HSV Nationals

[black_knight]

I can't seem to see a lot of threads about the HSV nationals next week, not sure if anyone from here is all that interested.,,, but anyway,, I'll be going and I am a new member to the HSVOCV and I haven't done any track work or anything and my car is totally stock, but I found out today that I need to have it prepped as per track days to do the Lang-Lang work!!! :bash: I need some help:
Is the standard HSV (as per VYII Clubbie) extinguisher adequate for use and what is the best way of relocating it?
Where can I get a good value helmet, bonnet straps and blue triangle from in Melbourne?
How do I fit a harness whilst keeping everythign road legal?

I'd be interested to know how many of you are going...

Thanks!!!

[Ryzz]

Im going down with the HSVOC of NSW as per this thread (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=38164), or Or this one (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=33273)

Edit: As per the Lang Lang events, i dont beleive you need to conform to CAMS regs. Aka no Fire Extinguisher, etc see here (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=401269&postcount=21)

Hope this helps

[black_knight]

Thanks Ryzz, are you doing speed bowl etc at lang-lang?

[Ryzz]

Thanks Ryzz, are you doing speed bowl etc at lang-lang?
Sure am mate, see my above post, just updated it with more info re Lang Lang

[black_knight]

This is whats got me worried, emailed out today:

Holden Proving Grounds at Lang Lang Saturday April 23rd 2005
Event Regulations
The event committee reserve the right to issue further regulations, which shall have the same effect as these regulations. Further regulations WILL be issued upon registration at the actual event.
Vehicle Requirements and Scrutiny
All vehicles shall conform to the requirements of Section 6, Schedules A and B of the 2004- CAMS Manual, and additional requirements, in particular the following items:

1. All drivers are required to have a ZERO blood alcohol level and under no influence of any other drugs if they wish to access the Holden Proving Grounds
2. All vehicles must have safety checks prior to entering Holden Proving Grounds
3. Keys must be removed from ignition during safety check.
4. Two independent bonnet fastening systems on every rear hinged bonnet. Except cars as specifically approved by CAMS or which are fitted with forward hinged bonnets.
5. All loose objects must be removed from the vehicle and all fittings must be securely fastened.
6. Fitment of fire extinguisher complying with Australian Standards 1841 (extinguishers which meet A.S 1841.2 are NOT PERMITTED). The extinguisher must be of at least 900g capacity and MUST be firmly and safely secured within easy reach of the driver, preferably by metal brackets. (Note: BCF/Halon extinguishers are now illegal).
7. Tyres to be fitted with VALVE CAPS, preferably steel.
8. Cars must be fitted with a supplementary return spring on each throttle.
9. A blue triangle indicating the position of the battery or isolating switch. A blue triangle made of electrical tape is acceptable.
10. All batteries must be clamped; however they can be located in the boot.
11. No fuel, LPG, Brake fluid, oil leaks or substantial grease leaks
12. Brake lights and indicators must be working.
13. Seat belts must be in good working order.
14. If car is supercharged and protrudes the bonnet, all belts must be covered.
15. Tyres must be in good condition, no steel belts hanging out or canvas showing.
16. All vehicles must have a bonnet unless permission is given, if no bonnet, fan belts must be covered.
17. All vehicles must be fitted with a radiator overflow or water catch bottle and ensure there are no leaks from the rocker covers.
18. Brake and fuel lines must be at a safe distance from the exhaust and not leaking fluid
19. No driver changes may occur during participation of an event
20. Passengers are allowed in the cars during events provided they are OVER 16 YEARS OF AGE if they, or, if under 18 years, they and their guardians/parents, have signed their indemnity form, and all occupants are wearing a seat belt and helmet.
21. Drivers will be required to hold a full Australian driver’s license or a full International drivers licence.
22. No driver or passenger will take part in the event unless wearing a helmet, properly fastened and complying with AS 1698 standard specifications or other equivalent standard.
23. No driver or passenger will compete in an open car unless wearing a full face helmet with visor. All cars will be scrutinised between 1500 hrs on Friday and 0800hrs on the day of the event for safe and proper construction and meeting of these regulations. No car shall be permitted to practice or compete unless it bears evidence of this examination.

A COMPULSARY drivers' briefing will be held before the event commences.

Any cars immobilized on an event area will be removed by an official vehicle. Drivers must exit the vehicle and move to a safe distance from both the vehicle and the event area, but remain in close proximity to their vehicle to ensure its return to the parking paddock. Any car towed or trailered from the circuit during practice or competition through damage MUST BE RE-EXAMINED BY THE SCRUTINEERS BEFORE RETURNING TO THE EVENT AREA.

All cars shall be required to carry regulation competition numbers clearly displayed the window of the vehicle. Cars not bearing numbers considered adequate by the Chief Timekeeper may not be timed. Numbers must be removed before leaving the Holden Proving Grounds.
Safety Equipment
In the interest of safety in case of fire, all competitors and passengers will be required to be dressed in long-legged trousers and long sleeved shirts, or other outer clothing made of non-synthetic non-flammable material. No competitor or passenger will be permitted to practice or compete with exposed limbs. All competitors and passengers must be wearing suitable enclosed footwear - no thongs or sandals.
General
In all events, the fuel used shall be only commercial fuel being Premium Unleaded, Unleaded, Lead Replacement, LPG, and Diesel. The consumption of alcohol or any other drug in ANY area of the Holden Proving Grounds is FORBIDDEN. Any driver or spectator adjudged by the Clerk of Course to be affected by drugs or alcohol (or to have consumed alcoholic liquor prior to competing on the day of the meeting) shall be excluded forthwith from the meeting.

Any cost incurred by the organisers from the venue for repair or clean-up of the circuit or grounds, due to action or incident caused by a competitor, or competitors, will be the responsibility of the competitor, or competitors, to reimburse.

The organisers reserve the right to stop the event at any time they consider necessary in the interest of safety, or for any other reason.

Tender vehicles are to be removed from the event area immediately after unloading and be parked in the parking paddock as directed by the Clerk of Course. Smoking or naked flames shall not be permitted within 6 metres of any event areas. The engine shall not be running during the refuelling of any vehicle and all electronics must be turned off and keys must be removed from the ignition.

Note: Smoking is not permitted in any building within the Holden Proving Grounds.

If choosing to participate in Sunday’s track events, you will be required to complete and sign a form stating that you accept the conditions of, and acknowledge the risks arising from, attending or participating in motor sport events.

Motor sport is dangerous and accidents causing harm can and do happen and could potentially happen to you. We are there to enjoy ourselves and have fun, but safety is paramount. Please ensure you have read all of the above details and that you fully understand the requirement before participating.

Please note; in case of bad weather we will NOT be running the high speed circular track. The scrutineers and Clark of the Course decisions are final and no negotiations will be entered in to.

Much more detail will be provided during registration at the event and during the drivers briefing on Sunday morning.

Remember, we are all there to have fun, but safety come first!

People’s behaviour at this event will govern whether Holden will allow future Events to use their Proving Ground.

[Ryzz]

Hmmm, i never received this email which is annoying. The only thing that has me concerned is the two bonnet fasteners. What would be a second way to fasten the bonnet?

[seldo]

Just after a quick read of those supp regs, I can't see any particularly onerous requirements.. The only things that I have noted after 1 quick read are:
1. Fire extinguisher must be in reach of the driver.
2. Usual : full face helmet and long-sleeved non-synthetic shirt and trousers incl proper shoes
3. radiator over-flow bottle
4. car must basically be roadworthy with no leaks, good tyres etc.
5. zero alcohol level
6. 2 bonnet retainers - (1) the standard one and (2) the safety catch...... if you are really concerned, put a belt from your bonnet down to the number plate bracket or front-spoiler..(3)
7. a second throttle spring...
8. battery triangle from blue tape...
9. driver's licence...duh!

These fancy regs often seem a bit daunting, but one of the secrets to interpreting regs is to actually read them. most people are daunted by regs, but if you sit down and read them slowly and rationally, in many cases they do not even say what the author meant them to say.. so, you read them and re-read them until you are sure what they actually do say, and then plan your preparation around that. When I was competing many years ago I used to take the CAMS manual to the "library" with me as something to read and digest undisturbed....You'd be surprised what you will discover with some careful study. eg. many rules just say what you can't do....which is fine. As long as what you want to do isn't in the "can't do" bit, go for it.. Seriously, it is the best way to go quicker legally... ;)

[Ryzz]

6. 2 bonnet retainers - (1) the standard one and (2) the safety catch...... if you are really concerned, put a belt from your bonnet down to the number plate bracket or front-spoiler..(3)

One question Seldo, they actually state "Two independent bonnet fastening systems on every rear hinged bonnet". Does the Standard Bonnet release & Safety catch count as two INDEPENDENT" systems??

Thx

[hsv-105]

No the standard release and catch won't keep them happy.
An easy around it is to fit a car-bra if you have one or you can use nylon strap or a tie-down and loop it through the bonnet reinforcement,under the the Rad. support and around the front of the bar.
This meets the requirements without having to fit pins

Hope this helps,I'll see ya on the sunday

[Ryzz]

No the standard release and catch won't keep them happy.
An easy around it is to fit a car-bra if you have one or you can use nylon strap or a tie-down and loop it through the bonnet reinforcement,under the the Rad. support and around the front of the bar.
This meets the requirements without having to fit pins

Hope this helps,I'll see ya on the sunday
Thanks mate, car-bra might be the easy way out but its gonna look really ugly for all the photos!! Might have to get a decent strap. Should i just use a belt, some rope or what??

Thx

[fabian]

So in a nutshell, if I turn up with a standard VY11 R8 with 5000 Ks on the clock my car will not be eligable for entry?

[hsv-105]

A belt would be fine or go to Bunnings and get one of those straps with a similar buckle to a motorbike tie-down but with the lighter webbing, about 20mm wide will do the job.

[vsclubby355]

A belt would be fine or go to Bunnings and get one of those straps with a similar buckle to a motorbike tie-down but with the lighter webbing, about 20mm wide will do the job.


What he said. Thats what I do with mine and I don't have any problems.

[seldo]

A belt would be fine or go to Bunnings and get one of those straps with a similar buckle to a motorbike tie-down but with the lighter webbing, about 20mm wide will do the job.
Yep, that's the go. And remove your front plate (and rear too BTW..) and attach it at the plate mounting points...

[Clint]

Guys
Spoke to the VIC HSVOC President tonight re the CAMS requirements for Lang Lang. For guys without a fire extinguisher, he says you can go to somewhere like Super Cheap Auto and pick up a fire extinguisher for around $30, (he says the best ones are the ones in a metal sleve) and then 18" cable tie it to the front passenger seat rail. While your at it pick up some blue electrical tape and make a triangle - my SS is blue so i'm using white tape. Similar story with the nylon strap as per HSV-105. For anyone without a helmet, I called a motorcycle hire place in Nth Melbourne and they do hire just the helmet at $11 per day or of course you can buy a new one. I have the details at work, so if anyone needs them I can update the post tomorrow morning. Still not sure what to do about the second throttle spring though...

[Ryzz]

Guys,

All you need to know about the safety requirements for LANG LANG are listed in this thread.

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=441963

[vsclubby355]

Not long to go now..

[Ryzz]

For those that missed out...you missed out. Been a great weekend. Was a lot of fun going around the speed bowl @ 180Km/h (Didnt realise how fast 180 was until today!!) at lang lang!

Will post pics up later!!

[korrupt]

Have you posted any pictures yet? Looking forward to seeing some...

[GTS215i]

I have some but only of my car :p .... ryzz took plenty and there good quality unlike mine.

[Ryzz]

I have some but only of my car :p .... ryzz took plenty and there good quality unlike mine.
Ill post them up later on. got TONS!

[vsclubby355]

Ill post them up later on. got TONS!


Nice, looking forward to seeing them.

[brock05]

Ill post them up later on. got TONS!


so where are the pics ryan?? keen to see some as i didn't get down there.

[Ryzz]

so where are the pics ryan?? keen to see some as i didn't get down there.
Sorry mate, been flat out, will try get em up over the weekend. Got a ton of the VL Pics like you asked for as well. If you look over on Street Commodores there are some pics over there already (not mine though).

[vsclubby355]

If you look over on Street Commodores there are some pics over there already (not mine though).

Although some of your car. :D

[GTS215i]

Ryzz, dont forget any of the red VS apprently it was near your car..... :hide:

[Ryzz]

Ryzz, dont forget any of the red VS apprently it was near your car..... :hide:What red VS are you talking about mate, i dont remember anything worthy being near my car. I do remember some red rust bucket being parked near mine, i tried to not look out of sheer horror :hide:

[vsclubby355]

What red VS are you talking about mate, i dont remember anything worthy being near my car. I do remember some red rust bucket being parked near mine, i tried to not look out of sheer horror :hide:


Hey Ryan, was that the same red rust bucket that tried parking next to mine? :hide:

[brock05]

Sorry mate, been flat out, will try get em up over the weekend. Got a ton of the VL Pics like you asked for as well. If you look over on Street Commodores there are some pics over there already (not mine though).

no worries mate, i have seen the ones on SC but not really what i was after. You can just email me the ones i wanted if you don't want to post them up. couple of the old GTS would be good to.

email me here (brock05@bigpond.net.au) if need be.

[Ryzz]

PICS ARE UP!!!!

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/hsvnats

Go have a browse through them. Just kicked off the upload. All should be up by 11pm Friday evening.

[vsclubby355]

No motorsport pics :(

[brock05]

no pics of LEGRP3 ( VK Group A/3 ), was hoping to get some pics of it.

pretty good pics there ryan, looks like an excellent weekend.

i'm with vsclubby with the no motorsport pics thing anyone else out there have some they could post up.

[black_knight]

I didn't go on Sunday as Saturday was so sh!thouse.. so let me know what I missed out on.. was there many sponsor and on track displays or was it a normal motorsport track day??