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GEN III
02-02-2005, 01:18 PM
Rumor has it,

Apparently Skaife will be making a formal announcement soon (before the first round).
He will be reaping the financial rewards, taking a bigger role with HSV and focusing on Racing only.


Also apparently KRT (Kelly Racing Team) is now sponsored temporarily by HSV.
It appears HRT may be really pissed with this idea!

Also here’s Ingalls 2005 livery
http://members.optusnet.com.au/waygal/ingall.jpg

Looks boring if you ask me!

Cat755
02-02-2005, 01:30 PM
May look boring but with Ingall in it, it will never be boring :D

FPV GTHO
02-02-2005, 04:11 PM
Looks a bit sus Walkinshaw back in the picture with HRT

HRT Stroker
02-02-2005, 05:20 PM
Do we have a source for the rumour??? If Walkinshaw had finanacial issues a year ago, why buy it back now?

seldo
02-02-2005, 06:41 PM
Do we have a source for the rumour??? If Walkinshaw had finanacial issues a year ago, why buy it back now?
Maybe because Walkinshaw's companies had financial probs, but maybe not the canny Scot personally...

Zero5
03-02-2005, 08:56 AM
What a tangled wing we weave...

How many of these teams have ownership drama's? The whole HMS saga, Larry is having some trouble, I believe that there will be an investigation into FPR and Britek. Now Tom may be buying HRT back of Skaife.

This is rediculous we are interested in the racing not in these silly ownership issues, the whole Franchise system of owning teams needs to be overhauled.

mgygto
04-02-2005, 06:40 AM
Rumor has it,


Also apparently KRT (Kelly Racing Team) is now sponsored temporarily by HSV.
It appears HRT may be really pissed with this idea!



HSV have always sponsored KRT as well as HRT as well as driver sponsorships. As a fully funded team HRT would have no interest in the level of sponsorship from HSV for any other team and given that the HRT team owner (MS) works for HSV the rumour is even more ridiculous!!

OLS108
04-02-2005, 06:48 AM
i was under the impression Tom Walkinshaw was working for jaguar, which is owned by FORD. correct me if iam wrong tho guys :eek:

GEN III
04-02-2005, 09:02 AM
HSV have always sponsored KRT as well as HRT as well as driver sponsorships. As a fully funded team HRT would have no interest in the level of sponsorship from HSV for any other team and given that the HRT team owner (MS) works for HSV the rumour is even more ridiculous!!


Ridiculous, well you can eat your words when I'm proved right!
The car will be "fully" sponserd by HSV I stress FULLY. Not just a little logo stuck on the back of the car. This KRT car will carry full size images of the HSV logo down the sides, bonnet and wing.

http://matticooper.customer.netspace.net.au/hsv05.jpg
Source: Auto Action #1125
I stress this is an Artist's impression of the KRT 05 entry.

Why would it be that HRT are pissed. Because they are the Holden factory team and there main driver is the face of HSV, tell me why the Holden Racing Team wouldnt be pissed with a car taking one of there main and longest running sponsers. Yes I know HRT have HSV on there the car but the size of advertising is minimal.

Aparrently the HRT and KRT teams have found some way that they can be fully sponserd buy HSV though it is not a perminant solution to there long term sponsership. This has allways been pushed buy Walkinshaw to have a V8 Supercar advertise HSV soley and HRT have been the one's stopping it.

But then again I may be wrong and 1000 other people, :booty: but I doubt it!


For the people who think it is there job to prove me wrong, :box: I am not going off the information I have read in this magazine or picture.

GEN III
04-02-2005, 09:32 AM
Maybe because Walkinshaw's companies had financial probs, but maybe not the canny Scot personally...


You are right. The man has never, not had any money. It is not confirmed but he will "personally" purchase HRT. There will be no TWR.




Looks a bit sus Walkinshaw back in the picture with HRT

Most loyal red team fans are too blind to see it but I don’t think he was ever out of the picture. Apparently Skaife was to own run HRT for a contract period of 10 years, however the contract is open to interpretation. This whole debacle has always seemed fishy especially on paper.



Do we have a source for the rumor??? If Walkinshaw had financial issues a year ago, why buy it back now?


Are you shore it was actually him personally that had the financial problems or TWR. You know how rich people are they can always pull money out of somewhere. Heck even Donald Trump filed for Bankruptcy and look where he is, his never not had money personally.

mgygto
04-02-2005, 01:23 PM
Why would it be that HRT are pissed. Because they are the Holden factory team and there main driver is the face of HSV, tell me why the Holden Racing Team wouldnt be pissed with a car taking one of there main and longest running sponsers. Yes I know HRT have HSV on there the car but the size of advertising is minimal.




long on rumour , short on fact.

The HSV sponsorship of HRT hasn't diminished this year , the factory backing for HRT hasn't changed this year, the employment of MS with HSV hasn't changed this year.

So tell us who is it in HRT that is "pissed"????

Devil CV8
04-02-2005, 04:41 PM
Ridiculous, well you can eat your words when I'm proved right!
The car will be "fully" sponserd by HSV I stress FULLY. Not just a little logo stuck on the back of the car. This KRT car will carry full size images of the HSV logo down the sides, bonnet and wing. In AA1125 the article goes on to say that Kelly conceded that the "proposed" rebranding of the team as HSV racing to help attract a big name sponsor was unlikely to happen.


For the people who think it is there job to prove me wrong, :box: I am not going off the information I have read in this magazine or picture. what info then????

GEN III
04-02-2005, 05:04 PM
long on rumour , short on fact.

The HSV sponsorship of HRT hasn't diminished this year , the factory backing for HRT hasn't changed this year, the employment of MS with HSV hasn't changed this year.

So tell us who is it in HRT that is "pissed"????


Did I say HSV didnt sponser HRT anymore? NO!

FFS get off you high horse, will see who's right when the announcement is made.

GEN III
04-02-2005, 05:10 PM
Look I am giving you guy's info on what is the most likely scenario to happen it's not based on fact, infact I started the thread stating "Rumor has it".
I believe the rumor is true and so do the fold at v8central and the chaps who are close to SBR follow a link in the forum it's there somewhere.
Half the guy's in one forum are transporter drivers. They know a little more then you blokes!
I'm not going to sit here and justify my belief, it's up to you to believe it or find out for yourself.

I supose the pictures of ingalls car are some big conspiriacy aswell huh!

I wont waste my time here anymore.

mgygto
04-02-2005, 06:10 PM
I wont waste my time here anymore.

aw shucks .... no need to take your bat and ball and go home! Funnily enough everybody knows everything that happens right? yes you did say it was a rumor but then did nothing to back it up!

ps: did you hear the rumor that Ingall is replacing Kelly at HRT?

Devil CV8
04-02-2005, 06:58 PM
ps: did you hear the rumor that Ingall is replacing Kelly at HRT?
I remember seeing that on a forum somewhere...... :lol: thats right, it was in the post above mine..

mgygto
04-02-2005, 07:24 PM
I remember seeing that on a forum somewhere...... :lol: thats right, it was in the post above mine..
.......... :lol:

Devil CV8
04-02-2005, 08:55 PM
.......... :lol:
best way to get rumours going...used to enjoy starting the same rumour off on 2 different paths, and when the same person hears the same rumour via 2 different people, they think it fact...although some rumours (actually more what I thought would happen) did come true.....

Rorym
13-02-2005, 06:40 PM
My understanding was that Tom was bankrupt as a director of his companies. The laws in UK are the same as here so I don't see where he can buy anything. 7 years etc etc. I will run with the driver thing, except the drivers at Dunlop ( and most of them for that matter)knew stuff all so made it up to get some chatter happening. It used to be called pit lane BS..Good to see it hasnt changed in 20 years.
R

jeff3205
04-03-2005, 12:01 AM
i was under the impression Tom Walkinshaw was working for jaguar, which is owned by FORD. correct me if iam wrong tho guys :eek:

Ford sold the Jaguar team last year - is now Red Bull Racing.