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SS346
13-10-2004, 10:58 PM
A big thankyou to Sam for helping me out with my engine build, from the word go he helped me out alot, he supplied me with pistons, rod's and machining of the block, i called him a countless amount of times while i was building my engine, he was and is always willing to help.

My camshaft (the brains of the engine ;) ) was also a Sam custom grind.

I took the ss to wsid today in absolute street trim, all the seats, the factory airbox the filter absolutley everything was retained, my best run of the night was 12.75 @115mph 2.433 60ft :shock: oh and the track temp was a stunning 36 degrees relative humidity was 7.

The car was ice skating down the track 1st 2nd and 3rd, pathetic i say! but hey im very happy with the mph especially in that sort of scorching heat.

Once again Thankyou Sam.

LX346
14-10-2004, 06:21 AM
Spil the beans buddy, is it a stroker?
Whats the go with the motor?

Criso
14-10-2004, 08:10 AM
A big thankyou to Sam for helping me out with my engine build, from the word go he helped me out alot, he supplied me with pistons, rod's and machining of the block, i called him a countless amount of times while i was building my engine, he was and is always willing to help.

My camshaft (the brains of the engine ;) ) was also a Sam custom grind.

I took the ss to wsid today in absolute street trim, all the seats, the factory airbox the filter absolutley everything was retained, my best run of the night was 12.75 @115mph 2.433 60ft :shock: oh and the track temp was a stunning 36 degrees relative humidity was 7.

The car was ice skating down the track 1st 2nd and 3rd, pathetic i say! but hey im very happy with the mph especially in that sort of scorching heat.

Once again Thankyou Sam.You seem to be very happy SS346 did he build you a stroker?Have fun with your new engine...
Cheers Criso :D

SS346
14-10-2004, 06:53 PM
Spil the beans buddy, is it a stroker?
Whats the go with the motor?


Its your basic 346 cuber with forged rod's and pistons cam and heads, stroker was on the cards but the money wasn't.

SS346
14-10-2004, 06:55 PM
You seem to be very happy SS346 did he build you a stroker?Have fun with your new engine...
Cheers Criso :D


Criso, i'm extreamly happy thats for sure! Sam never built my engine, he supplied the parts and i put it together, just a lil old 346. :D

LX346
14-10-2004, 07:49 PM
So dont leave us waiting in suspense.
What sorta cam and head work?
Standard manifold?

HP/TQ?

SS346
14-10-2004, 09:29 PM
So dont leave us waiting in suspense.
What sorta cam and head work?
Standard manifold?

HP/TQ?

Camshaft is a 242 heads are patriot ls6, stock intake, stock airbox, k&n filter

385rwhp 800+nm torque :D

bigjoe
14-10-2004, 09:52 PM
Camshaft is a 242 heads are patriot ls6, stock intake, stock airbox, k&n filter

385rwhp 800+nm torque :D

I hope that you changed those Patriot springs and made sure that all the valve seats are o.k.

I would hate for that help that sam provided go to waste.

Joe

Plan B
14-10-2004, 09:57 PM
I hope that you changed those Patriot springs and made sure that all the valve seats are o.k.

I would hate for that help that sam provided go to waste.

Joe

Now that is good advice.... :)

What made you choose Patriot Girch? :confused:

SS346
14-10-2004, 10:03 PM
I hope that you changed those Patriot springs and made sure that all the valve seats are o.k.

I would hate for that help that sam provided go to waste.

Joe


Nope same spring's, for now. ;)

SS346
14-10-2004, 10:16 PM
Now that is good advice.... :)

What made you choose Patriot Girch? :confused:

Well they are one of very few heads that have awsome flow figures where it's important between .100-.400 lift, i was not worried about the 304cfm @.600 ;) Sam was going to port some heads for me but when i told him about the patriot's for a little over 2k outright he said "grab em".

BTW, Pete, Joe im a man of principles, im sure you both know that, especially Joe, i never would of bought these heads if it wern't for the principle.

Girch.

Plan B
14-10-2004, 10:38 PM
BTW, Pete, Joe im a man of principles, im sure you both know that, especially Joe, i never would of bought these heads if it wern't for the principle.

Girch.

Come on.... Joe's not the "Principle."... After what Joe has been through, I reckon He's the "Head Master!" :lol: :)

What ever... you have got in your set-up.... That MPH down the strip is really getting there for your heavy beast!

Well done! :)

SS346
14-10-2004, 10:45 PM
I reckon He's the "Head Master!" :lol: :)

lol! poor Joe


What ever... you have got in your set-up.... That MPH down the strip is really getting there for your heavy beast!

Well done! :)

Thanks,,,,, for your kind words Peter. :)

bigjoe
14-10-2004, 11:01 PM
lol! poor Joe




nks,,,,, for your kind words Peter. :)Th

Yes poor me, I have had massive problems ( Like broken valve, smashed piston and cracked block )from a set of Patriot heads. All I was trying to do was give you some advice from someone that had problems. But if you dont wont feed back then so be it. Check the LS1tech Forum in the U.S theirs Hundreds of very pissed off customers. :mad:
But when you do and you will i will be laughing very hard and saying "TOLD YOU SO".
:booty: :box:

Plan B
14-10-2004, 11:02 PM
Errr, you may have taken that the wrong way SS346... :) Joe's not poor and Joe is the Head Master!.... You should see his new stuff! You'd melt.... :drool: :bow:

vxchev
14-10-2004, 11:57 PM
Th

Yes poor me, I have had massive problems ( Like broken valve, smashed piston and cracked block )from a set of Patriot heads. All I was trying to do was give you some advice from someone that had problems. But if you dont wont feed back then so be it. Check the LS1tech Forum in the U.S theirs Hundreds of very pissed off customers. :mad:
But when you do and you will i will be laughing very hard and saying "TOLD YOU SO".
:booty: :box:


If you check a thread over at LS1TECH.com (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216267&page=2&pp=10&highlight=Patriot) there is concern about the quality control of the heads by one of the sponsors when the completed heads leave PP. But there has been no breakages of the LS1 Dual Gold Valve springs reported.

Les

bigjoe
15-10-2004, 03:57 PM
If you check a thread over at LS1TECH.com (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216267&page=2&pp=10&highlight=Patriot) there is concern about the quality control of the heads by one of the sponsors when the completed heads leave PP. But there has been no breakages of the LS1 Dual Gold Valve springs reported.

Les

Les

The main Problem with the Gold PP Springs is that they loose a substancial amount of pressure. The other main concern which has taken out quite a number of engines has been the valve seat dropping out. :bash:

I was a fan of PP, until it took my engine out. But hey you can only try to warn people so they dont go and slice their wrists when it happens.

SS346
15-10-2004, 06:20 PM
no peter i did not take it the wrong way :) i understand about the Headmaster thingy.

i know all about Joe's run in with another human i know of, i will leave it there and say no more, im sure Joe and you know what im on about. :)

SS346
15-10-2004, 06:23 PM
Th

Yes poor me, I have had massive problems ( Like broken valve, smashed piston and cracked block )from a set of Patriot heads. All I was trying to do was give you some advice from someone that had problems. But if you dont wont feed back then so be it. Check the LS1tech Forum in the U.S theirs Hundreds of very pissed off customers. :mad:
But when you do and you will i will be laughing very hard and saying "TOLD YOU SO".
:booty: :box:


Thanls Joe... for the advice, i did understand you the first time in an earlier post, trust me i did :) , well if i blow it up, oh well time for an improvement i guess. ;)

Criso
15-10-2004, 08:58 PM
lol! poor Joe
Joe is not poor he owns a whole chain of hamburger shops... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry for letting the cat out the bag Joe :lol: :lol:

Space Pope
15-10-2004, 09:57 PM
Early problem with Patriot heads surrounded the valve seats. Super-Mega-fugly blowouts from some using these in the states. I believe the quality has improved but I wouldn't be rushing out to buy a set.

AFR are doing heads that get a good rap if people are hell bent on buying US sourced heads but to be honest we have the best right here in 'Oz'

Nathan Higgins and Rams Heads both do fantastic work. Great flow, great combustion chamber work and good air speed through the runners.

Also , I was able to get a set of hand matched double springs from Higgins that have been fantastic. I had Crane springs prior and they softened up pretty quick. I blamed the ramp rate on the cam along with the the 1.8:1 ratio rockers for the 'soft on' my Crane springs had. Pressures at the seat and over the nose with the doubles have suited the kind of cams I've been using to date...no float ,no dramas.

Fabio's CV8
15-10-2004, 11:54 PM
Huge mile bloke. Great work! :)

SS346
18-10-2004, 01:35 PM
Joe is not poor he owns a whole chain of hamburger shops... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry for letting the cat out the bag Joe :lol: :lol:


When i said poor i didnt mean that he had no money, i meant poor bloke as in his engine didnt work out for him and he had to go through all the hassle of getting it rebuilt. :)

Girch.

Criso
18-10-2004, 02:08 PM
When i said poor i didnt mean that he had no money, i meant poor bloke as in his engine didnt work out for him and he had to go through all the hassle of getting it rebuilt. :)

Girch.
Don't worry Girch i did not mean anything by that comment it was ment for Hamburger... :lol: He knows who i mean :lol: :lol:

SS346
18-10-2004, 06:08 PM
Huge mile bloke. Great work! :)


Thanks mate, when the weather settles i'll be back out there to have another go, hopefully the mph will rise with the cooler temps, when the mph is at its peak thats when the slicks go on. :evil:

SS346
18-10-2004, 06:10 PM
Don't worry Girch i did not mean anything by that comment it was ment for Hamburger... :lol: He knows who i mean :lol: :lol:


No prob's Criso. :)

Girch.