Filling up - when to stop clicking??

[bigdog1971]

I have found when refueling my VZ SS Ute and the fuel bowser "clicks" off, if I am careful and do it slowly, I can still get about another 7 litres into the tank.
Now this is becoming a bit of a pain in the butt, as refuels are taking me so long and really pisses off those that are waiting for the pump behind me :bash: :mad: but I cant help myself as I must try to fill her right up every time, I try to keep good records of the fuel economy, and I feel that I will not be getting acurate figures if I dont top it right up.

Now my question is, is this a design prob or is it that fuel bowsers have become more sensitive. (I always try not to curse infront of the bowser when I get out of my car and see how much the Ultimate is. :lol: :lol: )
Does the ute have an overflow in the filler neck, and am I just pumping fuel onto the ground, although I have never seen the fuel coming out under the car.

Any answers :)

[mavss]

If the bowser has a problem, you'll notice it clicking off on a regular basis during the refill.

Otherwise, it'll click off when it senses moisture around the neck of the refueller.

I stop filling after 2 clicks otherwise you risk overflowing.

Also, I believe you're supposed to leave some air in the refueller - something about vacuum - not sure though.

[Ron]

I stop after 2 clicks as well, also as mav said you also have to leave room for the fuel to expand

[VYBerlinaV8]

What about if you're filling up on the side of the highway with several hundred km to drive? I generally fill several clicks in when I'm on a trip, as I figure I'll be burning fuel and making space immediately anyway.

Is this the right thing to be doing?

[Peter B - CV8]

If the car is not going to travel any great distance after refill, I usually just round it to the next full dollar or two after the first click.
If I'm on a trip or about to drive more than say 20k's then I trickle feed right up to the brim (carefully).

[BLACK 346]

If the car is not going to travel any great distance after refill, I usually just round it to the next full dollar or two after the first click.
If I'm on a trip or about to drive more than say 20k's then I trickle feed right up to the brim (carefully).

Thats the correct thing to do. As said above, unless
your gonna burn it straight away, you need to leave
room for expansion.

[uterus]

[QUOTE=bigdog1971]I have found when refueling my VZ SS Ute and the fuel bowser "clicks" off, if I am careful and do it slowly, I can still get about another 7 litres into the tank.


My ute (VYII) has the same problem, except mine takes an extra 10 litres. Took it to holden & they coulnt find anything wrong. Now I just live with it.

[bigdog1971]

uterus,
10 litres, see now that is a lot of fuel, nearly 15% of the tank capacity!!
Interested if our fellow 4 door friends have the same problem, or is it just us Ute drivers. If its the ute only, I suspect the filler neck has some design issues...

[VYBerlinaV8]

I suspect that the first click off is generally when the fuel froths from being pumped in. I generally wait a few seconds before continuing for the froth to die down. It seems to make the next click closer to the true fill.

[cev]

I always stop filling when I get the second click. Ive noticed with my old VN Commodore, once I let it click three times and the thing was leaking fuel when I got home like crazy.

When it clicks for the first time, I wait a few seconds, pull the pump out a bit to let some air out and then it refills pretty much everytime with another dollar or so and second click comes.

I have noticed several posts regarding fuel tank issues with the utes. I remember someone with a Crewman said they shake the car and get in another 10 litres :eek:

My sedan has never had a problem, stop pouring after second click and the needle is right on full, a bit over if lucky :)

[VQ304]

I stop at the first click, it overflows on to the ground if I try to put anymore in :eek:

Oh well, I rarely fill it to the top anymore anyway, with todays fuel prices it rarely sees above half.

[SV99]

I dont know in our VZ i just fill it up untill it cant take no more.

Considering the Fuel tank is empty when the guage says 1/2 lol

with a DTE of 230kms lol

:rolleyes:

[dvader8]

My VZ also drives me nuts.....it will click & take no more. Get in the car & the readout is only 3/4 full. I always fill up at the same servo, however on one instance fuelled at another & didn't have a problem in filling the tank full to the brim. My first service is approaching so it will be interesting what Holden has to say.

[cev]

My VZ also drives me nuts.....it will click & take no more. Get in the car & the readout is only 3/4 full. I always fill up at the same servo, however on one instance fuelled at another & didn't have a problem in filling the tank full to the brim. My first service is approaching so it will be interesting what Holden has to say.

Are you using the same pump at that same servo? Is it an older servo?

[dvader8]

Are you using the same pump at that same servo? Is it an older servo?


I am, as the Mobil servo (Glen Waverley) only has 1 PULP (98) pump. They now have PULP (96 ron from memory) but I'm not sure how good the stuff is.

[Nawdy]

I think it could be the angle of the filler pipe to the tank could be the problem. Utes of other makes also have the same problem, particularly traybacks. Do one tonners have this same problem as well?

[Airzoom]

My VY keeps taking a few litres after the first click.

[Pickles]

Obviously you can "trickle fill" beyond the first or second click,but of course if you do that,you run the risk of petrol all over your rear quarter panel,which sometimes happens anyway, when the auto pump cut off does not activate when it should!! For that reason,I never go beyond the first click.If you do this all the time,you will get a reasonably accurate fuel use reading.But I do realize that when on a long trip,isolated area etc,you may want to get in as much fuel as possible.Cheers,Pickles

[keenas]

I had a VY SS Ute and never a problem the fuel gauge worked perfectly and now with the VZ SS it is very different .....

Today I had 10 kms left in the tank (thats what is said on the dash computer) so I filled it up and I could only put in 52L it seems pretty weird when its a 75L tank (correct me if I'm wrong) ......

I let the pump click about 5 times and pulled the bowser handle out of the tank to let the air out about 2 times ....... fuel spilt on the side of the car which was washed off......

When I got back in the car the fuel gauge wasn't even at the full mark - seems a bit weird

Can someone tell me if this is standard or should be looked at .....

I'm very sure it should be looked at next time I get a service .............

[jsttry]

Shouldn't matter if you fill it right up or not, you should still be able to get accurate mileage by recording the number of kilometres travelled and the number of litres you used at the pump.

Agree it can be a pain in the butt though.

[StevieD]

This is obviously a defect that affects quite a few commodore utes.

My VY II SS has had this from day one. For the first couple of fills, I couldn't understand why when I filled up the guage read only 3/4 full.

So during the 1st month of ownership I ran it bone dry, and from dead empty could only get 55 litres in until it clicked.

The other 15+ litres took twice as long to get in as the first 55 (clicking like it's full the whole time).

When I fill up every time, it takes over 9 minutes at the bowser (which feels like 39).

I have taken it to one Holden dealership twice, and all they did was recalibrate the fuel guage both times which did jack.

Only yesterday I took my car to a different dealership hoping for a miracle and explained at great length the fact that this is a mechanical issue of some sort- that fuel can't physically fit in so don't bother with the fuel guage.

So what did they do? Replace the instrument cluster! What a great idea!

How much would that have cost? No wonder Holden is in financial strife.

Like the time I took it in for brake pads, and they 'accidently' changed the rear wheel bearings when nothing was wrong them.

[miss monaro]

I am, as the Mobil servo (Glen Waverley) only has 1 PULP (98) pump. They now have PULP (96 ron from memory) but I'm not sure how good the stuff is.
sometimes you will get a vapour lock in your tank which will let you overfill or a static charge which will keep your pump cutting out and you are unable to fill