Since when was i a fine upstanding gent :stick:

(Note: i didnt fit the kit, it was on the car when i bought it)

[Hammer]

did u take the hsv badging off ?

[Scud]

The front bar on this looks OK, thats if you wanted to put a stock bar on it..... :)

http://www.pickles.com.au/servlet/Auction/Item.jpg?id=450217047

[Hammer]

bloody hell.... what hit that thing a truck ? and i dont have teardrop lighst anyway i have vx clubsport lights . car looks pretty low, i rekon it would scrape a bit on speed bumps :D

[ED]

Youll have to look out for me one night out and about Hammer, Ill show you what a Power Torque tuned car sounds and goes like!! (Ive got a *cough cough* baby cam too of course)

[markone2]

Youll have to look out for me one night out and about Hammer, Ill show you what a Power Torque tuned car sounds and goes like!! (Ive got a *cough cough* baby cam too of course)


:lol: I'd advise you best rent and attach one Port a Potty to the rear of the Blue stead .......

[VooDoo]

Just bring him out to willowbank Eddie and ill show him what a lux-0-barge can do when angry :D

[Hammer]

id love to have a ride in ethier of your cars.... send me a pm when i can