Stolen key - what now?

[lm2002]

My house was broken in to yesterday while I was out, and in addition to ransacking the place the thieving pr1cks found and stole the spare key for my Maloo (VY2 R8).

:mad:

The dealers are closed today for Easter, and the Holden/HSV assistance people aren't any help. Does anyone know whether the remaining remote can be recoded to make the stolen one useless? Ideally I'd also like to see the ignition and door key and all the barrels changed ... does anyone know what's involved there - is this a physical change or can it be done with programming?

Alternatively, I was thinking of changing the drivers side door handle somehow to delete the key barrel on that side. Does anybody have a part code for a Pontiac GTO RHS door handle, by any chance?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

LM

[pah]

Sleep in your car mate!

I'd tell the cops because you can expect another visit. They didn't take that key to put on their mantel piece.

Call your Insurance Co. and ask them for advice.

Disable the car maybe? The computer under the overflow recovery bottle is apparently easy to remove. Also easy to fit another one too so don't rely on that as a sure-fire anti theft fix.

Spend a couple of hundred $ on a personal safe after you get over this sarga. That's where you keep the spare HSV keys. Gun shops sell nice big safes that can be used to store a number of household valuables. Horsley Park Gun shop in Sydney sells nice big safes. There will be a gun shop in Brissie that can help you.



PAH

[HSVREDSLED]

Sorry to hear about the stolen key, and your house getting trashed. Im not sure about the codes and keys, but my advice is to disable the car by other means until you get it to a dealer. Clublock/pulled fuses/battery, remove wheel, anything you can think of. It may cost you some $$$ to get rectified, and maybe you can make it part of the insurance claim?? (Insurance companies are genuinely caring and understanding aren't they?) :rolleyes:

[pah]

I'd recommend taking your car to another location but make sure you're not followed.

if it was my car, I'd be sticking with it mate. You can't leave your house if it's been broken into, so you can't take off for a holiday over Easter.

If you can't lock the car up in a garage, I'd be sleeping in the car - no joke! Even if the car is locked up in the garage, I'd be out in the garage on a camp matress. Do you play baseball? Do you have a bat?

These guys might be professional thieves. Don't under-estimate them. They may carry a range of parts. I've heard of WRX thieves carrying their own computer to install to get around the anti-theft system. It's easy enough for them to carry a spare wheel or a spare computer.






PAH

[Ralph1]

Sorry to hear about the break-in, yes remove your battery, remove all 4 wheels, if you can store it at another location, be wary as they may come back and try for the stereo, or be real pricks and just trash the interior for the hell of it. That is the mentality of the clowns these days.

If you cant remove it from your normal place of residence SLEEP NEAR IT, and watch it after you change the key as these clowns will still come back try to access the vehicle and may trash it if they can't get in. :box:

[Mozz]

I concur with comments above - get advice from your insurance company - both car and house if you have separate policies and also get it right away from your house many kilometres away and out of sight for this weekend till you can sort a solution (and make sure you aren't followed).

I would suggest if they have taken the time to steal the key - they or their mate/s will be back particularly if they know the key is to a nice shiny HSV (but they might not know this - run of the mill break in of a house, they haven't done any surveillance, thus they might think the key is for a stock model commodore).

Let us know how it works out.

[georgec]

Had the same problem with a VS Clubsport. I think you will find you have to get the BCM replaced. In addition, since HSV now has its ISS immobiliser integrated with the key, rather than being a separate component, this may also require some work. In the meantime you could take off the rotor or plug lead to disable it.

[Devil CV8]

plenty of good suggestions above.... do not leave your car alone until you get it rekeyed, which I beleive will cost a bit of $$$

edit: as you know they will come back, probably late at night over easter,,,,, have a few mates sneak over for a game of baseball... tell them to bring their bats. take turns keeping a discreet eye on the car, and if someone appears, have everyone invite them in for a game..mwahahahahaha

[Haroc]

Any keycut place can change the keylocks for a resonable fee, i had to get my ignition changed to match the doors and boot etc after the old barrel broke, the electrical side of things however.. Holden may be able to disable the other keycode so it wont register with the car at all..
Dont need to say anymore, great sugestions been said already

[Hammer]

if your worried about it getting stolen disconnect your BCM fuse (so it cant be started) and disconnect your battery) :)

hope nothing happens to your ride dude.....

[Cat755]

I would suggest if they have taken the time to steal the key - they or their mate/s will be back particularly if they know the key is to a nice shiny HSV (but they might not know this - run of the mill break in of a house, they haven't done any surveillance, thus they might think the key is for a stock model commodore).

Let us know how it works out.

Unless they are particularly dumb they will realise the keys are for a HSV because they have the company logo on them.
Excellent suggestions already given but you should definately notify your insurance company ASAP. Makes it hard to go anywhere local and leave your car for an instant because it could be gone when you get back.
The wife keeps our spare key in her purse so that both sets are under our control at all times.

[lm2002]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the thoughts.

A bunch of other small but expensive stuff went missing too - little under $10k worth all up, playstation, jewelery, clothes etc. The neighbours spotted two kids leaving the place on foot with bags full of our stuff. They yelled at them and the kids ran off up the road. Makes me wonder whether they took it just cause "it might be worth something".

Somewhat good news is that the cops found lots of fingerprints left by the little sh1ts (thats right, they didn't bother wearing gloves) and get this, they have taken the bottle of orange juice they pinched from my fridge and drank while relaxing on my back step away for DNA testing.

Calm blue ocean calm blue ocean. But anyway the ute is my main concern right now.

The insurance company now know about it all, but weren't overly concerned about the key. I'm a little surprised to find that house and contents insurance doesn't cover replacement of any car keys or remotes that may be stolen. Definitely something to remember. The devil really is in the detail with these insurance policies... and I had obviously missed that bit. I guess sometimes you have to learn the hard way.

Anyhow, yep the ute is sleeping with me tonight. It is a special kind of love that my wife doesn't yet understand. She already thinks I listen to it more than her ....

What a great Easter. Have a safe one all.

Cheers,

LM

[clixanup]

Alternatively, I was thinking of changing the drivers side door handle somehow to delete the key barrel on that side. Does anybody have a part code for a Pontiac GTO RHS door handle, by any chance?

Use one from a sedan rear door.

[bigdog1971]

I'm a little surprised to find that house and contents insurance doesn't cover replacement of any car keys or remotes that may be stolen.

What about your car insurance? surely that would be in the books. Im sure you have an expensive excess but would the whole barrel, lock and key code change cost you a small fortune anyway?

[VX SS S2]

Very sorry to hear about the key and the house/contents...

The problem with the locking system on the Holdens/HSV is that if one key is lost/stolen and you are worried about the security of the car then you have to replace the bit that transmits the signal as well as getting 2 new keys.

The same thing would have to be done if both keys were destroyed as a second key needs to be coded from another key that is able to get into the car.

It's a pain in the ass... $44 approx for the black remote part and the metal key part together, and approx $22 for programming... however i think the transmitter costs a fair bit more...

My suggestion would be to wait for the police to look into it more... chances are you will get the key back anyway...

[lm2002]

What about your car insurance? surely that would be in the books. Im sure you have an expensive excess but would the whole barrel, lock and key code change cost you a small fortune anyway?

Yes, the car insurance covers it but only up to $300 total cost. With a car insurance excess of either $600 or $900 (don't remember which) there doesn't seem to be much point claiming. Some parts of these insurance policies leave your butt hanging right out in the breeze, so it seems.

LM

[HRT 8]

To give you some piece of mind, Ive been to hundreds of Burgs where people have had keys stolen. Some to the house itself and others to their cars in the garage.

In MY experience, I have never found a crook return to collect more goods, or the car. Im not saying that it hasnt happened, but in 6+ years Ive never come across it.

Hope that gives you some relief.

[lm2002]

All sorted now... for those interested, here's what's involved when replacing a lost key on a late model HSV:

1. A pair of new keys including transponders (can't "recode" existing transponder)
2. A new BCM computer
3. Recoding the door and ignition locks
4. About 3 hours labour

All up, roughly $800 at the local HSV dealer. Apparently lots more work than changing the same things with a Holden.

Happily enough, the cops actually caught the pair who burgled our house. Better yet, one of them was caught in the act passing a DJ's store card and is now in jail having fronted court the following day on 20 charges. The other one was with them and confessed to the burglary while being "interviewed", and I assume will be joining his mate. Couldn't think of a nicer place for them both.

Note to all - lock your spare keys away somewhere safe, not on top of the fridge like I did! It's an expensive lesson to learn.

LM

[CarlFST60L]

U have a PM re security