S.A Highway VZ SS Cop Cars

[Tre-Cool]

Pinched from another site and uploaded to mine for you viewing pleasure.

Take note of the size of the mags.
http://www.vyssute.com/photo/albums/userpics/10001/sapolvzss1.jpg
http://www.vyssute.com/photo/albums/userpics/10001/sapolvzss2.jpg

17" bet they still get charged for 18's though. :rolleyes:

Still don't like the design of the new mags on the SS and Monaro's.

[Veeate]

17" bet they still get charged for 18's though. :rolleyes:

Still don't like the design of the new mags on the SS and Monaro's.

Yeah the 17" look awful. But i guess the cops dont care about looks...more interested in functionality. Are they 235's ?

[VeeTee346]

Crikey that's a big antenna. Police HQ on Pluto perhaps?

[sloone]

Yeah the 17" look awful. But i guess the cops dont care about looks...more interested in functionality. Are they 235's ?
And replacement price maybe?

[IIV8II]

Better for rougher outback roads (the aerial is a clue?)

[dpac]

17's r better ..... they may not look as good as the VY's 18's but they r probably more safer and r much cheaper rubber :bash:

[mmciau]

From my sources, the SAPOL Administration were very concerned at the fragility of the alloy wheels, especially if they clipped a kerb and from what I understand asked Holden if they would consider fitting the police steel wheels to the Highway cars.

Looks like the 17's carry just a little more side-wall tyres than an 18 would

mike

[Brendan24688]

lol look at the size of that ariel on tha back of that thing. It could control a space station :lol:

[Azza]

It reminds me of Dukes of Hazzard, with the huge floppy antenna's
"you get them Dukes boys Rosco, ya hear me" :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Tre-Cool]

it is a Highway patrol car, so it probably needs all the radio transmission distance as possible.

Just have to remember that before trying to outrun them across the border. :lol:

[uyell]

Why would the Police Dept buy the SS with 17" rims instead of the SV8 that already has the 17" rims, and would be about $9000 cheaper??
Seems like a waste of $9k on public servants..

[joeboss]

Why would the Police Dept buy the SS with 17" rims instead of the SV8 that already has the 17" rims, and would be about $9000 cheaper??
Seems like a waste of $9k on public servants..

The SV8 does not come with the police pack

[Tre-Cool]

Why would the Police Dept buy the SS with 17" rims instead of the SV8 that already has the 17" rims, and would be about $9000 cheaper??
Seems like a waste of $9k on public servants..

Remember though, for the price the Government pay for the SS and when they sell them, they make a Profit, I Don't think it really matter's.

At least now though, it will be easier to pick out which white cars where ex-pursuit's. Maybe be even cheaper because of the downgrade in wheel size. :cool:

[Mongy]

Remember though, for the price the Government pay for the SS and when they sell them, they make a Profit, I Don't think it really matter's.:cool:This is correct. A lot of Government departments have vehicles which really cost them nothing. If any of you have been to a government car auction you will know that what you pay there is more than they would have paid new with all the subsidies they get. The 17” wheels would have been a safety item, too small a wall height on 18”. You have to remember that at some stage most highway patrol cars will be used as “bush bashers” if somebody tries to go down a fire trail or something while being chased. I know if I did that I’d sooner have 17” rather than 18” :lol:

[chook]

17's r better ..... they may not look as good as the VY's 18's but they r probably more safer and r much cheaper rubber :bash:
I'll agree with the cheaper statement but safer ?? As pauline would say "please explain".

[Mongy]

I'll agree with the cheaper statement but safer ?? As pauline would say "please explain".I think you will find it is a wall height thing.

[uyell]

The SV8 does not come with the police pack

What on earth consitutes a Police Pack on top of the standard SS equipment for a Highway Patrol vehicle??
Is it better suspension than FE2?

I thought the Police Pack was applied to general duties Executive patrol cars etc?

Do you think that the wholesale cost of an SV8 and an SS would be the same for government customers? - There would have to be a difference..

...just wondering - its not really important

[Nawdy]

Remember though, for the price the Government pay for the SS and when they sell them, they make a Profit, I Don't think it really matter's.


Agree that purchasing cost are cheaper when various Gov't departments purchase cars, but I think this would be due to the fact that various government aren't required to pay government charges or rego/insurance. Others on here could probably comment further on this.

Government vehicles are generally taken out of service once certain usage criteria is met (km's/age/hours run ect), and most are sold at auction, and are therefore subject to normal market forces. These vehicles aren't generally sold off to try and make a profit - rather they are after the price the general public are willing to pay. All monies goes back into that large bucket of money commonly referred to as "consolidated revenue". Again, others may want to comment further on this.

When it comes down to it, what would you pay more for - an ex-police chaser, an ex-company car, or a privately owned car?

And yes they are big aerials - probably to help cover the large distances you find in country SA. Drive from Coober Pedy to the NT/SA border - you'll see what I mean.....

[rocks-crewman]

S.A police highway patrol use H.F radios for long-range comms. For H.F to be tx'ed/rx'ed with high probability and clarity, best to use an antenna that is at least 1/4 of the wavelength of the radio transmission. Surprised they are'nt using satellite telephones in this day and age. Better for us, if you are driving across S.A it makes very easy to spot them from looooong range.

[mmciau]

SA Govt Auctions usually 2 year or 40,000Km. The Commodore V8s have been showing 50-55 K KM + lately. Most general SAPOL Fleet cars are plus 50Km too cars

http://www.auctions.sa.gov.au/

see catalogue probably next catalogue available late friday PM for next Wednesday

And can confirm very poor radio reception from Marla Bore to the SA/NT Border

Mike

[Tre-Cool]

also how sweet would it be to take one of them car's fully worked engine wise and compete in the the Gumball 3000.

Police sticker's and all.

They've done it with american and canadian stickers.

[untamd]

I spoke to a Policeman once, and he said something like how the government only pays like $20,000 for a new SS Commodore because that is tax free, and i have seen them go for on auction after they have thrashed the hell out of them for around $33000.






Veasna

[Stretcher Bearer]

Soon somenone is going to ask about the Chips! They aren't touched. Here's what's constiutes a 9C1 in a VX (Holden didn't have the VY/VZ yet for me)

VX - 9C1 NATIONAL POLICE PACK :

CONTENTS :

BASE VEHICLES :
8VK69 , 8VK35 [ inc. “SS” ]
STANDARD FEATURES :

V6 AUTO SEDAN or WAGON .
V8 AUTO SEDAN or MANUAL SEDAN ONLY [ six speed ] .
C6O - AIR CONDITIONING .
C95 - DOME AND MAP READING LAMP .
U11 - POLICE CERTIFIED INSTRUMENT CLUSTER ( inc. Revised Speed Alert & Digital Speedo)
FE2 - SPORTS SUSPENSION .
AJ4 - DUAL AIR BAGS ( SRS )
JL9 - ANTILOCK BRAKE SYSTEM . ( ABS – VX Standard feature )
K69 – 3 KEY SET
G80 - SPIN RESISTANT DIFFERENTIAL . ( LSD )
V8P – MODIFIED GATE TRANSMISSION CONTROL ( AUTO )
QWH– 225/60/V15 BRIDGESTONE TURANZA ER30 [ Std LS1-V8 & V6. ]
* HEAVY DUTY BATTERY V6 & V8. ( Century - 520 CCA - Export Battery )
* QUICK RELEASE BATTERY TERMINALS .
* 120amp ALTERNATOR - V6 . [ Mitsuibishi ]
* 140amp ALTERNATOR – LS1-V8 . [ Mitsuibishi ]
* INTERIOR LIGHTS OUT FUNCTION . ( inc glove box and boot lamps )
* AUXILLARY WIRING HARNESS . ( inc positive and negative power feed , inline fuseable links , fuse box and mounting bracket etc . )
* SUMP GUARD FOR BOTH V6 and V8 ENGINES . ( sedan and wagon )
* DELETE WHEEL COVERS .
** 7” JJ X 15” STEEL WHEELS.
* ADD PLASTIC WHEEL CENTRE CAPS .
* ADD SILVER PAINTED WHEELS / 19mm BLACK WHEEL NUTS.
* ADD 25mm DIA. CABLE HOLE AND 25mm PLUG .
( LHS of instrument bulk head panel )
* DUAL HORNS .
* BRAKE PADS Front only BM 1099 & BM 962 Rear .



OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT :

* A31 - POWER WINDOWS . ( Queensland Police Requirement )
* K30 - CRUISE CONTROL .( New Zealand Police and Available for National Police users )
* FR1 – COUNTRY PACK SUSPENSION formerly V5W[ Sedan & Wagon ]

Just rember emergency vehicle get serviced very well at least every 5,000 depending on brake package- something on constant pursuit/braking can do the police pads in 5,000kms or less! So they are no a bad buy if they appear looked after- panel damage is one of the biggest faults- some guys just take car of them as if the car wasn't there's!!!

[PepeLePew]

Dual horns hey, well at least SOME SS buyers dont have to sound like poofs....

[Stretcher Bearer]

What's a poof SS buyer sound like?

[Stevotski]

I spoke to a Policeman once, and he said something like how the government only pays like $20,000 for a new SS Commodore because that is tax free, and i have seen them go for on auction after they have thrashed the hell out of them for around $33000.

Veasna

most government department buy most fords/holden/toyotas (not all models are on contract eg: HSV, Monaro, FPV) on contract with substantial discounts, although nothing like that.

[PepeLePew]

What's a poof SS buyer sound like?

Like me! Give me a mans car with a mans horn in it.

Please read that carefully and dont misinterpret.

Actually that raises the question....are the later VY and VZ horns improved?

[xshore]

i had a cop yesterday tryin to get through intersection, i thought i was out the way enough but his horn disagreed, it sounded much better than my horn. i try not to even use it ;-)

[james2]

S.A police highway patrol use H.F radios for long-range comms. For H.F to be tx'ed/rx'ed with high probability and clarity, best to use an antenna that is at least 1/4 of the wavelength of the radio transmission. Surprised they are'nt using satellite telephones in this day and age. Better for us, if you are driving across S.A it makes very easy to spot them from looooong range.Don't bet on that ,by the time you see that antenna they would have nailed you.as written by Nawdy try anywhere from the SA/NT border to Pt Agusta these units are worse than the Roo's . and most of them don't mind a bit of a quick sprint ,loverly bit of road but can play havoc on your bank a/c :D .

[Stretcher Bearer]

Like me! Give me a mans car with a mans horn in it.

Please read that carefully and dont misinterpret.

Actually that raises the question....are the later VY and VZ horns improved?

Nup!

Then again the simple plug is there for the second tone (low) horn so you end up with the Calais Horn...

[Bully]

I believe (at least in WA anyway) that all cop cars must undergo a FULL workshop inspection after any high speed pursuit. Was told this by service manager at a holden dealer once after I asked him why they had 3 cop cars in the workshop. Biggest worry is that the pads can shatter when braking from high speeds (ie 160 + km/h). They are also serviced very regularly so if you have an eye for detail you can get a good one cheap

[cutter bob]

if only you could get them in a manual :(

[COOKIE!]

I believe (at least in WA anyway) that all cop cars must undergo a FULL workshop inspection after any high speed pursuit. Was told this by service manager at a holden dealer once after I asked him why they had 3 cop cars in the workshop. Biggest worry is that the pads can shatter when braking from high speeds (ie 160 + km/h). They are also serviced very regularly so if you have an eye for detail you can get a good one cheap



Dont the ploice force have there own workshops for car services and repairs?

[Stretcher Bearer]

if only you could get them in a manual :(


The SS Highway patrol cars in Vic are manuals.

As for servicing- most emergency services outsource to the local factory dealers hence you seeing them there. On road servicing is done by contractors too.