Harold Scrubey at it again...

[pagey]

Well... if you needed more proof that Harold Scrubey has some serious problems... he has now featured tonight on ACA (yes not the most reputable of programs) claiming that 4WD drivers choose their vehicle (among other reasons) due to Inadequacies I.e small penis etc...

Well done Harold.

[flappist]

Well... if you needed more proof that Harold Scrubey has some serious problems... he has now featured tonight on ACA (yes not the most reputable of programs) claiming that 4WD drivers choose their vehicle (among other reasons) due to Inadequacies I.e small penis etc...

Well done Harold.Yeh but he is right..... :lol: :lol:

And some of them don't even have penises at all (especially the women).......

Scooby is a nutter and will say anyting to get on TV

[EL2]

Why do people spell his name with capital letters? To do so is a sign of respect and honour.

harold scruby is a clown.

[lxhatch]

Oh...I can just see it now....the infamous Mr Scrubby towing a 2t trailer with a Falcon......on the highway at 90kph..........gets a blow-out :lol:

THEN he might realise why a hell of a lot of ppl buy reasonably sized 4x4's :box: :bash: :rolleyes:

[traco]

Dickheads who come up with this style of infantile argument (inadequacies , penis envy , etc.) are only projecting their own very obvious inadequacy in the intelligence department.

Scrubey is just another failed inadequate little twerp who quite obviously doesn't have a life of his own, prefering instead to interfere in the lives of others.

Do I need to suggest what should be done with idiots like him?

Bit by bit these control freaks chip away at our freedoms. Not many of you might own or drive a 4wd, but ask yourself what will they come after once 4wd owners are made into pariahs - modified cars, V8s?

[alexcs]

a few assassinations maybe have some people on the back foot. drastic in a big way, but current public servants etc believe they are completely untouchable. knock a few shades of shit out of their ilk and theyll start to listen to the majority. :)

[Kirium]

He's not a public servant... he's not a government employee... he's an absolute fu€king nobody...

If i ever saw him, i'd ask him how the chairman of the pedestrian council of australia managed to hit a pedestrian in his BMW... and get away with it

Correction, it was a mercedes.. :lol:

[Doug]

Even ACA seemed embarrassed by the guy.

I'm with Traco though - if they succeed with 4wd's, they move on to modified cars and v8's. (Actually, I assume they move onto modified cars regardless their success with 4wds.)

[THE308]

What amazes me is that the idiot is a SELF APPOINTED "chairman" of the Pedestrian Council!!

He is nothing more than an over opinionated "squeaky hinge", yet the TV stations continue to oil him, entertain his lunacy and broadcast his unsubstantiated, extremist views, inferring that he is somebody of authority or great knowledge. He is neither, nor does he ever entertain or participate in balanced debate.

He's the moron who advocated country people must remove bullbars before entering towns and cities because they injure pedestrians!!

What about educating pedestrians to look before stepping onto the road and working towards keeping them on the footpath? Even if a pedestrian is in the right he/she is going to loose a battle witha car. Pedestrians need to be more defensive and learn to value thier own life a bit more.

Whilst I agree that pedestrians being struck by cars is sad, you can't hold vehicles responsible for pedestrian strikes, when the vast majority of them are the fault of the pedestrian!

It's a very simple concept. If the pedestrian keeps off the road he/she will not be hit by a vehicle.

Keep pedestrians off the road, probelm solved!

As for his view that 4wd vehicles (in his words aggression vehicles) need be taxed off the road. :mad: What drugs is this guy on?

If I can't own a Landcruiser/Patrol/F250 or simillar type vehicle to tow the Horse Float, what else does he propose I use for the task?

A Falcon or Commodore?

Both Ford and Holden are already incapable of manufacturing a reliable Falcon and Commodore that can be driven around as commuter vehicles. As if either vehicle can tow a double Horse Float on a regular basis without serious detrimental effects!



Then there are famillies who buy 4WD Cruisers/Crew Cab Rodeo's etc as a multi purpose family recreation vehicle that can do the Mon - Friday duties, then cope off the bitumen on weekends and hoidays too.

Due to initial purchase price, maintenance costs etc. we already pay a significant premium (plus assocaited taxes) to own such vehicles.

[Dan_LS1]

harold scruby wont be happy until he sees everyone driving around in un-modified 4cyl rice burners or hybrid cars.

you only have to look at the ad's that were on tv that he considered as unsafe or that promoted bad driving behaviour

the magna 4wd ad, vz ss ute ad and the sv6 vz ad.

HE IS A CLOWN

[murfo]

i really really hate this guy, i think they must just put him on tv just to piss us off

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[Mongy]

i really really hate this guy, i think they must just put him on tv just to piss us off

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:lol: Your probably right :lol: He has very little idea on a place most of us visit every day, a place called reality. He definitely lives on an intellectual plane that has less air than the rest of society. Having owned quite a few 4x4's over the years I feel sorry for anybody who has one and lives anywhere near him :rolleyes:

[VYBerlinaV8]

The problem is that when idiots like scruby get on their soapbox, the real issues get drowned out by all the noise. It's hard for performance car enthusiasts to communicate their views about responsible car ownership when all you can hear is unsubstantiated fearmongering.

[murfo]

:lol: Your probably right :lol: He has very little idea on a place most of us visit every day, a place called reality. He definitely lives on an intellectual plane that has less air than the rest of society. Having owned quite a few 4x4's over the years I feel sorry for anybody who has one and lives anywhere near him :rolleyes:


LoL id like to buy a hummer and move in next door to him...

[xshore]

Maybe something a lot of people missed when he was talking about taxing 4WD's off the road, he said he wanted anyone driving a "powerful" car to be taxed off the road. This clearly shows he is a radicalist. ACA shouldn't put this moron on tv, who cares what he thinks. Maybe if I start accusing people of having a small penis ACA will give me air time too.

[VRIIClubby]

LoL id like to buy a hummer and move in next door to him...

I love it! And whilst doing that get some US rappers to stay over aswell and see what he says about it all... :D

[pagey]

Slightly off the topic but I used to have some interest in ACA stories.. however I just cannot stomach the biased crap that rolls out of there any more.. i quite simply will not watch it anymore.. which is the only way they will get the message (ratings - in an ideal world I know).

[NickS]

Slightly off the topic but I used to have some interest in ACA stories.. however I just cannot stomach the biased crap that rolls out of there any more..
I agree 100%, the show is a joke. Full of stories about neighbours fighting, dogs barking, people whinging and morons sprouting rubbish. That my friends is why at 6:30 I am watching Futurama on Fox8 ... it's closer to the reality that we live in than most of the crap on ACA.

Time to get off my :soap: I feel better now :D

[Marco]

We should all join the Pedestrian Council, then vote in a new Chairman.

Problem solved.

I wonder how transparent and accountable the organisation really is? Are the books in order? Fully legally compliant? Chairman democratically elected? Membership open to all?

[paulvdb]

We should all join the Pedestrian Council, then vote in a new Chairman.

Problem solved.

I wonder how transparent and accountable the organisation really is? Are the books in order? Fully legally compliant? Chairman democratically elected? Membership open to all?
Ha Ha Ha Ha etc....

It's not a council. It's 1 idiot. He calls his organisation a council. You can't join his council. His council is accountable to no-one. He is not required to provide proof of his "facts".

There is NO transparency in his council. There are NO books other than his basic business accounts. Legally compliant to what? The Chairman elected himself!!!. You can't join his 1 person council.

It s*&ts me that this 1 person lunacy can continue to con the press. They love his carefully prepared crap because it includes interesting headlines, seems like it's a human interest story and neatly fills space in the paper/web site/tv show

[pagey]

It s*&ts me that this 1 person lunacy can continue to con the press. They love his carefully prepared crap because it includes interesting headlines, seems like it's a human interest story and neatly fills space in the paper/web site/tv show

Very well put Paul..

If he can pre package a ratings grabbing story for ACA of course they will grab it with open arms - in that sense he is doing a bloody good/smart job. just look at the attention it has gotten from all of us.

[Justice R8]

It would have been great to see someone he called "penis envy" jump out of their 4wd and pull out their 12inch slong. Would have been priceless.

Using Harolds analogy I should rush out and get a 4wd to suit my anatomy:D

[pagey]

It would have been great to see someone he called "penis envy" jump out of their 4wd and pull out their 12inch slong. Would have been priceless.

Using Harolds analogy I should rush out and get a 4wd to suit my anatomy:D



:lol: :lol: LMAO.. my first chuckle in an otherwise sh!tty day!! Cheers Justice.

P.S I have just placed my order for a Fiat Bambino :D

[Justice R8]

:lol: :lol: LMAO.. my first chuckle in an otherwise sh!tty day!! Cheers Justice.

P.S I have just placed my order for a Fiat Bambino :D

Ive got a pocket racer! I just hang it over the handle bars. (I wish)

[traco]

The press hasn't been conned at all - the press is doing the conning. The media and it's backers have hidden socialist agendas and are quick to patronise idiots like Scrubey and present them in a serious light in order to further their aims which, in most cases, are just as lunatic as the person they present. Rational, sustainable counter-argument and the facts of the matter are never aired.

Take for example the gun control issue. Idiots like Rebecca Peters and the then head of the AMA Simon Chapman. Both were presented daily to the elctorate as learned, qualified and concerned individuals by a rabid press intent on turning law-abiding firerams owners into demons. It worked, and what do we now have, no change in the murder rate, an increase in suicides and the introduction of drive-bys with the south of Sydney turned into a combat range.

Peters now works for a lunatic in the US and Chapman has moved within the AMA . If Peters was so concerned with Australia, as she so often claimed, why is she working overseas? And as for Chapman - well, his famous warcry was "if it saves only one life it is worth it". Yet as our health facilities crumble and the medical profession is exposed almost daily for dealing in death, we hear not a word from the concerned Prof. Chapman of the Australian Medical Association.

Hands up those who saw, or now see, the unfairness in the way legal gun-owners were demonised, hands up those who saw it as an attack on freedoms but did exactly nothing because -after all, you didn't own a firearm so it wasn't going to affect you?

Hands up those who will actually do something constructive to support 4wd owners when the opportunity arises and hands up those who will do nothing but instaed whinge and whine when your turn comes and no-one boithers to stand up for your right to keep your favourite toy?

United we stand - divided we fall. The issues have never been guns, cars, 4wds etc. the issue at hand is the steadily increasing control of the electorate and our God-given right to live our lives as we please, as long as you don't impinge on the rights of others.

Our interests, guns, cars, 4wds or just about anything you can think of, represent a means of dividng society into speechless little groups so they can be attacked and defeated one at a time.

I've just about had enough of faceless petty beaurocrats telling me that something I like does not fit into their opinion of how I should live.

[exwrx]

I dont have a problem with Harold Scruby when he is addressing pedestrian related issues. The story he did recently on ACA about driver behaviour in school zones was spot on. He has actually done a lot of good work in this area, and a lot of it does not attract media attention as it is not sensationalist.

However, the angle he takes on 4WD's and performance cars is a bit far fetched as far as pedestrians are concerned, and that is the message that needs to be highlighted to ACA and other media when they consult him as an expert. Unfortunately the media are only interested in stirring up controversy, not boring, but necessary, initiatives.

[Sidewindr]

I agree 100%, the show is a joke. Full of stories about neighbours fighting, dogs barking, people whinging and morons sprouting rubbish. That my friends is why at 6:30 I am watching Futurama on Fox8 ... it's closer to the reality that we live in than most of the crap on ACA.

Time to get off my :soap: I feel better now :D


Four Corners and the 7:30 Report are far better programs! :)

[NickS]

Four Corners and the 7:30 Report are far better programs! :)
Agree, and I regularly watch both ... and I used to watch ACA also, just gives me the sh**s now !! Think I would watch Neighbours before I watched ACA, that's how much I can't stand it :p

[dean]

The press hasn't been conned at all - the press is doing the conning. The media and it's backers have hidden socialist agendas and are quick to patronise idiots like Scrubey and present them in a serious light in order to further their aims which, in most cases, are just as lunatic as the person they present. Rational, sustainable counter-argument and the facts of the matter are never aired.

Take for example the gun control issue. Idiots like Rebecca Peters and the then head of the AMA Simon Chapman. Both were presented daily to the elctorate as learned, qualified and concerned individuals by a rabid press intent on turning law-abiding firerams owners into demons. It worked, and what do we now have, no change in the murder rate, an increase in suicides and the introduction of drive-bys with the south of Sydney turned into a combat range.

Peters now works for a lunatic in the US and Chapman has moved within the AMA . If Peters was so concerned with Australia, as she so often claimed, why is she working overseas? And as for Chapman - well, his famous warcry was "if it saves only one life it is worth it". Yet as our health facilities crumble and the medical profession is exposed almost daily for dealing in death, we hear not a word from the concerned Prof. Chapman of the Australian Medical Association.

Hands up those who saw, or now see, the unfairness in the way legal gun-owners were demonised, hands up those who saw it as an attack on freedoms but did exactly nothing because -after all, you didn't own a firearm so it wasn't going to affect you?

Hands up those who will actually do something constructive to support 4wd owners when the opportunity arises and hands up those who will do nothing but instaed whinge and whine when your turn comes and no-one boithers to stand up for your right to keep your favourite toy?

United we stand - divided we fall. The issues have never been guns, cars, 4wds etc. the issue at hand is the steadily increasing control of the electorate and our God-given right to live our lives as we please, as long as you don't impinge on the rights of others.

Our interests, guns, cars, 4wds or just about anything you can think of, represent a means of dividng society into speechless little groups so they can be attacked and defeated one at a time.

I've just about had enough of faceless petty beaurocrats telling me that something I like does not fit into their opinion of how I should live.


Good to see other that others see the bigger picture. This is a global epidemic that needs more raised awareness - people are starting to wake up. I have stopped listening to the brainwash mass media and look towards the independent media news reports. (and dont toss up that conspiricy theory crap) :bash:

[essess8]

wouldnt we as car enthusiasts be able to come up with our own council? something like the Automobile Council... to go up against him? at least then we would have a legit way of voicing our oppinions to the people

[Marco]

The fact that we have to have ideas like that says a hell of a lot about how useless bodies like the NRMA and RACV have become at representing their members...

[essess8]

the way i see it is that we need to do exactly what he is doing, create our own council with us representing it and fight him. he doesnt seem to have any compitition at the moment so he has a free run at making us look bad. if we can get out what the real enthusiasts are about then we have a fair chance of beating him. everyone has a car and it relates to pretty much every single australian. im sick of having my freedom to do as i wish taken away by 'people' like harold...would anyone be interested in helping stand up against him?

[traco]

A Performance Car Owners Council (Call it P-COC just to keep the Scrubeys of the world happy) is a good idea, however, to be effective you need to get your position and your arguments aired and your message across. You need an independent, fair and balanced media for that.

Do we have such a thing in Australia?

You would also need to get people like Scrubey to debate you in a balanced, open forum devoid of armchair experts - not one where the questions, the supposed moderator and the audience are 'loaded' and the panel is made up of a bunch of floosies like Scrubey.

As stated earlier our media is the problem.

Just to remind some of how serious this all is - road safety councils have plans afoot to introduce in the near future a system whereby cars are retrofitted with a system that operates in conjunction with your cars computer and electronic speedo, and off the same satellite that provides screen-based roadmaps and GPS. Once the car exceeds the speed limit on a given road a signal is transmitted via satellite to home base where computers print out and mail infringement notices. Nice revenue windfall that would be.

I have noticed cars fitted with roof mounted satellite transponders and drivers using laptops and handheld GPS parked alongside speed limit signs here in Canberra. Now that could be for something else I know, but given the ACT government's predilection at being first for everything, no matter how stupid, I just wonder.

[essess8]

i agree about those points traco, and i think if we got a big enough following and enough people to vote their oppinions then the media would surely start to take notice of us. think of the ratings for them if they had a debate between the two groups... i guess you have to start off small and then get big. it might even prove how much of a wanker harold is if he wouldnt want to participate in a legit debate. i had a look at their website earlier and some of the issues he has are rediculous.. the likes of banning towbars from cars and bike racks even when there are bikes on the racks he doesnt want us to use them. he needs someone to stand up to him as a group, i think he would maybe start seeing light if he had someone telling him to calm down a little bit