Chrysler's New 6.1L 315kW Hemi Muscle

[TriShield]

Chrysler 300 SRT-8

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/chrysler/srt8/images/1.jpg

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Dodge Magnum SRT-8

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/la_show/magnumsrt8/images/SRTMagnum_F78.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/la_show/magnumsrt8/images/SRTMagnum_Profile.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/la_show/magnumsrt8/images/SRTMagnum_R34.jpg

All for under $51,000 AUD when they debut in the US. :eek: Both would be HSV/FPV level cars.

[TriShield]

And here's the new Dodge Charger R/T (5.7L Hemi - 250kW)

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/1.jpg http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_002.jpg http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_003.jpg http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_004.jpg
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It's the same type of car as the Commodore SS or Falcon XR8, and a tuned SRT-8 version will be coming later. The Hemi starts at $38,000 AUD here. Finally, RWD is coming alive in the US. :D

[Danv8]

The Dodge Charger R/T looks aweful.

[TriShield]

The Dodge Charger R/T looks aweful.

The only way they could make it stand out more is if they offered it in that 1970s Hot Pink color with Hemi stripes.

It didn't turn out nearly as sexy as the concept they had, but it's still more exciting than the disposable Japanese cars and huge SUVs polluting our roads. :o

[MTC]

Vomit that looks awful :eek:

[SSbaby]

I reckon it looks tough! Not sleek in the traditional sense but very TOUGH! I like it.

What's got a 500bhp 500ci V10 and does 0-100mph in 12s? Click here (http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101531).

[chops]

I like the 300, but not the Charger.
The Magnum wagon looks tough - the wife would love that!

[group 3]

Vomit that looks awful :eek:

What he said....

[Nobby]

None of those cars could be much uglier.

[SSbaby]

None of those cars could be much uglier.

That comment coming from an 'AU' driver? :stick: :D

[Padina]

That comment coming from an 'AU' driver? :stick: :D


What he said... lol ;) the AU and the KA are the ugliest cars EVER made! :booty: :cool: :D

[JBonDSS]

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_008.jpg

Plenty on room in this engine bay - I hope the spark plugs a centre mount in the heads under lose covers :)

[SSbaby]

[IMG]
Plenty on room in this engine bay - I hope the spark plugs a centre mount in the heads under lose covers :)

There's two in each cyl, i believe.

[EvillBill]

I saw the 300 on a top gear ep. It was compared against the Vauxhall Munro and a Jag S. While the Munro go the nod @ 2:1, the 300 copped a bit of flak for being heavy, soft and ugly. The fact that the trac-control ruined any fun was also a point of contention. Be interesting to see what they are like in the flesh though, and I can't in all honesty feel that bad about another large cap V8 RWD car being available.


Actually looks like this may have inspired it... ;)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075809/

[JohnS]

Good news about the 425hp hemi because GM is very likely to respond by upping the hp in the LS2.

BTW techically this engine does not have hemi heads but that's no obstacle for the PR people.

It will be nice to see Chrysler back in the Australian market. I like the looks of the 300C but it is built on the old w210 E class MB platform which MB stopped using two years ago (don't know when it came into service, 8 years ago?)and will be pretty out of date by the time Chrysler hits the Australian market and the VE is released. It will also be interesting to see how the build quality is judged in the australian market.

[Danv8]

What he said... lol ;) the AU and the KA are the ugliest cars EVER made! :booty: :cool: :D

Far from it real early Citroens beats them hands down in the ugly department.

[TriShield]

the 300 copped a bit of flak for being heavy, soft and ugly.

They were smitten by the 300's styling, it took flack for handling and braking both of which aren't bad at all.

[Malcolmsp]

Dodge need to hang, draw, quarter, emasculate then shoot the guy who is designing front ends for them.

cheers
Mal

[TriShield]

the 300C but it is built on the old w210 E class MB platform

Actually it's not. It's built on the LX platform, which is 100% US engineered. Some of the bits were inspried by the previous E-Class but it doesn't share any parts from it. It does use some Mercedes electronics and interior pieces. The quality is the same as any new Holden or Ford I sat in while in Australia.

[SSbaby]

Dodge need to hang, draw, quarter, emasculate then shoot the guy who is designing front ends for them.

cheers
Mal

I think the design was inspired by the 1960s era (?), Chrysler 300C.

[crYnOid]

Only 6.1L? pfffft.... 7L is much much better :D :cool:

LS7 engine


The all-new LS7 of the ’06 Z06 reintroduces the 427-cubic-inch engine to the Corvette lineup. Unlike the previous 427 engine, which was a big-block design, the new 7.0-liter LS7 is a small-block V-8 – the largest-displacement small-block ever produced by GM and a tribute to its 50 years as a performance icon.

With 500 horsepower and 475 lb.-ft. of torque, it also is the most powerful passenger car engine ever produced by Chevrolet and GM. The LS7 is easily identified under the hood by red engine covers with black lettering.

The LS7 shares the same basic Gen IV V-8 architecture as the Corvette’s 6.0-liter LS2, but the LS7 uses a different cylinder block casting with pressed-in steel cylinder liners to accommodate the engine’s wide, 104.8-mm-wide cylinder bores; the LS2 has 101.6-mm bores. And when compared to the LS2, the LS7 also has a different front cover, oil pan, exhaust manifolds and cylinder heads.

Internally, the LS7’s reciprocating components make use of racing-derived lightweight technology, including titanium connecting rods and intake valves, to help boost horsepower and rpm capability. The rpm fuel shut-off limit is 7000 rpm.

The LS7’s specifications include:
· Unique cylinder block casting with large, 104.8-mm bores and pressed-in cylinder liners
· Forged steel main bearing caps
· Forged steel crankshaft
· Titanium connecting rods with 101.6-mm stroke
· Forged aluminum flat-top pistons
· 11.0:1 compression
· Dry-sump oiling system
· Camshaft with .591-inch lift
· Racing-derived CNC-ported aluminum cylinder heads with titanium intake valves and sodium-filled exhaust valves
· Titanium pushrods and valve springs
· Low-restriction air intake system
· Hydroformed exhaust headers with unique “quad flow” collector flanges.


“In many ways, the LS7 is a racing engine in a street car,” said Dave Muscaro, assistant chief engineer of small-block V-8 for passenger cars. “We’ve taken much of what we’ve learned over the years from the 7.0-liter C5-R racing program and instilled it here. There really has been nothing else like it offered in a GM production vehicle.”

One of the clearest examples of the LS7’s race-bred technology is its use of titanium connecting rods. They weigh just 480 grams apiece, almost 30 percent less than the rods in the LS2 V-8. Besides being lightweight, which enhances high-rpm performance and rpm range, titanium makes the rods extremely durable.

The LS7’s CNC-ported aluminum cylinder heads are all-new and designed to meet the high airflow demands of the engine’s 7.0-liter displacement, as it ingests approximately 100 cubic feet more air per minute than the Corvette’s 6.0-liter LS2 V-8 – an 18-percent increase in airflow. Consequently, a hydraulic roller camshaft with .591/.591-inch valve lift is used to allow plenty of air to circulate in and out of the engine.

To ensure optimal, uninterrupted airflow, the LS7’s heads have straight, tunnel-like intake runners. Very large by production-vehicle standards – even racing standards – they are designed to maintain fast airflow velocity, providing excellent torque at low rpm and exhilarating horsepower at high rpm. The heads feature 70-cc combustion chambers which are fed by huge, 56-mm-diameter titanium intake valves. The lightweight titanium valves weigh 21grams less than the stainless steel valves used in the LS2, despite the valve head having 22 percent more area. They are complemented by 41-mm sodium-filled exhaust valves, vs. 39.4-mm valves in the LS2. To accommodate the large valve face diameters, the heads’ valve seats are siamesed; and, taken from experience with the engines of C5-R racecars, the LS7’s valve angles are held at 12 degrees – versus 15 degrees for the LS2 – to enhance airflow through the ports.

All LS7 engines are assembled by hand at GM Powertrain’s new Performance Build Center in Wixom , Mich. The exacting standards to which they are built include deck-plate honing of the cylinders – a procedure normally associated with the building of racing engines and almost unheard of in a production-vehicle engine.


Dry sump oiling system
The LS7 has a dry-sump oiling system designed to keep the engine fully lubricated during the high cornering loads the Corvette Z06 is capable of producing. An engine compartment-mounted 8-quart reservoir delivers oil at a constant pressure to a conventional-style oil pump pick-up at the bottom of the engine. The pressurized oil feed keeps the oil pick-up continually immersed in oil at cornering loads exceeding 1 g.

Oil circulates through the engine and down to the oil pan, where it is sent back to the reservoir via a scavenge pump. The large-capacity reservoir, combined with a high efficiency air-to-oil cooler, provides necessary engine oil cooling under the demands of the engine’s power output. With the dry-sump system, oil is added to the engine via the reservoir tank – which includes the oil level dipstick.

The LS7’s dry-sump system was developed and tested on racetracks in the United States and Europe , including Germany ’s famed Nürburgring. And while common in racing cars, the Corvette Z06 is one of just a handful of production vehicles – and the only production Corvette – to ever incorporate such a high-performance oiling system.

[myles]

The dodge front-end is an absolute eyesore.

Looks like an oven. :lol: Like the rest of it though.

[TriShield]

Is Chrysler going to sell Dodge in Australia? I've read DCX intends to make Dodge a global brand.

[Phido]

The 300C has already been slated for Aussie sales.. Charger most likely as well..

[SSbaby]

Small block and at 7L. :D

The million dollar question is ... how much does the LS7 weigh? :bounce:

[JohnS]

Actually it's not. It's built on the LX platform, which is 100% US engineered. Some of the bits were inspried by the previous E-Class but it doesn't share any parts from it. It does use some Mercedes electronics and interior pieces. The quality is the same as any new Holden or Ford I sat in while in Australia.

Thanks for the clarrification TriShield.

I keep reading that the build quality of US cars has improved significantly in recent years and they rate reasonably well in the JD Power and similar surveys when compared to European cars.

[TriShield]

I keep reading that the build quality of US cars has improved significantly in recent years and they rate reasonably well in the JD Power and similar surveys when compared to European cars.

It's true, they were churning out some appalling cars here during the 90s. The old 90s Chrysler models still being sold seem like Daewoos compared to these new Chrysler LX cars. :o

[cthulu]

Why do american's insist on making damn fugly cars these days

[Red CV8 R]

They are all pretty ugly IMO but will sell in the US I think. Alot of US customers like this type of styling. Pity as mentioned the charger doesnt look like the concept, that was awesome! The specs look great to, so that is a large positive. V8 RWD sedans, In reality it is all good stuff for our American counterparts! :cool:

[JohnS]

Why do american's insist on making damn fugly cars these days

Why do you single out americans? The europeans have some pretty old looking BMWs and Renaults, the Aussies have the AU Falcon, the Japanese seem to be playing it safe by making most of their cars look like domestic applicances.

[SSbaby]

Let's not forget, the 300C is a roaring success in the States. People have voted with their feet!!! It looks like a miniture Bentley from some pictures... but it might be better looking in the flesh than in the pics.

I'd take one over a VY. :hide: :lol:

[TriShield]

These new Chryslers have been extremely popular since they debuted last Spring, and they're the only American cars that sell without huge incentives tacked on.

I hate to say it, but the more I look at the Charger the more it grows on me. I'd like to see it wearing some of the classic Mopar colors like Plum Crazy, shame they won't offer them for it.

[V82xist]

I think the most ugly cars at the moment are Toyota/Lexus. They are absolute crap ugly. I drive Camrys at work and they are extremely average to steer also...imo

[Merlin]

I think the most ugly cars at the moment are Toyota/Lexus. They are absolute crap ugly.

what is with the trend of hatchbacks looking like small mini vans eg corolla and jazz ect.

[heavychevy]

Is Chrysler going to sell Dodge in Australia? I've read DCX intends to make Dodge a global brand.

Dodge, as in the Magnum will not be making our shores in the near future. So I have been told by local dealers, but hey... they cant even give me accurate pricing or delivery on the 300c. The Magnum would be a winnner if released here, but all things considered they have little presence in dealerships and support at this point in time.

[TriShield]

Dodge, as in the Magnum will not be making our shores in the near future. So I have been told by local dealers, but hey... they cant even give me accurate pricing or delivery on the 300c. The Magnum would be a winnner if released here, but all things considered they have little presence in dealerships and support at this point in time.

That's a shame. The 300 and Magnum are fine cars. The Magnum is a bit more interesting than the somewhat stuffy Ford and Holden wagons you guys have running around there.

[JohnS]

The Magnum is a bit more interesting than the somewhat stuffy Ford and Holden wagons you guys have running around there.

Yep the 300C and the Magnum would have to be the cream of the crop over there... I just had a look at the new Impala SS, 5.3L FWD and rather bland. The Zeta platform should provide an excellent base but i hope GM USA can get it's act together looks wise.

The new corvette and the saturn sky (but i believe the body was mostly designed in europe) are good signs.

[TriShield]

The new corvette and the saturn sky (but i believe the body was mostly designed in europe) are good signs.

The Sky was actually styled in the US for Opel in Europe, it's 100% American. The reskinned, V8 Chevrolets are truly horrible though. I'd much rather have a new Charger (for probably less) than a FWD V8 Chevrolet.

[TriShield]

Real pictures of the Magnum R/T.

http://carad.ebayimg.com/i17/01/a/02/0e/89/73_4.JPG

http://carad.ebayimg.com/i1/02/a/02/10/4f/ce_4.JPG

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http://carad.ebayimg.com/i5/02/a/02/0e/c9/59_4.JPG

[TriShield]

I may have saved the Charger.

http://www.ot2.cupofnoodles.com/trishield/blackcharger.jpg

Still ugly and fast, just like the originals. :o

[Drizt]

hmmm that charger is truely aweful... what have they done to the name ..

o well..

the wagon looks alright if you are into that sort of thing... bit gangster-ish though...

[JazzaT]

personally, i love the looks of the new charger. can't see what all the fuss is about, i reckon it's better looking then the concept even! better looking than many of GM's cars, and as has been said, i'd take it over a VY, looks wise.

[ls1 VN]

The wagon could be made to look awesome. Airbags, 20's etc. The other two :bash: Surely they could have done better than those. :eek:

[JohnS]

The Sky was actually styled in the US for Opel in Europe, it's 100% American.

It's not 100% American, most if not all of the interior and exterior was designed in the UK as a Vauxhall Lightning.

From cardesignnews.com

"The VX Lightning is based on the same platform used for the Pontiac Solstice concept that was shown at the 2002 North American International Auto Show in Detroit.

The Vauxhall Lightning concept was a joint project between the GM North America (GMNA) Advanced Design Studio in England and the Opel/Vauxhall Design Center in Rüsselsheim, Germany. The programme was initiated by Wayne Cherry, vice president, General Motors Design, and carried out under the overall direction of Anne Asensio, Executive Director of Advanced Design, and Martin Smith, GM Europe Director of Design.

The Lightning was designed and developed at the GMNA studio in Birmingham. The team was headed by GMNA Advanced Design Director and chief designer on the Lightning, Simon Cox. The joint design team included Opel Advanced Chief Designer Stefan Arndt, Dale Grewer (exterior), and Jochen Werner (interior)."

It was orginally the Opel Lightning, the rear end has been changed on the Sky version but in my opinion the lightning's rear end was better.

Bob Lutz is finally teaching GM that they should use the best resources avaliable to GM regardless of them in inside or outside the US... multi-national companies in other industries learnt this a long time ago. Maybe GM USA will one day have a product that can be a true and substained export success.

[Evil LS1]

Wow what can one say about those cars. Hmm I know

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Can't touch the yanks when it comes to gross and putrid car designs. But what do you expect from a country where the Camry is the biggest selling car and Bush is President.

[Swordie]

300C seems like a nice a looking car. In the States if you aren't into SUVs there is not much to choose from apart from the new Mustang. When I was there last year I did not see anything similar to Commodore, most of the bigger sedans were fwd and did not have much room on the inside. It appeared if you wanted space an SUV was the way to go.