40km/h over the speed limit in Qld.

[Aloof]

Guys I'm wondering if anyone here has been done for doing over 40km/h over the speed limit in Qld. I understand that it is an immediate loss of licence but to me that is a very harsh punishment for what I feel could happen to anyone at the wrong moment.A friend of mine got caught on the M1 doing 139km/h whilst going around some dimwit doing 105k's in the fast lane. The copper told him that 1 more km/h and it would have been a court appearance.

What i'm asking is whether there is an appeal process or can you apply for a day licence? If I lost my licence it would mean my job.

Before anyone says to drive at the speed limit I must say upfront that I usually do. Usually! I'm sure most people here have had there car beyond 140km/h on a public road so at some stage everyone has taken the risk.

All this crap about hoons and heavy fines/penalties for speeding has got me sh*t scared. Every time I drive in Europe I come home annoyed with the way this countries politicians make speeding such a big deal.

By the same token if a speeding motorist hit my son in a school zone I would want his blood. What i'm saying is that people should be allowed to exercise some judgement.

[ROARZ]

My 2c is that 139 is beyond exercising judgement, and 105 in the fast lane is more than enough already around the city. That dimwit could have been me, because I tend to sit on 103 or 104, but then again, I don't "hog" the fast lane either. The one that really gets me is the approaches to the e-toll lanes on our motorways. See the 80 sign, obey the law and slow down, nearly get hit up the bum, see the 60 sign, obey the law and slow down, nearly get hit up the bum again. Geez - you would think that people would realize that these places in particular would be perfect for speed cameras... Anyway, if your friend is in such a hurry that 139 is perfectly acceptable, then if they do the crime they can do the time; clearly it's a value proposition. Sorry, enough of my gibberish...

IF you lose your license, you can apply for a day license, as long as you can demonstrate real hardship and a lack of ability to use public transport. I knew someone who lost a license for DUI for a couple of months, and there was NO public transport options between their home and their place of work. Under those circumstances, a special license was granted, but VERY strict rules were applied (hours, distance travelled, pathways, etc).

I hear you about Europe and even the USA, but quite frankly our roads are nowhere near the quality of SOME of their roads. The notable exception is that Brisbane to Gold Coast highway.

[markone2]

Should you feel the need for speed around Brissy, feel free to join us.....at Willowbank :)

[SV8VY]

There is no "day licence" for work anymore.This is a myth.
If your licence is taken away look for other transport.

[SSFreak]

I hear you about Europe and even the USA, but quite frankly our roads are nowhere near the quality of SOME of their roads. The notable exception is that Brisbane to Gold Coast highway.

It's interesting that you say that about US roads. I know a guy who spends 6 months of every year working in the US and he does a lot of driving. He has said that the roads in the US are no better than the majority of Australian roads. He also said that many of the Americans he works with have been to Australia and they can't understand why our speed limits are so low. However, they're also amazed at how many single lane roads we have.

I've never been to the US so I wouldn't know. FWIW.

[Devil CV8]

There is no "day licence" for work anymore.This is a myth.
If your licence is taken away look for other transport.
This thread is about Qld, so who knows what the toads can do. But you are correct for NSW, no day/work license. And the probation license is only available for points related losses, not the license suspensions from over 45 over, over 30 over, and 130km/h.

[ROARZ]

My statement about day license is based on a CURRENT holder of such a license in Qld.

[ROARZ]

I've never been to the US so I wouldn't know. FWIW.

My comments are definitely FWIW as well. I lived in SFO for six years, and drove extensively through California and Nevada. I also did a trip from SFO to Kentucky via Highway 80 and then back again through the south (in a Corvette). If nothing else, at least the US has Interstate highways that are dual carriageways with two lanes each way. It's a CRIME that our government can't give us ONE dual carriageway from Cairns down to Melbourne and then across to Perth. It's no wonder so many people die on the M1 in Australia. No problem taking big bucks from us in each state for speeding, but ask for just ONE dual carriageway around the country and we get told how expensive it would be... Where's all that infrastructure they like to talk about...! :eek:

[SV8VY]

My statement about day license is based on a CURRENT holder of such a license in Qld.
Damn bannana benders get all the breaks :lol:

[mid life]

Geez - you would think that people would realize that these places in particular would be perfect for speed cameras... .

And they soon will be. Fixed speed cameras are planed for the approaches to the toll booths on the gateway bridge as soon as the legislation to allow fixed speed cameras on Qld roads is passed.

Be warned.

[markone2]

My statement about day license is based on a CURRENT holder of such a license in Qld.

I also know a Holder of such a license.....Drink driver..note! 1st offence only,you will not find such leeway the 2nd time around with a drink drive offence.

[LuKeY]

Personally, i think you just shouldn't speed in the first place

[Vx_Adonis]

Personally, i think you just shouldn't speed in the first placeI

I bet youre one of the many people who believe all the 'speed kills' crap theory...
In afew years you will grow up and realise that governments only want to shaft people with bullshit propoganda, which you believe.

[VX2VESS]

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I bet youre one of the many people who believe all the 'speed kills' crap theory...
In afew years you will grow up and realise that governments only want to shaft people with bullshit propoganda, which you believe.

It is a way to make money and has become unfair in its application.

There are some roads, some times, some conditions for some drivers that being caught is money making. Sometimes you can go faster the what the sign says, and the extra speed would not cause an accident. say a two lane seperated hwy with no cars around and a long straight at 2 am, the driver experinced, yet gets caught doing 10 over on radar and has to pay. two years ago the raod was 110kph now is 80 kph just to catch more ppl.

on the otherhand some drivers should never go more than 20kph top speed, at 60 they are dangerous anywhere.

[Merlin]

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I bet youre one of the many people who believe all the 'speed kills' crap theory...
In afew years you will grow up and realise that governments only want to shaft people with bullshit propoganda, which you believe.

That being said 40km/h over is excessive and you would deserve what you get.

[phillipg]

The other idea is get rid of all road rules and we do as we please, I do agree some roads should be higher speed limits but as said before 40 over the limit there is no excuse in the book that will get you off that

[markone2]

The other idea is get rid of all road rules and we do as we please,


Nope…...just have the speed limits set by the appropriate qualified Road Engineers …not revenue hungry Pollies

[YIIR8]

Or.....move to the top end :lol: :lol:

[Vx_Adonis]

totally agreed - or better still, pass a law that makes it compusory that all fines
the governments get must go to overseas aid or charities (id like to see that!).

[HSV,_I_GOT_ONE]

I'm a little with Aloof here, I know its easy to think 40k's over is excessive when looking at it on paper. BUT with our cars 40k's over is the difference in holding WOT for that extra 2 seconds. Maybe not from 100 but how many people have tried merging or tried to get through a set of lights or even just tried getting in front of a few other motorists at just a set of traffice lights. That sprint from 0 or even 60 doesnt take long to hit 100. I've been guilty of this a few times and when I realise how quick I'm actually going I do hit the brakes. Sure if you're going that speed constantly then yeah the book should be thrown but if its just to merge on or get out of a potentially hairy situation and you get zapped or flashed then its a bit harsh.

[alexcs]

if he was booked on a well formed divided freeway, and wasnt doing 40 over past other cars, just by himself, not much point in booking him. its about driving to conditions, which includes not having a big speed difference between you and cars you pass. if you do 150 on a sparse freeway and slow to within 5-10kmh to pass other cars on a divided road, there is no increased danger, except for perhaps king hitting a roo, but then thats life :)

i know i know, this will never happen and i may have just given a couple of people anuerysms, but really driving to conditions would be a lovely concept if we didnt have such a culture of mothering and litigation. i can dream cant i? :cool:

[VYSSBlack]

No problem taking big bucks from us in each state for speeding, but ask for just ONE dual carriageway around the country and we get told how expensive it would be... Where's all that infrastructure they like to talk about...! :eek:

I can tell you where the money is goin in SA. They have just invested in 72 fixed speed camera/red light cameras :eek: that will be placed at intersctions that have traffic lights. I didnt think we had that may intersections down here. It will be interesting to see if the road toll drops, I personally doubt it.
Maybe they should have invested that money into driver training as Kellogs have been handfing out too many licences down here.

[Nawdy]

i know i know, this will never happen and i may have just given a couple of people anuerysms, but really driving to conditions would be a lovely concept if we didnt have such a culture of mothering and litigation. i can dream cant i? :cool:

Don't just dream it - you can do it! The place? The NT... :D

[QIKMIK]

(In 1997) I got booked for 142 in a 100 zone outside Toowoomba. 4 points and $180. I think the rules may have changed since then so I'd guess now it would be an instant holiday. Mine was cause I was on my Ps and had already lost one point for a non-speed related offence.

Mick

[ED]

Lucky boy you are Mick!!! The fines for speeding have gone through the roof up here too. I do remember someone doing 50+ over the speed limit just recently and having to pay a fine of more than $2500. But that may have been for other things too!! Just checking on the qld transport web site and its 40kmh over - fine of $700 + 8 points and 6 month suspension of license.

[mundi316]

You definatly need to move to the NT
Was doing 140kph after overtaking a lady driver doing 70kph in an 80kph zone. Was just a brief spurt in 4rth gear and shit im doing 140kph, then double shit cops come over the rise in the road.
Anyway end result booked for doing 112kph $150 fine $10 victim levy, whoever the victem was hell knows.
Musta caught the cops in a good mood i think.

[THE308]

Don't just dream it - you can do it! The place? The NT... :D


Ah yes, the NT where they are smart enough to realise Highways are meant to be enjoyed, :bow: rather than using them to exploit and fleece motorists like the rest of the country so unconscionably does under the disgraceful veil of safety. :mad:

Absolutely loved the drive up last year when we went up for the Supercars. I drove the 1180km leg from the Alice to Katherine in 7.5 hrs. Yes it was quick, but that lovely long, wide and straight Hwy is fantastic. For those of you who haven't had the pleasure, you've never lived!