Commodore Cruise Club spirals out of control

[VLWagonbeast]

Hi People,

A word of warning for those who are consideraing taking their immaculate late model LS1 rides to a cruise run by the Commodore Cruise Club. As the numbers of this gathering have quickly reached 400 cars plus, the Committee now holds no control over the behaviour of members and other attendees which the Committee claims are not members. The result has been that people cruising with the club are being attacked savagely and various objects, especially coins, are being thrown at their cars.

At the last cruise a member was violently attacked by a group of ten men and found himself recovering in hospital the next day. The Committee calimed no responsibility and basicially said that it is not their job to protect members.

Additionally, one member was hunted all night by a group of men after he made a comment about their car alarm going off too frequently. These men baited the victim by allowing the alarm to go off further. Luckily this guy was smart enough to steer clear.

At the cruise before that, a guy was attacked by 20 guys and his car windows were all smashed, for no apparent reason. Again, the committee claimed they had no responsibility for protecting this member and basically said "badluck".

I attended these cruises and found the atmosphere to be very unfriendly and aggro.

So if you guys dont want your beautiful new rides (or your head and face) looking like one of their beat up VL rustmobiles, I suggest you stay clear, no matter how tempting.

[myles]

Some guys think by owning a particular car and disliking another's car, the person driving the other car must also be a piece of crap as well.

They haven't yet worked out that disliking a car doesn't mean the hate should extend to the driver. (The driver also might not even like the car that much)

In my experience, thinking causes these guys great difficulty so everything has to be solved with their snarls and fists. Sad but true.

[VooDoo]

With all the shit ive read lately about the CCC im glad i'm not a member, wont ever be and will never attend their cruises. The whole "hacked by SC" was so funny. Shows what happens when P platers start running web sites.

[OLS108]

With all the shit ive read lately about the CCC im glad i'm not a member, wont ever be and will never attend their cruises. The whole "hacked by SC" was so funny. Shows what happens when P platers start running web sites.
100% agree, and HAY i am a P Plater :lol:

[Elite SS]

[QUOTE=VLWagonbeast]Hi People,

I attended these cruises and found the atmosphere to be very unfriendly and aggro.

I have been on so many cruises with a variety of different clubs and have never experienced such a thing.
99 % of the people who I have attended or met at the cruise or charity run have all been very supportive and enthusiastic about the whole event, the other 1 % you never see them again,I don't know how the people in Victoria tolerate that crap But I'm pretty sure here in NSW they wouldn't get away with it that easy.
People like that are not welcome to our cruise's, if they show no respect to the owner's and their cars they are not welcome.
We have enough drama with the Police we don't need it from D**K**d's

[JBonDSS]

the also was an interest article in a local paper - out doncaster way,
about a car park that Vic road closed specificly to keep CCC clowns out, locals sent letters it vic roads about & they took action,

"enthusiasts" like these are the reason rest of us car heads get shit from old ladies, cops, soccer mum, & our partners

[qik_sv8]

Never been on a cruise for that reason - THE D*CKHEAD FACTOR -

Not saying all car club cruises are the same but you just dont know whos organising them and/or whos going to attend

[VLWagonbeast]

Its fine if a cruise is organised by a well established car club on a sunday morning, but these saturday night cruises are full of 18-20 year olds who have had way too much alcohol.

[BEN 189]

I have been on numerous cruises in Sydney and we have never had any problems whatsoever. we just had on on Saturday for red nose day and raised over $1000, it was very well organised and a great cruise. Disappointing to here about VIC cruises. Cruise to SYD :lol:

[GTS215i]

I have been on numerous cruises in Sydney and we have never had any problems whatsoever. we just had on on Saturday for red nose day and raised over $1000, it was very well organised and a great cruise. Disappointing to here about VIC cruises. Cruise to SYD :lol:

You generally don't get any problems in Vic either. Most car clubs, associations etc who organise a cruise are all done in a well organise manner and attended by enthusiast who are there to chat and enjoy there cars.

You get the bad element in every club and group but you can minimise it by how its managed and conducted in the public eye. Some just don't do themselves any favours.

[Elite SS]

It's good to hear that the "Red Nose Appeal" Cruise went well, excellent work done by "Slacka" and his crew of helpers, unfortunately I couldn't attend this year due to work comittments.
It's also good to hear that there was no dramas from "unwanted" attention.

I have always enjoyed the company of good people & I intend on enjoying it for the next 20 years, so D**K**D's please stay in your holes....

[Elite SS]

Unfortunately certain things don't change...
About 20-25 years ago we in Sydney used hang out at place in on the Hume Hwy in Lansvale called "Jilly's".
Some of the tuffest streeters would come from as far a Canberra and The North Coast once a week to show off their toys, we had everything from
Blown BIG Blocks bolted to Toranas/Capris etc,295/15/60 tucked under the ass, twin 4's were as commom as Shakers, the name brand were Crower, edelbrock,Holley & Pacemaker,PRO shops like "Custom Image""Brads Speed Shop""American Auto Parts" "SuperFlo Heads" just to name a few, 450 Hp. you were KING of the hill we a lot of the old "Street Machine" cover and issue cars would hangout there, no problems from the cops or any of the authorities, until one or two of the "Gunners" & "Tryhards" would throw Oil on the road and do a burnout , and that was it no-were to go for a few weeks till the heat wore off.
the neighbourhood having enough of the stupdity of these people they had the place shut down 31/3/1987 I think, and there's never been a place like it,
and probably never will.
Ufortunately a lot of car enthuisiast will never get to experience smething like that, because these Morons still exist and always will, and we have to pay the price for it...

[essess8]

ive been attending them since around cruise 13-14 it was ok back then when it was only a 100 or so cars. now that is so big no one has any control over it and the atmosphere is shocking there, you dont know if you should talk to someone for fear of them belting you. i still go just to the starts though just to catch up with some ppl and see some cars but overall i dont think i would ever cruise with them, the driving on it is nothing short of pathetic :rolleyes:

[cutter bob]

this is one of the reasons we have the validated section... to keep the D**KH**Ds out ;)

[HRT Stroker]

this is one of the reasons we have the validated section... to keep the D**KH**Ds out ;)


That and those bastard Nazi Moderators on here........ :lol: :confused:







:hide: :jester:

[humalog]

i think its pretty unfair to stereotype a whole club on a single event, i have been involved with many clubs and been on the CCC cruises aswell.

For those who failed to read the Manningham Leader article, the police wrote in in

"the club is a great family atmosphere and social event, we are even considering reducing our presence at their cruises"

now for a few of you to post up and say the opposite..is abit far fetched... there have been a few recent incidents involving people brininging personal problems to meets.. and most recently.. a person was bashed after everyone left a meet point, and the member was bashed by another Car club known apparently as DAMSTR8, they were also charged. it was a childish reason involving someone's gf..

so i dont see how those problems can be attributed to the club as a whole, the police continually praise the behaviour of CCC and support their meets 100%.. and the media articles back this up, its a minority of residents who feel there is 2 much noise and obviously they complain as there houses are opposite the meeting point.

CCC has now been offered the "councils carpark and storage facility" to hold all its meets, underground carpark,using their building,etc etc to hold meets and have full control over who is allowed in and whos not.

there are fights every week at the football.. does that stop you going to that aswell?

ignorrance gets you nowhere...

[HOTSV8]

Unfortunately certain things don't change...
About 20-25 years ago we in Sydney used hang out at place in on the Hume Hwy in Lansvale called "Jilly's".
Some of the tuffest streeters would come from as far a Canberra and The North Coast once a week to show off their toys, we had everything from
Blown BIG Blocks bolted to Toranas/Capris etc,295/15/60 tucked under the ass, twin 4's were as commom as Shakers, the name brand were Crower, edelbrock,Holley & Pacemaker,PRO shops like "Custom Image""Brads Speed Shop""American Auto Parts" "SuperFlo Heads" just to name a few, 450 Hp. you were KING of the hill we a lot of the old "Street Machine" cover and issue cars would hangout there, no problems from the cops or any of the authorities, until one or two of the "Gunners" & "Tryhards" would throw Oil on the road and do a burnout , and that was it no-were to go for a few weeks till the heat wore off.
the neighbourhood having enough of the stupdity of these people they had the place shut down 31/3/1987 I think, and there's never been a place like it,
and probably never will.
Ufortunately a lot of car enthuisiast will never get to experience smething like that, because these Morons still exist and always will, and we have to pay the price for it...


Memories ..... those were the days . Used to drive up from the "Gong" occasionally .

[pagey]

Well.. I was (un) fortunate enough to witness this family atmosphere not too long ago... great if your family apprecaites foul language, illegal & downright dangerous driving, drink driving and blatant damage to surrounding propery including my lovely Nana's house! :mad: (had to stop Nan from going out and "giving them a piece of her mind! :lol: )

So.. I have drawn my conclusion.. thanks.

[VLWagonbeast]

i think its pretty unfair to stereotype a whole club on a single event, i have been involved with many clubs and been on the CCC cruises aswell.

For those who failed to read the Manningham Leader article, the police wrote in in

"the club is a great family atmosphere and social event, we are even considering reducing our presence at their cruises"

now for a few of you to post up and say the opposite..is abit far fetched...
ignorrance gets you nowhere...

The Manningham article was a highly critical article with only one positive remark from a cop at Park n ride where behaviour is always good because of the high police presence. It is once the cops disappear at later meet points that the trouble begins.

[lucas]

Its fine if a cruise is organised by a well established car club on a sunday morning, but these saturday night cruises are full of 18-20 year olds who have had way too much alcohol.
Exactly ... so long as we keep ours starting 8-9am on a Sat/Sun morning, I'll feel pretty comfortable about the crowd :)

[Mimo]

this is one of the reasons we have the validated section... to keep the D**KH**Ds out ;)

I suppose you think you're better since being validated then :p

From one slightly bemused D**KH**D

[davep]

The Manningham article was a highly critical article with only one positive remark from a cop at Park n ride where behaviour is always good because of the high police presence. It is once the cops disappear at later meet points that the trouble begins.

You're right. It was highly critical. However, who's opinion do you trust more, a journalist for a local rag who spent 5 minutes on the CCC website and got it so completely wrong that she thought the "l-plate", "p-plate" system of ranking post numbers was actually in fact a representation of people who were on their P's and L's, or a respected local cop who has attended CCC meets for the past 2 years?

-dave

[VLWagonbeast]

You're right. It was highly critical. However, who's opinion do you trust more, a journalist for a local rag who spent 5 minutes on the CCC website and got it so completely wrong that she thought the "l-plate", "p-plate" system of ranking post numbers was actually in fact a representation of people who were on their P's and L's, or a respected local cop who has attended CCC meets for the past 2 years?

-dave

Dave, you would have been there at #40 outside highpoint when everyone exiting the carpark was expected to do a burnout. For 20-30 mins the place was smoking like a bushfire. People were going berzerk. Dont tell me about what some cop said. When the cops blink, there is always someone ready to do a burnout or throw a punch.

[roity]

Don't be overly quick to tarnish the entire CCC over the action of a few.

CCC is not the only car club to experience such problems.

Be careful about what you beleive from journalists, we all know what certain current affairs shows on TV are like when it comes to publicising car enthusiasts activities. The quality of some of the journalism is pretty poor with some very stupid quotes in the articles...

There might be only one line of support from the police in the article, but CCC fully co-operate and liase with the Police.

I have been in the car club since day 1 back in 2001 and helped the club start up. I also joined LS1 around the same time. Both clubs have there vast differences, but the CCC is not wholly just a pack of "di*kheads"...

This is just a problem phase at the moment that I'm sure will be resolved.

:mad:

[O5BRKY]

The Manningham article was a highly critical article with only one positive remark from a cop at Park n ride where behaviour is always good because of the high police presence. It is once the cops disappear at later meet points that the trouble begins.
KNOX Leader /Post also had an article about CCC around there meetings @ Stud Park, ashame some d#ckh#$ds ruin it for others. I've been on the Victorian Torana Club cruise which are only organised now and again and the atmosphere is good, people who just love there cars and admire one anothers pride, I think CCC has unforuately tooo many crusies..

[roity]

AFAIK CCC have temp. suspended arranging cruises.

[O5BRKY]

Hope it works Roity, do you still run the web page??

[roity]

I do not soley run the webpage anymore. I primarily did until early 2003. There are 2 others looking after the forum setup.

In short - I do help out with the forums a little from an administrative point and I am supposed to be the head moderator! Trust me, that's no easy task...
:confused:
I also do delve in the running of the club, but not a hell of a lot.
:D

[Ls1CorpCruiser]

Must admit I used to love the MCCR and CCC cruises as well, till they got out of control...

and the language~~~

took the family to the Cruise for a cure in 2002/3 and within 5 minuites the wife was saying can we go home now?

The language from CCC tag alongs nd their driving skills left a LOT to be desired. Hence the family has never wanted to take up the offer for a cruise again.

If you want a family atmosphere or even just a "pleasant one" you need to keep the dropkick out. That is the hard part coz by their own nature they deliberately go out of their way to find out where the events are to be held and then turn up to create havoc all around for those that are there for good times and intentions.

Just my .02c :mad: :mad: :mad:

[humalog]

it is hard to control over 500 cars.. as CCC aint the police, they cant control ppl's behaviour... they do try thier best... but there is only so much you can do.. the police are drafting up a letter at the moment supporting CCC to put forward to all local councils in regards to us using some of their carparks ..etc etc..

with the new meetpoint CCC is in the process of organising, it will be on Private Property, and CCC will have the power to ask ppl to leave, or refuse entry.. as its an enclosed carpark..with huge hall for food/drinks, CCTV recording, etc etc.. so it should be great for the club and everyone else..

We do try our best to make the cruises as uneventful as possible.. but its not easy... alot of ppl tagalong are not aware of the rules or what the club is about..they sjust assume its the "dande drags"..or something along those lines!

anyway.. CCC has raised alot of money for charities and helped out where possible.... they have a Show n Shine being organised by the Vic Police coming up soon which is being held to raise funds for Blue Ribbon.

give them a go... as the guys behind CCC do try their best..

just like the guys behind this great forum/club

[MYVYSS]

Dave, you would have been there at #40 outside highpoint when everyone exiting the carpark was expected to do a burnout. For 20-30 mins the place was smoking like a bushfire. People were going berzerk. Dont tell me about what some cop said. When the cops blink, there is always someone ready to do a burnout or throw a punch.


mmm VLWagonbeast did you sign up purely to slag off at CCC...if so mate...well done well done :bash: ...I guess you would be in the minority of people who we refer to tag oners...ones who only come for the trouble....you see both instances of problems in recents weeks were the direct result of people NOT associated with CCC, its almost like the tall poppy syndrome...cause its the biggest everyone wants to cut it down....

I have attended numerous cruises and can CONFIRM I HAVE never seen anyone drink driving, ok language is not the best...but I have heard equally bad on Big Brother, take the family to the V8 Supercars or any decent motor sport event, and I guarantee you will hear some pretty nasty stuff....as for the behaviour, all in all you put that many YOUNG people, in a highly charged environment with all the cars and the like and YES you get a couple of doughies or the odd burnout, but sheesh I get them in my street most nights by single cars....grow a brain....

I have an Idea maybe instead of doing something constructive with their Saturday nights...it might be better for all 500 of them...to maybe start taking drugs, doing graffitti on walls at the local train station, walking down Chaps picking fights for no apparent reason...

I swear everyone picks on them for enjoying their cars, and then complains about the other half who appear to be set on a desctruction course in life, these kids cant win. you dont like it dont COME, with 400 cars or the like you are NOT going to be missed and most likely we didnt know you were there in the first place.

Give them a break and maybe just maybe they might grow up to be respectable people who have the ability to communicate in a group environment due to the social interaction on a Saturday night, if not we might all end up just living out lives by email and posting on forums DAY AND NIGHT....

just my 2 cents....

[NickS]

I suppose you think you're better since being validated then :p

From one slightly bemused D**KH**D

Mate, I am pretty sure he wasn't saying that everyone who isn't validated is a D**KH**D ... he just means that having the validation system offers some control over who turns up at certain events. It stops anyone that wants to finding out about and turning up at events that they are not welcome at. Don't take offence, I am sure none was meant.

[CCC Manager]

Hi there guys l am the manager of CCC, so l will just put my 2 cents worth in, firstly l am 42 years old, not wennie but yes the past two cruises have had there problems, and they were caused by outsiders, we are going to rectify this situation by holding the cruises now at a private venue which l am organizing, and the size of the cruises will shrink but thats unfortunate but we do have to change things now, only ccc members will be able to acsses the meet point, and we will control who comes in, by use of a sercurity firm so you can come along and feel safe, and be assured no one will touch your cars. It would be a shame if these younger kids could not have these meets anymore cause of dickheads, so we will cut the numbers back, as we do have a good rep with the police and intend to keep it. As for the events being unfriendly thats hard to beleive as l walk around these meets and people are mostly having a good time, so you should remember before you judge it only takes one or two dickheads to ruin something which has up till now been preety good.

[pagey]

ccc.. 2 things.

1.) your account name will no doubt shortly be cancelled.
2.) no one has any valid reason to believe you are who you say you are. Not having a go at you.. just stating the obvious.

If what you say is correct.. then great stuff.. hope it all works out. However as I posted earlier.. I have made my mind up already.. although being based in Brissy... I'm sure my presence will not be missed :)

[DaveHAT]

Mate, I am pretty sure he wasn't saying that everyone who isn't validated is a D**KH**D ... he just means that having the validation system offers some control over who turns up at certain events. It stops anyone that wants to finding out about and turning up at events that they are not welcome at. Don't take offence, I am sure none was meant.

Agreed. Validation allows cruises to be organised with people who are like minded and generally a known quantity. Thus eliminating the types of neanderthals that have been described, who set out to ruin cruises and generally make public arse clowns of themselves.

Just out of curiosity, this is ls1.com.au isn't it? Why the hell are we discussing the goings on with other forums? Shouldn't threads be kept to ls1 related subjects and let CCC sort themselves out? Just a thought. :rolleyes:

[NickS]

Just out of curiosity, this is ls1.com.au isn't it? Why the hell are we discussing the goings on with other forums? Shouldn't threads be kept to ls1 related subjects and let CCC sort themselves out? Just a thought. :rolleyes:

Fair enough, although, as keeps being mentioned in this thread, a lot of the public do not differentiate between car clubs at all ... i.e. "their all the same". So in a way any thing of this nature will have an impact on the public perception of LS1.com.au as well. But I agree, lets focus on LS1 and let the guys in charge of the CCC sort the problems out.

[Elite SS]

I suppose you think you're better since being validated then :p

From one slightly bemused D**KH**D

I think what "Cutter Bob" is trying to say is any body here that causes unwanted drama they get Deleted off the site.

[Elite SS]

Here's a suggestion for all the clubs

Club Regulations :

1 / Club members only to attend meets and cruises.
2/ A club member who has been with the club for a period of time an (under management approval) bring an addttional person/s if the person is willing to become a member.
3/ Security at the event
4/ A list of participating entrants.befor the event take place
a : Full Name
b : contactable phone No.
c : Reference (has to be a member)
5/ A private meeting place were only the members get the details an.
Email or PM.
6 / DO NOT ADVERTISE THE EVENT ON THE YOUR FORUM.
Email or PM
7 / If security is out of the question/ Contact the LOCAL police station and let them know that the event will be held and app how many people will attent. (if trouble accurs let them know and let them deal with it)
8 / DO NOT serve alcohol at the event, try and prevent any been consumed.
9 / Deputies Marshals to for the event to deal with certain situations.

10/ Management to always remain strict with the guidelines.

This system has worked for me for almost 20 years as a "Crowed Controller"
I have worked with some of the Best Security Personnel on some of Aust. Biggest events, and never had this kind of drama that I have heard on this site.
So hopefully my little list will help some of the clubs in their next Event.

Regards

Goran

[VQ304]

What a stupid topic... I attend CCC cruises and not once have I ever felt threatened by anyone.

Not really anything I can add that hasn't already been said in here... If you don't like CCC then good for you, don't let the door hit you on the way out. I'll keep going on the cruises and continue enjoying them.

[myles]

What's stupid about a topic which lets people have their say? That's what forums are here for and topics make the forum interesting and interactive.

What some people deem threatening another person views as acceptable. One can walk through the worst parts of town at night and not feel threatened, but another person younger, older, or even the same age may feel uncomfortable, who's right in the matter? What most people agree upon usually becomes the community standard. Regarding small altercations, does letting them go unnoticed lead to standards getting progressively worse?

Working in many community events over the years, personally I've seen a big increase in the lack of respect for others. Instead of the theme, 'let's make an effort to make this a great event' is ruined by the few who take the approach 'who gives a f*** about everyone else, they can f*** off.'

If it includes people, you make an effort to include everyone. Those who don't want to include everyone should have their own get together at the end of their street.

Elite SS (Goran) is in the right direction with suggestions to try make the event better.

[cutter bob]

I suppose you think you're better since being validated then :p

From one slightly bemused D**KH**D


i dont understand why people are getting up set.....whats wrong with Blatantly stereotyping half the forum :confused: :lol: :lol:

nickS, tiger ss, Elite SS summed up what i meant

thanks guys

[roity]

ccc.. 2 things.

1.) your account name will no doubt shortly be cancelled.
2.) no one has any valid reason to believe you are who you say you are. Not having a go at you.. just stating the obvious.

If what you say is correct.. then great stuff.. hope it all works out. However as I posted earlier.. I have made my mind up already.. although being based in Brissy... I'm sure my presence will not be missed :)

No doubt this thread will be locked or similar as I can see it possibly getting out of hand too. :rolleyes:

For all intensive purposes, the post by "CCC Manager" looks genuine to me based on what he's said and the way he's written the message ( :lol: yeah he aint great at posting ).

I also don't see why this topic should be removed etc. because it's about CCC. Good to see it hasn't gotten out of control itself... There's no real point debating this issue here either, as it will only get more heated and abusive.

I wont comment any further, and hopefully look forward to seeing CCC operate a bit cleaner going forward.

[KiWi]

Roity, you know i could say so much but i wont.

[Ghosn]

Roity, you know i could say so much but i wont.

Me too... :)

[Elite SS]

This thread wasn't meant to Bag CCC or any other club or Forum, just a discussion on how these events turn sour because of IDIOTS to turn up unwelcomed.
Unfortunately these things happen when the numbers get to big and nobody want to take responsability or action to prevent it, no critizem meant to any body, but facts are facts.
Like it was said before it happens at football matches and other events and the Media thrive on it, bad news travels faster than good news , how often do you ever hear about the Charity events that the car enthusiast arrange and attend with no appreciation from the MEDIA or the public, unfortunately very little.
Regardless if this topic is brought here or any other car Forum the the problem still exists and every body should have their say and opinion on the subject,as long as it doesn't get to personal... I MYSELF AS MANY OF THE OTHER FORUM READERS ARE NOT GOING TO JUDGE A CLUB BY SOME OF THE NEGATIVE FEED BACK THAT COMES FROM THIS SITE OR ANY OTHER.

I enjoy the car club scene as I have for thew past 25 years and intend on participating and enjoying the company of fellow car enthusiast young or old for a long time to come.

Regards

Goran

[VQ304]

What's stupid about a topic which lets people have their say? That's what forums are here for and topics make the forum interesting and interactive.

I agree, but all this topic is going to do is tarnish CCC's reputation even more. In fact I'd even suggest that's the reason it was posted, just look at the wording of the original post, it sounds like a slanderous newspaper article.


What some people deem threatening another person views as acceptable. One can walk through the worst parts of town at night and not feel threatened, but another person younger, older, or even the same age may feel uncomfortable, who's right in the matter? What most people agree upon usually becomes the community standard. Regarding small altercations, does letting them go unnoticed lead to standards getting progressively worse?

Mate I don't even like walking through the city at night because of all the people who'll punch you for just looking at them. But again, I've never felt threatened in the slightest at any CCC cruise. The worst thing I've ever seen was someone saying "**** off" after being told to turn their stereo off. That's it. None of these attacks which seem to happen so often. Only one has actually been proven to be true, and even then it had nothing to do with CCC, it was the result of a different car club coming along to cause trouble.

Don't get me wrong, I do think that things can be done to improve the CCC atmosphere. I'm not saying everyone there act like angels. It's certainly not as bad as this topic has made it out to be though.

[Clutchboy]

your account name will no doubt shortly be cancelled.

Why? What has he done? Will you cancel my account name shortly? :confused:

[chops]

I believe THIS THREAD (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=40770) will answer the question as to why pagey believe his stay may be short.

[MYVYSS]

I believe THIS THREAD (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=40770) will answer the question as to why pagey believe his stay may be short.


I think you may be wrong...CCC is not a business.....

[SV8VY]

Unfortunately certain things don't change...
About 20-25 years ago we in Sydney used hang out at place in on the Hume Hwy in Lansvale called "Jilly's".
Some of the tuffest streeters would come from as far a Canberra and The North Coast once a week to show off their toys, we had everything from
Blown BIG Blocks bolted to Toranas/Capris etc,295/15/60 tucked under the ass, twin 4's were as commom as Shakers, the name brand were Crower, edelbrock,Holley & Pacemaker,PRO shops like "Custom Image""Brads Speed Shop""American Auto Parts" "SuperFlo Heads" just to name a few, 450 Hp. you were KING of the hill we a lot of the old "Street Machine" cover and issue cars would hangout there, no problems from the cops or any of the authorities, until one or two of the "Gunners" & "Tryhards" would throw Oil on the road and do a burnout , and that was it no-were to go for a few weeks till the heat wore off.
the neighbourhood having enough of the stupdity of these people they had the place shut down 31/3/1987 I think, and there's never been a place like it,
and probably never will.
Ufortunately a lot of car enthuisiast will never get to experience smething like that, because these Morons still exist and always will, and we have to pay the price for it...I remember those days.
I was young and had a Pontiac with a 400 chevy in it.
People were actually racing for pink slips as I recal :eek:
Never had any problems there in those days as people just admired the cars.

[Devil CV8]

I also don't see why this topic should be removed etc. because it's about CCC. Good to see it hasn't gotten out of control itself... There's no real point debating this issue here either, as it will only get more heated and abusive.
I think the main reasoning behing why ths thread should go, is it concerns another club (forum etc etc) and really has no bearing or effect on ls1.com.au.
same as threads have been closed (I'm nearly certain they were, anyway)when ff went through a few dramas and became aff, so should this thread be closed before it keeps the mods busy.

Just the thread heading can be interpreted as having a go at ccc.
I have nothing to do with ccc, haven't been on their cruises (a bit far away) so I won't comment beyond this.

[Elite SS]

I remember those days.
I was young and had a Pontiac with a 400 chevy in it.
People were actually racing for pink slips as I recal :eek:
Never had any problems there in those days as people just admired the cars.

I think the closest this generation would ever get to those days would be to watch either "Running on Empty" or "American Graffitti" minus the Duck tails :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I remember the looks on every-bodies faces when you would here a Blower (6/71) comming in and every one would make way and surround it like it had a naked chic on the bonnet :lol: :lol: :lol:
Over the years I have seen some of them around or should I say on the side of the house minus Running gear or in Unique cars etc.etc
It was a sad sad day.... :( :( :(

[spiv]

The problem with these cruises is that they get too big and attract unwanted attention from the boys in blue. The last thing any of us need is a defect for being too low, too loud etc....So I choose to avoid these cruises per se. Having said that one of the best cruises that I have attended was the drive to Lang Lang from the HSV factory for the HSV Nationals. Every one was well behaved and curtious and is was a hoot to see so many pristine HSVs' in convoy, even Jason Gray's Monaro was part of he convoy travelling in front of my Clubby. As a consequence I keep my cruises restricted to low key events that attempt to avoid the "dick head" element who believe that they are an extra from the movie "The Fast and The Furious" :bash:

[Speedy Gonzales]

I agree with you 100% Spiv, wouldnt mind seeing an LS1 National Concourse Display, would be awesome to see 100s of LS1s lined up along both sides of pit straight at Albert Park.

[spiv]

I agree with you 100% Spiv, wouldnt mind seeing an LS1 National Concourse Display, would be awesome to see 100s of LS1s lined up along both sides of pit straight at Albert Park.


Great Idea lets see if it can be done :idea:

[Elite SS]

What about the D**k**d Factor...

Suggestion

No 1 - If any one acts like a D**K**D klonk them over the head :bash: and throw them in the boot..

I havn't thought of a suggestion for No 2 yet...

[SLY-PSI]

beat up VL rustmobiles.

:rolleyes: -----------> :lol:

[NickS]

What about the D**k**d Factor...

Suggestion

No 1 - If any one acts like a D**K**D klonk them over the head :bash: and throw them in the boot..

I havn't thought of a suggestion for No 2 yet...
:lol: :lol: ... reckon No 1 pretty much covers it.

[Cainer]

Sounds like a club i would like to be in


:rolleyes:

[pagey]

To the gutless ( wouldn't leave his name) little twit that tried to give me -'ve rep for my post in here.. nice try. And mine was a non defamatory post :eek:

Still probably serves me right for wasting my time commenting on this thread.. Funny how some threads get a lot of responses outside of school hours. :lol:

[Ron]

Unfortunately certain things don't change...
About 20-25 years ago we in Sydney used hang out at place in on the Hume Hwy in Lansvale called "Jilly's".
Some of the tuffest streeters would come from as far a Canberra and The North Coast once a week to show off their toys, we had everything from
Blown BIG Blocks bolted to Toranas/Capris etc,295/15/60 tucked under the ass, twin 4's were as commom as Shakers, the name brand were Crower, edelbrock,Holley & Pacemaker,PRO shops like "Custom Image""Brads Speed Shop""American Auto Parts" "SuperFlo Heads" just to name a few, 450 Hp. you were KING of the hill we a lot of the old "Street Machine" cover and issue cars would hangout there, no problems from the cops or any of the authorities, until one or two of the "Gunners" & "Tryhards" would throw Oil on the road and do a burnout , and that was it no-were to go for a few weeks till the heat wore off.
the neighbourhood having enough of the stupdity of these people they had the place shut down 31/3/1987 I think, and there's never been a place like it,
and probably never will.
Ufortunately a lot of car enthuisiast will never get to experience smething like that, because these Morons still exist and always will, and we have to pay the price for it...


You`re showing your age mate, when I read your post it brought back good memories , and you`re right everyone that had a tough street car used to go there and also Auburn Maccas

[EVL350]

To the gutless ( wouldn't leave his name) little twit that tried to give me -'ve rep for my post in here.. nice try. And mine was a non defamatory post

Still probably serves me right for wasting my time commenting on this thread.. Funny how some threads get a lot of responses outside of school hours.

dont u have a job mate?

CCC is just here defending his club from what rubish the media has published.
u cant ban him its not a business

I'm not from Melbourne and have never been on a CCC cruise but we have an identical club here in SA which is huge,that big that it attracts unwanted attnetion from the cops because of clowns in their crapbox VC bucket of bolts with open wheelers. the club constantly gets over 250 commodores each month, and every second month the wiggums send half the force to ruin our night and defect every car.

its not the president of the clubs fault if 2 or 3 idiots(who are not even members) start doing burnouts and then the club gets a bad name. and you cant ban people from coming who dont have a LS1 the whole reason the atmopshere is so good is because there is an apreciation for all models, have to face the facts that us "HOONS" wont be able to go and meet up for a cruise at all soon without being defected and driven off the road by the police because of old women with yappy dogs with to much spare time and the occasional bogan who drives like a minda.

sorry about the long post, i just hate fossils who are die hard today tonighters :mad:

[pagey]

I have absolutely no idea what the hell your post was about EVL350??

did you read my post?? it was aimed at the spinless little boy trying to give me neg rep points for a legit post..


Mate.. I have witnessed a CCC cruise first hand which is what i based my comments on.. however you are basing your comments on a a post by a non validated person that used a ccc username.. and bagging me.. pull your head in & think before you type.

[Justice R8]

This thread wasn't meant to Bag CCC or any other club or Forum, just a discussion on how these events turn sour because of IDIOTS to turn up unwelcomed.
Unfortunately these things happen when the numbers get to big and nobody want to take responsability or action to prevent it, no critizem meant to any body, but facts are facts.
Like it was said before it happens at football matches and other events and the Media thrive on it, bad news travels faster than good news , how often do you ever hear about the Charity events that the car enthusiast arrange and attend with no appreciation from the MEDIA or the public, unfortunately very little.
Regardless if this topic is brought here or any other car Forum the the problem still exists and every body should have their say and opinion on the subject,as long as it doesn't get to personal... I MYSELF AS MANY OF THE OTHER FORUM READERS ARE NOT GOING TO JUDGE A CLUB BY SOME OF THE NEGATIVE FEED BACK THAT COMES FROM THIS SITE OR ANY OTHER.

I enjoy the car club scene as I have for thew past 25 years and intend on participating and enjoying the company of fellow car enthusiast young or old for a long time to come.

Regards

Goran

I am feeling old now as I know it well. I lived around the corner so it was easy to get too with police often stopping just to have a look without giving a defect when they could have defected every car there.

What about the old dash from Jillys to loftus st where you had to be quick to get in and get out before the boys in blue got there

[EVL350]

i was just have a bit of a poke at you saying how most of these posts from him were made out of school hours, well my work hours funnily enough are usually 8-5:30, so far as you know he could be in his 40s, JUST THINK BEFORE YOU POST! :rolleyes: lol

im not just going by what he says, ive got mates in melbourne who go on the CCC cruises and love them, they say the cruises are identical to that of the club here in SA, so im basing my comments on a bit more than just some random all talk forum user.

it comes down to whatever floats your boat,if you dont like their cruises dont come on here and add to the crap that has been said about them in the media.it can only make it that much harder for them to rectify the problems they have at the moment.

[Wayne@GM Motorsport]

Found this article on the front page of this weeks Diamond Valley Leader.

"Pick Up Your Game"

Members of a car club wreaked havoc on Watsonia Railways station carpark just hours after one of its members was viciously assulted in another suburb.
A 21- year old CCC member was beaten by up to 15 members of a rival car club at Highpoint shopping center - one of a number of public car parks used by the club on saturday, June 11.
The Victim suffered a broken cheekbone, fractured jaw, broken nose, three missing teeth and serious cuts and bruises. At Watsonia station car park, the final stop on the clubs monthly cruise, members did burnouts, while onlookers applauded.
Others held up the back of a car to suspend the rear wheels, just enough so they still touched the road.
The driver then accelerated causing the tyres to smoke up.
Police from Heidelberg, Greensborough and Reservoir were called to the station car park after residents complained about the burnouts at 1.50am on sunday June 12.
Heidleberg Sen-Sgt Ken Town said when the police arrived, there was an estimated 200 people crowding the car park entrance, and about 100 cars in the car park.
He said the police spoke with the club's organiser, before the cars left at 2.12am
Connex will consider putting on extra staff at the station if the club continues to meet there and engage in potentially dangerous activity.
Connex spokesman Andrew Cassidy said the railway car parks were for the use of rail travellers only.
Cruise club manager Paul Kendrick played down the incident. He said only a few people did burnouts, and he had banned the perperators from the club and its website.
"We do get the odd hoon, but if a hoon drops a burnout we will ban them", Mr Kendrick said.
"Some of them fear me more than the police"
"A fine is one thing, but being banned from the website - that hurts them more".


"Some of them fear me more than the police"

Now ive heard it all.....

[RIDE:42]

Now ive heard it all.....

they must be younger than i thought :lol:

[O5BRKY]

i was just have a bit of a poke at you saying how most of these posts from him were made out of school hours, well my work hours funnily enough are usually 8-5:30, so far as you know he could be in his 40s, JUST THINK BEFORE YOU POST! :rolleyes: lol

im not just going by what he says, ive got mates in melbourne who go on the CCC cruises and love them, they say the cruises are identical to that of the club here in SA, so im basing my comments on a bit more than just some random all talk forum user.

it comes down to whatever floats your boat,if you dont like their cruises dont come on here and add to the crap that has been said about them in the media.it can only make it that much harder for them to rectify the problems they have at the moment.

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[surfmaster59]

Its getting a bit warm in this thread, I just had to throw water on the keyboard. :eek: Some of the posts have brought back memories - Jillys was only one hangout - what about Dinos at Tempe or Route 66 at Green Valley? There were some nice cars there - and they were stuffed up by the usual minority troublemakers. :(

[XLR8 V8]

Here I was thinking this thread died back in June .... closed