VR HSV GTS 215i

[HSVGTS]

Can anyone tell me what the 215i produces at the rear wheels in kw's and hp.

Thanks........regards

[Brendan24688]

i would imagine around 161 rwkw. Thats only with 25% power lost through tranny.

[HSVGTS]

Thanks, brendan24688 much appreciated..........regards

[Ryzz]

Can anyone tell me what the 215i produces at the rear wheels in kw's and hp.

Thanks........regards
My 215 made 161rwkw stock. Manual 6 speed

[HSVGTS]

Does anyone know how the 215i compairs to the VT I HSV GTS 220i in rwkw or hp ??

Or does anyone know what is different between the two motors.

............regards

[team illucid]

Got this from HSV

VT GTS 220i:
Engine : 5.7-Litre. V8 See Also:

Transmission : 6-speed manual (standard)
4-speed automatic (optional)
Power : 220kW at 4,800rpm
Torque : 475Nm at 3,600rpm

VR GTS 215i
Engine: 5737 cc V8
Power: 215 kW @ 4800 rpm (288 hp)
Torque: 475 Nm @ 3600 rpm (350.5 ft/lb)

Fairly even, though from what I have heard the VT block is a lot stronger than any generation before it. Not sure if that is true, but I have been told it from a few sources ... sorry I cant be of more help

[georgec]

Does anyone know how the 215i compairs to the VT I HSV GTS 220i in rwkw or hp ??

Or does anyone know what is different between the two motors.

............regards

You should be able to easily blow away a VT1 GTS 220i because the VTs weigh a lot more than the VR.

[Gambelli]

You should be able to easily blow away a VT1 GTS 220i because the VTs weigh a lot more than the VR.

That sound correct in theory, but I don't beleive, back in the day for both cars, that this was the case in reality. I beleive that both are very heavy vehicles, I think even the VR's were heavier than any of the GENIII vehicles.

I do know that at least from Motor's perspective, the VTI GTS was the fastest HSV/Holden ever at the time with a top speed of 252kph, I think 0-100, both of those vehicles were around the 6.2-6.6 sec bracket depending on day, driver, and testing criteria.

I think the VT I GTS is a pretty damned good overall package now though given they go for around 30k

[Ryzz]

That sound correct in theory, but I don't beleive, back in the day for both cars, that this was the case in reality. I beleive that both are very heavy vehicles, I think even the VR's were heavier than any of the GENIII vehicles.

VR GTS 215i: 1600Kg
VS GTS 215i: 1648Kg
VT GTS 220i: 1740Kg
VT GTS Gen3: 1723Kg

Above information was found at Carsales Research Site. Then Gen3 GTS was lighter than the VT GTS by 17Kg. However the VR/VS GTS was is lighter than the Gen3 Cars.

The thing that a lot of people dont realise about these old Strokers is that they make 400nm @ Idle (400nm being what the 185i 5Ltr Clubbys made Peak!). They then peak out at 475Nm @ 3600Rpm.

So you have a CRAP load of Torque from the word go. This is very different from the LS1's as they do not have near as much torque (stock) this low!!!

[HSVGTS]

Thanks guy's for all the info.........

I was also told that the VT series V8 came with a roller cam, does anyone know if the VR 215i has a roller cam to ?

Regards..........

[HRT Stroker]

No roller cam for the pre VT cars.........

[bobg]

So you have a CRAP load of Torque from the word go. This is very different from the LS1's as they do not have near as much torque (stock) this low!!!
AMEN!!!!!!!

Nor up high.

Mine puts out over 650Nm from 3400 to 4500 RPM and over 500Nm between 2000 and 5800 RPM. Really runs out of breath at 6000 RPM though.


Regards

Bob G

[Ryzz]

AMEN!!!!!!!

Nor up high.

Mine puts out over 650Nm from 3400 to 4500 RPM and over 500Nm between 2000 and 5800 RPM. Really runs out of breath at 6000 RPM though.


Regards

Bob G
I want your car!!!! Tell me how to do that to my stroker!!! :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

[bobg]

VT1 Block [20 thou oversize bore]
Harrop Stroker Crank
11:1 compression
shot peened A9X rods
mild 220,220 x 1.6" lift cam
good [but not Nathan Higgins] head job
Starr 90mm manifold/throttle body
Delphi 90 mm MAF
ceramic coated tri Y pipes into twin 2.5" stainless steel system with opened cats
100 mm CAI with pod filter and combined oil catch tank
everything balanced, blueprinted and set up exactly [excellent engine builder]
ChipTorque tune
T56 tranny
VXII tailshaft and diff

Under bonnet shot
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL330/1749213/3363733/59952438.jpg

F1 Dyno chart run in 4th gear [with 3.46 diff 160 km/h = 4800 RPM]

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL330/1749213/3363733/74688718.jpg

F1 chart converted to engine output values

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL330/1749213/3363733/74688723.jpg

[fourstar82]

I want your car!!! :burnout: :drool: :bow:

[Ryzz]

VT1 Block [20 thou oversize bore]
Harrop Stroker Crank
11:1 compression
shot peened A9X rods
mild 220,220 x 1.6" lift cam
good [but not Nathan Higgins] head job
Starr 90mm manifold/throttle body
Delphi 90 mm MAF
ceramic coated tri Y pipes into twin 2.5" stainless steel system with opened cats
100 mm CAI with pod filter and combined oil catch tank
everything balanced, blueprinted and set up exactly [excellent engine builder]
ChipTorque tune
T56 tranny
VXII tailshaft and diff
I couldnt tempt you with a swap for a really good VS GTS now could i :stick:

[V82xist]

VT1 Block [20 thou oversize bore]
Harrop Stroker Crank
11:1 compression
shot peened A9X rods
mild 220,220 x 1.6" lift cam
good [but not Nathan Higgins] head job
Starr 90mm manifold/throttle body
Delphi 90 mm MAF
ceramic coated tri Y pipes into twin 2.5" stainless steel system with opened cats
100 mm CAI with pod filter and combined oil catch tank
everything balanced, blueprinted and set up exactly [excellent engine builder]
ChipTorque tune
T56 tranny
VXII tailshaft and diff



Could I ask roughly how many $$ did that all set you back?

[bobg]

Could I ask roughly how many $$ did that all set you back?
Including all the little bits not mentioned such as billet roller rockers [$790] US floating gudgeon pistons [$1450] new lifters [$700] new pushrods to suit the new deck height [$350] steel flywheel & clutch kit, gaskets, trueing block, line boring, engine dyno, etc, etc ,etc there was no change out of $20,000 and then some more [but don't tell the missus that!!!!!!!!!]

Also, I already had some of the bits such as the extractors, Starr manifold and 90mm MAF and was able to sourch quite a bit of the other stuff at good prices [contacts in the business ;-)]

Regards

Bob G

[Wezza]

Maybe you want to buy a really good VS GTS Supercharged & Intercooled? :D

[Ryzz]

Maybe you want to buy a really good VS GTS Supercharged & Intercooled? :D
This thread is worthless without pics!!!

[bobg]

This thread is worthless without pics!!!
Hey Matey!!! I posted PICS!!! If you want some more stimulating/TITulating ones let me know but they will have to be via PM 'cause they will not meet board rules :D :D

Regards

Bob G