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ROGUE
11-04-2005, 01:12 PM
Like the subject says, what pisses you off the most from other road users?

For me, it's drivers that sit in the overtaking lane, or right hand lane on a double lane road, and do 10kmh less than the speed limit.

Nothing on the road annoys me more... :bash:

team illucid
11-04-2005, 01:15 PM
road users in general :)

Peter B - CV8
11-04-2005, 01:27 PM
Pretty well anyone who gets in my way.

Merlin
11-04-2005, 01:33 PM
Where do I start?

People who sit under the speed limit in perfect conditions

People who sit in the right hand lane when not overtaking

People who use their mobile phones constantly whilst driving

People who fail to indicate (this shits me big time when on the bike)

People who fail to give way at roundabouts, intersections ect and just pull out.

People who constantly tap their brakes every 5 seconds (FFS just take your foot off the accelerator instead of replacing your brake pads once a week)

People who speed excessively in a straight line, then crawl around the slightest hint of a bend. :mad:

CarlFST60L
11-04-2005, 01:39 PM
People that dont move to the correct side of the road while turning i.e. someone turning right into a street sits in the middle so you cant fit around them :mad: :mad: :mad: This happens all the time in my area :box: :bash:

vxcalaiszzz
11-04-2005, 01:44 PM
People who fail to indicate (this shits me big time when on the bike)
:mad:

Why, since you're tailgating in their blind spot trying to cut past on the left or right whenever 3mm of roadspace becomes available between them and the next car? :stick:

SteveK
11-04-2005, 01:44 PM
Tail-gaters, tail-gaters and tail-gaters.

People who parallel park on the freeway doing 100kmh. By this I mean, try to change lanes and fit into a space where they can't. Do they not realise the other person is trying to keep the 2-second gap at all?

People who slow down on an on-ramp when merging and just cause all sorts of chaos.

People who are already on the freeway and change lanes into the left-most lanes at on-ramp points making it even more entertaining for those of us trying to merge as it is.

Cheers,
Steve

vh-holden
11-04-2005, 01:44 PM
people with nicer cars than mine. so pretty much the same as team illucid - all road users.

xshore
11-04-2005, 01:45 PM
people that go 60 in 80km/hr, and 70 in the 100km/hr zones up around authurs seat. Also when they go 120 in a 100 cause even though the road is 100km/hr i think its way too dangerous and should be 90, but then by the slow ass drivers logic that would mean they go 40.

Tron2004
11-04-2005, 01:46 PM
Like the subject says, what pisses you off the most from other road users?

For me, it's drivers that sit in the overtaking lane, or right hand lane on a double lane road, and do 10kmh less than the speed limit.

Nothing on the road annoys me more... :bash:
SAME SAME... Bloody SAME.
I don't know how learners are being taught these days, but I remember that my instructor always told me that the right hand lane is for overtaking only. If you're not overtaking then stay in the left lane.

Isn't it written in the traffic handbook somewhere???

My other pet hate is round-a-bouts and the fact that most people dont know the round-a-bout rules and pretty much just "hope for the best" when they approach one.

Mongy
11-04-2005, 01:47 PM
What irks me? anybody who is on the road at the same time as me in the same vicinity as me. Fark em all I say. :booty:
They don't call me a grumpy old man for nuthin'.

Tron2004
11-04-2005, 01:52 PM
Tail-gaters, tail-gaters and tail-gaters.
I gotta tell ya, since owning my SV8, the tail-gater has basically become a thing of the past.
Now this could be due to 2 reasons...

1. My lowered SV8 looks pretty mean to anyone travelling behind and it's given plenty of room to be admired from OR...

2. Hard to tail-gate something that ya cant catch!!! :D :D

SteveK
11-04-2005, 01:58 PM
I gotta tell ya, since owning my SV8, the tail-gater has basically become a thing of the past.
Now this could be due to 2 reasons...

1. My lowered SV8 looks pretty mean to anyone travelling behind and it's given plenty of room to be admired from OR...

2. Hard to tail-gate something that ya cant catch!!! :D :D

The amount and type of idiots I get tail-gating me, no matter which lane I am in, will not be detracted by the car in front of them. According to their theory, if you own the road, get off it as they're coming through.

Anyone developing metal spikes or oil slicks activated by rear park sensors? Would be a hot seller me thinks.

Cheers,
Steve

clixanup
11-04-2005, 01:59 PM
Middle aged women who are below 5 feet tall and can't see over the steering wheel of their husband's Landcruiser which has never been off-road and in its entire life cutting me off on the Western Ring road because they're "bigger than me". Stupid cows. What is it with 4WD lights anyway? Why aren't they ever aimed properly? They're always just at the right angle to blind you from your rear view mirrors where you sit in a normal car.

People who sit in the "fast" lane on freeways at 85km/h and tap their brakes when there is nothing in front of them. Are you trying to control me? Bastards.

I better shut up now. :mad:

P.S. I agree with everything everyone else has written here.

ssberlina
11-04-2005, 02:02 PM
I agree with most of what has been already said but i must add one.

People who slow down almost to a stop at give way signs when it is very obvious nothing is coming for miles.

Tron2004
11-04-2005, 02:09 PM
:soap: I think what the main problem is, there are too many cars on our already congested roads, and because of this,
patience is fast becoming a forgotten commodity.

Merlin
11-04-2005, 02:12 PM
Why, since you're tailgating in their blind spot trying to cut past on the left or right whenever 3mm of roadspace becomes available between them and the next car? :stick:

Don’t know what your talking about – I never tailgate, never ride in blind spots and only change lanes if there is adequate space to indicate.

If I rode any differently I would probably be dead by now. (seeing as I do 15,000kms a year through Sydney peak hour).

Having said that – I do lane split and hardly ever have to stop – big deal – if people are so jealous then buy a bike- no one is stopping you.


The turds you see riding dangerously are probably the same ones doing burnouts in their fully sik VL commodores – please don’t label us all.
:)

myles
11-04-2005, 02:22 PM
Driving on the freeway in congested morning peak hour traffic and noticing the car behind which is continually slow to brake is due to a girl applying make-up and 'pouting' in the mirror.

I get out of the lane as fast as possible.

Merlin
11-04-2005, 02:23 PM
ooh almost forgot I have more!

- People who drive in Transit lanes with one occupant.
- People who drive in Bus Lanes
- People who get bad road rage (take a chill pill)
- People who block up intersections (because the light went red and their stuck)

exploder
11-04-2005, 02:52 PM
People who think putting on the indicator means they have divine intervention to pull out into traffic.

This goes doubly for Bus drivers who believe that "Give Way" sign on the back of the Bus absolves them from all wrong...

lxhatch
11-04-2005, 03:05 PM
Tail-gaters, tail-gaters and tail-gaters.

People who parallel park on the freeway doing 100kmh. By this I mean, try to change lanes and fit into a space where they can't. Do they not realise the other person is trying to keep the 2-second gap at all?

People who slow down on an on-ramp when merging and just cause all sorts of chaos.

People who are already on the freeway and change lanes into the left-most lanes at on-ramp points making it even more entertaining for those of us trying to merge as it is.

Cheers,
Steve


Yep - all of them
but also ppl who do 90 in the 100 zone THEN still do 90 when it comes to 80 or 70 zones

and Tailgaters :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

and m/bike riders travelling at 40 or 50 or 60kph faster than the other vehicles THEN wonder why they get cut off by cars - they are bikies too stupid to take "closing speeds" into account

myles
11-04-2005, 03:07 PM
- People who drive in Transit lanes with one occupant.


Annoys me as well. It kind of gives the messages they are more 'important' than the rest of us.

Got another one....

When you're at the end of the on ramp and merging into busy traffic with your indicator on, what about the brick-head behind who cuts the white line early and tries to accelerate into everyone in front merging over?

Merlin
11-04-2005, 03:10 PM
and m/bike riders travelling at 40 or 50 or 60kph faster than the other vehicles THEN wonder why they get cut off by cars - they are bikies too stupid to take "closing speeds" into account

ahh....hmmmm......if the car driver is "cutting the bike off" as you say then it is the car driver who is "too stupid to taking closing speeds into account".

Same would go if it were reversed and the car was speeding (or if the example included 2 cars) - whoever is changing lanes is the one who should take closing speed into account not the other way around.

plonkerchops
11-04-2005, 03:12 PM
What irks me? anybody who is on the road at the same time as me in the same vicinity as me. Fark em all I say. :booty:
They don't call me a grumpy old man for nuthin'.


hehehehe couldnt have said it better,
Im 36 , does that make me old enough to be a grumpy old man?

Im starting to feel upset just reading all these...got to relax...OHHHMMMMM OHHMMMMMM :D

Merlin
11-04-2005, 03:13 PM
This goes doubly for Bus drivers who believe that "Give Way" sign on the back of the Bus absolves them from all wrong...

Techinically it does absolve them of all wrong - well if they are pulling away from a kerb anyway (once moving the sign dosn't mean anything). If a bus indicates to pull away from a kerb then ANY other vehicle MUST give way.

Yeah its annoying sometimes but if there were no buses imagine how much worse the congestion would be.

exploder
11-04-2005, 03:19 PM
Techinically it does absolve them of all wrong - well if they are pulling away from a kerb anyway (once moving the sign dosn't mean anything). If a bus indicates to pull away from a kerb then ANY other vehicle MUST give way.

Yeah its annoying sometimes but if there were no buses imagine how much worse the congestion would be.

Crap, all the law provides, is that the moving traffic must stop and give way to an indicating bus, it doesn't mean the Bus driver can pull out into traffic with out checking too see if its safe to do so.

lxhatch
11-04-2005, 03:20 PM
ahh....hmmmm......if the car driver is "cutting the bike off" as you say then it is the car driver who is "too stupid to taking closing speeds into account".

Same would go if it were reversed and the car was speeding (or if the example included 2 cars) - whoever is changing lanes is the one who should take closing speed into account not the other way around.

No merlin not that one - I'm talking about on a 3 lane expressway when bike is chopping from lane to lane at these ridiculous speeds - you check your mirror b4 moving but by the time you move over the bike has zipped across - I have witnessed it time and again happening to cars 100m ahead of me on SE Freeway - dont worry - my m8's and I have owned a few bikes ourselves so I'm not talking about ALL bikies here.

keepleft
11-04-2005, 03:24 PM
Mmmmm,

SS drivers who have their front fog lights on in clear conditions all day every day, then for some odd reason switch them off in heavy rain or fog:-)

Then, 'in operaton', the same folk, and other brand car drivers with their front fog lights ON with the low beam as well! Legal, but really not necessary.

It is better to keep low beam off and run with just the park lights, also means the front indicators stand out more.

Our speed limits on freeways are too low, particularly those out of town, these slow limits I am sure result in many drivers driving like *hit, deliberately, they see no need for European/German like on-road behaviour here.

LX Hatch - the problem with 3-lane freeway's is that NO Australian driver, outside NSW (for the last 5 years) has been taught by their relevant 'road authority' how to use them, hence the reason why many like to 'keep middle'. Little wonder then that so many overtake in the left lane those slower sitting in the middle.

In EU, REGARDLESS of speed one is at, if the left lane is clear (right in LHD countries) it first must be used. In Victoria, your primary driver training manual called 'The Road To Solo Driving', fails completely to teach people how to use freeway lanes properly, 'Keep Left' alone does not cut it. As does btw the handbooks of NT, QLD, SA, TAS, ACT and WA. Little wonder why lane discipline is all over the place in most AUS jurisdictions.

We are not serious about simple driver safety here, relying instead on 'Australian' experts like the certain VIC and SA academics and domestic police, the latter who until only a few years ago didn't know what a rear fog light was!

Obscur3d
11-04-2005, 04:01 PM
Morons who are so keen to try and beat me from the lights that inch forward and eventually run the red. Ive had 2 ppl do that in the last 2 days! One old guy driving a camry sportivo with the cars full of kids, and an alfa 147.

Must have been watching those damn camry sportivo adverts again :bash:

Damn its satisfying waiting til the light goes green and still beating their sorry a$$ through the intersection :cool:

Tron2004
11-04-2005, 04:26 PM
whoever is changing lanes is the one who should take closing speed into account not the other way around.
I agree 101%
Been a few times when I have had to hit the anchors hard because some idiot has pulled out into the lane I was in and had no idea of my speed.

Tron2004
11-04-2005, 04:33 PM
Morons who are so keen to try and beat me from the lights that inch forward and eventually run the red. Ive had 2 ppl do that in the last 2 days! One old guy driving a camry sportivo with the cars full of kids, and an alfa 147.

Must have been watching those damn camry sportivo adverts again :bash:

Damn its satisfying waiting til the light goes green and still beating their sorry a$$ through the intersection :cool:
Yup, I've been there, done that!! :)
And amazingly, after you've thrashed their sorry arses, they want to have another go at you at the next set. :confused:

nemesis5
11-04-2005, 04:50 PM
People who parallel park on the freeway doing 100kmh. By this I mean, try to change lanes and fit into a space where they can't. Do they not realise the other person is trying to keep the 2-second gap at all?

you've been driving on the western ring road haven't you? :lol: god there's some stupid retards on that thing! but i was pleased (well not pleased, but you know what i mean, lol) when one person did that to me, and again to the person in front (we're doing ~105, middle lane near mobil city bound), then two cars up again in the right lane, truck ahead of him braked for traffic, idiot in van couldn't stop, idiot in van ended up in emergency lane with the car missing its rhf wheel and gaining the post from the divider....morons :rolleyes:

Merlin
11-04-2005, 04:57 PM
No merlin not that one - I'm talking about on a 3 lane expressway when bike is chopping from lane to lane at these ridiculous speeds - you check your mirror b4 moving but by the time you move over the bike has zipped across - I have witnessed it time and again happening to cars 100m ahead of me on SE Freeway - dont worry - my m8's and I have owned a few bikes ourselves so I'm not talking about ALL bikies here.

No worries I see what you meant now - yeah it is difficult to see us sometimes due to the fast chop-changing ect. on motorways.

Merlin
11-04-2005, 05:05 PM
Crap, all the law provides, is that the moving traffic must stop and give way to an indicating bus, it doesn't mean the Bus driver can pull out into traffic with out checking too see if its safe to do so.

What do you mean "if safe to do so" - obviously other vehicles need to ANTICIPATE that if they are driving in the left lane and a bus is stopped then it is shortly going to pull out and they should either change lanes or stop and give way as per the law.

If your saying the vehicle is already alongside the bus then I totally agree with you - its very dangerous.

BLACK 346
11-04-2005, 05:21 PM
I thought you guys had everything covered, but a
tropical downpour has just started here and I am
listening to all the fn losers whose cars can't break
traction in the dry fishtailing down the road in
front of my house like it's the summernats burnout
comp. Stinking hot oily roads with bucketloads
of water cascading over them seems to turn them
into raging idiots. Funny thing is the cop shop is
just over the road from me and doesn't seem to
deter them one little bit.

VZSS250
11-04-2005, 05:26 PM
I hate i when:

family carter type cars manuever to take first place at the lights and in doing so they've blocked off a fire breathing 6 litre HSV. Then they proceed to take off slower than a semi.

Everyhting else has been covered.

Cat755
11-04-2005, 05:27 PM
Drivers who won't pass a slower vehicle when the road is clear but then decide too just as you are about to pass them :bash:
Drivers who follow to close at night with their high beam on.
People towing caravans with to little power to do the job and without the correct levelling gear to keep their lights down at night.
Most of the idiotic things already mentioned.

malur8260
11-04-2005, 05:37 PM
I hate i when:

family carter type cars manuever to take first place at the lights and in doing so they've blocked off a fire breathing 6 litre HSV. Then they proceed to take off slower than a semi.

Everyhting else has been covered.

This is my number one hate! Especially when running late for work!

COSMOS
11-04-2005, 05:37 PM
people who disregard MY right to drive like i own the road because .... well i actually do own it ... so move aside.

we were taught how to drive at the police academy many years ago and the instructors were like "always be respectful yada yada yada..." then when we got to the station our field training officers (buddies they were called) would scream at us when we were driving urgent runs telling us DRIVE LIKE YOU OWN THE ROAD BECUASE YOU DO. What i am saying is we were encouraged to drive with a certain amount of confidence and cool control to communicate to other road users that they should give us some space and some respect.

I still tend to drive in that style. Old habits die hard i suppose.

ls1 VN
11-04-2005, 05:38 PM
Glad to see the same f-wits aren't only in NZL.
we have a lot of single lane hi-ways with the odd double overtaking lane, vehicles will do 80-90kph in a 100 zone then when d-lane is reached wow look i can now reach 115-120kph then back to 80-90kph. another they will pull out to pass and can't and just stay there while you feel like putting ya front wheels inside their boot. So many vacant headed females with their hands on their mouths wondering what to do next, brain dead or brain faded morons who can't see that there's nothing in front approaching for them to slow down for. :mad: :box: :bash:

Merlin
11-04-2005, 05:43 PM
ooooh another one....

People who break down in very dangerous places and don't push their car to a safer location. (obviously can't always be done)

E.g. The guy on Windsor Rd yesterday who had a flat tyre and proceeded to change it in the left hand turn lane with his back to oncoming trucks. He could have driven/pushed it 3 metres (thats not exagerating) into an unused driveway.

Tron2004
11-04-2005, 05:46 PM
people who disregard MY right to drive like i own the road because .... well i actually do own it ... so move aside.
Bloody hell, how can you own it when I damnwell do??? :booty:

SteveK
11-04-2005, 06:08 PM
Bloody hell, how can you own it when I damnwell do??? :booty:

So you mean there's no time share system set up? Dammit, I'm putting up my ownership on ebay. If you want to buy it, search for "Tolls".

Steve.

jneil
11-04-2005, 06:11 PM
Don’t know what your talking about – I never tailgate, never ride in blind spots and only change lanes if there is adequate space to indicate.

If I rode any differently I would probably be dead by now. (seeing as I do 15,000kms a year through Sydney peak hour).

Having said that – I do lane split and hardly ever have to stop – big deal – if people are so jealous then buy a bike- no one is stopping you.

The turds you see riding dangerously are probably the same ones doing burnouts in their fully sik VL commodores – please don’t label us all.
:)
and

No merlin not that one - I'm talking about on a 3 lane expressway when bike is chopping from lane to lane at these ridiculous speeds - you check your mirror b4 moving but by the time you move over the bike has zipped across - I have witnessed it time and again happening to cars 100m ahead of me on SE Freeway - dont worry - my m8's and I have owned a few bikes ourselves so I'm not talking about ALL bikies here.

Being an ex rider myself, I think you have MUCH better road manners in a car. Whilst driving, I ALWAYS head check and check my mirrors and am aware of much more than a regular car driver probably is.

Didn't help me though when I changed lanes and the knob on the uninsured bike that was not paying attention, riding up the middle the next lane over doing 100km in the wet when the rest of the traffic was doing 80km/h, couldn't stop in time and slid along the side of my VXIISS then fell off in front of me skidding along at 80km/h in the middle lane of the freeway. The whole freeway had to stop while this d!ckhead had to pick up himself and his bike and get it out of the way. The pr!ck then had the nerve to write a letter to my insurer saying that I was the reckless driver and that he should sue me. I had my cousin with me as a witness though.

Now, back on topic, what really pisses me off is not bloody indicating!

SteveK
11-04-2005, 06:12 PM
you've been driving on the western ring road haven't you? :lol: god there's some stupid retards on that thing! but i was pleased (well not pleased, but you know what i mean, lol) when one person did that to me, and again to the person in front (we're doing ~105, middle lane near mobil city bound), then two cars up again in the right lane, truck ahead of him braked for traffic, idiot in van couldn't stop, idiot in van ended up in emergency lane with the car missing its rhf wheel and gaining the post from the divider....morons :rolleyes:

Almost. Used to drive on the ring road when I was living out that way a few years back. I have most of my experiences on the South Eastern.

Another pet peeve I should add. When you can clearly change lanes safely, so you do so but said idiot decides to speed up considerably to stop you from changing or to make it know to you "Hey you blocked me off". No I didn't moron, you sped up on purpose to be an idiot and graduted to Moron.

And yet another, Warrigal Rd onramp heading out of the city. Impatient people take the left lane as far as it can go, that includes when it turns into an emergency lane. Furthest I've seen someone travel along it was to the next onramp. I kid you not. Are we that impatient people? The only thing you'll certainly be in a hurry for will be the emergency room.

Cheers
Steve

Goggles
11-04-2005, 06:20 PM
in the SS - people who don't understand that it is one of the fastest cars on the road.

in the Patrol - people who wish to cut me off, when the bullbar is going to hurt them a lot more than it hurts the patrol :lol:

exploder
11-04-2005, 06:41 PM
What do you mean "if safe to do so" - obviously other vehicles need to ANTICIPATE that if they are driving in the left lane and a bus is stopped then it is shortly going to pull out and they should either change lanes or stop and give way as per the law.

If your saying the vehicle is already alongside the bus then I totally agree with you - its very dangerous.

I am talking wrt to your second statement. But having read the first sentence it still doesn't negate the drivers responsibility to look and anticipate what the traffic is doing before the bus moves off.

COSMOS
11-04-2005, 06:45 PM
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Is it now clear what irk me the most from other road users? That and a lack of courtesy of course.

t

Pickles
11-04-2005, 06:47 PM
Where do I start?

People who sit under the speed limit in perfect conditions

People who sit in the right hand lane when not overtaking

People who use their mobile phones constantly whilst driving

People who fail to indicate (this shits me big time when on the bike)

People who fail to give way at roundabouts, intersections ect and just pull out.

People who constantly tap their brakes every 5 seconds (FFS just take your foot off the accelerator instead of replacing your brake pads once a week)
Merlin says it all really.But I'll give you an example of someting.Recently we were on our way to Port Fairy,& were just leaving Geelong on a dual lane Rd(2 lanes in each direction)A lady driver in front of me in a Hyundai pulled out to overtake a semi trailer in the left hand lane,so I followed her to overtake the truck as well.But when this woman got level with the cab of the truck,she just stayed level with it!!!-So the truck's in the left lane,she's level with it in the right lane,& as its raining,my pristine VN Group A is getting covered in spray!No amount of headlight flashing would get her to move over.Eventually the truck driver saw what was happening,& he actually moved into the right lane,so I could pass in the left!I don't think the woman even saw me go by-as I went past she was too busy gesticulating at the truck in front of her-How's that for stupidity?
Cheers,Pickles

ls1 VN
11-04-2005, 06:59 PM
Hey cosmos, carefull of the dude in the road train he may just disagree with you. :lol:

KeenGolfer
11-04-2005, 07:04 PM
1. people who don't indicate when changing lanes
2. not staying in your lane in a round-about
3. turning right from the left lane in a round-about
4. tail gaters when I'm sitting on the speed limit
5. People who have to try and get in front of you in a lane merge even though there is no space and they are behind you :mad:

Thing is, when I drive my shitbox I get tailgated, people cut me off etc, but when I'm in the wagon none of that stuff happens.

VQ304
11-04-2005, 07:08 PM
1. People who tailgate
2. People who take forever to speed up when on a freeway onramp. No, you can't merge into freeway traffic when driving at 70km/h.
3. Motorbikes that speed or lane split in moving traffic. They always whinge about how car drivers don't see them, but what do you expect when they just appear out of nowhere in your blind spot :rolleyes:
4. People who don't know that a green arrow means you can turn.
5. People who don't let you in when it says 'form one lane'. Or the opposite, when I'm letting someone in they just slow down and refuse to merge over.
6. People who don't use headlights at dusk. Don't they know how difficult it is to see when you've got the sun in your eyes...

7. Oh yeah, shit drivers.

VooDoo
11-04-2005, 07:10 PM
I have to laugh at the ricers who tailgate as your doing 115/120 on the freeway in the right lane overtaking everyone and THEY get pissed coz your going to slow. Better still, let em pass and watch them cop the tickets.

COSMOS
11-04-2005, 07:16 PM
Hey cosmos, carefull of the dude in the road train he may just disagree with you. :lol:

road train, schmoad train - OUT OF MY WAY MUTHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA

did i mention other drivers who fail to show courtesy on the road - thats a pet peeve of mine.

jneil
11-04-2005, 07:17 PM
This should be a poll, with the top 6 choices, it'd be quite interesting.

jneil
11-04-2005, 07:18 PM
I have to laugh at the ricers who tailgate as your doing 115/120 on the freeway in the right lane overtaking everyone and THEY get pissed coz your going to slow. Better still, let em pass and watch them cop the tickets.

The ricers are tailgating as they don't have enough power to do that speed without your draft :lol:

Tron2004
11-04-2005, 07:21 PM
Hey ROGUE, I hope you're taking notes so you can tell us what the number ONE pet hate is...??
Maybe we can partition someone in order to get some V8 only lanes!! :D

vxcalaiszzz
11-04-2005, 08:37 PM
1. people who don't indicate when changing lanes
2. not staying in your lane in a round-about
3. turning right from the left lane in a round-about
4. tail gaters when I'm sitting on the speed limit
5. People who have to try and get in front of you in a lane merge even though there is no space and they are behind you :mad:

Thing is, when I drive my shitbox I get tailgated, people cut me off etc, but when I'm in the wagon none of that stuff happens.

Isn't it wierd the different regional experiences. Drew, this definately sounds like Canberra, especially with the amount of roundabouts. #5 happens to me every time I am in Canberra, still catches me offguard. Reminds me of the first corner at a Formula 1 race with everyone trying to get in front at all costs.

Here's one for Sydneysiders, people paying with coins in the e-tag lanes. Especially annoying is people who have to stop and rummage around for change. Get a f'n e-tag or use the manual pay lanes. :mad:

CarlFST60L
11-04-2005, 08:55 PM
motor bikes that come between the cars at lights, espically 'cruiser' type bikes... then take off real slow :mad: a 996 did it the other day, i lauched perfectly, he looked across, rolled on the throttle, bye bye, i got cained hard :cool:

People who dont move into the intersection when turning right when the light goes green

People who cut off trucks

People who sit in the right lane on the freeway, cant they read the 'Keep left unless overtaking signs'?

People who do 60 in an 80, then it comes to overtaking lanes and they do 90 :mad: it happens ALLLL the time

PS i own the road, its mine...... my own.....

plonkerchops
11-04-2005, 09:10 PM
motor bikes that come between the cars at lights, .....

tis funny you should mention that one , I friend of mine had a xr6 turbo ute with phase 2 kit on it and was sitting at the lights when a motorbike decided to make a 3rd lane. Lights changed green and Mr motocyclist wasnt quick enough off the mark and got his foot run over by quicker off the mark turbo ute
Motorcyclist =1 broken foot and not really a legal leg to stand on :lol:

RIDE:42
11-04-2005, 09:14 PM
ppl that keep blowin the farkin horn in the morning when i`m having a coffee and a smoke phoning in the radio station to win some tickets :mad:

nols1yet
11-04-2005, 09:20 PM
I gotta say i HATE crusing along in the overtaking lane while on the speed limit and still having some fool behind you trying to go faster... I dont think people realise that the OT'ing lane is not exempt from the speed limit :mad:

Padina
11-04-2005, 09:57 PM
For me, it's drivers that sit in the overtaking lane, or right hand lane on a double lane road, and do 10kmh less than the speed limit.

Nothing on the road annoys me more... :bash:

Same here as well mate. What i used to have was a laminated A4 sheet of paper with big bold KEEP LEFT printed on it. The other side had DICK HEAD. So i just used to pull up on their left and shove the KEEP LEFT sign on my window with a mean grin on my face. When i copped a finger every now and then, i just flipped it over. :lol: My missus cut it up one day when some prick in an old kingswood tried to run us off the road. :eek: :bash: if i didnt have the kids and the missus in the car would of kindly asked him to pull over for a bit a nice chat over coffee.......... yeah write :box: :bash: lol

BlueVZSS
11-04-2005, 10:32 PM
I think that you have most of them covered bar one; the slow driver through the corners who speeds up only when you go to overtake. Dangerous, stupid :bash:

VQ304
11-04-2005, 10:51 PM
I think that you have most of them covered bar one; the slow driver through the corners who speeds up only when you go to overtake. Dangerous, stupid :bash:

Yeah, for sure. I was going down the Great Ocean Road one time behind a grandma in a Falcon and she'd drive at about 30km/h through the bends which were double white lines the whole way. There's a huge line of cars stuck behind us... Finally after ages we get to a straight bit of road and she decides to speed up to 100km/h :bash: Only 3 cars managed to get past before the double white lines started again... Ignorant drivers are probably the worst ones around.

Bongus
11-04-2005, 11:12 PM
I gotta say i HATE crusing along in the overtaking lane while on the speed limit and still having some fool behind you trying to go faster... I dont think people realise that the OT'ing lane is not exempt from the speed limit :mad:

Unless law enforcement is your job... move over and let them pass. There'll always be someone who wants to go faster. Frustrating people just makes the roads more dangerous.

dominik
11-04-2005, 11:53 PM
Agree with all the ones posted so far.

I was just reminded of another one... Drivers who come up alongside you at a set of lights without looking up ahead to see if the lane is blocked with parked cars, then suddenly go for broke to get ahead of you and switch lanes into yours assuming you're going to take off slowly to make way for them.

Tonight a little black Renault came screaming up the right lane on Ann as the lights turned green and then swiftly cut across in front of me to avoid going up the arse of the parked cars. Had I taken off a little faster than I did he would have catapulted into the side of me going 60-odd kph. What gives? I had no chance at all to make way for him even if I wanted to because he only appeared a few feet before the parked cars. If you happen to pick the wrong lane then you slow down, put the indicator on and wait for a break in the traffic. Easy. The whole kamikaze approach makes me want to throttle them.

SteveK
12-04-2005, 12:55 AM
People who cut off trucks

Agreed. Have some respect for larger vehicles. There's a law called MOMENTUM and it scales according to size. A little Honda Civic pulling in front of a 2 trailer semi trying his best to slow down for a set of lights does not mean he'll be as zippy as the civic when slowing down. Atleast these truck drivers are considerate enough to stop rather than 'accidently' stopping on top of the civic.

Cheers,
Steve

bassplayer
12-04-2005, 01:05 AM
Pretty well anyone who gets in my way.

with comments like this....you're sure to have ppl get in your way even more ;)

xxxxgold
12-04-2005, 08:25 AM
I gotta say i HATE crusing along in the overtaking lane while on the speed limit and still having some fool behind you trying to go faster... I dont think people realise that the OT'ing lane is not exempt from the speed limit :mad:

No offence, but it's people like you who cause mayhem on our highways/freeways/motorways.

Sure it's against the law to speed, but that is law enforcements job to enforce, not yours. Do you realise how much aggravation and needless aggression you are causing, which in turn results in stupid manouvres from impatient drivers that stuff the traffic flow completely, no doubt leaving people like you to complain about the 'people who can't drive' when you are late for work!!!

I always remember something that was wrtten in a magazine a few years back. Comparing European freeway driving to Australian freeway driving, the author commented on how much smoother and safer the drive was, even at excessive speeds, because in his words 'there are no self proclaimed guardians of public safety'.

And try this on for size, yes the people who are speeding are breaking the law but you are also breaking the law by 'cruising' in the right hand lane! You must keep as far left as practical unless overtaking and that is the bottom line. If you are going to abuse people for breaking the law, have a good hard look at yourself first.

In reply to the original thread, THIS is the person that annoys me most on the road.

Cheers

BLACK 346
12-04-2005, 09:12 AM
I gotta say i HATE crusing along in the overtaking lane while on the speed limit and still having some fool behind you trying to go faster... I dont think people realise that the OT'ing lane is not exempt from the speed limit :mad:

Unfortunately their are thousands of people like you
on are roads, 1 of the reasons it is so dangerous out
there.

ASC-07
12-04-2005, 09:50 AM
road train, schmoad train - OUT OF MY WAY MUTHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA

did i mention other drivers who fail to show courtesy on the road - thats a pet peeve of mine.

Agreed. Very annoying when you stop to let a car pass on the opposite side of the road as there's not enough room for two to fit, they decide to drop their speed for some reason (to make you wait longer) and don't have the courtesy to give a simple wave :mad:

ROGUE
12-04-2005, 10:00 AM
Bloody hell, i only started this thread yesterday arvo, and in less than one day it's already got five pages of replies :lol: Idiots on the road, is obviously something we all have in common :rolleyes:

I'm gonna get a poll put up with the top ten irks, so make sure you vote!

Peter B - CV8
12-04-2005, 10:07 AM
I gotta say i HATE crusing along in the overtaking lane while on the speed limit and still having some fool behind you trying to go faster... I dont think people realise that the OT'ing lane is not exempt from the speed limit :mad:

Well if your not overtaking...get out of the lane. Let them get past you & get a ticket.

ASC-07
12-04-2005, 10:12 AM
Ohhhh and TAXI DRIVERS who sit in the right lane and do 80km/h...especially on the tullamarine freeway from the airport!!! :mad:

Merlin
12-04-2005, 10:31 AM
motor bikes that come between the cars at lights,



may i ask why? jelousy?......... :D

xxxxgold
12-04-2005, 10:57 AM
And how can i forget the motorbike riders who sit 6 inches from your right rear tyre, in your blind spot, while you are doing 100k's. I know a lot of bike riders are responsible on the roads but with some of them you wonder if being brain dead was a pre-requisite on the riding test. And yet they complain about car drivers being inconsiderate? Hmmmmm

Note this isn't a general swipe at motorbike riders, just a few select morons....

SSBarney
12-04-2005, 11:02 AM
Agree with all the ones posted so far.

I was just reminded of another one... Drivers who come up alongside you at a set of lights without looking up ahead to see if the lane is blocked with parked cars, then suddenly go for broke to get ahead of you and switch lanes into yours assuming you're going to take off slowly to make way for them.



Not a problem if ur in an LS1 :D

SSBarney
12-04-2005, 11:05 AM
I gotta say i HATE crusing along in the overtaking lane while on the speed limit and still having some fool behind you trying to go faster... I dont think people realise that the OT'ing lane is not exempt from the speed limit :mad:


Are you feeling a little frustrated after you failed your attempt to enter the police force..... :bash:

If you want to feel like a copper, eat donuts instead :lol:

VQ304
12-04-2005, 11:43 AM
Something that I forgot to add to my earlier post, but the drive this morning reminded me of it.

- People who go through red lights

Saw a C class Merc almost get cleaned up by a taxi when the Merc went through a completely red light, the lights for the other direction had already gone green. Why doesn't anybody ever beep the horn when that happens, they just ignore it and keep driving :mad:

Gee
12-04-2005, 12:38 PM
I gotta say i HATE crusing along in the overtaking lane while on the speed limit and still having some fool behind you trying to go faster... I dont think people realise that the OT'ing lane is not exempt from the speed limit :mad:

Well, drivers who think and do this are my 100% absolute hate. If you're not overtaking get out of the right hand lane.

The Nurse
12-04-2005, 12:45 PM
may i ask why? jelousy?......... :D

no because one day they'll misjudge a gap and take off your mirror. plus i'm scared one day I may not see one in an unexpected place and hit one, then i'll feel bad about it

Another one of my pet hates is the stupid rear fog light on hyundai excels.

people using their windscreen washers when they are just infront of you, seems to always happen when you've just washed the car too.

4wds - can't stand the farkin things :bash:

A percentage of P platers - they do some really stupid things, not from inexpereicne but just stupid unneccessary things.

clueless people in general - people who just drive along acting like they are in a bubble of some sort, taking no notice of their surounds

camry drivers - enough said

people with the something dangling off their mirror - to me this always signals a bad driver, look out for them!!

Leilani7
12-04-2005, 12:57 PM
Like the subject says, what pisses you off the most from other road users?

For me, it's drivers that sit in the overtaking lane, or right hand lane on a double lane road, and do 10kmh less than the speed limit.

Nothing on the road annoys me more... :bash:

I agree with all that has been said, but lets talk highway driving

1 Caravaners or any cars / trucks that all pile up together ie 5 or 6 in a row and dont leave enough room for anyone other than a mac jet to pass cause that's the speed that you need to pass them all at once, although the Monaro comes close to the jet!! :lol:

2 And the people in the oncoming traffic at night that firstly dont know how to turn off high BEAM!!!!!! and then find about 2mins too late which knob does the job and then just about 2 to 3 seconds before you pass one another, feel that they cant possibly see the road unless they turn the high beam back on BEFORE they go past!!! thus renedering you blinded for the duration!!! :cool: Stevie Wonder eat your heart out

There now had my gripe
Have a good day all on the roads

vxcalaiszzz
12-04-2005, 01:29 PM
I gotta say i HATE crusing along in the overtaking lane while on the speed limit and still having some fool behind you trying to go faster... I dont think people realise that the OT'ing lane is not exempt from the speed limit :mad:

So you're the driver of that car! 16 cars in a road train stuck behind a caravan at 80 in a 100 zone, you're first behind the caravan. Come to the first overtaking lane in 20km. Caravan naturally speeds up to 99 now (I don't know why they weren't at that speed for the last 20 km ! :mad: ). You pull out and proceed to overtake at 100 ("the speed limit" :limpy: ) which takes the entire distance of the overtaking lane. Result 1 car in front of caravan, 15 cars stuck behind caravan for another 20km :mad:

Sorry for flashing my lights and beeping my horn at you when I finally did get past the caravan, moron. :flipoff:

CarlFST60L
12-04-2005, 01:46 PM
may i ask why? jelousy?......... :D

When doing 0-100 in 5 seconds the rear end moves around a little, and if my reaction time is quicker than yours, you might one day get clipped by a 1650kg commo, the ones that get me are the cruiser bikes, and four of em come up around u :mad: then cruise off thinken they own the road...

As for overtaking of the road train, I turn my lights on, 2nd/3rd gear full noise, watch out, im comming threw :rolleyes:

And that guy saying he hates people coming up behind him in the right lane, mate, you dont own the road, there signs that say KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING! i dont like flashing my high beams and point to the left side of the road while you drive next to someone, you really p!ss me off :mad: Most people move over, but theres always one c0ck head that thinks if dosnt want to speed no one can... get over it, move over, im commen through :bash:

Merlin
12-04-2005, 02:27 PM
the ones that get me are the cruiser bikes, and four of em come up around u :mad: then cruise off thinken they own the road...


he he - cruisers trying to lane split - its funny watching them try though you have to admit! So noisy and pointless - but each to their own i guess.


When doing 0-100 in 5 seconds the rear end moves around a little

no problem there - i do 0-100 in under 3 seconds and always watch the lights so you aint going to be running over me :eek:

plonkerchops
12-04-2005, 02:48 PM
I agree with all that has been said, but lets talk highway driving

1 Caravaners or any cars / trucks that all pile up together ie 5 or 6 in a row and dont leave enough room for anyone other than a mac jet to pass cause that's the speed that you need to pass them all at once, although the Monaro comes close to the jet!! :lol:

2 And the people in the oncoming traffic at night that firstly dont know how to turn off high BEAM!!!!!! and then find about 2mins too late which knob does the job and then just about 2 to 3 seconds before you pass one another, feel that they cant possibly see the road unless they turn the high beam back on BEFORE they go past!!! thus renedering you blinded for the duration!!! :cool: Stevie Wonder eat your heart out

There now had my gripe
Have a good day all on the roads

living in the country I can relate to these well. Ive got some more to add to them
1.tourists/caravans pulling out on you whilst doing 110 especially when theres no cars behind me and then do 80-ish( or whatever under the posted limit) , Ive had someone do that to me at 5 in the morning then do the hands in the air gesture like they dont know what Im on about when I lean on the horn from the back of their car to the front as I go past. :slap:
2. further more to your trail of cars behind slow driver/ caravan/truck/etc etc. No ones usually willing to pass but drive like lemmings for 50 kays so I take it apon myself to play what I call leap frog , and then have the passed motorist desperately try to speed up to block me out of ' their ' spot...BWHAHAH too late Im past you , clown , which always results in flashing headlights and tail gating..! and its not cos there wasnt enough room either, I wouldnt have passed if there wasnt .

myles
12-04-2005, 02:50 PM
Cab drivers who haven't slept all year... and have the driving skills to prove it.
(Love the dark aviators, from the FM104 showbag? :lol: )

Had a nimrod cab driver, without indicating, take a sharp left turn from the lane to the right of me to go left into Caxton street.

Indicating from two lanes over in front of another car...Couldn't believe it until it was happening and hit the brakes. Seen it a few more times in the city.

myles
12-04-2005, 02:57 PM
Another... has to do with parking.

The skillful parkers who manage to park two metres out from the kerb. For a second you think it's about to move when you realise no one is at the wheel.

And those non-english speaking people near me who park on a curb and sometimes almost right on the roundabout. Give or take a metre.

Good spot you say! No one park on roundabout! :rolleyes:

SSFreak
12-04-2005, 02:58 PM
may i ask why? jelousy?......... :D

I used to ride a m/cycle and NEVER rode between cars. Neither did my mates. It used to p*** me off no end when I saw other riders doing it. I figured that if I wanted to be treated like an equal road user then I should act like one. Too many car drivers treat bike riders like they don't belong on the road. Stupid stunts like this just make it worse.

alexcs
12-04-2005, 03:08 PM
people with vx-vz s,ss,hsv's who have their foglights on during 100% clear weather, day or night.

just a little heads up, it doesnt make you look cool :)

and everything else people have said.

nb. last time someone gave me negative feedback for saying this, i wonder if it will happen again?

the feedback system seems to be a way for weak debaters to have some sort of anonymous victory, i wonder if it cheers them at all?

Mongy
12-04-2005, 03:15 PM
hehehehe couldnt have said it better,
Im 36 , does that make me old enough to be a grumpy old man?
My kids would say "YES" to that :lol:



Bloody hell, i only started this thread yesterday arvo, and in less than one day it's already got five pages of replies Idiots on the road, is obviously something we all have in common

I'm gonna get a poll put up with the top ten irks, so make sure you vote!Damo, has anybody told you that you are a serial PEST :p

ROGUE
12-04-2005, 03:29 PM
My kids would say "YES" to that :lol:


Damo, has anybody told you that you are a serial PEST :p

I guess that's why i had -14 rep points :lol:

Peter B - CV8
12-04-2005, 03:43 PM
Pretty well anyone who gets in my way.
Further to my above post ---- bloody lycra clad pushbike riders who always seem to ride in groups and are unable to ride "indian file" - they insist on riding abreast and completely blocking the lane.

Nawdy
12-04-2005, 04:44 PM
Three from me:

- stupid 4wd drivers who consider that the road rules are just a rough guide for them and have the "my vehicle is bigger than yours" mentality, and they feel it gives them right of way at all times. I really do enjoy driving heavy vehicles sometimes... :lol: they don't like inconsiderate truck drivers!!

- drivers who do 80km/h in a perfectly seviceable vehicle in a derestricted zone

- driving in school zones/carparks when school finishes. It's like all the mums forget there are actually road rules to be followed, and you can stop and pick up little Johnny from wherever you want....

dominik
12-04-2005, 04:50 PM
Not a problem if ur in an LS1 :DIt is if you're driving sensibly on busy city streets (where pedestrians are always crossing the road on a whim), and in the case of last night, if you can outrun a car that's already traveling 60kph while you're taking off from a dead stop, well that's a pretty impressive LS1 you've got there :)

Merlin
12-04-2005, 05:39 PM
I used to ride a m/cycle and NEVER rode between cars. Neither did my mates.

Yeah but you don't count as you live in Canberra - no traffic (j/k)

Ricko
12-04-2005, 05:45 PM
People who need to swerve left before turning right or vice versa, like they are driving a B Double.

People who indicate to inform you they have FINISHED changing lanes.

This is a common one in small country towns, old farts in their POS farm cars that drive sooooooo slow they feel as though they have an exemption from the road rules. :mad:

Merlin
12-04-2005, 05:48 PM
Was walking down Cleveland St in the city today and stopped at the pedestrian crossing. Anyway their was a line of stationary cars waiting to turn right into Chalmers.

Meanwhile an 18 wheeler semi is going stright ahead (estimated speed 70km/h). One of the genius stationary car drivers (RAV4) decides they dont want to turn right anymore and pulls out in front of the moving truck. Truck slammed on its brakes, sounded its horn and skidded to a halt BARELY crushing the RAV4 (complete with token asian female driver). It was so close all the pedestrians (including me) actually jumped back from the road as we thought this RAV was going to be mincemeat.

FFS give trucks room to stop!

CarlFST60L
12-04-2005, 06:53 PM
no problem there - i do 0-100 in under 3 seconds

I know my place :D

i have had plenty a bikes make me realise that 0-100 in 5 seconds is 1.4 throttle for them :lol: good fun though :cheers:

dpac
12-04-2005, 06:57 PM
FFS give trucks room to stop!


agreed give us room in general....

and this is the 100th post

bassplayer
12-04-2005, 07:09 PM
I used to ride a m/cycle and NEVER rode between cars. Neither did my mates. It used to p*** me off no end when I saw other riders doing it. I figured that if I wanted to be treated like an equal road user then I should act like one. Too many car drivers treat bike riders like they don't belong on the road. Stupid stunts like this just make it worse.

too right. there are some silly m.bike riders out there, a percentage of them that wont live very long, u hear about it each day on the news.

the high beam oncoming traffic does it for me. i cant help but high-beam em right back, i know its not the safest option but they may realise then how annoying they are.

okay the keep left unless overtaking on highways etc & most roads above 80km/h is fine, i have no probs with that & will move over (if not already in the left lane) to let some silly driver cruise on past to get their speeding ticket. thats no problem with me. but its the city drivers in 60km/h zones that sit on your ass in the r.hand lane waiting for u to move over that really shit me off. if u do that to me, im only going to go slower & the closer u sit on my ass, the more im going to play that game (c'mon we've all done it b4) where u leave a small gap ahead of u between the adjacent car so the prick behind u thinks he can get thru but as he changes lanes & comes up along side, u just gently accelerate so he is boxed in. im sure every1 is aware of this & if u think ur king of the road in a 60km/h zone?.....then be prepared for every1 else to hate u & prevent u from getting that extra 'car length' ahead. do u really think u gonna get to where ur goin any quicker by driving like a moron? :lol:

Merlin
12-04-2005, 07:14 PM
I know my place :D

i have had plenty a bikes make me realise that 0-100 in 5 seconds is 1.4 throttle for them :lol: good fun though :cheers:

Mad fun!

I went for a ride up Old Rd last Sunday (on my old ZZR 250, 600's in for a service) and as I was riding along I came across a VY Clubbie just tootling along on the speed limit. Anyway I came up to pass and he gunned it.

Bah I thought - I'll show him. Accelerated up to the back of him but he was really moving. Started scraping the bike through corners I was trying that hard, but still couldn't get past. Damn it was fun though - had a huge grin the whole time.

As we came out of the twisties onto the straight I flashed my lights for him to pull over and have a chat (my mates were waiting up ahead for a drink - they were both on 2 strokes so much quicker than me) but he didnt stop - would have loved to have stopped and had a chat with him. So if your on this board would love to have a :beer: sometime!

I think he was in trouble though (he had the Mrs next to him yelling the whole time by the looks of it).

vxcalaiszzz
12-04-2005, 08:32 PM
and this is the 100th post

missed buy that much :headbang:

keepleft
12-04-2005, 09:56 PM
Nawdy of NT wrote: - "drivers who do 80km/h in a perfectly seviceable vehicle in a derestricted zone".

I might have a part answer as to why you get that sometimes. You 'might' be dealing with out of State drivers. The speed derestriction sign (///) here in NSW up to June 1978 use to have an 80km/h 'Prima Facie' limit attached to it. It worked like this, IF you exceeded 80km/h on a derestricted road and were actioned by police for driving at a 'speed dangerous', you were assumed guilty of that offence in Court, UNLESS *you* could prove the speed detected was not dangerous for the prevailing cicumstances. You can see why it had legal compatibility issues with our inhereted law.

The Australian Standard 1742.4 of 1999 has corrected the error, no Prima Facie limit is attached to the sign now, nor is any 'recommended limit' or other limit attached. However, 'license category' speed limits, example 100km/h for say NSW Green P plates can still apply, to them, in a derestriction zone.

Bassplayer, whilst sympathetic, your 'attitude' has me concerned. In NSW in our driver handbook we teach even in a multi-lane 60km/h zone that you should use the left lane rather than just sitting 'right' for the hell of it.

bassplayer
12-04-2005, 10:06 PM
keepleft - i never said i drive in the right lane just for the hell of it. if i need to make a right turn further up etc i would need to be in that lane of course. i dont go looking for trouble & i do avoid it but its the arrogant drivers who sit on your ass no matter which lane you're in to try & make u move out of 'their way' when they could go around, that piss me off. it doesnt say in our road rules book anything about driving only in the left lane.

Nawdy
12-04-2005, 10:47 PM
Nawdy of NT wrote: - "drivers who do 80km/h in a perfectly seviceable vehicle in a derestricted zone".

I might have a part answer as to why you get that sometimes. You 'might' be dealing with out of State drivers. The speed derestriction sign (///) here in NSW up to June 1978 use to have an 80km/h 'Prima Facie' limit attached to it. It worked like this, IF you exceeded 80km/h on a derestricted road and were actioned by police for driving at a 'speed dangerous', you were assumed guilty of that offence in Court, UNLESS *you* could prove the speed detected was not dangerous for the prevailing cicumstances. You can see why it had legal compatibility issues with our inhereted law.

The Australian Standard 1742.4 of 1999 has corrected the error, no Prima Facie limit is attached to the sign now, nor is any 'recommended limit' or other limit attached. Yep, I know you are right (I was actually driving around on NSW country roads in '78), but I think it may be a long bow to draw... but thank-you for your factual reply!

Although contending with southerners on derestricted roads has it's own set of challenges, a lot of the offenders are actually locals driving around with only their car in gear...... people from interstate will generally sit on 110km/h.

nols1yet
13-04-2005, 01:52 AM
No offence, but it's people like you who cause mayhem on our highways/freeways/motorways.

Sure it's against the law to speed, but that is law enforcements job to enforce, not yours. Do you realise how much aggravation and needless aggression you are causing, which in turn results in stupid manouvres from impatient drivers that stuff the traffic flow completely, no doubt leaving people like you to complain about the 'people who can't drive' when you are late for work!!!

I always remember something that was wrtten in a magazine a few years back. Comparing European freeway driving to Australian freeway driving, the author commented on how much smoother and safer the drive was, even at excessive speeds, because in his words 'there are no self proclaimed guardians of public safety'.

And try this on for size, yes the people who are speeding are breaking the law but you are also breaking the law by 'cruising' in the right hand lane! You must keep as far left as practical unless overtaking and that is the bottom line. If you are going to abuse people for breaking the law, have a good hard look at yourself first.

In reply to the original thread, THIS is the person that annoys me most on the road.

Cheers



Hrm apparently missing the point is a good thing these days :rolleyes:

If I am overtaking another car, and am in the right hand lane while overtaking and some fool behind me wants to overtake, they can just wait till I am done. Not that im trying to be some sorta public road vigilante trying to get everyone to go slower. I dont recall attempting to make the point that I sit in the right lane for hundred of kilometres while the other lane is free...And I am not some kinda prude who thinks everyone should behave nicely and hand flower to every cnt they cause offence to on the roads.

I gotta say its pretty f'd up that the attitude a few of you are displaying is the exact reason why australias roads are so shit, people in a hurry to break the law/speed/drive at a safe speed, whatever excuse you wanna give yourself. Simply put, people dont respect the road, adn a lot of the surpising comments in this thread can be placed on the same level of under skilled drivers acting like fckwits on suburban roads, thinking you are so almighty that your driving, and ONLY your driving style is the way to go

tlr1000
13-04-2005, 03:25 AM
Taxi drivers that stop in the middle of a busy road blocking traffic to pick up their passengers. I think part of getting the job is not being able to drive properly, and whats the go with the ones that drive on/off the throttle. By the time you get where your going you need a sea sick tablet.

SSFreak
13-04-2005, 08:09 AM
Yeah but you don't count as you live in Canberra - no traffic (j/k)

You're assuming I've always lived in Canberra, which is not the case. :)

Holden Nut
13-04-2005, 09:41 AM
These are very vague but if you think about it they apply to heaps of things that happen on the roads:

* People who are not aware of whats going on around them
* People who do not use initiative when driving

Then the others have been covered:

* Cars in right lane not overtaking, going same speed or slower
* People who try and make a right turn from the left lane of a roundabout
* People who don't know how to properly indicate around a roundabout
* People who stop and give way to cars at a roundabout before they have even entered and/or are still 40m away.

XLR8 V8
13-04-2005, 09:43 AM
1. Motorbikes who ride up the centre of 2 lanes at the lights - doesn't annoy me through jealousy, it's the fact that those same riders are usually the ones who complain about car drivers thinking they own the roads .... try obeying the road rules and you can have as much right as the rest of us! Scary thing is that I've have people on gutless little scooters do the same thing, and almost get flattened when the lights go green and the 2 cars behind them both accelerate faster than them!

2. People who have no clue how to use roundabouts. They continue around to the right from the left lane and collect the inside car that was going straight ahead. Or those who suddenly decide they want to go either straight ahead or left, when the right lane they are in says "Right turn only".

3. People who have no idea about giving way. Those that come to a complete stop at the entrance to a roundabout, THEN check for traffic to the right when it was clear to everyone who was observing further than 2m in front of their bumper.

4. People who are looking for an address driving at 20km/h, driving in the middle of the lane, looking down at their street directory, looking left and right ..... looking everywhere but their rear vision mirror! Where they would usually see a train of cars banking up behind.

5. Cabbies who don't turn off their side spotlights .... they pull up next to you in traffic and blind you. Surely the fact that the car next to you is suddenly lit up like a Xmas tree would alert you to the fact your spotlight is on? Twice in 2 weeks this has happened to me, and the cabbies sat there for a full 90secs oblivious to the fact before driving off with the light still on.

6. People who drive up behind you with their high beams on, and don't even catch on after they see you dipping your rear vision mirror.

7. People who seemed to have deselected the indicator stalk as an option when buying their car. Driving along, they suddenly slow and slow and slow, then turn without so much as a hint of amber from the back of their car. Alternatively, those who drive around with their right indicator PERMANENTLY flashing, but never notice.

8. People or cabbies who pull up out the front of your neighbours houses either very early in the morning, or very late at night, and happily give the horn a blast to pick them up or say goodbye ... waking you from your slumber.

9. Vehicles that blast out MASSIVE plumes of smoke or ash under acceleration in front of you, but the owner seems to easily get rego renewed each year.

10. Morons who don't know how to secure a load to their trailer or ute properly. They take rubbish to the dump and end up leaving half of it on the road for users to run over, or it spews out all over the bonnet/windscreen of the car behind. My own front bar was nearly collected 2 weeks ago by an idiot who'd strapped some planks/shelving to his roofracks .... he accelerated from the lights in front of me, I began to follow until I saw the entire load was heading backwards off the racks toward me. I stopped in time for it to land on the road just 2ft from my front bar ..... to top it off the wanker behind me started beeping his horn at me for being stopped while the light was green :rolleyes:

11. Idiots who think you want to drag race on the streets anywhere/anytime. They pull up alongside and start revving and carrying on like a dick, then when you indicate NO (heading to/from work, got friends/family/kids in the car, just don't feel like it) they take off like a dick, then slow right down or wait at the next light to call you a "gutless tosser" :rolleyes:

There are lots more, but this post is long enough already ....

Holden Nut
13-04-2005, 09:48 AM
So you're the driver of that car! 16 cars in a road train stuck behind a caravan at 80 in a 100 zone, you're first behind the caravan. Come to the first overtaking lane in 20km. Caravan naturally speeds up to 99 now (I don't know why they weren't at that speed for the last 20 km ! :mad: ). You pull out and proceed to overtake at 100 ("the speed limit" :limpy: ) which takes the entire distance of the overtaking lane. Result 1 car in front of caravan, 15 cars stuck behind caravan for another 20km :mad:

Sorry for flashing my lights and beeping my horn at you when I finally did get past the caravan, moron. :flipoff:
Okay, if the caravan were to go from 80 to 99/100 in the overtaking zone, it would be understandable to flash lights/beep horn/swear/throw something etc. If he was driving at 99/100 all along in a 100km/h zone and you want to go faster but cant and get angry over it, thats for you to deal with. Why are you all having a go at this guy for obeying the law?

Oh and before anyone wants to get stuck into me, imo while I know he is technically right I am aware people obviously speed when overtaking, I do this myself and don't hide the fact.

VYBerlinaV8
13-04-2005, 10:01 AM
If the caravan is doing 99 and you want to do 100 then FFS, let the others go past first!

Personally, whenever I overtake I like to get the manoever over quickly and get the hell out of the way of whoever might be coming up behind.

Why is it that so many people speed up at overtaking lanes, it is really strange!

Merlin
13-04-2005, 10:09 AM
1. Motorbikes who ride up the centre of 2 lanes at the lights - doesn't annoy me through jealousy, it's the fact that those same riders are usually the ones who complain about car drivers thinking they own the roads ....

Sorry just can't agree with that - despite the fact it's not actually illegal (it is a grey area of the law), I have split past police before and they don’t even raise an eyebrow.

Even if it was illegal then what you are saying is “motorbikes break the law therefore deserve no respect on the road”......

So going off that logic you’ve never broken the road rules in your life?

For example if you speed everywhere (which I’m sure a lot of people, do on this forum) then your breaking the law and deserve no respect from other road users on the road? Not in my books.


My Sports bike Lane Splitting Guide for Car Drivers:
If done properly it is not dangerous. I only split stationary traffic and I have the upmost respect for people’s mirrors. If the mirrors are getting close I’ll be very careful and will even fold my own mirrors in to prevent damage to your car. Remember I value my bike just as much as you value your car so I’m not setting out to smash off your mirrors which is what most seem worried about. If the gaps too small I won’t take it and I will line up. If you move over to give me more room I’ll give you a wave as I go past or even stop at your window and have a chat (usually happens once a week). Furthermore, my lane splitting will not hold you up in any way and will even get you home faster – how you ask? Well instead of me queuing up in traffic and making the line longer I move to the front of the line and will pull in front of the leading car (I WILL NOT SIT IN BETWEEN THE TWO FRONT CARS – THIS IS DANGEROUS FOR ME AND CONFUSING FOR CAR DRIVERS) and am shortly gone, meaning your traffic line up is shorter. If you’re the front car in the que, don’t worry, I always watch the lights and you will never run me over accidentally (or intentionally). Even if I’m on a 250 I will not hold you up.

But hey this is a car forum and car drivers have always been suspicious of motorbike riders so I’ll understand if you don’t agree. Just remember I still own a car (am looking for an SS for the missus to drive) as do most riders so it shouldn’t be an US vs THEM mentality.

If there are any further grievances/misconceptions as to why you don’t like me lane splitting then let me know (in a nice way) and I will happily answer them.

XLR8 V8
13-04-2005, 10:18 AM
Even if it was illegal then what you are saying is “motorbikes break the law therefore deserve no respect on the road”......

Interestingly, after re-reading my own post, I really can't see anywhere that I said that. The word "respect" can't even be found anywhere in my post? (Though I found it 3 times in yours :p - is it the "power word of the week" in your day planner? :lol: )
A summary of my statement would be more like "bike riders who ride up the middle act like they own the road and have more rights than the rest of us, even though many riders complain that car drivers act the same"



FYI, as a former rider myself, I can HONESTLY say I never rode up the centre of 2 lanes .... firstly 2 maintain my own safety, and secondly I'm really not that impatient.


Edit: Just thought I should also add, that MANY MANY riders do not follow your "Lane Splitting Guide". Many are new to bikes and can barely take corners properly before they start lane splitting. Consequently, they bash mirrors, end up in peoples blind spots as the traffic starts moving, don't watch indicators on the cars they're splitting to see that one of the cars is changing lanes, and don't get off the line cleanly when at the front. You are defending riders as though they all automatically have the experience and skill you have on your bike, when in reality, some are just rocket jockeys with no clue. With that level of experience, they are no safer than if they were WALKING up the centre when the traffic starts moving.

xxxxgold
13-04-2005, 10:37 AM
I don't really have a problem one way or another with m/cycle riders riding between cars at traffic lights when the traffic has stopped (if the traffic is still moving they are asking for trouble though, if a kid runs out and i have the choice to hit either the rider or a small unprotected child, i know which one it's gonna be) but it is in fact illegal, it's not really a 'grey area' at all, at least in QLD, maybe elsewhere.

I think most drivers don't really care about the time saving measures taken by bike riders as long as they aren't affecting the traffic in an adverse way. We have all seen the bike riders on the highway when everyone is doing 110 but they still insist on weaving in and out of every 4 foot gap they see. That's the kind of rider i hate, the Honda Highway at traffic lights has considerably less potential for something ugly to happen.

Merlin
13-04-2005, 10:59 AM
FYI, as a former rider myself, I can HONESTLY say I never rode up the centre of 2 lanes .... firstly 2 maintain my own safety, and secondly I'm really not that impatient..

What sort of bike did you ride though? (i.e. sportsbike or cruiser)
Did you commute? (e.g. i dont lane split on weekends only whilst going to/from work - this is because it takes concentration and well on the weekend i just want to relax)



Edit: Just thought I should also add, that MANY MANY riders do not follow your "Lane Splitting Guide". Many are new to bikes and can barely take corners properly before they start lane splitting. . You are defending riders as though they all automatically have the experience and skill you have on your bike, when in reality, some are just rocket jockeys with no clue. With that level of experience, they are no safer than if they were WALKING up the centre when the traffic starts moving.

Totally agree with you here. Sorry for the ambiguity - I was not trying to defend all riders. The experienced/sensible ones obey the above guide I posted (mostly all of the time). Yes some (not all) do exactly what you say but hey Darwin will sort them out.

BLACK 346
13-04-2005, 11:06 AM
Yes some (not all) do exactly what you say but hey Darwin will sort them out.

No, please don't send them up here, we already have the
craziest drivers in the world :D

Cat755
13-04-2005, 01:11 PM
People who follow to close to semitrailers and are continually ducking in and out to see if the road is clear. Why not follow from 100 metres back and have a clearer view of the road ahead. Saw a bloke do this one day behind a semi loaded with cattle and I don't think he will do it again,ended up covered in sh*t.
Did a lot of kilometres on road bikes when I got my licence and although I never rode up between lines of taffic at stop lights I have no problems with others doing it. I learnt early that most car drivers just don't see you,for some reason, so rode as if they were all out to get you. Still drive the same, am always looking for an escape route, there are some idiots out there :mad:

DaveHAT
13-04-2005, 01:52 PM
Did you commute? (e.g. i dont lane split on weekends only whilst going to/from work - this is because it takes concentration and well on the weekend i just want to relax)


Been following this thread & watching the interesting replies, but this one interests me. Merlin, you say you only lane split on the way to & from work. This would seem to be the worst possible time to do it IMHO. Increased traffic and thus increased chance of getting drilled/taken out & from memory it's illegal to lane split. I too have lived & commuted in Sydney on a donor-cycle & I see why you would lane split, but sportsbike or cruiser it makes no difference, you're only dead once, not worth the risk IMHO. It only takes 1 motorist to open their door or not check their mirrors etc, before your day gets bloody complicated as a result. I'd rather be late for work than dead from lane spliting, just my thoughts, not a personal dig.

Back on topic however, the things that drivers do that irk me the most, would have to be,
1. drivers/riders who think "KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING" is only a polite suggestion.
2. Drivers who allow the front seat passenger to travel with their feet up on the dash.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND THE AIRBAG GOES OFF????????????? Face full of knee caps, that's what. Remembering that it doesn't have to be a high speed accident to activate the airbag. Worth thinking about.

Merlin
13-04-2005, 02:16 PM
Been following this thread & watching the interesting replies, but this one interests me. Merlin, you say you only lane split on the way to & from work. This would seem to be the worst possible time to do it IMHO. Increased traffic and thus increased chance of getting drilled/taken out & from memory it's illegal to lane split. I too have lived & commuted in Sydney on a donor-cycle & I see why you would lane split, but sportsbike or cruiser it makes no difference, you're only dead once, not worth the risk IMHO. It only takes 1 motorist to open their door or not check their mirrors etc, before your day gets bloody complicated as a result. I'd rather be late for work than dead from lane spliting, just my thoughts, not a personal dig.


Well as I said I lane split to save time - how does 38 minutes from Baulkham Hills to the front door of my CBD building sound in peak hour?

IMO it isnt dangerous to lane split stationary cars - Lane splitting is probably the safest part of my ride. Just general riding in moving traffic on multiple lanes is far more dangerous.

I do it carefully, I pay attention, I indicate my intentions and I ride with the attitude that no one can see me and everyones out to kill me - thats probably why I havn't had an acco yet (touch wood).

But thats my opinion, sure others will disagree and I respect that, no personal offence taken :)

Nawdy
13-04-2005, 02:50 PM
Thought I might throw my 2 cents worth in about here. Lane-splitting on motorcycles can be done safely under certain circumstances but the majority of car drivers tend to remember the acts of sheer stupidity some motorcyclists perform when it comes to lane-splitting. I can remember riding my motorcycle down Hastings-Dandenong Rd (or whatever it's called today) watching other motorcyclists lane splitting between cars travelling in opposite directions at over 100km/h... I just shook my head and waited for the bang.

As long you use common sense, have the confidence and ability to control a bike properly, lane splitting stationary cars isn't a drama.

One other thing that gets me :mad: on the road - when oncoming track on a gravel road/roadworks area won't slow down enough so you don't get sprayed with debris. I've lost more than one windscreen because of this!!!

Merlin
13-04-2005, 02:57 PM
What about personalised plates - they irk me! (some of them anyway)

This week alone I have seen 3 variations of the ZOOM ZOOM theme on Mazda's. I'm not talking performance cars, the last one was "2OM 20M" on a Mazda Tribute, i dont get it!

Worse are the dodgy ricers with USEXME and UWANME ect ect usually on 15 year old 3 series BMW's with chrome wheels. Or the Mazda 121 bubble car I saw yesterday with the plates "FAST BOX", yeah sure buddy......

do they count? (PS - they also cant drive so i suppose they do!)

SSFreak
13-04-2005, 05:01 PM
Here's a couple more whinges for me.

I'm driving along in the left lane when I come up behind a car going at a granny's pace. So I change to the right lane and accelerate to my desired speed. But up ahead is another car also doing granny speed, but this time in the right lane. So I go to change to the left lane but the first "granny" has accelerated so that he's caught up with me, and then drives alongside me matching my speed and effectively boxing me in.

The other one I hate is I'm driving along a one lane road sitting behind another "granny" driver. As soon as it changes to two lanes I move across to the right lane. "Granny" then floors it until it changes back to one lane (only a short distance) and then slows down again to his previous snail pace. If I wasn't so dumbfounded I would have thought to give it a bit and outpace him, but I wasn't anticipating a drag race.

The above incidents have only happened to me three or four times each but always leave me amazed at how moronic some people can be.

ROGUE
14-04-2005, 09:56 AM
When i started this thread, i never thought it would attract this much attention.

Speaking of getting boxed in, i was boxed in yesterday by two family vans going up a hill. I was in the right hand lane, the car on my left was at the same speed as me, and the car blocking the right hand lane was also travelling at the same speed. After about 30 seconds of flashing high beam and blasting them with the horn, they must of got tired of it and pulled over.

The driver had his window up, so he couldn't hear me, but i bet he could lip read pretty well :lol:

SSFreak
14-04-2005, 11:02 AM
but i bet he could lip read pretty well :lol:

LOL!!!

This reminds me of an incident about 12 months ago travelling back from the south coast. I was in a long line of single lane traffic. When the overtaking lane came up the woman in front of me, driving some sort of Peugeot or something, pulled out to overtake. I followed her, but her car must have been totally gutless as she didn't seem to be getting anywhere. The overtaking lane ended and she hadn't overtaken one single car, including the ones towing caravans and boats! Never mind I thought, I'll have another go at the next one.

So the next overtaking lane appears and this woman pulls out again and tries the same thing. I was starting to get a little frustrated by now as the overtaking lanes were quite long and provided plenty of time to overtake. But she just sat there puttering up the hill, blocking everyone behind her including me. I flashed her a couple of times but she still persisted in going nowhere fast. The overtaking lane ended and, yep, she still hadn't overtaken a single car. Stupid b***h I thought.

A third overtaking lane appeared and, you guessed it, she thought she'd have yet another go. By now I was getting pretty fed up so I flashed the lights a few more times, then starting honking as well (my language was a tad stronger at this point too, not that it made any difference). She ignored all of this and just sat there in the right lane until it ended.

I ended up passing her a few kilometres up the road using an overtaking lane for traffic going the other way (the lane was clear). I just wish I had been driving James Bond's Aston Martin and given her a couple of rockets up the exhaust pipe!

Merlin
14-04-2005, 11:12 AM
When i started this thread, i never thought it would attract this much attention.


I think it's been a good outlet for our rage! Should beome a sticky you can post in when you get pis$$@d off on the road!

So instead of punching the guy who cut you off, take a deep breath...relax and whinge about it on the internet when you get home - how theraputic :eek:

ROGUE
14-04-2005, 11:24 AM
Hey, if my thread stops just one incident of road rage, then i've made the world a happier place :lol:

Anyway, back to my Shaolin breathing techniques.... :confused:

VQ304
14-04-2005, 11:54 AM
This reminds me of an incident about 12 months ago travelling back from the south coast. I was in a long line of single lane traffic. When the overtaking lane came up the woman in front of me, driving some sort of Peugeot or something, pulled out to overtake. I followed her, but her car must have been totally gutless as she didn't seem to be getting anywhere. The overtaking lane ended and she hadn't overtaken one single car, including the ones towing caravans and boats! Never mind I thought, I'll have another go at the next one.

Yeah, something like that happened to me too. A line of cars was driving behind a truck down the highway, with one of those 4 cylinder 4WDs being directly behind the truck. Get to the overtaking lane (which was also an uphill stretch of road, who designed that...), she pulls out to overtake so I do the same, except the 4WD starts slowing down. It couldn't even maintain speed up the hill, it was losing speed... Then there's a sign that says 'left lane ends 200m' or something so I have to get back into the left lane to overtake her. So she originally wanted to overtake the truck, but ended up having about 3 cars overtake her instead :lol:

And regarding bikes lane splitting, I think it's dangerous even if the traffic is stationary. Sure, you're not going to have a car hit you when they're not moving, but you need to realise that cars don't know you're coming up behind them. If the traffic starts to move off then the car drivers will have no idea there's a bike there, unless they actually turn around and do a head check for no particular reason.

I had a bike do that to me just the other day... Sitting at a red light with cars around me, lights go green so I take off relatively quickly. After I get to the speed limit I look in the mirror and see that all the other cars are way back so I indicate left and start to move over. But then I hear a bike gun it and come flying past. I still have no idea how he got in my blind spot or what he was doing there in the first place, I didn't even know there were any bikes around. Yes I admit that it was partly my fault for not checking if anyone was there, but it's also partly his fault for riding in such a stupid place. You'd think a bike rider would know better than to sit in someones blind spot.

Evil LS1
14-04-2005, 12:44 PM
Other road users. I wish you would all drop dead and leave me to cruise in peace :p

cosmo vyss
14-04-2005, 12:45 PM
Like the subject says, what pisses you off the most from other road users?

For me, it's drivers that sit in the overtaking lane, or right hand lane on a double lane road, and do 10kmh less than the speed limit.

Nothing on the road annoys me more... :bash:

This just doesn't apply to road users it applies to all facets of life

IMCOMPETENCE peaves me no end
jb

vxcalaiszzz
14-04-2005, 01:22 PM
IMHO if you want to see some generally co-operative and courteous driving, Sydney peak hour traffic is pretty good example. I mean it does crawl along sometimes and there are always d!ckheads, but there's no fvcking around, the roads flow as good as they possibly can given the amount of cars on the road. There are rules to follow such as merging is allowed, though you only get a bit over a car length and you have a 3 second window to "use it or lose it". With bikes driving up the middle of lanes cars pull to the left or right of their lane to give the bike plenty of room to get through. Occasionally a tourist van or interstate driver will stray into peak hour traffic and standout like a rabbit caught in a high beam, but most regular commuters I think would admit it's pretty reasonable time to drive.

My pet hate in peak hour traffic is when you are at a green light but the road ahead is full so you can't cross in the intersection. You wait for the traffic ahead to start moving again, but in the meantime other people have taken it upon themselves to change lanes in the intersection in front of you, then the light goes red and your stuck for another couple of minutes. :mad:

Weekends is whole nuther story - hate it :mad:

Merlin
14-04-2005, 01:29 PM
you make me proud to be a Sydneysider (weep)

vxcalaiszzz
14-04-2005, 02:02 PM
you make me proud to be a Sydneysider (weep)

As Merrick & Rosso would say

We really really really love Sydney
We really really really love Sydney
From Eastern Creek to Oran Park
From WSID on Wednesday where we shred our tyres
We love it so much it sets our heart on fire
Sydney
We really really really love Sydney
We really really really love Sydney
We love it so much it hurts.

ShanghaiVZ
14-04-2005, 03:56 PM
Other road users. I wish you would all drop dead and leave me to cruise in peace :p

Mateeeeeeeeee! you are GOD in my eyes! :D :lol:

onezero
14-04-2005, 04:41 PM
Morons who are so keen to try and beat me from the lights that inch forward and eventually run the red. Ive had 2 ppl do that in the last 2 days! One old guy driving a camry sportivo with the cars full of kids, and an alfa 147.

Must have been watching those damn camry sportivo adverts again :bash:

Damn its satisfying waiting til the light goes green and still beating their sorry a$$ through the intersection :cool:

...wow, you're an even bigger hero then they are.

Black VU SS ute
14-04-2005, 05:17 PM
i hate it when i'm cruzie'n the speed limit at 70km, and some stuip person pulls out of a side street, then disides to accelerate off as slow as a snail, so u have to brake and slow down, and wait 500mtrs for them to get back up to speed.
or
merging lanes, when they're behind u and think they can pass u before the lane ends. I love putting the boot into it and don't let them just to piss them, and just to piss them even more slow down a bit after. :)

myles
14-04-2005, 05:39 PM
LOL!!!

This reminds me of an incident about 12 months ago travelling back from the south coast. I was in a long line of single lane traffic. When the overtaking lane came up the woman in front of me, driving some sort of Peugeot or something, pulled out to overtake. I followed her, but her car must have been totally gutless as she didn't seem to be getting anywhere. The overtaking lane ended and she hadn't overtaken one single car, including the ones towing caravans and boats! Never mind I thought, I'll have another go at the next one.

So the next overtaking lane appears and this woman pulls out again and tries the same thing. I was starting to get a little frustrated by now as the overtaking lanes were quite long and provided plenty of time to overtake. But she just sat there puttering up the hill, blocking everyone behind her including me. I flashed her a couple of times but she still persisted in going nowhere fast. The overtaking lane ended and, yep, she still hadn't overtaken a single car. Stupid b***h I thought.

A third overtaking lane appeared and, you guessed it, she thought she'd have yet another go. By now I was getting pretty fed up so I flashed the lights a few more times, then starting honking as well (my language was a tad stronger at this point too, not that it made any difference). She ignored all of this and just sat there in the right lane until it ended.

I ended up passing her a few kilometres up the road using an overtaking lane for traffic going the other way (the lane was clear). I just wish I had been driving James Bond's Aston Martin and given her a couple of rockets up the exhaust pipe!

Your stories are great! :lol: Had the same experience when travelling from Brisbane to Bundaberg and back again. For five hours those grey nomads towing their campervans held me hostage. They seem to have a brain freeze when they come to the overtaking lanes and forget what they're towing. Either that or they actually think they have more torque up their sleeves.

I lost count of the amount of times I had to bail out as slow moving campervans in the overtaking lane swayed side to side like a train ready to derail.

What a stressful trip. Starts out relaxing but a few campervans later and your blood pressure has reached an all time high. :lol:

THE308
18-04-2005, 06:59 PM
SAME SAME... Bloody SAME.
I don't know how learners are being taught these days, but I remember that my instructor always told me that the right hand lane is for overtaking only. If you're not overtaking then stay in the left lane.

Isn't it written in the traffic handbook somewhere???

My other pet hate is round-a-bouts and the fact that most people dont know the round-a-bout rules and pretty much just "hope for the best" when they approach one.

Keep left unless overtaking is a concept people seem to selfishly ignore. I know lots of Traffic Coppers. One in particular knocks off dozens and dozens a year for driving needlessly in the right lane. His pet hate is when they are well under the posted speed limit at the same time on a fine day. He allows people to travel 400 metres providing there is a right hand turn coming up and if they you don't turn, they're busted! And rightly so.

On a freeway it's a little different, but if you are driving well under the posted limit in good weather and are in the right lane, he'll give you a ticket too. The left lane is for doing 80km in a 100 zone.

Quite recently he was on his way to a job in a bit of a hurry (silent approach) in an unmarked car, and flashed his headlights at a car car sitting in the right lane dong 80km/h in the 100 zone, which was travelling exactly beside the car in the left lane, blocking the traffic flow. The driver waved his arms inside the vehicle, then the arm came out the drivers window and gave him the finger....... At that instant the job he was on his way to was cancelled, so he flicks on the blue and red flashers and siren and pulls the moron over.

Ticket 1. for arm out the window :lol:
Ticket 2. for hogging the right lane :lol:
Defect notice for cracked windscreen (top to bottom right in front of the driver) all because the guy chose to hog the right lane! If he had moved over or not even been there in the first place, he'd never have been pulled over. Some people are just arrogant, selfish fools!


The offence in Vitoria for hogging the right lane on the freeway is disobey Traffic Control Sign, I believe, cause there are stacks of keep left unless overtaking signs. Sadly, not enough people get tickets for it though, cause soooo many people keep on doing it!!!

sv285
18-04-2005, 07:08 PM
that turn on there rear fog lights and blind others from behind. YIEEE

my_Berlina
18-04-2005, 10:13 PM
Sadly, not enough people get tickets for it though, cause soooo many people keep on doing it!!!


Maybe they should convert all those in-accurate speed cameras into right lane abuse cameras. Even if they make it very trivially
stupid (only pick up for car with no one to left for 50m each way) the photo would be sufficient evidence on its own.

That should help balance the budget and be far more effective for road safety.

Dave !

plonkerchops
18-04-2005, 11:15 PM
forgot one...until I experienced it again tonight
people who stop/giveway to you and wave you on even though they have right of way :bash:
Theres an intersection In Margaret River, ( top of the hill for those that know)
and for some reason tourists stop, even though there is no stopsign/giveway sign for them , as theyre passing through the main street. and they ( try to ) wave you through .....until I thrust my hand out the window and point to the bloody stop sign that I have in front of me
Same again at the same intersection when youre waiting to turn right at the same stop sign, and giving way to traffic going straight across the intersection and they still wave you though BUT if youre on the other side of the intersection waiting to come across, anyone who is turning right across the intersection has this false belief that theyve waited long enough and all of a sudden its ' whoever was there first has right of way....many a word has been spoken across that intersection