Has anyone actually "lost an engine"?

[OzJavelin]

With all the talk here about piston slap and wrist-pin noise, has anyone here actually lost an engine because of this problem? I'm assuming that anyone astute to actually notice the noise would have done something about it long before it was a major problem; ie. only "grocery-getter" types who never check anything would loose an engine .. not people interested enough to be on this forum.

However I'm interested to know if anyone has ever damaged a piston/cylinder .. or even thrown a rod, spun a bearing, etc. Supposedly its the underlying fear we all have, but I've never actually heard of it happening?

Rod.

[Oldmonroman]

My neighbour Seized his engine with only 9000k on the clock, He rang me i went over and found No Oil in the sump (dip stick dry) see he never checked the Oil and because the Gen 111 use oil it simply ran out before the next oil change.
Otherwise I have heard nothing.

[Devil CV8]

My neighbour Seized his engine with only 9000k on the clock, He rang me i went over and found No Oil in the sump (dip stick dry) see he never checked the Oil and because the Gen 111 use oil it simply ran out before the next oil change.
Otherwise I have heard nothing.
didn't he wonder what that red light on his dash meant.... :rolleyes:

[fabian]

With all the talk here about piston slap and wrist-pin noise, has anyone here actually lost an engine because of this problem? I'm assuming that anyone astute to actually notice the noise would have done something about it long before it was a major problem; ie. only "grocery-getter" types who never check anything would loose an engine .. not people interested enough to be on this forum.

However I'm interested to know if anyone has ever damaged a piston/cylinder .. or even thrown a rod, spun a bearing, etc. Supposedly its the underlying fear we all have, but I've never actually heard of it happening?

Rod. I had a VT 11, Clubsport first of the Gen 111s and it dropped a rod and the rest is history. needless to say after the head and piston replacment it went like a s#i% off a shovel, damm thing had a freak motor. never missed a beat for the next 60000 ks.

[SLE355]

Seen a cop car drop a valve and another cop car drop a rod.

[plonkerchops]

my ute ended up leaving my house on a flat bed truck. It was blowing oil out the dipstick ( would have shot the dipstick out the tube if the bonnet wasnt closed ) with a quite substantial ' dank :bash: dank :bash: dank ' coming from the left hand bank ...and the engine was hot ....buggered rings / piston (?) not really sure :eek:

[THE308]

My neighbour Seized his engine with only 9000k on the clock, He rang me i went over and found No Oil in the sump (dip stick dry) see he never checked the Oil and because the Gen 111 use oil it simply ran out before the next oil change.
Otherwise I have heard nothing.

That's VERY excessive oil consumption in just 7500km, remembering the level would / should have been checked at the 1500km inspection service at the dealership!

[mmciau]

Seen a cop car drop a valve and another cop car drop a rod.


That's interesting - surely the rev limiter would stop that occuring unless of course plonk selected a lower then low gear on a down change and popped a rod from over revving!

Mike

[paul05]

:rolleyes:

[SLE355]

That's interesting - surely the rev limiter would stop that occuring unless of course plonk selected a lower then low gear on a down change and popped a rod from over revving!

Mike

Thats exactly what happened in both cases :eek:

[Merlin]

I'd swear I'd lose mine if it wasn't bolted down :rolleyes:

[VX-300]

Yeah but one piece at a time. stock 300kW C4B
incident a) Broken rocker (one replaced)
incident b) Broken valve spring (16 replaced)
incident c) Camshaft pitted with hardfacing flaked off, 2 lifter rollers pitted and flatspotted. Lord knows what sort of bottom end scoring etc.

c) Today at 70,000km 6months out of warranty. Always Mobil 1. No racing or abuse either.
*sob*

[clixanup]

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:rolleyes: :D

[THE308]

Yeah but one piece at a time. stock 300kW C4B
incident a) Broken rocker (one replaced)
incident b) Broken valve spring (16 replaced)
incident c) Camshaft pitted with hardfacing flaked off, 2 lifter rollers pitted and flatspotted. Lord knows what sort of bottom end scoring etc.

c) Today at 70,000km 6months out of warranty. Always Mobil 1. No racing or abuse either.
*sob*


Re: c) Especially given the mileage and also a) & b) I'd be contacting HSV and asking them for some asssitance. 70,000km simply isn't good enough at all! After all, HSV should be claiming from the company contracted to make the Cams for them.

[SLE355]

Yeah but one piece at a time. stock 300kW C4B
incident a) Broken rocker (one replaced)
incident b) Broken valve spring (16 replaced)
incident c) Camshaft pitted with hardfacing flaked off, 2 lifter rollers pitted and flatspotted. Lord knows what sort of bottom end scoring etc.

c) Today at 70,000km 6months out of warranty. Always Mobil 1. No racing or abuse either.
*sob*

All to common im afraid, got one in now with incident c) :rolleyes:

[OzJavelin]

All to common im afraid, got one in now with incident c) :rolleyes:

You've kidding!! What the hell causes this? I'd assume a VX 300 has an immaculate service history??

Rod.

[VX-300]

Yes you assumed correct. Always serviced as per the book by the right qualified people.
Does anyone know the specs of a C4B cam......so I can shop for something better this time ?
Pretty please ???

[plonkerchops]

Yes you assumed correct. Always serviced as per the book by the right qualified people.
Does anyone know the specs of a C4B cam......so I can shop for something better this time ?
Pretty please ???


http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=39209

try this, Sonny posted it a couple of days ago

[SLE355]

There was a thread on this awhile ago, some say its from Mobil 1, i'm not sure. This car is out of warrenty and Holden wont pay for the cam and lifters, although they are paying for the bottom end to be rebuilt with a rebore and oversize pistons as its shot.

[THE308]

There was a thread on this awhile ago, some say its from Mobil 1, i'm not sure. This car is out of warrenty and Holden wont pay for the cam and lifters, although they are paying for the bottom end to be rebuilt with a rebore and oversize pistons as its shot.


NFGE........ Not Flaming Good Enough!!!!

Lift your game Holden.

[GTS52]

I had new piston and rings fitted under warranty on vxgts at 60,000 due to excessive oil consumption ,5 litres over 10,000k . I would have hoped they at least checked for problem c at that time !!

[THE308]

I had new piston and rings fitted under warranty on vxgts at 60,000 due to excessive oil consumption ,5 litres over 10,000k . I would have hoped they at least checked for problem c at that time !!


Be thankful you didn't make the mistake of buying an XR-8. The Blueprint coloured Victoria Pollice Special Mobile Anti Road Toll (SMART) cars LOVE to drink oil, anywhere from 3.5lt per 10,000km to 11.5lt per 10,000km!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[SLE355]

NFGE........ Not Flaming Good Enough!!!!

Lift your game Holden.

Well the customer rang HSV, and HSV have told Holden to pay for the cam and lifters. BTW this car is out of warrenty.

[THE308]

Well the customer rang HSV, and HSV have told Holden to pay for the cam and lifters. BTW this car is out of warrenty.

Good!

Even if the car is out of Warranty, 70,000km in a well maitained vehicle (with records to prove it) is nowhere near good enough for this type of problem! Just because the 3 yrs is up doesn't create a mitigating circumstance. It's the meagre 70,000km that's the issue.


We've got a problem in one of our cars which Holden hasn't been capable of fixing for 70,000 km. The 3 yrs is up and now they're trying to fob us off. (loosing case records, changing case numbers, changing case managers, continually not returning phone calls) Being out of warranty isn't necessarilly the get out of jail card for the maufacturer they try to bluff you about it being. They've had 3 yrs to fix our issue and haven't. That's the real point.

If we'd bought our car in California, the law would have required us to have been given a replacement new car by now!!!! Our laws in Australia re faulty new vehicles are PI$$WEAK. Holden and Ford know it and use the system to exploit us customers.

[SLE355]

I agree, Holden should have covered it first up, especially on a known problem.

[OzJavelin]

Told my Dad (old-time mechanic) this one about the cam failure. Said this happened regularily on early Clevelands. Nice to see technology has progressed a lot since 1971. :(

Rod.

[plonkerchops]

Told my Dad (old-time mechanic) this one about the cam failure. Said this happened regularily on early Clevelands. Nice to see technology has progressed a lot since 1971. :(

Rod.

and just about every Holden engine up to the VN :D