Gotta love the QLD Police

[Tre-Cool]

Myself and a fellow forum member Sick SS were out on a casual drive around town tonight, i.e following speed limit etc.

I was following seeing as i don't know where im going, and i notice a car come out of a side street rather quickly, think nothing of it, as there was a dickhead driving around in an old falcon earlier before.

Then the moment we all say in our head "arrh Fluck" the disco lights are on, not knowing who was being stopped, I pulled over straight away, put the window down and waited for a few seconds until the cop's pulled up next to me.

So the convo goes somem like this.

Me: "Hey, howsa going, what can i do for ya?"
Cops: "Is your mate stopping?"
Me: "Dunno, does he have to?"
Cops: Yeah, we need you to come back to the station, follow us and well stop your mate."
Me: "No worries"
Now even at this stage I have NFI on what the hell for.

Steve (Sick SS) get's pulled over, same thing there i think.

So we follow the coppers to the police station and park up.

anyway to cut a long story short, we both have to do a Decibel test for our exhausts, and the coppers were pretty friendly, they were'nt on a power trip, and had a bit of chat while they the wrote the tickets out.

I asked them about radar detectors in qld seeing as i have one in the car. (not plugged in though, didnt mention it though.)

Now the best bit of all, we have till the 16th of next month to get back to them with results, and i leave on the 15th to head back home to w.a. :lol:

So if i return to Qld, I'll be a wanted man (so to speak). :booty:

http://www.vyssute.com/photo/albums/userpics/10001/defect.jpg

I noticed it says 90db. what is the Australian standard? I thought it was 92db.

[Fabio's CV8]

90 is the limit for our cars.
What did you get 96?

Just go find a stocky cat back! :lol:

[Delco]

Its great having a feral exhaust isnt it , yours would be one of the loudest stockies too

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[Tre-Cool]

90 is the limit for our cars.
What did you get 96?

Just go find a stocky cat back! :lol:

They didn't do a test. Just told us to go and get it done and bring back the results.

I suspect my car would probably be in the 100ish area.

It goes from extractors --cats --- twin 2 1/2 pipe with balance pipe --- straight through racing mufflers welded to Twin tips on both sides.

Not really loud, if you say compared it to a similar system on a 5 litre.

I'm not really that bothered if i have to do the exhaust anyway, as i was planning on doing it all from scratch, headers, cats etc. and making really quite this time round. and make it a sleeper again.

[Mongy]

That's the one thing I like about the VYII system with the big Daewoo cats right at the front, even with a full custom system it is not overly noisy. That might annoy some but it saves us getting the bluey like you did. They would have known you were going to fail otherwise they would not have bothered to pull you over, you might say you were a walk up start for them. You can bet your life they have been keeping an eye on you because at some stage you have caught their attention. :yup: It's not fair but that's how the system works, and has not changed in the 37 years I have had a licence.

[Tre-Cool]

I know we werent the first people they got last night, they said they had all ready handed out 6 notices.

I'm not worried about it, if i was staying it would have been a good excuse to get the exhaust done again anyway.

I don't think they had there eye on me or Sick SS, as we drove pass straight paased them when they were looking for kids out past there curfue and my car doesn't get out much.

[Mongy]

Curfew?????? That sounds like a good thing to me if they are out sending kids home. Too many stay out wandering the streets all night these days.

[Hubble80]

I reckon that if you are gonna go and get it done, go see some of the exhaust shops in town and ask to "borrow" an old stocky. Do the test at DOT, and rip er off again!! A full, they just give you too much time to get around things!!!!!

[Tre-Cool]

I reckon that if you are gonna go and get it done, go see some of the exhaust shops in town and ask to "borrow" an old stocky. Do the test at DOT, and rip er off again!! A full, they just give you too much time to get around things!!!!!

I cant chuck on a stocky exhaust even if i wanted too because the cat's are welded to the rest of the exhaust system. It's one whole peice from the cat's to the tips.

[Tre-Cool]

Forgot to mention, that depending on the cost of the test, i might just do it for shit's and giggles to see what the current system is rated at. Since it's been mentioned by Thunder from sureflow exhaust that he has tested stock clubsports that have failed.

Also, it does say 75% of max power. whose to say my car doent have a 3 grand rev limiter? just code it into the pcm. haha

[Hubble80]

If you can get away with it!!!

[SICK SS]

b@stards oh well i see if i can scam a legal db reading if not i stil hav the reso from my redback system i can led u my old 3inch system trecool that will pass :D

[Tre-Cool]

can always put my plates on a another stock green ute and use that.

Plenty of em in town. :lol:

[Delco]

can always put my plates on a another stock green ute and use that.

Plenty of em in town. :lol:

We could always do a exhaust noise tune , sure I could get a little bark out of it :D

[SSbaby]

Don't take your cat back off!

There was a thread about this not so long ago... ;)

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=25073

[Tre-Cool]

Don't take your cat back off!

There was a thread about this not so long ago... ;)

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=25073


oookay, after reading that thread i learnt what? :confused:

[SSbaby]

oookay, after reading that thread i learnt what? :confused:

Well I thought the steelo wool and chicken mesh trick was kind of what you were after, without incurring any great expense?

[Tre-Cool]

oh. no worries then.

But like i mentioned before, I dont need to do the test as im leaving qld anyway. and seeing has it's strictly for qld rta, it doesnt really effect me, unless i want to ever bring the car back. inwhich i wont, coz it's a long bloody drive :lol:

[ShanghaiVZ]

shit man! your keen to drive! :cool: But if ya a W.A. boy WTF did the cops still write you up? W.A. plates W.A. license, They think ya staying or something? :lol:

[VooDoo]

Im pretty sure the QLD cops can still defect the car and fine you regardless of where you are. You rego can be cancelled in your state for not complying with the QLD defect notice.

I guess we will find out soon how interstate defect notices really work. Personally i would risk it (or at the least id ring and ask)

[Tre-Cool]

It's a bit strange how the law works isn't it. It seems with issues like these, your guilty until you prove yourself (car) innocent. By paying to have a test done.

It's no skin off my nose at the end of the day as I was planning on changing the exhaust anyway, back into a quite exhaust to become a sleeper.

Becoz of the way I had the current system designed it now whacks under the body on bumps etc. And it has broken the welds were it was supported at times.

One of the problems with having a complete 1 peice exhaust system i suppose, plus the springs I have had on the car haven't helped either, I'm having to put some spacer's in the rear again.. after having all ready changed to some higher springs becoz it keeps dropping.

[Tre-Cool]

shit man! your keen to drive! :cool: But if ya a W.A. boy WTF did the cops still write you up? W.A. plates W.A. license, They think ya staying or something? :lol:

The local coppers were pretty friendly, I told em i was leaving next month anyway, but he said he'd right it out anyway, just to make sure.

I said sure, no worries. I'll frame it for when i get back home. :lol:

[bobg]

Im pretty sure the QLD cops can still defect the car and fine you regardless of where you are. You rego can be cancelled in your state for not complying with the QLD defect notice.

I guess we will find out soon how interstate defect notices really work. Personally i would risk it (or at the least id ring and ask)

In theory QLD DoT simply record your failure to get the notice cleared on the national vehicle registration database [NEVDIS] and if it remains uncleared after a set time the WA DPI send you a rego suspension or cancellation notice. IN THEORY!!!! Will be interested to see if it works as it is supposed to.

regards

Bob G

[Speedy Gonzales]

Dont the police practice RWC and defecting cars using new stockers?

Lucky you were civilised cause if a cop pulled me over for just tootling around minding my own business, Id be mighty pissed and wonder havent they got better things to do like catching serious criminals instead of following cars which have 5db higher than legal?

The only crim they can catch, the average motorist.

[VooDoo]

Heard a good one today from a mate of mine. Next time they try and defect you ask for their qualifications and experiance with cars, ADR's and engineering.

A mate of mine did this and explained he owns a garage and is qualified to test cars for compliance. He said that his qualifications exceeded the police officers and if the officer wanted to defect the car he could pay for it. He asked the officer for his name and which station he worked at as a civil case would be brought against the officer for wasting his time when he was clearly not an experiance machanic nor knew the ADR's as well as my mate. He was extreamely polite thoughout the conversation and wrote down the entire conversation as it happened.

Cop decided to not write the notice.

[Thunder]

In NSW the test is done at 500mm (instead of 525mm) and its at 75% of redline.

In our area the EPA sets up at the local Police station 2 days/month. The Police make you follow them back to the EPA and they check it for noise, ram pods, egr/pollution control modifications, and defect the car. Each defect carries a fine and it depends whether the Police or EPA issue the fine.

Noisy exhaust - Police $250 EPA (Undue noise) $200
Ram Pod - Police $75 EPA (undue noise) $200
Tampering with pollution fittings - EPA $300

We had one car that was 110db and the Police fined him $500 because it exceeded noise limit by more than 15db

On these 2 days, they average 50 cars per day. Not bad revenue raising! :mad: :bash:

[markone2]

Heard a good one today from a mate of mine. Next time they try and defect you ask for their qualifications and experiance with cars, ADR's and engineering.

A mate of mine did this and explained he owns a garage and is qualified to test cars for compliance. He said that his qualifications exceeded the police officers and if the officer wanted to defect the car he could pay for it. He asked the officer for his name and which station he worked at as a civil case would be brought against the officer for wasting his time when he was clearly not an experiance machanic nor knew the ADR's as well as my mate. He was extreamely polite thoughout the conversation and wrote down the entire conversation as it happened.

Cop decided to not write the notice.


Thankyou Mr voodoo :D ..I shall hence-forth carry one Queensland Roadworthy Licence in Glovebox of little red car.....

[Wazza]

In our area the EPA sets up at the local Police station 2 days/month. The Police make you follow them back to the EPA and they check it for noise, ram pods, egr/pollution control modifications, and defect the car. Each defect carries a fine and it depends whether the Police or EPA issue the fine.


Set up randomly or is there a set day/date/whatever that they do it? May have to make not to not take the VC out those days (seriously doubt it would pass no matter what the db limit for a VC is)

[Thunder]

Set up randomly or is there a set day/date/whatever that they do it? May have to make not to not take the VC out those days (seriously doubt it would pass no matter what the db limit for a VC is)

They set up randomly.

The VC is a 1980 model (pre- 1983) so you have 96db to play with. Each 3db is double the loudness.

[FatBoy]

One of my mates got defected down in Victoria (near Heathcote actually, we were down there for the Drags) for 17" billets on a Hilux dual cab ute. He didn't worry about it as the car is regoed in NSW but sure enough, when he went to pay his rego a few months later they wanted to know if he had the paperwork to say the defect had been cleared...

So i'd say they'll catch up with you... ;)

Cheers,
Paul...

[Roger]

But, how do Harleys get allowed on our roads - dead 'stock', they are horrendously loud.
Are bikes exempt ??

[V-Car]

But, how do Harleys get allowed on our roads - dead 'stock', they are horrendously loud.
Are bikes exempt ??

Nah, cops are too scared to pull them over! :lol:
:hide:

[debencha]

i think bike noise tests are done @ 5500 rpm (hence some have a flat spot at those rpm) as for a harley do they rev that hard ?they would have to be the worst sounding v twin out in my opinion..but each to there own.. tre cool i have the complete vu system in shed if you want to borrow it(calliope near gladstone)

[SSbaby]

Heard a good one today from a mate of mine. Next time they try and defect you ask for their qualifications and experiance with cars, ADR's and engineering.

A mate of mine did this and explained he owns a garage and is qualified to test cars for compliance. He said that his qualifications exceeded the police officers and if the officer wanted to defect the car he could pay for it. He asked the officer for his name and which station he worked at as a civil case would be brought against the officer for wasting his time when he was clearly not an experiance machanic nor knew the ADR's as well as my mate. He was extreamely polite thoughout the conversation and wrote down the entire conversation as it happened.

Cop decided to not write the notice.

Not disputing the legitimacy of your mate's defence, VooDoo, but it sounds like a simple test...

In NSW the test is done at 500mm (instead of 525mm) and its at 75% of redline.
So how would a person's qualifications in compliance help to throw out a civil case against a police officer especially if the readings show the dB levels exceed the limit and the equipment was calibrated and used in accordance with official procedure?

Or was the copper intimidated by your mate's story... that did the trick?

[Tre-Cool]

Bit of Update:

Went down to the local shell this arvo, the place that does the noise testing here and with the rev's held at 3900rpm a whole whopping 97.5-- 98db was recorded :rolleyes: . 4db over.

Good thing it was a freeby as no ticket was written for me, but looks like i have some minor modifications to be made before i go back again. ;)

I was surpised as i was expecting about a 103db or higher reading, considering the amount of restriction in the exhaust, i.e sfa.

My system consist's of genie try-y's, into standard opened cats, with a twin 2 1/2 inch pipes all the way past the diff into one Lukey racing muffler and tips welded to the ends on either side.

Go Figure.