04 Crewman V6 gas compatible?

[GR8M8]

I want to convert it to gas but my dealer has said I shouldn't do it, any thoughts out there, please.

thanks,Geoff.

[vzsv6]

Is it a VY (Ecotec) or VZ (Alloytec)?
If it is an ecotec then i don't see why it should be a problem. I'm not sure about the alloytecs, I haven't seen one on gas as yet and I'm pretty sure Holden don't offer factory lpg on them, so they must be incompatible with lpg for some reason.

[GR8M8]

Thanks mate, it is the VY Ecotec engine.

Geoff.

[Blackcrew]

I had LPG ordered on my VY because I had it on my ED Falcon,Consider these options, Extra maintenance,Cost of installation[$2800 for the VY after market],how long are you going to keep it and is it good for resale,loss of space,performance is lowered on both petrol and LPG.
I ended up pulling the pin on it,even with the high petrol prices I`m still happy with my decision.

[Venom XR]

Probably because he knows that the government is planning to phase out LPG - believe it or not.

[exploder]

Probably because he knows that the government is planning to phase out LPG - believe it or not.

You may want to let the Department of the Enviroment and Heritage in on this little gem as they are boldly predicting LPG will account 8% of all transport fuel usage by 2010 and have recently produced a new standard for LPG fuel.

Not to mention the Taxi industry and Woodside

[exploder]

I want to convert it to gas but my dealer has said I shouldn't do it, any thoughts out there, please.

thanks,Geoff.

BP have a cost calculator you can use,

http://www.bp.com.au/products/LPG/lpg.asp

may help in the decision?

[JazzaT]

I love my LPG powered cars, and I highly doubt I'll ever use petrol again. Espescially now it's so expensive, and there's so much crappy fuel out there...

Just remember, there's a whole range of after-market and custom made LPG performance products out there... ie cams, etc, aswell as very competent tuners who work specifically with LPG.

[PaulST]

Another member here told me that Holden was working on a dedicated gas AlloyTech engine by cost-cuts lead to that being canned. I'm fairly sure you can get a duel-fuel Alloytech through Holden By Design.

[vzsv6]

fairly sure you can get a duel-fuel Alloytech through Holden By Design.

I've had a look on the Holden website and can't find anything about lpg in the options list.

[mmciau]

Currently not on the horizon for the ALLOYTEC

Mike

[cashie]

The owners manual clearly states that Holden do not endorse/advise LPG with the Alloytec engines. Don't know why.....

[PaulST]

OK, I stand corrected.

[Ghia351]

The owners manual clearly states that Holden do not endorse/advise LPG with the Alloytec engines. Don't know why.....
Probably to stop any aftermarket conversions with the fear/threat of voiding warranty's until they have a chance to test components on LPG-fueled engines, especially valves etc where the dryness of LPG is problematic unless the engine is modified for LPG. With diesel even more expensive then petrol I can't see it as too long before Holden LPG factory fitted or approved systems are eventually released. And the Fed Gov's plans to add and gradually increase an excise on LPG to bring it in line with petrol not planned for a much later introduction, it's still worth converting to LPG on high mileage cars.

[cap302]

Definetly the way to go,have been driving some dedicated gas BA falcons at work,roughly 25 to 30 dollars to fill up and they are averaging around 450km's city driving.They take slightly longer to start and have not got the grunt of the petrol versions,but feel smother to drive,and its hard to notice the power difference in day to day driving. The more petrol rises the more seriously i am looking at getting a family vehicle on gas.

[GR8M8]

Thanks guys for all the help, I'm still looking into it and if I find anything else relevant I'll let you all know.

Thanks Geoff.

[mmciau]

Have a read of this recent exchange

Mike

Thank you very much for that clarification - I didn't know it was an EPA
issue

Thanks

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "thegas" <thegasman@bigpond.com>

Sent: 04 April, 2005 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: LPG Conversion Enquiry


> Mr McInerney,
>
> regarding your latest email concerning converting a VZ Holden to run on
LPG,
> the issue at the moment is not the manifold nor the material that it is
made
> of. The primary concern is that due to changes in the Australian Design
> Standards as of the start of 2005 any vehicle with a '05 compliance plate
to
> be fitted with a gas system must be fitted with a gas system that has been
> tested and approved by the Environmental Protection Agency.
>
> At this time Holden Australia are showing no interesting in standing
behind
> an aftermarket kit and as we previously mentioned, while a number of
> suppliers are looking at designing a kit, we have no time frame as to when
> this will be completed and approval granted.
>
> In the past and for non '05 vehicles we could look at putting together a
> customed designed kit if an existing kit did not suit, but under the new
> legislation this is no longer possible for '05 vehicles.
>
> We hope this makes things a little clearer at this time.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To: "thegas" <thegasman@bigpond.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: LPG Conversion Enquiry
>
>
> > thanks for your reply Gas Man.
> >
> > I asked because I understand the new Alloytec engine is not available
from
> > Holden by Design because it is reported to have a "plastic inlet
manifold"
> and
> > my last inquiry was met with "not planning to make dual fuel available
for
> the
> > VZ"
> >
> > If the manifold is composite like the V8 Gen III engine, then wondered
> what
> > options might be available from after market suppliers and installers.
I
> > understand there have been LPG conversions for the Gen III engines -
maybe
> you
> > can confirm please.
> >
> > Mike McInerney
>
>
>

[Blackcrew]

I had my ED Falcon on LPG ,it was all good.Doubtful about a Commodore though.