Best Sounding Injected V8

[XR8kINGpIN]

Putting all bias aside, what do yall think is the best sounding injected V8 out of Ford / Holden.

My Choice
A) BOSS 5.4L 1st
B) LS1 4th
C) Ford 5.0L 3rd
D) Holden 5.0L 2nd
E) LS2 Do know havnt heard any yet so its 5th

I posted this on FordForums.com.au. The results where interesting, Ford leading of course but with strong support for the Holden 5.0L. Now I wanna see if it swings the other way being a majority of the members here own LS1s.......it's quite obvious it will, but still interested to see what yall comments are. It would be easier if I could post a poll but theres no option for it at the bottom of this page.

Here's the thread http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=6583&page=1 If your a member you can vote on the poll.

Please no comments FST57L. :D :D :D

[BLACK 346]

Best I have heard so far is CAMMED LS1 (not mine yet),
still yet to hear a decent sounding BOSS motor, I do
keep hearing how good they are supposed to sound though.

[jneil]

Actually it would be better to have a comparison sound clip of each as each exhaust/header/induction combo will lead to slightly different sounds from each engine.

It's a bit of a tuffy as I haven't heard the others on any sort of comparitive basis, usually it's just a brief cruise past me.

The 5.4 Boss sounds pretty good but I can't rank them for fear of my car blowing up!

[VKPWR]

nothing comes close to a HOT 304.. :cool:

[MNR-0]

You can make a stocker idle like a 427 if you know how. Difillipo exahusts make these LS1s sound pretty tough at idle too.

[Ghia351]

E) LS2 Do know havnt heard any yet so its 5th


The LS2 GTO sometimes driven by a local is the closest Holden I've heard to the stock Boss260/290 and it does sound far better then any LS1 I've ever heard, so much better and louder in fact to make me look round and see what it was.

[team illucid]

You can make a stocker idle like a 427 if you know how.

Do tell .. PM if necessary.

My List

A) BOSS 5.4L 3rd
B) LS1 4th
C) Ford 5.0L 2nd
D) Holden 5.0L 1st
E) LS2 5th

[BA$TAD]

1st BOSS
2nd Holden 5.0
3rd Windsor
4th LS2
5th LS1

[Thunder]

IMHO

It depends on who did the exhaust!!! :D
All of ours sound good :lol:

Not biased or anything :booty:

[Aus8]

For me stock vs stock

1.) Boss easily!
2.) 304 Holden
3.) Windsor
4.) LS2
5.) LS1

[stoney]

Do tell .. PM if necessary.

same :)

[MNR-0]

Do tell .. PM if necessary.

My List

A) BOSS 5.4L 3rd
B) LS1 4th
C) Ford 5.0L 2nd
D) Holden 5.0L 1st
E) LS2 5th
Its all about the correct balance of air, fuel and spark to match the idle characteristics you want. For example, a mate of mine loves the lumpy shake and thump of an old school V8 and was missing it even with his cammed 220/224 SS. With a bit of tweaking to stop stalling in reverse and chopping up the idle it now rocks side to side to an extent only a woman can truly appreciate. ;)

Its harder on a stocker to get a choppy idle due to higher cylinder pressures and improved culinder filling. This is the best comparison I could come up with. Sorry for the poor sound quality - I tried cleaning it up. The lumpier stock idle has a bit of sideways shake in it too. This took me all of 15 mins to program so no doubt could be made much more lumpier if I fiddled with the TB and such - and didn't have the stocker cam.

Stocker
http://users.bigpond.net.au/thompson/audio/stocker_idle_cleaned.WAV

Lumpier Idle
http://users.bigpond.net.au/thompson/audio/stocker_lopey_idle_cleaned.WAV

[gto015]

Id have to say my GTO sounded tuffer than any new ford v8 i have ever heard

[team illucid]

Its all about the correct balance of air, fuel and spark to match the idle characteristics you want. For example, a mate of mine loves the lumpy shake and thump of an old school V8 and was missing it even with his cammed 220/224 SS. With a bit of tweaking to stop stalling in reverse and chopping up the idle it now rocks side to side to an extent only a woman can truly appreciate. ;)

Its harder on a stocker to get a choppy idle due to higher cylinder pressures and improved culinder filling. This is the best comparison I could come up with. Sorry for the poor sound quality - I tried cleaning it up. The lumpier stock idle has a bit of sideways shake in it too. This took me all of 15 mins to program so no doubt could be made much more lumpier if I fiddled with the TB and such - and didn't have the stocker cam.

Stocker
http://users.bigpond.net.au/thompson/audio/stocker_idle_cleaned.WAV

Lumpier Idle
http://users.bigpond.net.au/thompson/audio/stocker_lopey_idle_cleaned.WAV

That actually sounds really good ... that is what I would wish mine to sound like at idle ... I agree with your mate about the old school sound ... my old beast used to rock from side to side and idle across a 300rpm range 650-950 ...

So how do you tune it like that, software wise??

cheers

[vh-holden]

up until this weekend the old holden 5L took the crown for me, but i hear jsttry's exhaust drive past, then nawdy's and truly appreciated the sound of a modified ls1. but when it comes to stock, holden 5L all the way

[BLACK 346]

up until this weekend the old holden 5L took the crown for me, but i hear jsttry's exhaust drive past, then nawdy's and truly appreciated the sound of a modified ls1. but when it comes to stock, holden 5L all the way

Would have thought NTAE would have the stand out exhaust with
his big cam? Should give you a fat a cat couldn't scratch.

[CarlFST60L]

Modified LS1 and Modified Holden 5.0L sound the best...

Boss, sounds good, but an LS1 with headers and exhaust with rear mufflers removed sounds phat, not that im biased ;)

[seedyrom]

Chalk up another for the Holden 5.0L

Its tough - without the artificial sound of the newer Boss motors

[spiv]

That actually sounds really good ... that is what I would wish mine to sound like at idle ... I agree with your mate about the old school sound ... my old beast used to rock from side to side and idle across a 300rpm range 650-950 ...

So how do you tune it like that, software wise??

cheers

That's not idling that called hunting. My stroker Group A engine idled with a strong lope at a rock steady 750 RPM all with a wade 1147C (235@50, 0.530", 110 LSA)

[huggies]

Id have to say my GTO sounded tuffer than any new ford v8 i have ever heard
Your GTO did Sound horn when u stomped on it :D

[CarlFST60L]

A slightly modified LS1 sounds tops :cool:

http://fastls1.homeftp.net/FST57L_Flatout.mpg

Not that im biased ;)

Hope you have good speakers, you know what its like when you see a V8 supercar on TV then you hear them in real life :D

[Danv8]

A slightly modified LS1 sounds tops :cool:

http://fastls1.homeftp.net/FST57L_Flatout.mpg

Not that im biased ;)

Hope you have good speakers, you know what its like when you see a V8 supercar on TV then you hear them in real life :D


Nice! :D :thumbsup:

[MNR-0]

That's not idling that called hunting. My stroker Group A engine idled with a strong lope at a rock steady 750 RPM all with a wade 1147C (235@50, 0.530", 110 LSA)
No hunting on my 2 samples. Idle was rock steady at 575RPM in gear for the lumpy attempt and 550RPM for the stocker. Hunting is caused by poor fuelling and airflow calibrations. Both idles my O2 sensors were nice and happy and the idle airflow was trimmed.

Even with a lumpy cam you can get a lumpy idle with no hunting. PM Divjak for proof.

The only trick I used in my samples was to simulate lumpy cams by forcing the spark undershoot and overshoot to insane values so that you get fluctuations of +/-6* or more timing at idle. Lowering the airflow will create more of a lope, as will lowering the base idle spark and consequent RPM. All in all, I tried to attack the cylinder fill at idle.

I have found that finding the base spark and RPM that the car WANTS to idle at produces the best results for stable idle. You can then modify from there, within reason, to modulate the note and idle characteristics to suit.

[team illucid]

That's not idling that called hunting. My stroker Group A engine idled with a strong lope at a rock steady 750 RPM all with a wade 1147C (235@50, 0.530", 110 LSA)

ok ... mine was a Heatseeker cam ... effective range was 4500-7500 rpm, not real sure on the other specs other to say it was fun to get off the line and go ... :)

[CarlFST60L]

RE above post of movie: (the server is only a crappy PC so you might have to wait a couple of minutes till someone gets off b4 u get ur go :cheers: )

[cyal8r]

1st Boss5.4
2nd Holden 304
3rd LS2
4th Winsor 5L
5th LS1

A Very sad result indeed.

[Danv8]

An old school 350 chev carb revving at 13000 rpm wins. :)

[XR8kINGpIN]

Modified LS1 and Modified Holden 5.0L sound the best...

Boss, sounds good, but an LS1 with headers and exhaust with rear mufflers removed sounds phat, not that im biased ;)

LS1 sounds not bad, but a Ford 5.0L with pacemaker headers, Single 2 1/2" exhaust and Supercat Hi-Flow muffler sounds unbelievable, not that Im biased. :lol:

[HRT Stroker]

My totally biased opinion is for a nice twin zorst of some Pacemaker try y's on a Holden 5.7 Stroker or 5.0 - Yummy. Add a trick cam and twin throttles and your in aural heaven!

That said I reckon the LS1 gets a rough rap, I've always loved the sound of a zorsted LS1 at 6,000 rpm........

The guy in the next workshop to mine has a BA GT with the full Herrod exhaust treatment - sounds nice but very similar to an LS1, just not as muffled..... :confused:

[Jphdg]

Had a Cammed BT1 pack VS V8.

The idle was stable, very deep and gee did it sound hot for what it was. It sounded very tough for a tiny 144rwkws and a lot of people were sure it was a 355 stroker with a decent cam. Yep, I have to say the 5.0l injected with cam sounded awesome. Hard to beat it.

The LS1 is up next for a nice cam and I will attempt to get it sounding as tough or tougher then the old 5.0 hopefully.

Will have to post a wav of it when its all done.
;)

[shayne]

[QUOTE=HRT Stroker]My totally biased opinion is for a nice twin zorst of some Pacemaker try y's on a Holden 5.7 Stroker or 5.0 - Yummy. Add a trick cam and twin throttles and your in aural heaven!
Yep I couldn't agree with you more HRT,I just got my stroker back lastweek
and even with off the shelf Genies and twin 2 1/4 pipes this thing sounds
mean as when it's idling :eek: I've even got me a VY HSV resinator to put
on ,so's I can keep the boy's in blue happy,as Ididn't realise how loud it would
be,especially with a 3500 stallie hanging off it!So yep defeniatly the Aussie
stroker(unbiased of course) :D .

[HSV,_I_GOT_ONE]

It seems like the 351 cleveland has been left out. Now that is one sweet sounding motor at full noise! :rofl:

[CarlFST60L]

LS1 sounds not bad :lol:

now i know who u r :box:

[JHP1]

My mates got a new BA GT it sounds good a little lumpy but I still thought that my 5.7 VY with twin 3" DiFillipo sounded better and have been told by others that its the best sounding V8 in town. But last week I had Phonsy fit one of his 11 second cam packages with an OTRCAI and f@#k me it rocks the car and now everywhere I go people ask me whats under the bonnet. Im wrapped close to 300 at the treads thanks phonsy :D

[Drizt]

modified LS1 sounds awesome.
Lexus V8's sound mad at full song.....
Audi V8's sound pretty damn good...

[VQ304]

A) Holden 5.7L
B) Holden 5.0L
C) Ford 5.0L
D) Boss
E) LS1/LS2 equal (don't know what the difference in sound is)

LS1's can sound pretty good, but they don't have that deep throbbing sound like 5.0L's do :drool:

[AndyP]

Still havent heard an unopened LS1 that sounded as good as my VX but I can at least admit that most of the BA's coming out of Herrod sound awesome....
The injected Holden V8's sound much better then a Gen3 with the same mods and a decent exhaust.

1st - BOSS
2nd - Holden V8
3rd - Windsor
4th - LS2
5th - LS1

[Gareth@Willall]

1. Holden 5.0Lt
2. Boss 5.4Lt
3. Cammed LS1
4. Stock LS1

[MNR-0]

I agree with GarethSS.

Holden 5.0L
Ford 5.4L
Holden 5.7L cammed
Holden 5.7L stock

But... in order of performance...

Holden 5.7L cammed
Holden 5.7L stock
Ford 5.4L
Holden 5.0L

Sound is not everything. ;)

[r8ls1]

11 second cam package with an OTRCAI and f@#k me it rocks the car and now everywhere I go people ask me whats under the bonnet. Im wrapped close to 300 at the treads :D
tell me about it. u should get to here u car standing out of the car at wOT going towards you. got too here mine the other day with new heads combo and orcai i sayd thinks it needs an exhaust :D but it had an exhaust

[JaseR8]

Just wait til you hear an LS2 with a decent exhaust - pure heaven :D

The sound is unlike any Chev motor I have heard before, basically sounds like a Boss 290 but with a much deeper bellow.....real nice.

[Bane]

Another vote for the Aussie 304.

The LS1 is a funny one, maybe because it's an alloy block or the firing order but they sound awful at idle and low revs. Once they get up around 4000 RPM though they really come into there own and sound fantastic.

Just my 0.02.

[Danv8]

This is out of left field but what the hell

Detroit Diesel series 92 turbocharged V8 at full ball in a Ford semi trailer.

Can't beat a 2 cycle V8 diesel for sounds. :cool:

[VKPWR]

1) Holden 5.0 (solid Roller Cam) :cool:
2) Holden 5.0
3) Holden 5.7
4) Boss 5.4L
5) LS1
6) Ford 5.0L


& to add another fav RB26DETT

[TJS-81]

Stock:

1) BOSS 260/290
2) Holden 5.0L
3) Ford 5.0L Windsor
4) LS1
5) LS2

[vh-holden]

Would have thought NTAE would have the stand out exhaust with
his big cam? Should give you a fat a cat couldn't scratch.

ooooh, i forgot that one. i suppose if he drove it i wouldn't have forgotten. the vt v6 just doesn't stick in the memory like the ute.

[VX11SS]

Fords boss motor does sound nice as stock but for stock production I reckon the AMG Mercedes E55 sounds awesome and actually shames Holden/Ford for old style V8 sound
cheers Jay

[ProVK]

1. Holden 5.7 with Solid Roller (and Vortech V7) - Best Sounding Combo i have ever heard.
2. Nathan Higgins Ute
3. Holden 5.7 N/A
4. LS1 With Mild Cam
5. Holden 5.0

[BLACK 346]

I am going to add in my old 318 Charger with Genie headers and
custom 2.5 twin system. Used to cop heaps of grief off the
neighbours when I started it early in the morning.

[GTS JaZzA]

man there is nothing better then a vy GTS caining it down the road. im really not a fan of the boss 5.4's sound.

1. HSV 5.7
2. ls2's
3. holden 5L
4. holden 5.7
(some where further down)
ford v8's

[dsvtss]

Dollar for Dollar, the old holden 5L has it hands down over the LS1, although I have heard a few very nice LS1's getting around.

1) Holden 5L
2)Boss 5.4
3)Audi RS6 (these thigs sounded mad when they were Pacecars for the v8 Supercars)
4)LS1

[hsvrichie]

Id have to say my GTO sounded tuffer than any new ford v8 i have ever heard

i think you are right, if your GTO was yellow and you live around the mooroolbark area, and now have a white xr6 turbo with qued zorst. and i put 2 and 2 together i think you are the same person haha then you car was defiantly one of the nicest sounding cars i have ever heard pulling out of a court in my street waking me up everynight and making me drull aww!! and well if thats not you i have just totally imbaresed myself :lol: hahha but yes very nice sounding car should never of got rid of it! or at least give it to me :D