Stock STD VX V6 low end mods

[VX_Envy]

Hi All,

Im looking at pricing up some Lower end performance upgrades for a Stock STD VX V6 non-supercharged, maybe a few bolt-ons, so it doesnt affect my insurance, any ideas on mods, if im looking to spend around $4,500, without affecting my insurance, and still gaining KW's, like something like a MCAI, or a CAM or something like that, all your input would be muchly appreciated...

[BT18U]

Higher-ratio rockers are a good start either the FIT 1:9 (Approx $800) or Yella Terra 1:8 (approx $600) both prices are a guess without looking up prices but both are able to be done at home andare a good start for proven rwkw's the FIT have been dyno proven to give a few more Kw's but if you want a cam then don't worry about the rockers the cam will out do the rockers.....
Supercharged cold air intake off the VX supercharged model (If the part numbers are different from the N/A models) as it should be bigger intake.....

[DK-3800]

ive got a vx manual 6, and its got extractors, exhaust and YT 1.8:1 rockers, and FIT 81 degree thermostat, they have made a bit of a difference, but a tune would also help the computer adjust fuel ratios for the mods.
i was quoted $1100 for a tune with SAS in silverwater, will have to save the pennies.

[VX_Envy]

what i am really trying to achieve is about 200rwkw, with all bolt-on mods, that wont affect my insurance (im 17), so yeah, any idea as to what it would take, time/effort/dollars?

Any help will give me an insight as too what i am up for...

All reply's appreciated

[Swordie]

Try the Street Commodore Forum. There is a section dedicated to the V6.

SC Forum (http://www.streetcommodores.com.au/forum_3/index.php?)

I don't think $4500 will be enough to reach your target power of 200rwkw, you will need more than a 50% increase in power. Off the the top of my head the the max std power at the rear wheels would be 125.

[downbylaw]

[QUOTE=Swordie]Try the Street Commodore Forum. There is a section dedicated to the V6.
QUOTE]

Spot on mate i forgot this was ecotec.com.au

[Inter-ceptor]

what i am really trying to achieve is about 200rwkw, with all bolt-on mods, that wont affect my insurance (im 17), so yeah, any idea as to what it would take, time/effort/dollars?

Any help will give me an insight as too what i am up for...

All reply's appreciated


Dream on kid.

Grow up a bit, get full license, save enough for a V8 and then youll get your 200+RWkW. :lol:

[COOKIE!]

what i am really trying to achieve is about 200rwkw, with all bolt-on mods, that wont affect my insurance (im 17), so yeah, any idea as to what it would take, time/effort/dollars?

Any help will give me an insight as too what i am up for...

All reply's appreciated



200rwkw W.T.F


at the F1 dyno day the best V6 ran 190odd rwkw and has a supercharger, Cam, Chip,Zaust and others Mate your Dreaming getting that N/A



Im looking at pricing up some Lower end performance upgrades for a Stock STD VX V6 non-supercharged, maybe a few bolt-ons, so it doesnt affect my insurance, any ideas on mods, if im looking to spend around $4,500, without affecting my insurance, and still gaining KW's, like something like a MCAI, or a CAM or something like that, all your input would be muchly appreciated...


And a cam isnt bolt ons mate and unless the MCAI gives 90rwkw your gonna be out of luck.

[VX_Envy]

Well, lol, this is the place to inform me, i have no ****ing idea (as you can tell), so inform me all you like!!

Besides, im just looking for a car that looks good, sounds good, and drives well, i aint looking for a V6 to smash the 7second barrier, i just want something with torque low-end, so it feels good on take off, and i only ask for information to achieve that, instead of beatin' me down, how about you inform me, so i dont look like such a TOOL!

[Tez82]

Mate you can't hit those power figures with a V6 without spending heaps... Besides you keep saying how you don't want it to effect your insurance, you are aware most insurance companies start charing more once you change, heads, cam, exhaust, diff etc. If you choose not to let them know of these mods, then you wouldn't be insured etc. Best of keeping what you have for a while and put that money towards a V8 when you can afford it. Then you can get a stock gen3, just spend 700 bucks on an edit and get it above 200rwkw.... :)

[COOKIE!]

All righty then

One of the best mods you can do that wont increase your power but will make your car feel much more powerfull is the diff Change the gears to a higher ratio and go for a l.s.d centre.
You can get a cam and chip pack for around $1500 i think which will make the car go better as well. The MCAI is more for the ls1's there is a cold air intake you can get from holdenn all though from memory your car already has a good one. As mentioned anbove higher ratio rockere are good for a few HP.
Get a full exhaust done and there is your cash gone.

Then when you NEED more power drop a LS1 in there that will get ya rockin.
It had to be said.

Hope that helps you buddy

[VQST80]

Buy another 2 cylinders mate!

[bassplayer]

ok. from what i understand the v6 ecotec is not really the ideal foundation to start seriously modifying. & it all depends on how serious u want to go with it too. its not so much the $$ but there is only so far u can mod a L36 engine. the L67 factory supercharged engine (the 's') would be a better starting point to mod, so maybe consider an engine swap before spending $4500? on ur current engine. Im actually in a similar position & will be modifying my v6 but at this stage im going for full exhaust, CAI mods, 1.8 ratio yella terra roller rockers. the next step would prob be diff gears & a trans shift kit. & a chip in there somewhere as well. but remember if u think u may want to keep improving your cars performance in the future, theres only so much u can do to ur current engine, the factory s/c L67 would be a more competitive starting point.
good luck.
sam

[r8ls1]

learn how to drive in the shitter then when you can drive get a real car...

[blackjacknz]

firstly... i dont see the pont baggin the kid for asking the questions about V6's

but to answer you q's VX envy...you will be hard pressed to get 200rwkw out of yours...but you could look at COME's new stroker crank for the ecotec.

But id prob suggest you sell the car and either buy a super 6 (is you want to stay with a 6) or a V8. Ive spent about $6K on mine and im only at 206rwkw...but its pretty quick off the line (even with the stock 3.07 non lsd)..and deos the 1/4 in 13.14 secs. With the diff change to 3.73 it will drop it into the 12's...which is all im after for now.

To get any faster i'll prob start looking at either changing to turbo...or trade up to a LS1/2

so...it can be done....but best bet is with the super6 motor.

[Swordie]

The V6 is not really worth spending heaps of money on. As I mentioned in a previous post I would have a look at Street Commodore Forums, there is heaps of info on the 6 there. If you want a quick 6 get something like a SV6 and use the $4,500 to pay towards the extra interest on your loan.


The best way to reach 0-100 in under 7 sec with $4,500 is buy a motor bike <joke>.

[VX_Envy]

One of the best mods you can do that wont increase your power but will make your car feel much more powerfull is the diff Change the gears to a higher ratio and go for a l.s.d centre.
You can get a cam and chip pack for around $1500 i think which will make the car go better as well.

Thank you for that iwantahsv, that is really what i am looking for, not criticism, information, those are probably the only mods im going to put into my V6, coz it is going to be my Audio-Visual car, im looking at a 1974 Holden HQ Monaro, and dropping a 350-427 in it, then a Blower later on, once i get used to the power, but yeah, thanx for the input...

Thank you Blackjacknz, somehow i became the center of a major bagging session, but thanx

[Inter-ceptor]

Thank you for that iwantahsv, that is really what i am looking for, not criticism, information, those are probably the only mods im going to put into my V6, coz it is going to be my Audio-Visual car, im looking at a 1974 Holden HQ Monaro, and dropping a 350-427 in it, then a Blower later on, once i get used to the power, but yeah, thanx for the input...

Thank you Blackjacknz, somehow i became the center of a major bagging session, but thanx
Dude, no offence but you came on here without ANY knowledge what so ever and get all pissy about some guys giving you shit for asking retarded questions. You want advice, learn to take criticism as well.

Save up for a V8, thats what I am doing at the moment.

[paul05]

vx envy,just do what you want ,not what everyone who thinks they now wants.if you buy a ls1 then don't forget and ask for the complementry engine rebuild as you leave the showroom :lol: something you dont have to worry about with the buick. :eek:

[MarkH]

I wouldn't worry about looking like a tool mate, there's a couple of blokes on here that have you beaten in that regard. Good luck with whatever it is you decide to do.

[Swordie]

I don't think anyone was deliberately having a go at you. In there own way they are trying to help. Whether you like the answers you are given that’s your choice.

[VX_Envy]

oh well, its all good anyway, i cant be bothered getting caught up in all this, theres just no point, so yeah, thanx for all your advice guys, but i think my HQ will be the 10second beast, lol, and my VX will be Audio-Visual, thanx for all the input.

[Connolly]

Ok, having a V6 thats is about as worked as you can get it myself this is how I would do things on your budget. Firstly head and cam for starters forget the high ratio roller rockers if you want to upgrade just get the YT stealth 1.6's and run a cam instead. For this you will be looking at around 2.5k.

Next get a set of pacemaker extractors and a single 2.5" system with an LS1 cat. Probably looking at around 1k maybe a bit more.

Next 3.7 or 3.9 Lsd you cant beat it. Prices for this will vary depending on how good a unit you want to get and if you have an auto get a shift kit for it aswell.

Finish it off with a custom kalmaker tune. Around $800

Now these mods wont get you near 200rwkw but maybe around 160rwkw. Also mods that wont affect insurance dont really exist they are more of a myth. You can run the risk of not notifiying them but thats your decission. There is only one stroker setup that I know of which got just over 200rwkw in NA form but that was like a 15-20k build. The Come stroker setup is about to be release which will be around 180rwkw but it will cost somewhere in the 7-8k region. If you have your heart set on 200rwkw forced indcution is the only way, as stated before the L36 bottom end isn't the toughest but it will handle up to 10psi with no worries. For about 10k you could get a intercooled powerdyne setup which would make around 220rwkw or alternatively a turbo setup although these do not come in kit form and would generally cost more.

[VX_Envy]

It's an Auto, so would i be going for a 5/6-speed manual?
ill probably be looking at YT Stealth - Cam $2,500+
Pacemake extract $1,000
Kalmaker Tune $800
3.7/3.9 shift kit $3,000-$6,000?

[Connolly]

If you are not getting a cam then get the 1.8 yt stealths. Last I looked they were about $550 from vpw. Dont worry about the headwork if you not getting the cam.

Keep the auto and get a shift kit for it. Ring tranny places for prices

A 3.7 or 3.9 ratio lsd will set you back between 1 & 2 k.