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BlueVZSS
16-06-2005, 10:11 PM
I spent the day at the Mt Cotton Driving Centre in Brisbane participating in The Porche Driving Experience so I thought that I might share a little of the experience with you all.

Firstly, let me say that this event is probably about the most fun you can have with your pants on. I got to drive every current model in the Porche range in a variety of situations. Yep, that's right...every model :) ...Boxster, Boxster S, 911 (997 model), 911 twin turbo (996 model but still the current one, Cayenne and Cayenne turbo.

The event includes three primary activities:
- A Gymkhana (basically a big carpark with a course set up with witches hats);
- A road course (primarily used by QLD Police for driver training). Lots of blind corners, twisty bits, off-camber corners and some straights. It runs up and down hills; and
- A skid pan circuit. (very slippery as they wet it down then throw diesel on it).

Everyone of these activities is huge fun. We has three groups of about eight with each group undertaking each activity and then rotating onto the next. We each took turns in the different cars and everyone got to drive everything.

There were four race drivers employed as intructors and they were very helpful, surprisingly calm and even more surprisingly quite happy to let us drive to our limits and sometimes beyond. The instructors gave us training and tips and I think everyone learnt some valuable lessons.

Driving a 911 turbo at about 200 odd km/h then braking hard into a downhill hairpin turn is guaranteed to get your adrenaline levels up I can tell you and if that doesn't do it for you then a hot lap with Craig Baird behind the wheel certainly will.

I thought I might give you some of my impressions of the different vehicles while they are still fresh in my mind:
- Boxster and Boxster S. One of the biggest surprises of the day and most peoples favourite. This Boxster has perfect 50/50 weight balance (front to rear) and this makes it a very chuckable vehicle. It is pretty quick off the mark, brakes well and the handling is very nuetral. I suspect that a lot of people underate these but I would take one home in an instant. I easily mowed down an underdriven 911 through the corners on the road course with the Boxster and I wasn't losing ground on the straight. I was considerably quicker in the gymkhana event in the Boxster than in a 911 and clocked the fastest time of the day in the Boxster;
- 911 (997 model) and 911 turbo (996 model); These are phenomenal road cars with power, grip and braking ability to burn. They tend to hang the tail out a litttle under heavy acceleration but there is plenty of notice and it's all very controllable. The 911 turbo is extremely fast if driven hard and deceptively so. It's only when you start braking hard that you realise how much speed you are washing off. The 911 turbo was my personal favourite; and
- Cayenne and Cayenne turbo; another real surprise package. They are actually very quick in a straight line, handle way better than they should for a 2 ton plus vehicle, brake astonishingly well and can go anywhere off-road (we were treated to a very rigorous demonstration of their off-road abilities by one of the instructors.

All in all I highly recommend the experience and hope at least some of you get the chance to do it some time. I apologise for the length of the post but it is something that doesn't come along often in life for most of us.

SV805
16-06-2005, 10:23 PM
BlueVZSS,

What was the cost and was it a speacial event or can it be organised by anyone when they are running them????

By the way.........Lucky Bastard..........

Great to here how much fun you had and I am sure the driving instructors enabled you to get more out of them and push harder than if they weren't there.

BlueVZSS
16-06-2005, 10:34 PM
BlueVZSS,

What was the cost and was it a speacial event or can it be organised by anyone when they are running them????

By the way.........Lucky Bastard..........

Great to here how much fun you had and I am sure the driving instructors enabled you to get more out of them and push harder than if they weren't there.

It was a Corporate Event so it cost me nothing :cool: but I think that you could get a maffless tune for the money (about $1,500 I think I heard). I think anyone can organise one if you have the numbers and the money. They have the Driving Centre for about 50 days a year.

Yes the instructors were great and made a big difference. They have got some guts those guys; to get in cars travelling at high speed with drivers of very variable experience driving on difficult roads. I take my hat off to them.

Ryzz
16-06-2005, 10:34 PM
On behalf of all the members of the LS1 Forums "You Bastard" :lol: :lol:

Sounds like a blast mate, i envy you like nothing else!!!

bobbyvtls1
16-06-2005, 10:34 PM
i had a mate do that one day, he said it was an absoulote ball. but for the price he paid i wouldn't do it. if memory serves me well it cost him over 2 grand, but i may be wrong, i just know it cost shit loads

BlueVZSS
16-06-2005, 10:40 PM
On behalf of all the members of the LS1 Forums "You Bastard" :lol: :lol:

If it makes you feel any better, and I'm sure it won't, the calf muscle in my left leg is currently cramping from all the heavy left foot braking :eek: Anyway :booty: to you :lol:

Ryzz
16-06-2005, 10:50 PM
If it makes you feel any better, and I'm sure it won't, the calf muscle in my left leg is currently cramping from all the heavy left foot braking :eek: Anyway :booty: to you :lol:
Nup, still Jelous!!! :bash:

Kirium
17-06-2005, 12:25 AM
I remember on "The car show" on channel 9 they had a segment on the PDE. It looked like such a great experience...

Great write up mate...

Now who do you work for and how do i get a job?? :D

SV8VY
17-06-2005, 07:49 AM
Good review.
Would have been a top day for sure and I hope someone took pictures for you :stick:
In my limited experience on the track with the SV8 the standard Boxter goes well around corners but lacks acceleration on a straight line.
They push hard from behind and then disapear down the straight.
Are they speed limited?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/aussiefones/track%20day%202/2.jpg

BlueVZSS
17-06-2005, 08:16 AM
Good review.
In my limited experience on the track with the SV8 the standard Boxter goes well around corners but lacks acceleration on a straight line.
They push hard from behind and then disapear down the straight.
Are they speed limited?


I actually thought they were pretty good in a straight line, not as quick as the 911 (997 model) or 911 turbo (996 model) but they certainly weren't embarrassed. I didn't find the speed limiter if there was one but the longest straight was about 1 km long with a chicane set up about 1/4 of the way into it. To give you an idea, we were hitting the top of 4th gear in the two 911s. If they are speed limited then I think you would need a longer straight to find the limit.

SV8VY
17-06-2005, 08:27 AM
I actually thought they were pretty good in a straight line, not as quick as the 911 (997 model) or 911 turbo (996 model) but they certainly weren't embarrassed. I didn't find the speed limiter if there was one but the longest straight was about 1 km long with a chicane set up about 1/4 of the way into it. To give you an idea, we were hitting the top of 4th gear in the two 911s. If they are speed limited then I think you would need a longer straight to find the limit.
I manage 200 km to 205 on the straight in Eastern Creek if I get the last corner right and have noticed with 4 to 5 Boxters they just seemed to run out of steam as soon as we hit the straight.
They love the corners and seem to stop well with the brakes they have though.
One was pushing me hard and I had a moment around turn 2 ..but then I caught up and got him on the straight. :D

VooDoo
17-06-2005, 08:35 AM
I did the PDE a few years ago when the boxter was first released (Sponsored by Erricson), I was amased how much the boxter understeered. Overall it put me off them as i couldn't see 130k in one. My biggest problem was how close the peddles were together as id hit the brake and loud peddle a few times. I was equally amased how well the 911 twin turbo handled. The 911 is awesome. Back then it went from 0 -> 100 -> 0 faster than HSV could get to 100. I took the hairpin at the bottom end of the track at 100+ and it corners like its on rails. Heading for that corner at WOT and the instructer is saying "hold it flat" and then WAY after you would normally have braked he says stand on it and "bang bang bang"from the ABS and you still take it at 100 + then its WOT again for the next corner.

Well worth doing this just for the experiance, You can also do it in Merc's, MG's, Honda's and HSV's i believe.

Must be skidpan time again soon......

NickS
17-06-2005, 08:38 AM
I go to Queensland every 2 months for work, this is something that I have wanted to do while up there for a long time ... just making me want to do it more now!

Thanks BlueVZSS ... tops post. But I agree with Ryzz, still jealous :driving:

ssvyredute
17-06-2005, 07:47 PM
It was a Corporate Event so it cost me nothing :cool: but I think that you could get a maffless tune for the money (about $1,500 I think I heard). I think anyone can organise one if you have the numbers and the money. They have the Driving Centre for about 50 days a year.

Yes the instructors were great and made a big difference. They have got some guts those guys; to get in cars travelling at high speed with drivers of very variable experience driving on difficult roads. I take my hat off to them.


my two mates have just booked in for the event.they paid $1250 each

BlueVZSS
18-06-2005, 05:51 PM
I did the PDE a few years ago when the boxter was first released (Sponsored by Erricson), I was amased how much the boxter understeered. Overall it put me off them as i couldn't see 130k in one. My biggest problem was how close the peddles were together as id hit the brake and loud peddle a few times. I was equally amased how well the 911 twin turbo handled. The 911 is awesome. Back then it went from 0 -> 100 -> 0 faster than HSV could get to 100. I took the hairpin at the bottom end of the track at 100+ and it corners like its on rails. Heading for that corner at WOT and the instructer is saying "hold it flat" and then WAY after you would normally have braked he says stand on it and "bang bang bang"from the ABS and you still take it at 100 + then its WOT again for the next corner.

Well worth doing this just for the experiance, You can also do it in Merc's, MG's, Honda's and HSV's i believe.

Must be skidpan time again soon......

We had the just released Boxsters to drive and I thought they handled very well. They may have improved in recent recent years. I agree about the 911 twin turbo. They are an absolute weapon of a road car. 0-100 in about 4.2 seconds and 0-100-0 in about 6.?. The instructors certainly encourage you to push the cars which was very surprising to me. Braking into that hairpin corner at the end of the straight is certainly an experience.

If you are organising a skidpan event, count me in. I had a ball doing that. Don't know how good the diesel would be for the duco though :eek:

HRT Stroker
18-06-2005, 06:12 PM
When they throw me the keys to a Carrera GT I'll be int it! :drool: :drool:



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