projector headlights

[seldo]

One of the most disappointing things with my VY Senator is the performance of the lights, and I have been trolling the net trying to find a worthy upgrade. For a performance car the lights are woeful. I tried some 80w (vs 55w) upgrade globes which I bought over the net but because the H9 and H11 globes are quite unusual there is very little alternative. The 80w ones I bought turned out be blue tinged which made them look good and appear to be HIDs but they did not work any better in terms of showing me where the road was. So after some very generous help from Daniel Stern Lighting in the US, I was advised to try the H9 hi-beam globes in the H11 sockets. Now, it is a fiddly conversion but well worth the trouble - I reckon about a 50% improvement. This will improve your lumens output from 1350 to 2100! If you are interested, listen carefully... The H9 globe and the H11 look more or less the same except that if you hold them side by side the locating lugs on the bulb-base are slightly different. the top one (closest to the wiring plug) is asymetrical and the one on the H9 is sort of biased to the left and the H11 is biased to the right . to make them fit I just used a pair of good snips to trim about 3mm off the left side of the top lug so that it became roughly symetrical. However, you will find that whilst they will now fit the head-light socket the plug will not fit the globe. You will find that the bulb female socket has 2 locating lugs moulded into the plastic of the base either side of the 2 electrical pins in the centre, but 1 of those will prevent the male plug from fitting into the socket. I decided that it was a very precise and delicate job so I just used a very sharp fine chisel to remove the top lug from the globe socket. After that, the plug slipped in like a pr*ck in a pillow-case. Put it all back together - replace battery, globe-sealing caps, radiator top shroud, CAI access hatch etc, and Robert's your uncle. It is a very worthwhile improvement if you want to see where you are going, and best part is - only costs the price of 2 H9 globes - about $50. BTW, it seems that the genuine globes are cheaper than, and as good as any aftermarket ones. Cheers :cheers: :)

[seldo]

Sorry, a quick edit here. I was just going from memory, but when i check I find that the lug is the one furthest away from the plug, not closest as i said. sorry.

[ajs]

Seldo I just had a look at the series1 monaro lights h9 and h11 globes they will interchange just have to modify the wiring plug, did you put in brighter globes or just plain 65watt hi beam globes (the globes look identical)

[seldo]

Seldo I just had a look at the series1 monaro lights h9 and h11 globes they will interchange just have to modify the wiring plug, did you put in brighter globes or just plain 65watt hi beam globes (the globes look identical)
Just the standard Hi beam H9s in the H11 socket. Makes a huge difference and they are 65w instead of 55w for the H11. But according to Daniel Stern Lighting in the US who gave me the tip, the light out-put which is the important thing, leaps from 1350 lumens to 2100. I've just come home in the dark now and the difference is well worthwhile. :D

[Knight Phlier]

I did this mod on the weekend to my headlights - Following the instructions on this thread (Thanks to Seldo!!). The results are awesome! I would say something like a 25-35% improvement in brightness. Definately noticable, even the missus noticed the difference without me saying anything.

I also changed the parking lights on the side to a neon globe as they are really dull the stock globe is like a candle in terms of brightness.

I used the H9 globes from Holden ($25 each), and followed Seldo's wise words of wisdom and it works a treat. Took about 2 hours all up.

[RichardM]

..... I've just come home in the dark ......I thought you were kept in the dark all the time, just like me. :cool:

[seldo]

I thought you were kept in the dark all the time, just like me. :cool:
That was before.....but Aahhh hev seeen the liiigghhttt!!!!!!

[Nidz]

Hello there.. interesting reading.. In regards to the Holden elecs we know they can sometimes be touchy. I think in the 3 Holdens i've had 2 so far have has some issues with electricals. Using a higher wattage bulb with brighter output obviously would put out more heat and load on the headlight relay. Would this be a bad thing?

[seldo]

Hello there.. interesting reading.. In regards to the Holden elecs we know they can sometimes be touchy. I think in the 3 Holdens i've had 2 so far have has some issues with electricals. Using a higher wattage bulb with brighter output obviously would put out more heat and load on the headlight relay. Would this be a bad thing?
Yes, if you were putting substantial extra load (like another 100w or so) it could make a difference. But the minor wattage difference that we are talking here (65 vs 55) is neither here nor there, but the difference in light output is substantial, like 55% greater..

[HSV_Punk]

So no problems with the mod at all? Its very interesting and something I think i might just have to do in the near future. Thanks for the idea.

[seldo]

So no problems with the mod at all? Its very interesting and something I think i might just have to do in the near future. Thanks for the idea.
Believe me - the difference is amazing!

[seldo]

So no problems with the mod at all? Its very interesting and something I think i might just have to do in the near future. Thanks for the idea.
Believe me - the difference is amazing! Wish i could get a 55% increase in hp for $50!

[bassplayer]

is it legal to have these much brighter low beams? r u goin to be the wan$er comin towards me that i have to flash my lights at?

[seldo]

is it legal to have these much brighter low beams? r u goin to be the wan$er comin towards me that i have to flash my lights at?
No, they don't glare if they are correctly aimed, ie no higher than you would for the standard set-up. I agree - I hate cars with glaring headlights like most of the HID set-ups....

[HSV_Punk]

Anyone have any pictures or diagrams of the modification of the globe?

[seldo]

Anyone have any pictures or diagrams of the modification of the globe?
I'll see what I can do for you

[Highway]

Seldo did your globe swap last night with an amazing improvement.

Now with the headlights and fog lights both on its like a wall of light just
in front of the car. At least a 50% improvement.
The headlight beam is still at the right height its just brighter.

Thanks for the detailed info in your post.

Mike

[seldo]

Seldo did your globe swap last night with an amazing improvement.

Now with the headlights and fog lights both on its like a wall of light just
in front of the car. At least a 50% improvement.
The headlight beam is still at the right height its just brighter.

Thanks for the detailed info in your post.

Mike
:thumbsup: It sure makes a huge difference doesn't it! Glad you like it..;)

[vh-holden]

No, they don't glare if they are correctly aimed, ie no higher than you would for the standard set-up. I agree - I hate cars with glaring headlights like most of the HID set-ups....

what happens when you are coming over a rise though. with normal globes it can be pretty dazzling, so with brighter globes it could be worse.

[seldo]

what happens when you are coming over a rise though. with normal globes it can be pretty dazzling, so with brighter globes it could be worse.
They are only 65w which is what many cars are anyway... It's not as if they are 100s

[Cobalt]

Lets explain why this works....


The h9 globes dont have the "condom" type blakout at the end of the globe.

As they focus through a lense in this case this is not a particular problem in low beam instances. Holden should have installed the h9's in the low beams in the first place...

Cobalt

[HSV_Punk]

Will this give a better spread of light?

[Cobalt]

After reading this i went to holden to get the h9 bulbs... guess what no stock...

I will do this mod tomorrow and post some pic's

Cobalt

[CAPRICIOUS_LS1]

Looks like i have an extra job tonight! I'm so sick of the feeble light output of the standard H11's. (And the fact my other car has xenons!) The only thing i am concerned about is the extra wattage, therefore extra heat, being produced in the wires. I'd just like to ask Seldo if all the wiring looms are ok, if nothing has melted...i'm guessing its all ok, considering u did the mod in January!

[seldo]

Looks like i have an extra job tonight! I'm so sick of the feeble light output of the standard H11's. (And the fact my other car has xenons!) The only thing i am concerned about is the extra wattage, therefore extra heat, being produced in the wires. I'd just like to ask Seldo if all the wiring looms are ok, if nothing has melted...i'm guessing its all ok, considering u did the mod in January!
They are only 65w vs 55w - not as if they are 120w or some such. It's only an extra 10w. I've had no probs at all. It's the best, most dramatic improvement I've made to the car. I did my mate's Grange yesterday - he's as happy as a pig since he couldn't see a thing with the standard ones, especially after the HIDs in his previous Lexus...

[daveee]

Can this mod be done on any commodore vt-vx or only those with the gas discharging lights(calais, new hsv's, vzss etc)?

[CAPRICIOUS_LS1]

Well guys, i've just done the mod during my lunch break! Took all of 45 mins! I did the left side first so that i didn't have to disconnect the battery and noticed, even in the bright of day, that the 65 watters were noticeably brigher than the 55 watter on the other side when looking directly at the headlights. Also, drove up against a wall and the 65 watter was about 30% brighter than the 55 watter (and this is during the day, so it will be more noticeable at night!) So, did the same mod to the battery side, reconnected the battery and she's all set. I can't wait for darkness to set in to test them out on the road. By the way, i didn't have a chisel, so i just used a circuit board soldering iron...did the job in 1 minute each globe...just melted the bit in the middle and it came out on the tip of the soldering iron, too easy!
Hopefully this mod will make me forget about getting xenons for this car! The prices for the xenon H11's are still very expensive as not many cars have H11's yet, like $900 on the net compared to say $450 for a set of H4 HID's.

[CAPRICIOUS_LS1]

And a big thanks to Seldo for letting us in on this info!

[seldo]

Can this mod be done on any commodore vt-vx or only those with the gas discharging lights(calais, new hsv's, vzss etc)?
Sorry davee....only those with projector lenses. Sadly we don't have any with gas-discharge lights - if we did , we wouldn't need to be rooting around doing this. But the cars you mention have the projector lenses - they are just pretend HID lights...

[seldo]

And a big thanks to Seldo for letting us in on this info!
You are welcome. I think you'll agree - the best cheapest mod you can do...

[CAPRICIOUS_LS1]

I agree with Seldo, they are imitation HID's. Sure, they look like HID's from a long way away up the road, shining all purple/blue/green, but up close u know they are just crappy halogens. Holden better offer Xenons as standard in the VE Caprice when it gets released. U should expect xenons as standard if ur paying close enough to 80K for a car, or at least offer it as an option..please!

ANyway, i'll post my review on the 55w-65W mod tomorrow after i test it out tonight!
Laters!

[Highway]

Brilliant improvement and have not been flashed as yet to date.

Thanks again Seldo.


Mike

[daveee]

Sorry davee....only those with projector lenses. Sadly we don't have any with gas-discharge lights - if we did , we wouldn't need to be rooting around doing this. But the cars you mention have the projector lenses - they are just pretend HID lights...

Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't think they had the same look as the euro cars.

cheers.

[Inter-ceptor]

Holden projectors look awesome from far away (dazzling colours), but when you get close, they dont shine the road that much and look like your average yellow light.

[zizou]

and i thought my lights were bright enough...lol :)

[chillicatqld]

so seldo - for the dumba**es like me - do I go into Holden and ask for - H9 bulbs?

[seldo]

so seldo - for the dumba**es like me - do I go into Holden and ask for - H9 bulbs?
hehe...no, if you do that they will :rolleyes: and shake their heads sadly at each other....You need to ask for 92095788 HDLP Hi-spec bulbs - Hi-beam...They should be $22.21 ea +gst = $48.85pr :)

[VYSHSV8]

They are only 65w vs 55w - not as if they are 120w or some such. It's only an extra 10w. I've had no probs at all. It's the best, most dramatic improvement I've made to the car. I did my mate's Grange yesterday - he's as happy as a pig since he couldn't see a thing with the standard ones, especially after the HIDs in his previous Lexus...

the extra 10watt won't hurt the wiring not as going from 65 to 100watters the biggest problem there would be that you wont be able to get the correct current supply with small diametre wiring and if you did that wouldn't be the biggest prob you would start to melt the polycarbonate lenses with the extra heat generated with the 100watt globes, 65watt wont be a prob.

[Sonnymad]

I f you guys want awsome lights,get the crystal diamond lights,not sure of thier halogens though i fitted a set to my sv300,they are a 4000grand option on the mercs,they are real powerfull and come with all their own modules,wiring,plugs and all,they plug straight into the cars wiring.wenn ever i drive ppl are always looking at my lights,they are awsome,i even had a copper pull me up and say wat da hell are those ! lollll
\they are not cheap,but a awsome investment in my opnion,other may differ


regards sonny

[jason phillips]

[QUOTE=SV300 LS6]I f you guys want awsome lights,get the crystal diamond lights,not sure of thier halogens though i fitted a set to my sv300,they are a 4000grand option on the mercs,they are real powerfull and come with all their own modules,wiring,plugs and all,they plug straight into the cars wiring.wenn ever i drive ppl are always looking at my lights,they are awsome,i even had a copper pull me up and say wat da hell are those ! lollll
\they are not cheap,but a awsome investment in my opnion,other may differ

Where can I get some. Does it also apply for high beam. I do a heap of highway driving day and night. I need better lights. I have the monaro projector lenses which i think are better than the standard lights but are still pretty RS.

Do you have any pics of what you are talking about.

[seldo]

I f you guys want awsome lights,get the crystal diamond lights,not sure of thier halogens though i fitted a set to my sv300,they are a 4000grand option on the mercs,they are real powerfull and come with all their own modules,wiring,plugs and all,they plug straight into the cars wiring.wenn ever i drive ppl are always looking at my lights,they are awsome,i even had a copper pull me up and say wat da hell are those ! lollll
\they are not cheap,but a awsome investment in my opnion,other may differ


regards sonny
More detail pls sonny...? But those aren't suitable for the projector lenses are they? I gather that is a conversion for H4..?

[CAPRICIOUS_LS1]

Thanks Seldo...unbelieveable improvement, about 30% extra light on the road now due to the conversion, the light is whiter, the dazzling colours of the projector lens have improved, and the other thing i have noticed is that there is no longer that annoying sharp cut-off that i could always see on dark roads because the H9's don't have the grey bit at the top of the lens.

Sv300 ls6, how much were these crystal globes and where did u get them from? Can u find out if they are real HID's?

[Hammer]

got a question , this driving lights mod, can it be done to vy-vz or can you do it to a car like mine VX II HSV clubbie ????


cheers,
hammer

[seldo]

Thanks Seldo...unbelieveable improvement, about 30% extra light on the road now due to the conversion..................,
Yes, it's sure worthwhile isn't it! Actually it's a 55% improvement - 1350 lumens for the H11 vs 2100 for the H9..!

[seldo]

got a question , this driving lights mod, can it be done to vy-vz or can you do it to a car like mine VX II HSV clubbie ????


cheers,
hammer
It's not a driving light mod Hammer, it is a mod to the low-beam. It is only for those lights using an original H11 globe which fit into the projector headlights. The projector lights are the ones that have a small lense (about 100mm dia from memory) that looks like a really thick magnifying glass.

[Sonnymad]

More detail pls sonny...? But those aren't suitable for the projector lenses are they? I gather that is a conversion for H4..?


hi there,

you can obtain thses lights from Sydney hi tech (02)97156707 ask for elias,you can get them in any bulb you wish h4/h7/h1etc,they suit the projector lights to the bone and you can have them on high beam as well(warning you will blind ppl !)they are great i lovem .50%more light badly ! in my oponion the cystal diamond is the best option,they are the ones you see on honda s2000's and mercs,they blind you ! anyone that wishes to know more bout these light can contact me on 0410402167

regards sonny

[QuicksilverVZ]

hi there,

you can obtain thses lights from Sydney hi tech (02)97156707 ask for elias,you can get them in any bulb you wish h4/h7/h1etc,they suit the projector lights to the bone and you can have them on high beam as well(warning you will blind ppl !)they are great i lovem .50%more light badly ! in my oponion the cystal diamond is the best option,they are the ones you see on honda s2000's and mercs,they blind you ! anyone that wishes to know more bout these light can contact me on 0410402167

regards sonny

Can you please give us an indication of price to do the low beams with these?

[sillyoldone]

Search for "HID H11" on ebay - plenty of kits for sale $350.00 to $550.00

[Sonnymad]

Can you please give us an indication of price to do the low beams with these?


The kits are $600 and i belive the globes last 10years


regards sonny

[VX2VESS]

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

[seldo]

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
it was Daniel Stern who gave me the tip on replacing the H11 with the H9..

[Wonky]

Had this mod done today - excellent result! Thanks Seldo! :)

Due to now having something similar to MS (hence the name Wonky!) I can no longer do this sort of thing myself so got the local auto elec to do it. They took a slightly different approach though even though I printed out Seldo's and CAPRICIOUS_LS1's instructions for them. Instead of modifying the bulbs themselves they modified the bulb holders so that now they will take either H9 or H11 globes. Means if ever I need to replace one of the H9's I can just stick an unmodified one in - nice and easy. Haven't seen the bulb holders to know if there are any potential downsides to it but I am happy with their approach.

Wonky

[seldo]

Had this mod done today - excellent result! Thanks Seldo! :)

Due to now having something similar to MS (hence the name Wonky!) I can no longer do this sort of thing myself so got the local auto elec to do it. They took a slightly different approach though even though I printed out Seldo's and CAPRICIOUS_LS1's instructions for them. Instead of modifying the bulbs themselves they modified the bulb holders so that now they will take either H9 or H11 globes. Means if ever I need to replace one of the H9's I can just stick an unmodified one in - nice and easy. Haven't seen the bulb holders to know if there are any potential downsides to it but I am happy with their approach.

Wonky
Glad you like it Wonky :). Sure makes a big difference doesn't it? I don't see that there's much difference in the way they did the plug rather than the globe ...6 of one vs half a dozen of the other...either would work. The end result is what's important and is the same. :) I've got to do my mate's Grange on Weds...he loves it but can't see where he's going at night..:shock:

[amckiwi]

Does this information apply to my VR?

If not is there any lighting mods I can make??

Cheers
Stu

[HRT 8]

Seldo, youve started something here.
Maybe you could list the particular models of Commodores that this mod can be performed on.

[8throttlebodies]

Sticky Post maybe?? (trim this post off).

Good thread again Seldo. Cheap and easy DIY stuff.
Well done.
8tb

[seldo]

Does this information apply to my VR?

If not is there any lighting mods I can make??

Cheers
Stu
Sorry Stu. The best i could manage when i had a VR was just some of the better globes like Phillips Crystal Vision, or the +30 & +50 range.

[seldo]

Seldo, youve started something here.
Maybe you could list the particular models of Commodores that this mod can be performed on.
I'm not absolutely sure of the full range, but it can be done to any that have the projector lamps (in case someone doesn't know - the ones that have a thick sort-of magnifying-glass lense about 100mm dia). I think that means only VY onwards, but includes Senator/Calais, Statesman/Caprice, Monaro, Adventra/Avalanche, late SS, Berlina...Ithink that's it, but I'm sure someone will set me straight if it isn't..;) But I promise that you won't be disappointed and it's the best $50 you can spend your car. :)

[Highway]

Seldo, youve started something here.
Maybe you could list the particular models of Commodores that this mod can be performed on.

Seldo you will be answering questions on this thread forever.

A great conversion and have not been flashed todate.

Mike

[chops]

A great conversion and have not been flashed todate.

That's good to hear.

I've been considering this mod myself, but the "flashed" thing is what bothered me.

Will give it a go!

[VX2VESS]

That's good to hear.

I've been considering this mod myself, but the "flashed" thing is what bothered me.

Will give it a go!

i don't mind women flashing me.

[seldo]

Seldo you will be answering questions on this thread forever.

A great conversion and have not been flashed todate.

Mike
Who ever suggested that you'd be getting flashed..?? I certainly never have been. Nor has anyone ever flashed their lights at me either...;)

[8HSVR8]

Hi Guys,

Just a question for those who have done this mod... I have a VY2 R8 so i think the mod will work on my car but what im wondering is, after doing the mod and installing the new bulb do you still have the projector lights effect of throwing off colors? ie.. when you go over bumps etc the lights go purple/green/blue etc... will I lose this effect after installing the new bulbs?

Am hoping to do this mod on the weekend.

Thanks
Shane

[seldo]

Hi Guys,

Just a question for those who have done this mod... I have a VY2 R8 so i think the mod will work on my car but what im wondering is, after doing the mod and installing the new bulb do you still have the projector lights effect of throwing off colors? ie.. when you go over bumps etc the lights go purple/green/blue etc... will I lose this effect after installing the new bulbs?

Am hoping to do this mod on the weekend.

Thanks
Shane
I see absolutely no reason why not.. that's just a product of the light refraction. But I have to say that the prospect has never even entered my head - I only use the headlights so I can see where I'm going in the dark....

[Rystar]

hey guys

i have the Monaro lights in my SS.
you know how the light cuts off pretty sharply along the top (about at the top of the boot of the car infront). will that change with this mod?

is that characteristic, the globe itself, or the lense?

cheers
R

[seldo]

Rystar: It doesn't change at all. You just have 55% more light!!! That's a factor of the lense, not the globe.

[Rystar]

thanks Seldo.
i do like how the light is cut off at the top. so it doesnt dazzle other drivers.

i actually think the amount of light from the monaro headlights is fantastic..... but you must remember... my last car was a VN.
the headlights were absolutely shocking.

i might look into this when i get the chance

cheers
R

[scalpa]

i just got home and did this mod it only took me about 20 mins all up i didnt even have to disconnect the battery i just undid the bolt and moved it back a bit the difference in lights is amazing espescially when i checked the difference after just doing one !
excellent mod reccommend to all.

[seldo]

i just got home and did this mod it only took me about 20 mins all up i didnt even have to disconnect the battery i just undid the bolt and moved it back a bit the difference in lights is amazing espescially when i checked the difference after just doing one !
excellent mod reccommend to all.
What more can I say..;)

[8HSVR8]

Well..I did this mod last nyt... Seldo thank you for showing us the light!
Heres a beer to you.. :cheers: !
I think its a 30 - 40% improvement in brightnmess. In my car the bulbs interchanged just had to clip the platic bit in the plug end.. took me about an hour to do both sides. Well worrth the effort!
Highly recommend to anyone whos unsure but thinking of doing..

Thanks Seldo!

Shane

[WHLS1]

Thought I would see what Autobarn and SuperCheap had in the way of H9 globes. None in stock is the answer - can order some in at around $69.00. Genuine Holden spares is defintely the way to go.

[seldo]

Thought I would see what Autobarn and SuperCheap had in the way of H9 globes. None in stock is the answer - can order some in at around $69.00. Genuine Holden spares is defintely the way to go.
Yep! Part No 92095788 - should be about $24-$25 ea
*HSVRSV8 : Pleased to be of service. BTW, all donations and cartons gratefully received..;)

[scalpa]

yeh, i found when i rang around that holden were a hell of a lot cheaper than repco too. holden was about 25.00ea repco was 56.00ea and that was trade!

[ss-gt]

I was reading the link daniel stern's lighting and read that if you have reflectors don't bother just chuckin in HID bulbs.

I was wondering is it possible to get projectors fitted to your lights? Like change the whole lot completely? I own an AU and WH statesman and want to mod the AU headlights.. they are ugly and crappy. I know you can get aftermarket lights for the statesman so thats no problem its just the AU.. any ideas on who can do it?

[DaveHAT]

I've been followig this thread for a while with some interest & was a little sceptical as to the difference the modification would make.
So at 6.15pm with phillips head, 13mm socket (to move the battery) and craft knife in hand I started and by 6.45pm had taken the car for a road test.

All I can say about it is............Seldo you bloody legend. :cheers: What an improvement. The monaro lights were pretty good before, but this is just sensational.

Thanks again for the tips Seldo, consider your reputation added to very much in the affirmative. :thumbsup:

Cheers Dave. :D

[seldo]

I've been followig this thread for a while with some interest & was a little sceptical as to the difference the modification would make.
So at 6.15pm with phillips head, 13mm socket (to move the battery) and craft knife in hand I started and by 6.45pm had taken the car for a road test.

All I can say about it is............Seldo you bloody legend. :cheers: What an improvement. The monaro lights were pretty good before, but this is just sensational.

Thanks again for the tips Seldo, consider your reputation added to very much in the affirmative. :thumbsup:

Cheers Dave. :D
Thanks Tiger. A lot of people sort of :rolleyes: as if the difference would be SFA, but it really does make a huge difference doesn't it? In fact technically speaking it is an improvement of 55% in light output! Like I've said in previous posts, it's the best $50 you'll spend on your car...In fact, I was so disappointed in the standard lights that I may have even got rid of it because of them. ...Not now...Enjoy..:)

[VX2VESS]

those aftermarket euro lights they are projector lights?

may have to get some so i can do this mod if so.

[chops]

Anyone want to post some pics for us people who are scared to cut things without pictures?

[seldo]

Anyone want to post some pics for us people who are scared to cut things without pictures?
OK, I'll try. I did take some pictures with a view to doing that but the quality was so poor you might have ended up removing your thumb by mistake...
But, I'll have another go for you.

[jason phillips]

Just rang up about the price on the H9 globes and got talking to the bloke about whay I was gonna do. He then tries to tell me that the philips crystal vision H11 globes will do the same for the mear cost of $80 a pair.

I got given a set of these ages ago and have never fitted them cos I thought that they would be worse than the standard H11. Has any one tried them?

I will still be getting the H9's when I go some where that will not dick me around an give me what I ask for.

[DaveHAT]

OK for those following this thread, I've taken some pics, all be they not great as to what you should trim in the globe connector. So I'll put it into steps. I should add that my car has the monaro lights & I can only presume that the VY projector lights will be same, so here goes.

Step 1. Remove radiator cover/shroud by undoing the 4 plastic screw thingys.
Step 2. Undo the battery securing bolt & move the battery enough so you can get you hand behind the drivers side headlight. No need to disconnect the battery.
Step 3. Reach into the mcai (L side) or behind the battery (R side) & unscrew the plastic covers at the back of the headlight that cover the wires and headlight globe.
Step 4. Carefully Disconnect the plug that goes onto each globe.
Step 5. Unscrew the globe by turning it gently counter clock wise.
Step 6. In you left hand you should have this:

The standard projector globe.
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/tigerss/standard%20globe.jpg

Hopefully therefore in you right hand you should have the H9 globe like this:
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/tigerss/H9%20globe..jpg


Step 7. Compare the connector in each globe & you should see which bit you need to trim to make the H9 fit the existing wiring connector.

The bit/lug/piece that you need to trim off the H9 globe is this bit:
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/tigerss/H9%20modified.JPG
In the pic I have already trimmed the piece off but I think you can see where it was. I just used a sharp craft knife & genlty trimmed the extra lug bit (technical term) off to match the standard globe.

Basically you need to make the connector on the H9 globe match the connector on the standard globe, which when you look at them side by side sort of explains itself. (Sorry don't have pic of that, damb battery).

Step 8. Trial fit the H9 globe to the wiring connector. Don't be a goose like me & give it a bit more encouragement, :rolleyes: keep trimming until it just clicks back into place as the original globe did.

Reassembly is just the reverse procedure of everything above.

I hope that helps people wanting to do this mod. It really is very simple and as said if you can operate a 13mm socket, phillips head screwdriver and stanley knife, you should be able to do this very worth while mod in about 30 minutes.

Cheers Dave.

[VX2VESS]

these sponsor lights will this mod work for these ones ? appear to be projector in the center.

http://www.ozeparts.com.au/picture%5CI%5CVT%5CIVT4500NA.jpg

[chops]

Question: Rather than modding globes, is it possible to change the connector so that they are both H9 connections, and if a globe blows you can just replace it with another H9?

[DaveHAT]

Question: Rather than modding globes, is it possible to change the connector so that they are both H9 connections, and if a globe blows you can just replace it with another H9?

Might be a bit fiddly due to the short length of the wires going to the connector plug, but nothings impossible I suppose. It would probably require more disassembly i.e completely removing the airbox and battery to give you enough room to work. Not a bad idea though.

[DaveHAT]

Oops double post, sorry mods- Please delete.

[seldo]

Question: Rather than modding globes, is it possible to change the connector so that they are both H9 connections, and if a globe blows you can just replace it with another H9?
Yes, I see no reason why not. I began with the globe because it was easier (ie take it inside to the bench to do it) and also so that if I stuffed-up all I had to do was put the globe in the bin and no harm done...
Tiger: Thanks for your efforts there. The quality of my photos was not much different to yours which is why i didn't put them up..:stick: ;)

[HacketR8]

Does any one know how to undo the 4 plastic screw thingys in the VZ series. They do not have screw heads and I cant work out how they work. Yeh I know "Dumb Question". I have the globes, I have the motivation, I just can't get the fixings out to do the job.

[bigdongers]

can you get these H9 bulbs from anywhere else apart from Holden? I was after some of those blue tinged bulbs in H9 but cant find any! Ebay has heaps in all other sizes but H9 seems to be really lacking.

[DaveHAT]

Tiger: Thanks for your efforts there. The quality of my photos was not much different to yours which is why i didn't put them up..:stick: ;)

Yep, great finger shots hey ? :lol:

[Neo_VE_SSV]

ok...went to do the mod, VY series 1...and lo and behold no go! :eek: Just for other peeps info H1 and H4 bulbs are fitted so no go with the H9's :confused: anyways anyone after a pair of H9's just pm me :bash:

Cheers,

Michael

[DaveHAT]

ok...went to do the mod, VY series 1...and lo and behold no go! :eek: Just for other peeps info H1 and H4 bulbs are fitted so no go with the H9's :confused: anyways anyone after a pair of H9's just pm me :bash:

Cheers,

Michael

SS don't have projector headlights. :teach:

[NickS]

OK, you have all convinced me ... got my globes, will do it to both cars before the weekend is out. Hope it's as good as you all say !!

[8throttlebodies]

Seldo,
Can you list all the models from Vt onwards with projector lights standard?
thanks
8tb

[gondy]

these are the models that contain projector headlights they are
VY s1 and s2 berlina and calais
VZ berlina, Calais and SS including ute
All V2 monaros
2002 WH statesman international and international LS8
WK and WL statesman and caprice
All VY and VZ hsv
WK and WL hsv grange

i think thats all the models from memory
thanks

[seldo]

can you get these H9 bulbs from anywhere else apart from Holden? I was after some of those blue tinged bulbs in H9 but cant find any! Ebay has heaps in all other sizes but H9 seems to be really lacking.
I've got some if you want some...

[seldo]

SS don't have projector headlights. :teach:
Sorry, only VZ for the SS

[ACT_Cross8]

these are the models that contain projector headlights they are
VY s1 and s2 berlina and calais
VZ berlina, Calais and SS including ute
All V2 monaros
2002 WH statesman international and international LS8
WK and WL statesman and caprice
All VY and VZ hsv
WK and WL hsv grange

i think thats all the models from memory
thanks

Plus Adventra and Cross8 I believe :)

[HacketR8]

To Seldo and Tiger SS, thanks for the effort guys. This is not an optional mod it's a must do.

Only took 15 mins to do. Moded the globes watching Orange County Choppers as a result of Tigers Pics.

[seldo]

To Seldo and Tiger SS, thanks for the effort guys. This is not an optional mod it's a must do.

Only took 15 mins to do. Moded the globes watching Orange County Choppers as a result of Tigers Pics.
We aim to please...your aim would help too....oops, sorry, i read that on a toilet door somewhere...;)

[ACT_Cross8]

Just swapped globes in my Cross8. Very happy with the results. Only wish I had read this post a year ago when I bought the car :bash: :rolleyes:

[Fire Truck]

Neo, I'm in the same boat as you!! :lol:
I picked up on this thread a few weeks ago and bought the H9 globes, discovered 10 mins ago they just wont fit so go back over this thread and........ :o I have the H4 globes. :confused:
Anyway, I guess the next step is to determine if our VY SS's can be fitted with projector headlights. Can anyone tell us if the VY s1 and s2 berlina and calais projector headlights will slot straight in a VY SS II Ute (mine)??? They will need to be the small teardrop in the middle sort.
By the way the photos back in this thread are an excellent guide, appreciated.
I may have a set of H9 globes going if I cannot make this work, stay tuned.

[chops]

Can anyone tell us if the VY s1 and s2 berlina and calais projector headlights will slot straight in a VY SS II Ute (mine)??? They will need to be the small teardrop in the middle sort.

Projector lights are straight along the bottom, no tear drop, sorry.

http://www.users.on.net/~wdhand/car/projectorlight.JPG

[Fire Truck]

Guess now I have 1 pair of brand new H9 globes for sale to good home.
Thanks for info chops. Or I could trade in the ute for a calais!! On second thoughts, NO CHANCE!
If anyone in the Townsville area wants them, just pm me, I am also driving to Darwin next w/end for the V8's so if someone up there wants them just get back to me. :)

[seldo]

I'm sorry guys if you didn't read the thread properly. To make it quite plain - SS didn't have projector lights until the VZ. And, as I have said a couple of times, to determine if your car has the projector lights, just have a look at the headlight from front-on. Observe carefully and ask youself the question - Does the low-beam have a lense that looks like a really thick magnifying glass... If it does, you have projector lights and this mod will work for you....If not, you have reflector lights and the mod will not work as they use different globes...

[NickS]

OK ... last weekend didn't happen, the Mrs said we were too busy to play with the car, which we were but I would have had a go anyway. Just did the Coupe 4 in about half an hour and now it's pouring. Will do the Avalanche tomorrow. Now all I need is for the sun to go down so I can try them.

Seldo, your a champ ... +ive rep. coming your way :thumbsup:

[Mick_540]

I just done my wagon, took 30 minutes. Will see what they are like tonight.

[barcode]

Hi guys
just did the conversion to mine and love the difference
one thing i noticed though is that the projector glass seems to have a film over it- like its fogged up- but doesnt disapear when lights on
i think this is also affecting the performance
Does anybody else have this problem?
Does anyone know how to clean it?
The vehicle is only one month old so i know it would be under warranty but am trying to fix instead of having to put up with holden dealer
Thanks

[NickS]

Hi guys
just did the conversion to mine and love the difference
one thing i noticed though is that the projector glass seems to have a film over it- like its fogged up- but doesnt disapear when lights on
i think this is also affecting the performance
Does anybody else have this problem?
Does anyone know how to clean it?
The vehicle is only one month old so i know it would be under warranty but am trying to fix instead of having to put up with holden dealer
Thanks
They are supposed to look like that, must be some sort of filter or something ... I wouldn't bother trying to clean it as I would say it is in the glass. They are all the same !!

[CV8-S1]

Replaced the bulbs on my car last week, much brighter, whiter light. It is amazing that 10watts and the absence of the shaded bit on the end of the low beam bulb actually makes.

[lautray]

these sponsor lights will this mod work for these ones ? appear to be projector in the center.

http://www.ozeparts.com.au/picture%5CI%5CVT%5CIVT4500NA.jpg
Checked these out the other day... uses H1 bulbs for both low & high beam.

From Daniel Stern Lighting: (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/bulb_types/bulb_types.html)
H1 55w 1550 lumen: ECE/SAE axial filament. Headlamps, fog lamps, drive lamps...
H1 +30 55w 1700 lumen: High Efficiency
H1 +50 55w 1795 lumen: Ultra High Efficiency

H4 60/55 1650/1000 ECE. Axial filaments, shielded lowbeam filamnent.
H4 +30 60/55 1700/1075 High Efficiency
H4 +50 60/55 1830/1148 Ultra High Efficiency

A H4 = 1000 lumen (standard vx headlight bulb), so significant output if you go the H1 +50 bulb in these lights.

[bobg]

Question: Rather than modding globes, is it possible to change the connector so that they are both H9 connections, and if a globe blows you can just replace it with another H9?
Rather than changing [replacing] the connector you could just cut a groove down the side of the original ones using a dremel, etc.

regards

Bob G

[Wonky]

Question: Rather than modding globes, is it possible to change the connector so that they are both H9 connections, and if a globe blows you can just replace it with another H9?
Probably a bit late now but missed your original question, sorry. Seeing bobg's reply above I thought I'd add my bit. As per post #52 in this thread the guy who did mine modified the connector so it now takes unmodified H9 or H11 globes . Simple! :)

[bobg]

Rather than changing [replacing] the connector you could just cut a groove down the side of the original ones using a dremel, etc.

regards

Bob G
Hmmmmmm. Just some further comments.

After looking closely at the H9 globe connector [on Holden part number 92095788] it would seem that all you need to do is cut an additional groove for the shorter of the two nibs [the one closer to the globe itself as seen here] on the connector.

http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL930/1749213/4685856/104071375.jpg

I would use a cutter in the dremel like that shown in the bottom of the picture and the only problem might be getting the slot/groove deep enough near the seal end of the connector to allow full engagement without damaging the seal.

I will let you know how this works out in the next day or so as I now have the globes to fit to my monaro headlights.

BTW the globes I bought from Holden as part number 92095788 are rated at 65W


regards

Bob G

[seldo]

Rather than changing [replacing] the connector you could just cut a groove down the side of the original ones using a dremel, etc.

regards

Bob G
Sorry guys, been o/s for 3 weeks so have not been following the Forum.
Yes, certainly - all these suggestions of changing the male plug, or cutting a groove in the socket will also work to make them fit. But when I first did the mod I chose to just mod the globe rather then the car's wiring/plugs so that if it was not successful I just had to throw away the globe and there would be no permanent damage to the car. But, as many have found, there are more ways of skinning a cat than ....etc... But, in the end, there is a huge improvement no matter which course you follow

[JasonBB]

After a long absence from the forum I came back last night and read this thread, by 1:30pm today I had changed the globes :D
I cant wait to see them when it gets dark, I found I was using the high beams so much more than my old car, I think the high beams as very good.
I used a soldering iron to get the extra lug out which I found pretty straight forward, what I had most trouble with was cutting the extra metal piece out.

[sillyoldone]

Back about 8 months ago I did the H9 - H11 swap and it certainly made a difference.

I use the Adventra mainly in the country and I was still not happy with the lo-beam (being an old fart with fadeing night vision), and decided last week to take the next step - HID H11 6000k

Nearly 4 hours of truley fiddly messing around to fit the lamps and ballasts and now all I can say is WOW!!!

For the sake of $350.00 on e-bay make the change. You will not regret it. Light output is up majorly and the beam is far more uniform in intensity making it easier on the eyes.

Leave the dark side and see the light - HID is the way to GO!

[seldo]

Just as an addendum to this post, I fitted a set of globes to my mate's car the other day and did not bother cutting the little metal lug. As far as I am aware, the only problem this causes is it makes it a bit fiddly to fit the globe, but other than that could see no reason to bother with the trimming of the metal tab. It just means that instead of all 3 tabs slotting-in at once, you have to get the top one in first and then rotate the globe slightly to get the other 2 in - apart from that, no probs. Having said that though I haven't seen whether it changes the beam cut-off or anything similar. Try it and see.

[VooDoo]

Back about 8 months ago I did the H9 - H11 swap and it certainly made a difference.

I use the Adventra mainly in the country and I was still not happy with the lo-beam (being an old fart with fadeing night vision), and decided last week to take the next step - HID H11 6000k

Nearly 4 hours of truley fiddly messing around to fit the lamps and ballasts and now all I can say is WOW!!!

For the sake of $350.00 on e-bay make the change. You will not regret it. Light output is up majorly and the beam is far more uniform in intensity making it easier on the eyes.

Leave the dark side and see the light - HID is the way to GO!

I wasnt aware of a complete lamp replacement for the Adventra. The only LEGAL HID requires the complete lamp to be replaced not just the globe and ballast. They are also required to be self leveling. Be VERY carefull about these Ebay kits as they are not legal in Aust and can void your insurance if you have an accident. There is a reason why some kits are $1000+ and some are $350.

[sillyoldone]

I geuss that GM/HSV aren't aware of that as they offer HID lights as an option using the standard housings on the Adventra and Avalanche.

By the way the Adventra is self leveling as standard.

[seldo]

I geuss that GM/HSV aren't aware of that as they offer HID lights as an option using the standard housings on the Adventra and Avalanche.

.
Are you sure..? I think you'll find it is only driving lights ie spotties...;)

[XsPwr2W8]

Get a set of proper HID xenon arc bulbs of ebay and they make the projectors look like crap(probebly illegal but :rolleyes: ), be carefull though some people on the net will try sell you a set of bulbs saying they are xenon but they are nothing more than halogens painted blue, real HID's have ballests like those big factory lights and cost over $300 kor the kit, the bulbs have no fillament and use an arc.
Look at http://search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZkcli2QQssPageNameZSTRKQ 3aMEWAQ3aMESOI

[Gspot]

General Electric offers Xenon discharge kits. They come in both H11, and H4 (BiXenon) varieties. Visit www.bdaudio.com for more information.

I've tried the ebay SUPER HID kits and the bulb only lasted for 14 months. I would not recommend these kits as they are cheap. The GE kits are avaliable at Autobarn for around $650-$700 and have a lifetime of over 3000 hours.

[GHZ28]

Are you sure..? I think you'll find it is only driving lights ie spotties...;)

Someone had told me the same, and I looked up the Holden PV SIP and it only lists the driving lamps as HID in the HSV section. Standard Hella part number is even given, so you could save a bit and get direct from Hella.

That said, I have converted my Adventra LX8 to full HID, H9 and H11 having had HID Hella driving lamps for more than 12 months. It is awesome to drive with, and with the self levelling of the LX8 glare is not a problem for other drivers. You do need to be aware of the potential though, 35W HID is equivalent light output of about 150W Halogen, so consideration needs to be shown for other motorists.

Cheers,

gh

[jaskel]

so can you fit HID globes to these projectors?? i am just about to get a VY Calais....I always thought they wer HID...oh well....

[Gspot]

Unfortunately, Holden doesn't offer HIDs on the low beam. However, i've got a retrofitted HID kit in my VY and it works great. The glare is not an issue because of the projector design. It was difficult finding H11 kits as only GE offered these.

[Shane-o]

Just replaced my headlight and parker globes in my VY SS with Philips Crystal Vision $95 a set and it is the best thing I have done for this car!
Can see an extra 20-30mtr ahead and also instead of just projecting light in the single lane like old globes these project it wide beam over all 3 lanes hahaha.
The beauty of them is you no longer need high beams but having said that you can look directly at them and not get dazzled(Alien technology I reckon :) Unlike old yellow light globes which were dull to me driving yet blinding for oncoming traffic!
Also the White light makes the car look heaps better at night.
Well worth the investment for a 20-30 minute changeover(need to remove battery to change drivers side bulbs).

[gexenon]

Everyone who is interested in upgrading their headlights, please visit www.gexenon.com.au (http://www.gexenon.com.au)

Cheers:)

[gaz05]

I have just removed my Phillips Crystal Vision from my VY SS Series 1 and replaced them all with Phillips Vision Plus. I drive 400k a week at night and these lights are the best i have had to date. I have followed this forum from the start and after reading the tech section from the Daniel Stern website i decided to change them, the light has more distance and no bluey or fog like haze when reflecting off roadsigns etc and only $40 a pair and a much better light for highway use.

[chops]

Unfortunately those globes are unavailable for the H9 and H11 bulbs mentioned in this thread.

[gexenon]

H11 and H9 are avaliable in GE XENON range, visit www.gexenon.com.au (http://www.bdaudio.com/GE/products_specifications.htm)

[jaskel]

Taken from the Daniel Stern Site;

http://dsl.torque.net/images/H9.jpg

H9 bulbs
These new single-filament 65w bulbs are rapidly gaining popularity amongst automakers for use primarily in high-beam headlamps, often in conjunction with H11 bulbs for the low beams. H9 is an extremely high output design (2100 lumens) with an extremely white light color. As with H8 and H11, these are currently tough to find in the aftermarket.
65w Osram or Narva: $12

[jaskel]

How come I notice that VZ projectors throw alot more dazzling colours than the VY projectors??

I have used Eurodesigns before with my old car and they give an awsome pure white light with a blue tinge but still very bright, why couldnt you run the same globes in h9 with projectors...they would give an awsome look and great light output thru projectors...anyone tried it??

Anyone got any pics looking head on at their car??

[seldo]

Taken from the Daniel Stern Site;



H9 bulbs
These new single-filament 65w bulbs are rapidly gaining popularity amongst automakers for use primarily in high-beam headlamps, often in conjunction with H11 bulbs for the low beams. H9 is an extremely high output design (2100 lumens) with an extremely white light color. As with H8 and H11, these are currently tough to find in the aftermarket.
65w Osram or Narva: $12
If you read the original post, this is exactly what I did - replaced the 55w H11 low-beam bulbs with these H9 65w hi beam units. The light difference is 2100 lumens vs 1350 with no detectable difference in glare. Or, if you want to go better again, fit a HID conversion like the GE kit (see separate thread). I'm currently endeavouring to try these but having a little difficulty in getting delivery...I'll keep you posted

[jaskel]

so anyone know why the VZ is a brighter and more colourful light output than Vy?

[seldo]

so anyone know why the VZ is a brighter and more colourful light output than Vy?
Are you sure that they are? Maybe just newer....:confused:

[jaskel]

yeah ive noticed a few...i see alot more red and blue colour from the VZ...alot more !!!

[jaskel]

has anyone tried the ultra white or arctic blue type H9 globes in the projectors??? Did they look ok?? I am thinking about trying them...

[seldo]

has anyone tried the ultra white or arctic blue type H9 globes in the projectors??? Did they look ok?? I am thinking about trying them...
Unless they are fresh on the market, I don't believe thay are avilable in H9/H11 yet...

[jaskel]

yes they are...but you have to get them from the USA, I am about to place an order for some on Ebay USA....

[seldo]

yes they are...but you have to get them from the USA, I am about to place an order for some on Ebay USA....
To save you the trouble and some money, if you are getting the blue ones I have a set done no more than 5hrs that I'd be happy to sell you. But I have to tell you that apart from looking...ermmm...blue, they are not worth a pincha as far as performance goes. They are rated at 80w vs the original 55w.

[jaskel]

ok ill take em...i wanna just see what they are like...you have a pm on the way ;)

[Maz]

I bought the white H9's imported them from america.

They are about 10% brighter than the H9 bulbs that we are talking about in this thread. However these are white with a blue tinge unlike the holden H9 which are still yellow.

seldo what brand bulbs do you have?

I imported the Nokya 7000k H9 bulbs and they were awesome.

When i rocked up at cruises with Nokya bulbs people asked if i had HID's and how where did i get them from lol.

The HID kit for the holdens look exactly the same as mine except are about 20% brighter again, and use less power.

[seldo]

Maz - the ones I imported from the US are AdvancedOptik by KDW. They are 80w 4000k. I hated them although if you like that blue look, they look good. I only used them a couple of times and pulled them out again and I'll happily sell them if anyone's interested. If you want performance, the H9 conversion here is a better thing. But if it's appearance you are after, these are the go.

[jaskel]

I just placed an order for 2 sets of H9 65w (projector and highbeam)and 1 set of H3 55w(fog lights) from the USAand I think they are the same brand as you say in your post MAZ, so I am very keen to have a look at how they apear thru the projector.

Did they throw alot of light on the road?? did they still flicker colours as you aproach cars like the current globes do??

Do you have any photos?? Thanks for the info ;)

[Maz]

The nokya bulbs still flicker the blue colour on the road. It does it way more now and actually flickers purple too now as the colour temperate has been raised from the "yellow-white-blue" range to the "white-blue-purple" range.

They Nokya bulbs will look VERY impressive as you drive past, everyone will look at your car expexcting to see a new BMW or Audi to drive past :cool:

seldo did you have 4000k H11 or H9's?

I've used 5200k H11's before and they were shit. Basically all the H11 bulbs are crap because they are only 55watt and have a metal cap at the end of the blocking the light, this would be fine on a reflector setup but not with projector headlights.

[seldo]

seldo did you have 4000k H11 or H9's?

I've used 5200k H11's before and they were shit. Basically all the H11 bulbs are crap because they are only 55watt and have a metal cap at the end of the blocking the light, this would be fine on a reflector setup but not with projector headlights.
The ones I tried were 80w 4000k.

[jaskel]

I ordered 2 sets of H9, so i will get the brightness and whiteness too....I will post pics when it is done.

[gexenon]

I imported the Nokya 7000k H9 bulbs and they were awesome.

Umm. did you know that Halogens only go upto 5,000K? i like to know where you got these "7000K" bulbs from.

[jaskel]

Its the light colour, there is new technology out in halogen with new gases etc...i will show you a pic of my globes when i get them and you will see the temp colour clear as day ;)

[gexenon]

Its the light colour, there is new technology out in halogen with new gases etc...i will show you a pic of my globes when i get them and you will see the temp colour clear as day ;)

Sorry to correct you but day light is 4,300K, not 7000K.

I know the globes you mean, there are lots of Halogen bulbs marked as XENON and some even have HID on them. The gases are the same but they paint the bulb blue to give a white/blue light. Even Hella does it. However, these are not really XENON HIDs. HIDs are gas discharge where as Halogens a filament.

The big problem with Halogen bulbs that are 5000K or over is the short life span. Even the best bulbs on the market last 150-200 hrs at best. The wattage of the bulb just reflects how much power it uses, not the lightoutput. If you are comparing a 4000K with a 4000K, higher wattages will put out more light, but if you are comparing 4000K to say 7000K, the 4000K will be much brigher at the same wattage. Lumens is much more accurate way of measuring lightoutput. Most reputable brands, Osram, Phillips, GE, Narva will quote these on their products.

[XsPwr2W8]

Don't bother with any hallogens, just get a set of propper HID's and you'l never look back. I have experimented with different temps now and 6,500K's are the best as they have the most visible loght spectrum, but only HID's can produce this coulor temp.

[gexenon]

I second that :) lol

[jaskel]

did you get the H9 or H11 HID??

[XsPwr2W8]

I use H4's but H9's & H11's are availible, I baught mine off ebay a few years ago before I found out that these kits were availible in australia.

And a question for GEXENON: Can you supply replacement bulbs for these kits? Ifso would they have the same wetherpak electrical conectors?

[gexenon]

I use H4's but H9's & H11's are availible, I baught mine off ebay a few years ago before I found out that these kits were availible in australia.

And a question for GEXENON: Can you supply replacement bulbs for these kits? Ifso would they have the same wetherpak electrical conectors?

Yes we can supply the lamps and they have the same wetherpak conectors. However, we can only give 1 yr warranty as they ballasts are not designed specificaly for GE XENONs. However, they will still work. Reliability i can't promise.

[jaskel]

so how much are they??

[jaskel]

here is some pics of the globes I put in my car today, I got these from the USA. I modded the lug on the globe to fit the projector and they work a treat.

They give a hell of alot more light on the road and surrounds and also throw a heap of great colours as well...Ill run these for a while and then get the HID but I am not sure if I should go 6000K or 8000K.

How much are these GE ones?? no one seems to want to give a price on the forum.

See them all here; http://photobucket.com/albums/v371/jaskel/Globes/

Drivers side has old, passenger has the new globe

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/jaskel/Globes/newandold.jpg

Closeup of the old globe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/jaskel/Globes/oldglobe.jpg

Closeup of the new globe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/jaskel/Globes/newglobe.jpg

New and old (with high beam added)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/jaskel/Globes/driversoriginals.jpg

The new lights on the garage door
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/jaskel/Globes/door.jpg

Old globes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/jaskel/Globes/oldglobe_hand.jpg

New Globes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/jaskel/Globes/newglobe_hand.jpg

The finished product, I love how it makes the high beams now look a dark blue when they are off...matches the black lights nicely.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/jaskel/Globes/final.jpg

The Modded globe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/jaskel/Globes/globe.jpg

[XsPwr2W8]

Jaskel
As I mentioned the 6000K have the most visible light spectrum and work the best, the higher the K value does not mean the higher the useable light output the bulb will have.

[jaskel]

yeah.. i think all the Audis and BMW run 6000K.....

6000K will have a nice white light with some blue in it??

[Wonky]

here is some pics of the globes I put in my car today, I got these from the USA. I modded the lug on the globe to fit the projector and they work a treat.

They give a hell of alot more light on the road and surrounds and also throw a heap of great colours as well...Ill run these for a while and then get the HID but I am not sure if I should go 6000K or 8000K.
Looks good jaskel!! :)

How much did the globes cost you and which eBay site? How much for shipping over here? Are they the Nokya 7000K as you told Maz that you thought they may have been a couple of weeks ago?

[jaskel]

nah not the ones maz was taking about...these are some american globe, cosyt me all up incl shipping 40USD for 4xH9 and 2x H3

Not a bad price at all.

[Wonky]

nah not the ones maz was taking about...these are some american globe, cosyt me all up incl shipping 40USD for 4xH9 and 2x H3

Not a bad price at all.
That's around A$55 - damned good (assuming they don't blow on you in no time flat)! I paid close to that for (Philips) H9's from a Holden dealer when I did Seldo's conversion but would be interested in trying some like yours or the Nokyas. What site/eBay shop did you get them from? Maz, what site did you get your Nokyas from?

[jaskel]

if they blow i get them replaced...LIFETIME Warranty...so I dont care if they blow. The 55 bucks was for 6 globes so a very good price indeed. These globes are common in the uSA like H4 is here, so they are very cheap compared to australia.

I got them from here;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BUICK-LaCROSSE-05-XENON-BULBS-H9-Hi-Beam_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6755QQitemZ4560519 271QQtcZphoto

[XsPwr2W8]

yeah.. i think all the Audis and BMW run 6000K.....

6000K will have a nice white light with some blue in it??


Yes the 6000K's are white with a touch of blue. It realy bounces of road markings well.

[jaskel]

got any pics at night?? looking at the lights and looking on the road?

thanks

[Wonky]

I got them from here;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BUICK-LaCROSSE-05-XENON-BULBS-H9-Hi-Beam_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6755QQitemZ4560519 271QQtcZphotoThanks Jaskel! :)

[jaskel]

no probs...ill wait till i have the car out at night and ill get some photos...but in underground carparks it looks nice and clear light on the ground

[OzMystic]

If you read the original post, this is exactly what I did - replaced the 55w H11 low-beam bulbs with these H9 65w hi beam units. The light difference is 2100 lumens vs 1350 with no detectable difference in glare. Or, if you want to go better again, fit a HID conversion like the GE kit (see separate thread). I'm currently endeavouring to try these but having a little difficulty in getting delivery...I'll keep you posted

Seldo

Any update to this??

Cheers
Jon

[jaskel]

yeah i am exactly the same as Seldo, I have messaged the guy who sells the GE HID and no reply, i must have sent 4 or 5 messages to him....all I wanna know is the price and that will depend on if i get them or not...

[seldo]

I have now received my kit and it's due to be fitted next week. I think you'll find you are looking at $695 and that they are available through Autobarn but you could try going direct to the distributors who are www.gexenon.com.au (see sponsors' button above) or you can try li@bdaudio.com

[jaskel]

yep tried that and no luck.


Make sure you post some pics when fitted...

[gexenon]

Sorry, our servers have been down last week and the weekend. All is back up and running. You should be able to access the website now. For anyone who is interested, we have dealers who are running specials at the moment. Contact us and find out where. They can also install them for you. Very important to get them installed at authorised dealers as you get a 2yr warranty.

[jaskel]

so why wont you tell us the price?

[lxhatch]

Hi Jaskel,
just wondering about the bulbs you bought from o/s - Are you still happy with them? Just wondering why you are now chasing up the gexenon?
If u are happy with the Canadian ones, I might get them too.

[jaskel]

yeah i am really happy with them...I dont know about getting the GE HID globes as they are fairly expensive and I am fairly happy with the current globes... i really cant justify 700 bucks on globes.

[OzMystic]

I have now received my kit and it's due to be fitted next week. I think you'll find you are looking at $695 and that they are available through Autobarn but you could try going direct to the distributors who are www.gexenon.com.au (see sponsors' button above) or you can try li@bdaudio.com

Dave

Any update on this. Have you had them fitted?

Jon

[seldo]

Dave

Any update on this. Have you had them fitted?

Jon
Yes Jon. I had them fitted Monday and they are fantastic. There was a fair bit of stuffing around in the fitting since it's pretty crowded in there, but the end result is really excellent. See further comments in the GE Xenon sponsored thread :)

[vpsenator]

Seldo,

Your a legend, I changed my globes today from the 55 to 65, much brighter and this is in the day. Are you or is anyone aware if I have to re align the lights, if I dont great but if I do how on earth is this done.

Cheers

Dave

[seldo]

Seldo,

Your a legend, I changed my globes today from the 55 to 65, much brighter and this is in the day. Are you or is anyone aware if I have to re align the lights, if I dont great but if I do how on earth is this done.

Cheers

Dave
No mate - you shouldn't have to realign them unless you had them really high before. If you open the bonnet and look at the top of the headlights there is a little grey plastic tag where the plastic body joins the glass. On this tag you will see up/down / L/R and a couple of arrows pointing to the adjuster which is a nylon phillips-head screw on the side of the head-light body. Just line it up in front of a wall or garage door and turn the screw with the lights turned on and you will soon see which way gives you up and down. But don't make them too high - there's nothing worse than being glared by ill-adjusted lights. Glad you are happy with the change - it's sure worth-while isn't it? :)

[vpsenator]

It is well worth it, even my neighbour is impresses is is going to change is Monaro.

[XsPwr2W8]

Just installed H1 HID's aswell as the H4's, Awesome... Stop messing around with this halogen rubbish

[seldo]

Just installed H1 HID's aswell as the H4's, Awesome... Stop messing around with this halogen rubbish
Can't argue there - I've also just fitted HIDs, but there's also a fair bit of difference from $50 and DIY, to $695 plus fitting...

[XsPwr2W8]

Can't argue there - I've also just fitted HIDs, but there's also a fair bit of difference from $50 and DIY, to $695 plus fitting...

True True.. But Ebay can be a mans best friend. Picked up my set of H1's for $260 of a shop in mooralbark and my H4's for $220 from hongkong. Install is easy only takes about 1-2 hours including trying to work out holdens stupid negative switching system.

Keep an eye on these if your after a set: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4589269953&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[seldo]

True True.. But Ebay can be a mans best friend. Picked up my set of H1's for $260 of a shop in mooralbark and my H4's for $220 from hongkong. Install is easy only takes about 1-2 hours including trying to work out holdens stupid negative switching system.

Yeah, the way they have the lights constantly powered and the earth switched is a real trick. I decided that I wasn't ready to burn the car yet so had them fitted by a sparky...;)

[KeenGolfer]

Just read the entire thread, unfortunately my VY SS doesn't have projector :(

So what is the best bulb upgrade (under $100) for us non-projector cars? Somene mentioned the Philips Crystal Vision. Is this the go? Thanks.

[XsPwr2W8]

Yeah for non HID IMO the philips crystal vision seems to produce the most clearest white light i have seen with out just painting the bulb blue.

[seldo]

Yeah for non HID IMO the philips crystal vision seems to produce the most clearest white light i have seen with out just painting the bulb blue.
I've tried the blue bulbs - in a word..."Don't". Not worth a pincha... I believe that the Phillips crystal Vision are the go

[gexenon]

Phillips Cristals are good, only bad thing is the shorter life span due to the high K rating. They will last around 150-200 hours so if you do alot of night driving, go HID. Also, they don't work very well in the VY-VZ projector headlights. This is due to holden's bad headlight design rather than the bulb.

[Wonky]

Yeah for non HID IMO the philips crystal vision seems to produce the most clearest white light i have seen with out just painting the bulb blue.I just got some (blue) globes from the US site Jaskel got his from (see earlier in thread). Quite inexpensive, approx $A100 for 4 pair H11 and 2 pair H3 for foggies (friend's car too), including shipping.

Haven't had a really good night (not wet or full moon) to really see how they are but first impressions are very white light (as Jaskel's pics show). However, they don't seem as even as the H11's I got from Holden to put in low beam for Seldo's conversion.

[gexenon]

I just got some (blue) globes from the US site Jaskel got his from (see earlier in thread). Quite inexpensive, approx $A100 for 4 pair H11 and 2 pair H3 for foggies (friend's car too), including shipping.

Haven't had a really good night (not wet or full moon) to really see how they are but first impressions are very white light (as Jaskel's pics show). However, they don't seem as even as the H11's I got from Holden to put in low beam for Seldo's conversion.

Why do you need a good night to judge the effectiveness of the light? Good lighting should perform under all conditions.

We also do GE Halogen bulbs and do not recommend anything over 4000K in the Halogens. Over this colour temp, the life time of some of the best bulbs are only 50-80 hours if your lucky, some break after 3-4 weeks of normal use (1/2 hour a day). The filament gets too hot and will snap under the constant viabration of driving. The blue coating cuts certain frequencies which makes the light appear white/bluish. However, light output and performance is decreased. They can also damage some plastic light housings due to heat (would not recommend using HALOGEN bulbs of over 4000K in projector housing (VY-VZ) as it is very small inside and gets hot very quickly and, especially anything over 55W) Anything under 4000K however will be ok in Halogen. Life time can vary from a fee weeks (cheap no name brands) or 200-400 hours (Osram, Phillips, GE, Hella, Narva).

[jaskel]

really?? I ran these same sorta globes in my last 2 cars, thats approx 3.5 years of constant use ;)

[gexenon]

really?? I ran these same sorta globes in my last 2 cars, thats approx 3.5 years of constant use ;)

what K temp were they? over 4000K? Do you use them for more than 30min every day?

[Wonky]

Why do you need a good night to judge the effectiveness of the light? Good lighting should perform under all conditions. Yeah, agreed but I was disappointed in their output and guess I was hoping I would be more impressed under different conditions.


The blue coating cuts certain frequencies which makes the light appear white/bluish. However, light output and performance is decreased.Would have to agree.

[jaskel]

really, I didnt see any drop in output......

GE...Yes i have my lights on most of the day....why? I have run these sort of lights for many years and never had a problem yet.

[Wonky]

really, I didnt see any drop in output......Probably not much different to standard and certainly much whiter, but I had previously done Seldo's H11 conversion which made a big difference and these 55W H11's aren't as good - quite patchy comparatively. Don't worry, I'm certainly not blaming you for my decision to get them. I decided it was worth a try and only cost me about $50 for 2 sets H11's and 1 set H3's for my car, so not exactly a fortune spent on the experiment. :)

[jaskel]

sweet...I will still get some HID down the track tho ;)

[gexenon]

really, I didnt see any drop in output......

GE...Yes i have my lights on most of the day....why? I have run these sort of lights for many years and never had a problem yet.

What brand are they? Sounds like some good quality bulbs. We've never had a pair of blue coated Halogens go for more than 1 year of continuous use. The reason being that the filament gets hotter as K temp increase. When you are driving around, the filament bounces around due to road viabrations and the hotter the filament, the quicker it breaks.

Also, there is a decrease in light output, unless you are compensating with a high wattage bulb (100W instead of 50W). I'm sure there is no bulb on the market which produces more light at a higher K than 4300K.

[Wonky]

We've never had a pair of blue coated Halogens go for more than 1 year of continuous use.Realised tonight that one of mine from the USA has blown already! 12 days max though now I think of it, it was probably gone Friday (last time I drove it at night)......... :(

Apart from one 1 hour trip back from Calder the previous Fri night (under an hour) it only gets 10 mins in dark on work nights. So, the blown one probably did 2 hours. :mad: Think I'll go back to the Holden H11's in high and low beams because even though they didn't look as white they actually gave a better spread and depth.

[jaskel]

hmm...mine are going strong...im thinking you may have touched the glass with your finger ;)

Just email the guy, he should replace it.

Jas

[Wonky]

hmm...mine are going strong...im thinking you may have touched the glass with your finger ;)

Just email the guy, he should replace it.

JasYeah, know where you're coming from but they were done by the auto elec who did (a modified form of) Seldo's conversion for me on the previous car and this one and I would think he knows what the deal is with avoiding touching them.

I was already debating whether to put the Holden H11's back in high and low beams for the better driveability and I think this just made up my mind for me! Besides, whilst the guy may replace it as his site says, I am sure he won't pay for shipping from the US.

[seldo]

I think I may have mentioned in an early post that I have already been down the track of these blue coated 85w globes and IMHO they are not worth a pincha...I'd prefer the H11 conversion or if you want to step up another level go to the Xenon conversion

[gexenon]

Realised tonight that one of mine from the USA has blown already! 12 days max though now I think of it, it was probably gone Friday (last time I drove it at night)......... :(

Apart from one 1 hour trip back from Calder the previous Fri night (under an hour) it only gets 10 mins in dark on work nights. So, the blown one probably did 2 hours. :mad: Think I'll go back to the Holden H11's in high and low beams because even though they didn't look as white they actually gave a better spread and depth.

Thats just bad luck. Bulb coated bulbs do not last long. Some times you get lucky and they go for a while but generally they will not last longer than 6 months with average usage.

[seldo]

I have recently gone one step better again and have fitted a GE Xenon HID kit and I'm really pleased with the result.
I took some before and after photos but they show the improvement from my H9/H11 upgraded lights and not from the standard set-up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/mongy/carxenon003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/mongy/carxenon001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/mongy/carxenon004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/mongy/carxenon005.jpg

[VX2VESS]

those pictures say it all. big difference.

look rather bright, get ppl flashing you much?

[seldo]

those pictures say it all. big difference.

look rather bright, get ppl flashing you much?
No, not even once so far. But if you look at the shot against the wall you can see that it still has the very sharp cut-off which prevents glaring other cars.

[gexenon]

Thanx for posting up the pics Seldo. I'll try and get some of our pictures up too.

[Brayden's dad]

Seldo,

I've just read this whole thread. What made you decide to go for the HID's? I was reading post after post where you were happy with the H9/H11 changeout, then all of a sudden you were installing the HID's. Please don't think I'm having a go at you, I'm just wondering what made you change your mind.

So, is it worth the $700 difference? I can see from the pictures the difference for myself & it is outstanding. I guess I probably just answered the question for you.

gexenon,

I'm all for supporting sponsors of this site. So, for $700 does that do all the lights on my Monaro (L/B, H/B, parkers, foggys) or just the low beam?

This is probably a stupid question, but to get the 2 year warranty you are talking about, does the installation have to be done by an auto electrician or can I (licensed electrician) do it myself?

Troy.

[seldo]

The Xenon conversion is as much of an improvement over the H9 conversion as the H9 is over the H11. Is it worth $700? Good question, but I've always liked to see where I am going at night, so it is for me. Plus my eyesight is not that flash so i need all the help i can get...;)
I would think that any sparky should be able to fit them - it's just a bit of a trick because the standard lights are permanently powered and the earth is switched and also you need to ignore the special written instructions in the kit which tells you to make sure that you connect the red wire to negative and the black wire to positive..... It doesn't do any damage if you connect them arse-about but they just don't work. I also had an issue where the high voltage was leaking through the insulation on the standard wiring

[Brayden's dad]

So Seldo, what do you get for $700. I am assuming it is only for low beam as there is only one set of ballasts.

If that is the case, how do you find high beam goes given that H/B is quartz halogen?

Troy.

[seldo]

So Seldo, what do you get for $700. I am assuming it is only for low beam as there is only one set of ballasts.

If that is the case, how do you find high beam goes given that H/B is quartz halogen?

Troy.
Firstly, I didn't ever have a huge issue with the standard high-beam, it's just low-beam that's useless. And also, I do very little open-road driving where I would use high-beam, so it's not an issue for me. But, to answer your question, $700 gets you one pair of globes and ballasts which only does one pair of lights. If you want high-beam as well, get out the cheque-book. Another poster has fitted both high and low and reckons they are just the bee's knees - like day-light..

[BIGDAO]

Bought some of these globes today...will put them in maybe this weekend, given half a chance!

[jaskel]

holy crap Seldo...they look the goods...I think i will update to HID in the new year....definatly worth the $$, my mate reckons I have a problem with lights...he said I can seek treatment for my obsession..haha

I have been looking at alot of HID kits from the USA...I mean i can get a 6000K kit for under $300 AUD

What temp is yours??? in the head on pic they look 8000K but I am guessing you got 6000K

Cheers

[seldo]

Bought some of these globes today...will put them in maybe this weekend, given half a chance!
Which globes ? The H9s or the HIDs?

[BIGDAO]

Which globes ? The H9s or the HIDs?

Sorry Mr Seldo, the H9 globes...I probably should have said so.

Any more $50 mods I can do to my VZ?!

[seldo]

holy crap Seldo...they look the goods...I think i will update to HID in the new year....definatly worth the $$, my mate reckons I have a problem with lights...he said I can seek treatment for my obsession..haha

I have been looking at alot of HID kits from the USA...I mean i can get a 6000K kit for under $300 AUD

What temp is yours??? in the head on pic they look 8000K but I am guessing you got 6000K

Cheers
They are supposed to be 4300k, but I suspect they may be 6000k ... They are supposed to emit 3200 lumens which compares with 2100 lumens for the H9s and 1350 for the standard H11s. So that means there is an actual light output improvement of 137% over the standard original H11s and 52% better than the H9 conversion which is in itself a 55% improvement over the H11 originals..

[jaskel]

COOL...I THINK I (oops caps lock) will go the 6000K

[DTM_UTE]

Hi Buddy! u know the best way to upgrade your head light is to purchase a set of those HID lights upgrade for your car. it works really well , and it generate much more lights then stanard, i got my HID set abut 3 yrs ago cost me $800 and i think there is someone selling those light from ebay now for even $205 cheapest...for this price, i think HID is the only way to go! thankz.

[gexenon]

there is a major difference between GE HIDs and ebay HIDs.

- GEs put out over 3000 lumens where as ebay HIDs put out less than 2700. This is due to the QUARTZ glass that is used in manufacturing

- Second, the focus on GEs are perfect. As you can see from SELDO's picture, the beams go exactly where they are meant to go. They put out useful light which lights up the road ahead. Ebay HIDs are lesser quality. They don't focus correctly and instead of putting light to the road, they just blind incoming traffic.

- GEs are all OEM quality. GM and FORD use them in the USA as standard equipment.

- GE HIDs last longer and remain white. you will find the lesser HIDs go yellow after 200 hours of use.

- GEs have UN cut and doesn't cause your headlights to go yellow and hazy.

- We provide full support for our products. If the kit is faulty, we send out a replacement immediately. Good luck tyring to get warranty on ebay, especially from sellers in Hong Kong.

- You pay for what you get. There are cheap Halogen bulb for $20 at the shops but they are not as good as the Phillips ones. Same applies to HID.

You will find that thses HIDs are much cheaper than Phillips, Narva or Phillips HIDs which retail for over $1500.

We provide the longest warranty on the market

For more details, go to http://www.gexenon.com.au

Any more questions, post them here or email us info@bdaudio.com

[seldo]

Having now used my GE HIDs for a couple of months I have to say that I'm delighted with them. It makes me wonder how I put up with the lack of performance from the OE set-up for so long. I'm very tempted to also get a kit for High-beam too.... Li?

[jaskel]

such a marketing load of crap GE, ive seen yours and also the ones on ebay and I can tell you on the road there is NO difference...if anything I have seen some from ebay that are brighter than GE at 1/3 the price of yours!!!!

[XsPwr2W8]

I have been using the Hongkkong Ebay HID's going on 3 years now with out a problem, still as bluish and bright as day one. The seller was also very helpfull with my problems when fitting them eventhough the problems were my own stupid fault. The light distribution problem is due to the standard lenses being used instead of the projector lenses as these lights are just somuch brighter than halogens.

[gexenon]

Having now used my GE HIDs for a couple of months I have to say that I'm delighted with them. It makes me wonder how I put up with the lack of performance from the OE set-up for so long. I'm very tempted to also get a kit for High-beam too.... Li?

Hi mate,

The result of putting HIDs in high beam is amazing. This is due to the alignment more than anything as you don't point the high beams to the ground.

You need H9 for the high beam. Shoot me an email and we can discuss further.

[gexenon]

such a marketing load of crap GE, ive seen yours and also the ones on ebay and I can tell you on the road there is NO difference...if anything I have seen some from ebay that are brighter than GE at 1/3 the price of yours!!!!

Where do you get your information from? do you have a set of GE HIDs?

[VY2R8Clubby]

I Will have to give it a go. Night Vision in the clubby is shocking, and the possum hunters (Driving Lights) are a neccessity so you can just see where you are going. Well done Seldo.

[Steakman]

Sorry Mr Seldo, the H9 globes...I probably should have said so.

Any more $50 mods I can do to my VZ?!

I also did the H9s some time back. Never looked back. Possibly the first thing anybody should do to their cars.

[Patroit]

I will be trying this out, thanks.

[seldo]

I will be trying this out, thanks.
We aim to please....your aim will help too ;)

[gexenon]

If your not sure what bulbs to buy for your pride & joy, we've done the hard work for you!!!

Here is a Lamp guide for all cars.

http://www.gexenon.com.au/GE/products_lampguide_main.htm

Listing of bulbs include:

- low beam
- high beam
- Fog lamp
- Indicators
- side indicators
- Park lamp
- rear indicators
- Brake lamp
- rear light
- rear fog lamp
- reverse lamp
- license plate lamp

You can find what bulbs fit your car by browsing though Make then Model.

As this is the first version, this guide may contain human and formating errors. If you do spot an error, please email me. webmaster@gexenon.com.au

Hope this proves helpful

[NNN1235]

I think I might change the lights in my car. I haven't used high beam in that long I forgot how bad my lows are.

[Patroit]

Just completed the changeover, Wow what a difference it makes! Worth while.

[MFX_R33]

I just put them in, great stuff!

[Maz]

My nokya 7000k halogen bulbs are still going strong.

Probably had over 20 people ask me what bulbs im running as my car looks like a new bmw m3 coming towards you. Also visability is better than the stock bulbs and similar to using the yellow highbeam bulbs.

Cant complain for only $30.

[CV8-RO]

MAZ,
Where can we get these from?

[jaskel]

ebay in the USA have heaps of them

[CV8-RO]

Thanks jaskel

[Maz]

Yep from ebay.

Clocked up well over 100hours with the headlights on, look brilliant and cost me $30.

No need to spend $400 on a HID kit that puts out 10% more light, complete waste of money

[seldo]

Yep from ebay.

Clocked up well over 100hours with the headlights on, look brilliant and cost me $30.

No need to spend $400 on a HID kit that puts out 10% more light, complete waste of money
..well...never let the facts get in the way of a good story... H9 gives 1350 lumens, H11 gives 2100 lumens which is a 55% improvement, and HID gives 3200 lumens which is a 137% improvement over standard H9, or 52% over the H11 upgrade. So ..I guess that's roughly only 10% ...isn't it..?? :doh:

[Black VU SS ute]

i've just put the vz monaro front end on my car, is the low beam a h9, or h11. also the conversion you's are doing to the h9 is that for the low beams or the high beams?

[57NIT]

I know this thread is for projector headlights, but I assume that a HID kit can be installed into a VX SS? Does anyone think that because they are a normal headlight assembly, having a HID bulb will startle other road users?

[XsPwr2W8]

I know this thread is for projector headlights, but I assume that a HID kit can be installed into a VX SS? Does anyone think that because they are a normal headlight assembly, having a HID bulb will startle other road users?

Yes a kit can be fitted to a VXss, and yes I do get a few flashes from other drivers but then again other people have said their not that bad.

[seldo]

i've just put the vz monaro front end on my car, is the low beam a h9, or h11. also the conversion you's are doing to the h9 is that for the low beams or the high beams?The standard set-up is H9 hi, H11 low. The cheap easy conversion is to fit the H9s to low beam as well. See post #1. In my last post #237 just below, I got them arse-about...but I was quite late and was rushing out the door...;)

[GHZ28]

Yes a kit can be fitted to a VXss, and yes I do get a few flashes from other drivers but then again other people have said their not that bad.

And I have been told that to comply with regulations, HID lamps require self levelling suspension or lights. Now for Statesman, Adventra LX etc. that is covered, but normal sedans and utes do not have the self levelling.

Most European cars with HID have either self levelling, or adjustable from inside, headlamps.

gh

[Patroit]

Will look in to it ,thanks.

[jaskel]

I fitted a set of HID to my Calais on Saturday...MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE!! I will post some pics later for yall.

[jaskel]

ok, here are some pics...crappy camera so I will get some better ones soon...but man they make a difference on the road.

http://www.streamload.com/Stalkerlaser/Car/hid6.jpg
http://www.streamload.com/Stalkerlaser/Car/hid5.jpg
http://www.streamload.com/Stalkerlaser/Car/hid1.jpg
http://www.streamload.com/Stalkerlaser/Car/hid2.jpg
http://www.streamload.com/Stalkerlaser/Car/hid3.jpg

[CV8-RO]

Looks good jaskel.
Was it a big job?

[jaskel]

nah, 30 mins and it was done!

[whitessute]

just performed surgery on the vz ss, quick and easy, cant wait for it to get dark and take a ride

[v-comp]

Hey Seldo,
'Best $43 bucks I've spent for a long time!
I owe you one :bow:

[lautray]

So would something like http://cgi.ebay.com.au/XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H4-H7-H11-9005-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ4629512675QQcategoryZ102559QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem do well for aftermarket projectors for my vx ss? Looking at getting the 4300K kit. The bulbs are H1. Appears to be a complete kit with ballasts & all.

Help please.