three window display

[gtr355]

hi guys i have only got a single window display in my dash, like most of you. but i was wondering if it is a simple job to put a three window display in.is it as simple as just changing the dash itself to say a 3 window item.thanks

[Gareth@Willall]

hi guys i have only got a single window display in my dash, like most of you. but i was wondering if it is a simple job to put a three window display in.is it as simple as just changing the dash itself to say a 3 window item.thanks

Yes its a very easy job...... Might need tech2 to reset the airbag light tho.

[gtr355]

so is it just a simple job of swapping a single window unit over to a three window unit.also what is tech 2 and what happens if i dont get the airbag light fixed up right away.will the airbags not work?

[DaveHAT]

so is it just a simple job of swapping a single window unit over to a three window unit?
YEP.


also what is tech 2?

Tech2 = Device Holden techs use to programme the dash to the specific car. (i.e number of airbags etc) Calais/Berlina/VXSS have 4 airbags, so if you fit the dash into a SS with only 2 airbags it will register as a fault-X.

Also programmes the dash to accept the wheel size for the car (i.e. 16's 17's etc.)


what happens if i dont get the airbag light fixed up right away.will the airbags not work?

Not sure, but given that the airbags are a safety device is it a risk you want to take?

[gtr355]

definately not.thats why i enquired about them.so when i put my wheels on(19s)i will have to go to holden to get my speedo calibrated to suit.that can be done with tech 2 right?whats it cost to do this by the way

[Red-Drop]

Yes its a very simple job did it in my vy ss. What you do have to do is be ccareful ensure you get the right one for your car the vy series one uses a different fuel sender that the series 2.
If yo donot get the right dash your fuel sender will not work. But it gets more difficult than that. The fuel sender did not change at the the instant that the series 1 changed to 2. Also you need to take your car to a service center and have them run tech 2 on it so that they can set your ks and calibrate all of the other intsrumentation (before the dash hits 100kms or they cant set the kms).

My advice is let your service centre supply and fit for you.
Because if they get you the wrong one you have some one to blame and can get the right one.

I got stung bad i got my dash cheap 500 bucks or so. But it cost me another 120 getting it recalibrated twice which did not fix it i then spent another 250 on getting the fuel sender replaced with a S2 one.

MAKE SURE YOU GET THE RIGHT ONE IS WHAT IM SAYING!

Hope this helps

Ash

[DaveHAT]

definately not.thats why i enquired about them.so when i put my wheels on(19s)i will have to go to holden to get my speedo calibrated to suit.that can be done with tech 2 right?whats it cost to do this by the way

Not sure about the 19's. Will depend alot on what sixe wheels you currently have and also whether your car is an auto or manual. PPK value has an upper limit but I'm unsure what it is.

A more accurate way to calibrate your speedo would be to get one of the forum sponsors to do it through the PCM (may as well get e tune while you're at it :D ) As a result cost while be variable depending on who does the calibrating. I think you'd need to speak to Sam's or Dick's electronics to get a $$$ price on that.

As far as changing them over goes, if you can operate a phillips head screw driver with relative success, you should be able to do this. From memory there are only 9? screws that hold the dash facia on, & 2 screws holding in the cluster. The rest is just remembering to unplug the switches etc. as you go and don't force things. Send me as PM if you'd like a bit more detail.

PS As red drop said there are also factors to consider if it's a VT/VU/VX cluster swap or a VY cluster swap.
Cheers.

[gtr355]

well im planning to go from a series one vx ss manual dash to a vx clubsport dash.i know id have to use a manual dash so would i have to get the series one dash also? or are the dashes all the same from vt/vu/vx v8 cars.

[DaveHAT]

well im planning to go from a series one vx ss manual dash to a vx clubsport dash.i know id have to use a manual dash so would i have to get the series one dash also? or are the dashes all the same from vt/vu/vx v8 cars.

I think it should be fine. If your car has traction control, make sure the cluster you fit has the traction control abilities. You don't neccasarily need to buy a manual dash. I fitted a Calais dash (auto) to my manual VTSS & it had the shift indicators in the centre, I just swapped the dial face to suit the manual.

Good luck with it.

[gtr355]

ok so i have just read that u cant have a dash that reads over 100kms on it.so does this fully rule out the idea of using a used dash?

[DaveHAT]

ok so i have just read that u cant have a dash that reads over 100kms on it.so does this fully rule out the idea of using a used dash?

Not really. Buying a new programable cluster is ideal, but other options available to you are:
1. Try & buy a used cluster with similar km's as your existing one.
2. Keep your old cluster as proof that the cluster was changed.
3. Sign a stat dec. at the time of sale stating that you have changed the cluster and that the kilometers aren't genuine.

The used cluster question only becomes an issue if at the time of sale you misrepresent the kilometres on he car. Doing the above options should solve the problem for you.

[drone14]

ok so i have just read that u cant have a dash that reads over 100kms on it.so does this fully rule out the idea of using a used dash?

As I understand it you can install and reset a cluster with any amount of kms on it, but once you have installed it in your car you cannot drive more than 100kms before you get the tech2 to reset the value.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.

[cashie]

As I understand it you can install and reset a cluster with any amount of kms on it, but once you have installed it in your car you cannot drive more than 100kms before you get the tech2 to reset the value.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Only clusters with less than 100kms total on them can be reset by Tech2.

[DND]

When you change over to the 3 window Cluster what do you get in the other 2 windows ?

[CLUBRED]

View of the ocean.

[GMMAD]

When you change over to the 3 window Cluster what do you get in the other 2 windows ?
instant fuel usage
average fuel used
litres used
litres left
there is more but I cant think of them

[DND]

View of the ocean.

The Indian or pacific ? :feedtroll:


instant fuel usage
average fuel used
litres used
litres left
there is more but I cant think of them

ThanX M8 :goodjob:

[DaggaZ]

one of the only reasons i wasnt going to get a vy ute is because it dosent have the 3 window display..

so you dont need to change the BCM or anything like that?

i thaught with the vt exec the other 2 windows didnt work if u plugged in a calais dash.

[Sixes350]

Looks like all you need is a Tech2 to program the K's.

Im looking at getting This Dash (http://holmart.com.au/online/prod44.htm)

[johnv]

Looks like all you need is a Tech2 to program the K's.

Im looking at getting This Dash (http://holmart.com.au/online/prod44.htm)

As long as the odometer has less than 100kms on it ,the odommeter reading can be reprogramed with a tech II to read the same k's as your current odo, over that you would have to find a speedo specialist to alter the reading.

the teck II will need to be used to turn off, climate control (if your vehicle does not have it) and alter the airbag settings to match your vehicle and any othr features that may be different . or fault lights will come up.

[berroca]

instant fuel usage
average fuel used
litres used
litres left
there is more but I cant think of them

average speed
trip time
time to arrival

[sv8tom]

average speed
trip time
time to arrival

Hi guys sorry to re-hash old thread but I'm wondering if i were to transfer a vy ss s1 cluster into a vy sv8 s1 and both vehicles had 4 air bags will i still need to use a tech2 and also if just say i were to put the ss one in then decide it's not my thing could i put the original sv8 one back in without having to source a tech2? Thanks again.

[caaf]

I would assume so as there would be a mismatch between the cluster and the BCM.. Only a guess ;)

[OPTIMUS]

I would assume so as there would be a mismatch between the cluster and the BCM.. Only a guess ;)
BCM doesnt check the cluster, if you have it plug it in and find out wont do any harm. IF worried about the airbag issue disconnect the Airbag fuse.

[sv8tom]

Ok great, thanks for the help:)