CV8Z- The Last of a Legend

[CraigH]

They are probably just selling the exhaust that is used on the US GTO, It is a few db higher than the Australian one from what I read somewhere.

Meant to sound very nice.

Would be interested to know if anyone has got one and how loud it realy is.

[SteveK]

They are probably just selling the exhaust that is used on the US GTO, It is a few db higher than the Australian one from what I read somewhere.

Meant to sound very nice.

And it does, much meatier at idle and louder at revs, but still doesn't explain the ADR issues. The current VZ exhaust only just made it past ADR having been rejected a fair few times.


Would be interested to know if anyone has got one and how loud it realy is.
Ok, go to the link below and scroll down to the 2 audio files. They are official audio clips that once appeared on the Pontiac website.

Pontiac GTO media files (http://www.ls1gto.com/media/)

Cheers,
Steve

[CraigH]

Thanks for that link Mynaro

I noticed the GTO owners manual was there as well.

Any idea where I can download a PDF of the current Monaro's owners Manual ?

Regards

[blakgoat]

After reading most of the posts in this thread a lot of you are worried or concerned, regarding the next Monaro. IMO I don't think anyone should, I visited the St Catherines engine plant last Friday, they had an open house and car show to all GM vehicles, for all that don't know, all of the LS1, LS2 corvette, GTO, Monaro etc engines are built here except the new LS6 corvette engine witch is hand built in the States, anyway during one of the tours to the dyno lab,I met one of my buddys he was standing next to this big wig engineer so I asked anything special being built, he paused and with a big smile said trying to hold back. the future looks bright in the next few years for GM. He stated they just finished testing the new 6.2 litre engines, the heads have larger intake and exhaust valves and to compensate the valves are stagered, like a big block chev. He would not disclose horsepower or anymore info but 30 engines were shipped to Australia. And that the final place for assembly of these engines will be in Mexico. All of you can speculate what you want, but I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel!

[Dickie Knee]

Performance Exhaust - $ 1397.00*

This race track inspired performance exhaust is based on Pontiac GTO exhaust system and is specifically designed to work with VZ Monaro engine configuration. It offers unmistakable and distinctive V8 engine sound, with all the character you'd like from Holden Monaro - it is sure to put a smile on the face of every petrol head.

Please note that VZ Monaro Performance Exhaust does not comply with ADR requirements (due to excessive noise), and is permitted for race track use only.


* The recommended retail price (RRP) for accessories includes GST but does not include fitting and labour costs.

Part number is 92182841

[SSFreak]

Please note that VZ Monaro Performance Exhaust does not comply with ADR requirements (due to excessive noise), and is permitted for race track use only.

Funny how the exhaust noise is considered too loud when you see Harleys on the road that are a hell of a lot louder.

[kryten2001]

Part number is 92182841

Interesting...

I wonder if these exhausts are any good, and whether these cars come with a different mapping because of them?

I note there's no mention of any actual PERFORMANCE gains, so probably not....

[Smitty]

Interesting...

I wonder if these exhausts are any good, and whether these cars come with a different mapping because of them?

I note there's no mention of any actual PERFORMANCE gains, so probably not....


who cares
as long as the noiz is luvverly.... :lol:

[zacz]

just a few of quick questions for HOLDEN REP......

1) When will be the last period in which Dealers will be able to place orders for CV8Z? Im getting a hard sell from a dealer claiming that this week will be the last week they are able to place orders on this car which i find quite absurd!

2) Im interested in a silver car - but the red stitching and instrument display background isnt to my liking......is there any way that the stitching can be changed to a silver stitch on the steering wheel and gearknob? And also perhaps a white backing on the instruments?

3) I wasnt able to test drive a manual VZ monaro - they seem quite rare in adelaide! But i was offered a drive of a VZ SV8 Manual.....which was supposed to be representative. BUT - before I sign on any dotted lines - Im quite concerned at how the car's gearknob had massive vibrations coming through when the car was in motion (and in gear) and also there were a lot of mechanical moises such as clunks from the rear and when the car was moving (and the clutch pressed in) i noticed a whirring noise from the trans.....are all these normal manual experiences in a Monaro as well or was this car quite sick?

Hoping you can shed some light on these issues

thanks very much!

Zac (Adelaide)

[kryten2001]

just a few of quick questions for HOLDEN REP......

1) When will be the last period in which Dealers will be able to place orders for CV8Z? Im getting a hard sell from a dealer claiming that this week will be the last week they are able to place orders on this car which i find quite absurd!

2) Im interested in a silver car - but the red stitching and instrument display background isnt to my liking......is there any way that the stitching can be changed to a silver stitch on the steering wheel and gearknob? And also perhaps a white backing on the instruments?

3) I wasnt able to test drive a manual VZ monaro - they seem quite rare in adelaide! But i was offered a drive of a VZ SV8 Manual.....which was supposed to be representative. BUT - before I sign on any dotted lines - Im quite concerned at how the car's gearknob had massive vibrations coming through when the car was in motion (and in gear) and also there were a lot of mechanical moises such as clunks from the rear and when the car was moving (and the clutch pressed in) i noticed a whirring noise from the trans.....are all these normal manual experiences in a Monaro as well or was this car quite sick?

Hoping you can shed some light on these issues

thanks very much!

Zac (Adelaide)

I dunno about the last order dates, but if you're in the market - I wouldn't procrastinate.

As far as the SV8 being representative, I wouldn't say so. I came from a VYII SS to the VZ Monaro, and there's (in my opinion) plenty of difference.

Then again, if you're happy with the SV8, you'll be over the moon with the Monaro.

Vibrating gear knob? Yeah man, this is a muscle car. It's supposed to shake a little! If you want refinement, buy an Audi! (And a nice sensible cardigan to go with it)

[MonaroCV8]

Vibrating gear knob? Yeah man, this is a muscle car. It's supposed to shake a little! If you want refinement, buy an Audi! (And a nice sensible cardigan to go with it)
:lol: that's what I say to ppl who think my M6 Munro's driveline is cluncky :D

[SteveK]

:lol: that's what I say to ppl who think my M6 Munro's driveline is cluncky :D
Agreed, that's one of the 'features' that gives this car character. And people love it when sitting at the lights and the car is shaking from left to right. It's scares the littlies. :)

Just got an email back from my Holden dealer and he adamantly stated that the Performance exhaust option is for TRACK USE ONLY but didn't mention how they would police it. Oh his other comment was "Some guru in marketing thought up this brainchild of an option". I think he meant to say "Nice idea, bad execution".

Also spoke to my sister who works at the EPA in Melbourne and they are aware of what to expect with these 'black nostrilled' Monaros. Anyone thinking of purchasing the performance option will be having fun with the EPA forcing their car off the road or requesting them to have the exhaust replaced.

And before anyone asks, the EPA will not be targetting these cars specifically (and officially) but if someone is aware of excessive noise with said car, rings in, complains and provides details of the said car, the EPA will issue a notice to have the car tested and subsequently rejected.

Caveat Emptor.

Cheers,
Steve

[BLQWN]

just been on holden's site, nothing on there about the exhaust option being race only, bring it on i say. What is the go with spares for this model? I'm thinking of buying a spare bonnet with flutes,spare rim and front bumper before all the clones take them, spose GMH has to keep making them 'till your warranty period is up. Does this mean, even trying to end the VZ they have to keep making to ensure enough supply? Planning to park this one next to my HQ 2 door GTS and my HK GTS 307, not bragging, just bringing to light the problem of NOS parts for these old girls, try to find new a HT-HG bonnet these days!. 'least in 25 years the plastic wont be riddled with rust.

[kryten2001]

just been on holden's site, nothing on there about the exhaust option being race only, bring it on i say. What is the go with spares for this model? I'm thinking of buying a spare bonnet with flutes,spare rim and front bumper before all the clones take them, spose GMH has to keep making them 'till your warranty period is up. Does this mean, even trying to end the VZ they have to keep making to ensure enough supply? Planning to park this one next to my HQ 2 door GTS and my HK GTS 307, not bragging, just bringing to light the problem of NOS parts for these old girls, try to find new a HT-HG bonnet these days!. 'least in 25 years the plastic wont be riddled with rust.

Things may have changed, but I seem to remember a manufacturer is legally bound to supply spares for 10 years.. Is this still not the case?

[SteveK]

just been on holden's site, nothing on there about the exhaust option being race only, bring it on i say.

Here's the direct link: Performance Exhaust Option (http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modelaccessories?aid=20862&&modelid=12003&bitmask=1)

And to quote the 2nd paragraph that has already been posted earlier in this thread:

Please note that VZ Monaro Performance Exhaust does not comply with ADR requirements (due to excessive noise), and is permitted for race track use only.

Cheers,
Steve

[Senator05]

Vibrating gear knob? Yeah man, this is a muscle car. It's supposed to shake a little! If you want refinement, buy an Audi! (And a nice sensible cardigan to go with it)

I'm not sure what you call refinement, but having a transmission give your whole body a massage through the gearshift isn't acceptable. I did get a 24-hr drive of a manual VZ Monaro in Adelaide before ordering mine (in Auto, to suit the girlfriend as she's quite short) and found the vibration far greater than should be the case. Yes, I also have an Audi (S4 6M), but no cardigan, and if you're willing to settle for less than refined, that's your choice. But there's a big difference between a car lumping over at the lights, as a muscle car should, and shaking the gearshift around like a Hyundai.

This isn't a Australian vs Euro rant. Yes, I love my Audi S4, but I considered a VZ Clubby R8 before ordering the Monaro and the test drive of that showed that a muscle car manual transmission doesn't need to flop around or vibrate like crazy. The manual in that felt great...maybe 'cos it was connected to the LS2 ?

At the end of the day, the Monaro is a beautiful car, and zacz, if you get one, you'll probably get used to the vibration before long, as we all get used to things we dislike when exposed to them long enough, like crap stereo speakers.

Now where do I lay the bait and express some opinion about muscle car drivers, blue tank tops, and slabs of VB

[kryten2001]

I'm not sure what you call refinement, but having a transmission give your whole body a massage through the gearshift isn't acceptable. I did get a 24-hr drive of a manual VZ Monaro in Adelaide before ordering mine (in Auto, to suit the girlfriend as she's quite short) and found the vibration far greater than should be the case. Yes, I also have an Audi (S4 6M), but no cardigan, and if you're willing to settle for less than refined, that's your choice. But there's a big difference between a car lumping over at the lights, as a muscle car should, and shaking the gearshift around like a Hyundai.

This isn't a Australian vs Euro rant. Yes, I love my Audi S4, but I considered a VZ Clubby R8 before ordering the Monaro and the test drive of that showed that a muscle car manual transmission doesn't need to flop around or vibrate like crazy. The manual in that felt great...maybe 'cos it was connected to the LS2 ?

At the end of the day, the Monaro is a beautiful car, and zacz, if you get one, you'll probably get used to the vibration before long, as we all get used to things we dislike when exposed to them long enough, like crap stereo speakers.

Now where do I lay the bait and express some opinion about muscle car drivers, blue tank tops, and slabs of VB

Mmm, I dunno.. Mine certainly gives a feeling of movement and _slight_ vibration through the stick - but it's far from shaking around... I guess a shortshift is always available (and the monaro is available with one), if that makes it any easier for you. They are certainly more accurate.

Maybe the one you testdrove was knackered.... but after you drive a eurocar, it's not exactly fair to compare. They're in a whole other league (and a whole different financial league as well).

Where the Monaro lacks in refinement, it makes up for with soul and character.

And I can say all of that with reasonable objectivity, as my wife's car is a brand new euro-car... I love it too, but for completely different reasons (wearing the sensible hat now)...

[shepp0]

saw a cv8-z in the flesh today, nothing amazing really that i havent seen before, but one thing worth noting is the black nostril accents just look like they are black plastic and not painted (if you get what i mean)

[zacz]

hi all

Does anyone know if a VZ HSV GTO Coupe Instrument Cluster would swap into a VZ Monaro? If so - how much would it cost on average?

Reason i am asking is that im not a big fan of the coloured instrument cluster background and white needles on the VZ....and i think the red needles and white background would look better!

[cprisoner]

I picked up my new CV8-Z today.
Its black so the new tinted tail lights look HOT.
The new rims are also equally impressive and for some reason look beafier.

Im one happy camper :D

[SteveK]

I picked up my new CV8-Z today.
Its black so the new tinted tail lights look HOT.
The new rims are also equally impressive and for some reason look beafier.

Im one happy camper :D

The usual knee-jerk reaction to such a post is: PICS PLEASE!!!!

[Goggles]

I picked up my new CV8-Z today.
Its black so the new tinted tail lights look HOT.
The new rims are also equally impressive and for some reason look beafier.

Im one happy camper :D

pics please...

[Marco]

Ironic...I was just sitting in a long meeting wondering what the CV8-Z would look like in black - so yeah, make with the pics :)

[HERCULES]

Black CV8-Z = HOT!!!!
PICS PLZ!!!!! :D

[CraigH]

How do the fushion seat inserts look.

Are they bright orange or more subtle

Sounds great

[elisiX]

Im interested to know what drive away prices you fellas paid? PM if needed.

[COUPE]

Black CV8-Z = HOT!!!!
PICS PLZ!!!!! :D

I'd have to disagree there Herc ... Previous to the VZ yes the Monaro did look good in black ... but I've seen enough black VZeds both night and day so say they don't look good at all (and I wouldnt take pics on the net into account, a cars colour looks very different in the flesh, believe me) ... Firstly you can't even see the scoops and then when u do, it just looks all wrong ... the matt balck-outs on the rear end just do not suit a black gloss car ... just doesnt go.

Most cars are what they call colour sensative because of their shape and accentuations ... this is even more so on sports and performance cars ... Black is a great colour but it doesnt look good on everything ... Black outs on a car offer a contrast which give it an edge ... when the car is painted in black you totaly delete and remove these contrasts from the naked eye ... IMO not a good thing.

The pick of the bunch would have to be a VZ CV8 not CV8-Z ... what's this Z business? ... 350Z are known as Zeds ... why Holden did this was stupid IMO ... and to put matt black on the front of the scoops totaly wrecked them (if you can't make them look better (which they couldnt, just leave the damn things alone) ... I know if I was a VZ CV8 Monaro owner and had the added the sunroof ... I'd be laughing my head off, in that for once the previous model or in this case series owner got the better looking of the two.

If I was shopping for the last of the legends I'd be out there trying to find the first sereis VZ not the CV8-Z ... Unless you can't live without the car in Fusion, which as a colour not bad IMO.

[cprisoner]

The seats are way more subtle than the shots on the brochure. They are closer to a tan colour rather that "HOT" orange as i had expected.

I only have the one shot at the mome due to lack of time.
Ill post another shot of the tail and interior tomorrow!

Uhm.,... i cant seem to attach pics? anyone know how? PM me.

[cprisoner]

If I was shopping for the last of the legends I'd be out there trying to find the first sereis VZ not the CV8-Z ... Unless you can't live without the car in Fusion, which as a colour not bad IMO.


Colour is a subjective topic. So its useless to debate IMHO.
I would prefer the Z for multiple reasons. It is one of 1200. The rims it comes with shit on the previous models. The $2,500 sunroof comes with the car.
Resale will possibly be slightly higher.

For the same price on road, you cant argue with that.

[CraigH]

Try this link to explain posting images

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=30924

So pleased to hear they are more Tan than orange.

Sounds fantastic.

I am still yet to lock in the colour. Either silver, Fusion or Yellow.

Dealer will have a Fusion CV8-Z Wednesday I hope so I can decide after seeing the color and interior in the flesh.

Colour is such a personal thing, there are no fast rules as to good and bad, yes some shapes are colour sensitive but it still comes back to taste.

We all have it and its what makes us individuals.

Regards

Craig

[cprisoner]

Cheers mate... here's one of the pics
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/clintcv8z/monaro003.jpg

[alexcs]

i love the new vz monaros in black, and i especially love the new GTOs in black. if i could afford one of those id be in it in a flash. that looks great mate.

[bludger2000]

[QUOTE=cprisoner]Cheers mate... here's one of the pics

need to see more of the cv8-z in black!.....

[CraigH]

cprisoner, how are the interior shots going.

Cheers

Craig

[VHSLE]

Keep those pickies comin' :D :D :D

[mad_monaro]

There is a pic of the Fusion Z here :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/GENUINE-HOLDEN-VZ-MONARO-BONNET_W0QQitemZ4570905518QQcategoryZ102358QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem

[Wezza]

I saw a yellow one in Townsville today. Nice!! :)

[FunkyPig]

There is a pic of the Fusion Z here :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/GENUINE-HOLDEN-VZ-MONARO-BONNET_W0QQitemZ4570905518QQcategoryZ102358QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem
The salesman giving the 2 finger salute is a nice touch too. :)

[cprisoner]

cprisoner, how are the interior shots going.

Cheers

Craig

Sorry mate... been too busy.. ill try grab some now.. i dont know how good they will turn out in the garage though!

[cprisoner]

heres some more.. crappy quality i know.
At least you can see how the tail lights are tinted!
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/clintcv8z/dsc00085.jpg
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/clintcv8z/dsc00086.jpg
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/clintcv8z/dsc00090.jpg

[bludger2000]

is it just me or aren't these pictures appearing above. i really wanna see this black cv8-z...

[VHSLE]

is it just me or aren't these pictures appearing above. i really wanna see this black cv8-z...

Nup, they are broken, something about bandwidth exceeded.

[bigdongers]

any more pics?

[cprisoner]

Sorry guys, it seems the bandwidth exceeded thingie is preventing the images from showing up.

I have a few more pics, so PM me with your email address and i can send them to you.

[SteveK]

Two shots of the silver CV8-Z with some Andrew "Humphrey" Bogut. And I thought I was too tall for the car. Lucky he gets the free sunroof. Harry and the Hendersons anyone?

Sitting in car (http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?015093)
Sitting on bonnet (http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?005524)

Must admit, blacked out scoops look good on the quicksilver.

Steve.

[VRIIClubby]

the quicksilver looks hot...geez bogut is a tall bastard!

[NickS]

With $5 mill a year he should have got the GTO :p

[bigdongers]

With $5 mill a year he should have got the GTO :p

I dont think he had to pay for it. Not like hes gonna be in Aus very much anyway.

[monarocv8z]

I just put in my order for a cv8z on friday and was told that it was the last one avaiable from the factory. Whats left are vehicles that dealers have ordered.. has anyone else heard this?

[kryten2001]

I just put in my order for a cv8z on friday and was told that it was the last one avaiable from the factory. Whats left are vehicles that dealers have ordered.. has anyone else heard this?

Interesting... I'd like to hear confirmation of that..

I've yet to see one over here in the west.. It appears they're all drying up real fast.. I did see a standard CV8 yellow "demo" in one of the local yards for only $51k though.. Seems crazy money to me, considering how fast these things are gonna dry up.

Better get in now guys, if you want one... And watch what happens to the 2nd hand market.

My 3 month old "new" one is still sitting in the shed with 230ks on it!!

[bigdongers]

Interesting... I'd like to hear confirmation of that..

I've yet to see one over here in the west.. It appears they're all drying up real fast.. I did see a standard CV8 yellow "demo" in one of the local yards for only $51k though.. Seems crazy money to me, considering how fast these things are gonna dry up.

which dealer was this at? also do you know if it was an auto or manual?

[kryten2001]

which dealer was this at? also do you know if it was an auto or manual?

Youngs in Vic Park.

No idea whether it was manual or auto..... It's parked out the front at the moment, and I only saw it there on a driveby. Yellow one (VZ), but they've also got a Yellow S2 or S3 there too. No idea how many k's there's on it, or how they'd "load it up" when you tried to call them in on the price.

[bludger2000]

what about some hi res pics???

[Muzzak]

Saw a Devil cv8z auto at Melville Motors on the showroom floor. Just like the one I ordered, but mine aint in till 1 October ! Blast it all to hell - the excruciation of the wait. Good thing I got in as early as I did - all sold out, in WA at least. Confirmed with WA Monaro owners club - all WA allocated vehicles - all gone. Dealers knocking back orders or are taking them with clause of don't hold your breath.

Anyway, it looks as sik as I expected. The Yellow / Black combo makes this the meanest looking Colour around - as far as my tastes. Black bonnet scoops stand out, giving it the unmistakable cv8z street cred. The black tint on the rear lights vs yellow – drool-able as is the tinted sunroof. The machine finished, embossed wheels look sensational - the pictures seen do not bring out the machine finish - which looks spectacular.

I'm gushing like a little schoolgirl.

Anyway - seeya on the road - and get out of my way ! LOL

Muz

[Muzzak]

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Oh yeah, and..... GAME OVER

[str86]

I take delivery to my new CV8-Z in Fusion in the next couple months, cant wait.. gonna be a nightmare to park and leave somewhere :( lol

[Pickles]

I saw a CV8Z (fusion) for the first time "in the flesh" at a Holden display at Sandown yesterday. I must say that it did look good. I liked the two tone interior, & the wheels were pretty smart with large CV8Z logos actually cast into the wheels. But, of course the car is still the same mechanically, & whilst the CV8Z has some extra features, I am still of the opinion that Holden should have given it a few mechanical "upgrades", to really make this (what I believe anyway, will be the last Monaro) really special. It appears that it will be now up to HSV, whose plans for the coupe should be revealed within 6 weeks, to see if they have anything special for the Coupe, before it ceases production, which I think will happen mid 2006 at the latest. At Sandown, I also saw a new HSV GTO Coupe in Devil yellow, with matching trim & optional AP brakes--now that IS a nice car--a bit dear for me though I'm afraid! Cheers, Pickles.

[dru19]

I couldnt not own a monaro, since this was the last one i had to go put an
order down for now.

I too was waiting and hoping that they were going to release one with an LS2. Since there not and i cant afford a Z series GTO this will be fine for me.

Now the waiting game for delivery hehehe

cheers
Dru

[Snappa]

Well, I finally got delivery of my Phantom CV8Z M6 on Friday.

:flip2:

From first impression, I am truely impressed!! I was the proud owner of a CV8 Series 2 Phantom M6, and once heard on the forum that they will be releasing the CV8Z, I place an order in the next day. I was happy with the S2 CV8, and with its mods: 3.91's, Mafless LS1Edit, GTS Maf Pipe, 10" K&N Pod, and Full Exhaust, etc.

I never took a VZ Monaro for a drive so didn't know what to expect. I got a call from Doughboy earlier telling me he saw my car at the dealer and he thought that I didn't have much to do with it, it was good as it is! Yeah, yeah I was thinking..

Anyway, I jumped in to take her home on Friday and the drive home blew me away. The exhaust note is mild and there, better than any car Holdens ever released. The different gear ratios in the M6 compared to my old one proved a very similar final drive to my old one with 3.91's. The new Drive-by-wire is nice and works well. This one feels a lot tighter, quieter and smoother to drive than the old one. You notice the cam in this motor due to the little shake while idling (unless thats a poor tune from Holdens :eek: )

On first glance, I am disappointed that Holden have made changes over the S2 CV8. They have removed the CV8 logo from the speedo dash. They have removed the sports pedal for the foot rest and replaced it with the standard rubber one. The pockets on the rear of the front seats have changed from the vinyl ones to the mesh net. Seat feel about 1" higher at the lowest level. The indicator/wiper stakes are a mat black plastic, which lend to much more markings that the smoother type. The fusion cluster is a bit difficult to read during the day (compared to the old Red one I had)

The cool features that I have noticed. The cluster has all the standard Calais type features PLUS digital Speedo!! Stock exhaust is definately throatier.. And they really push that on their TV Commercial (Full system will go on it shortly, to give me the sound I prefer!) Love the tips!! Love the rims.. they actually look heaps better than the pictures. Phantom II actaully looks darker than the S2 CV8 Phantom. Love the two-tone seats.

I still have some mods to put back on the Z that have been removed from my S2 CV8, and after a Mafless tune on this, we should see some very nice results.

Bottom Line... LOVE IT!!! plus I have another 3 Years Warranty :lol:

For all those that are still tihinking about purchasing one... Stop thinking about it and go out and get one

IF THERE ARE ANY LEFT..... :D

Can anyone tell me what size the standard exhaust pipes are and are the same as the VZ?

Cheers

[zacz]

hi snappa!

Congrats on your new car!

Its interesting what you say about the Drivers Footrest pedal......on VZ Monaros it is there as i remember seeing it in the car i took for a test drive! I havent yet been inside a Z - so cant confirm - but i did take a closer look at the pics from the Z which was at Sandown (see earlier in this forum for the link)...and theres an interior shot there which you can see the pedal - and SHOCK HORROR it is in fact a standard rubber pedal!!

Sounds like the beancounters made a trade with marketing so they could squeeze in the sunroof and chrome wheels! Doh!

Im sure that this can be purchased though from the spare parts department...i certainly will be anyway!

To answer your question on exhaust pipes, i read on the VZ press launch info that the piping is 70mm at the front leading into 63.5mm pipes through an intermediate muffler then into separate rear mufflers on either side - exiting in the 95mm chrome tips. Hope that helps!

Post some pics of your car when you can please.....


Well, I finally got delivery of my Phantom CV8Z M6 on Friday.

:flip2:

From first impression, I am truely impressed!! I was the proud owner of a CV8 Series 2 Phantom M6, and once heard on the forum that they will be releasing the CV8Z, I place an order in the next day. I was happy with the S2 CV8, and with its mods: 3.91's, Mafless LS1Edit, GTS Maf Pipe, 10" K&N Pod, and Full Exhaust, etc.

I never took a VZ Monaro for a drive so didn't know what to expect. I got a call from Doughboy earlier telling me he saw my car at the dealer and he thought that I didn't have much to do with it, it was good as it is! Yeah, yeah I was thinking..

Anyway, I jumped in to take her home on Friday and the drive home blew me away. The exhaust note is mild and there, better than any car Holdens ever released. The different gear ratios in the M6 compared to my old one proved a very similar final drive to my old one with 3.91's. The new Drive-by-wire is nice and works well. This one feels a lot tighter, quieter and smoother to drive than the old one. You notice the cam in this motor due to the little shake while idling (unless thats a poor tune from Holdens :eek: )

On first glance, I am disappointed that Holden have made changes over the S2 CV8. They have removed the CV8 logo from the speedo dash. They have removed the sports pedal for the foot rest and replaced it with the standard rubber one. The pockets on the rear of the front seats have changed from the vinyl ones to the mesh net. Seat feel about 1" higher at the lowest level. The indicator/wiper stakes are a mat black plastic, which lend to much more markings that the smoother type. The fusion cluster is a bit difficult to read during the day (compared to the old Red one I had)

The cool features that I have noticed. The cluster has all the standard Calais type features PLUS digital Speedo!! Stock exhaust is definately throatier.. And they really push that on their TV Commercial (Full system will go on it shortly, to give me the sound I prefer!) Love the tips!! Love the rims.. they actually look heaps better than the pictures. Phantom II actaully looks darker than the S2 CV8 Phantom. Love the two-tone seats.

I still have some mods to put back on the Z that have been removed from my S2 CV8, and after a Mafless tune on this, we should see some very nice results.

Bottom Line... LOVE IT!!! plus I have another 3 Years Warranty :lol:

For all those that are still tihinking about purchasing one... Stop thinking about it and go out and get one

IF THERE ARE ANY LEFT..... :D

Can anyone tell me what size the standard exhaust pipes are and are the same as the VZ?

Cheers

[bludger2000]

hey snappa... congrats on the new car but you forgot one thing... PICS. im waiting for my phantom cv8-z and i havent seen any hi res pics of it.

[Snappa]

For those that are interested in the Phantom CV8Z

Take a look here...

Phantom CV8Z Pics (http://snappa.artc.com.au/cv8z/)

The link has been placed to avoid unnecessary downloads when reading the thread!

Cheers :D

[dru19]

any1 got pics of quicksilver?

dru

[Snappa]

There are two on the GM Media site

GM Media - Monaro Search (http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/*query?ws4d_nav=true&search_criteria=monaro@&Source=all&Page=1&page=1)

[dru19]

yeah but its got bloody Bogut in it lol

Dru

[BLQWN]

Wasnt that impressed with the phantom untill i saw your pics, nice, i reckon it needs some silver in the grille and the hood scoops though. My mates got a devil cv8z but std mats in it, not like your in your pics, my dealer told me they werent putting mats in it for the price and you had to pay extra for any mats!. This was after they had heaps of enquiries and were selling so fast, they actually were getting 66k for them in the end. I hope mine comes with the cv8z mats.
There is one in Manduah Holden, turissmo 6spd, cv8z not sold.

[Snappa]

Maybe the custom CV8Z mats are for Phantom and Fusion as the thread is in Fusion. All others are standard mats!

[Oldmonroman]

I think the Flat Black Bonnet scoops like a bit strange but in total I LOVE THE WHEELS!!! :) :) :)

[bludger2000]

the phantom cv8-z does look really mean... and the mats are awesome too.

[Jimbo_AUS]

I ordered mine about 3 weeks ago and its due for delivery before the end of this month.

I ordered the Fusion and was told that the auto is sold out across Oz now.

I had a look at the Fusion at Barry Smiths in Pennant Hills at the weekend and it looks awesome in the daylight full sun. It's much richer than the Holden pics and the black hilights really stand out.

I'm dieing to get it.....can't sleep or think properly at the moment :)

[Snappa]

Can anyone confirm how many are left? And what states have sold out their allocations of the CV8Z??

[Muzzak]

Can anyone confirm how many are left? And what states have sold out their allocations of the CV8Z??


The last CV8Z for sale: Devil Yellow, Auto, 0km - never driven. 12 Month Rego. "CV8Z 1" slimline white on black plated. $73,000ono, delivery not included.

LOL

[dru19]

Can anyone confirm how many are left? And what states have sold out their allocations of the CV8Z??


Its funny, cause i dont think even the dealers know what they can get or not.

But apparently the place i ordered mine from has 30 allocated to them and 16 already sold, i just hope they can still get me one. i have already signed the contact and paid a deposit.

It also might be scare tatics by dealers.

Im pretty sure WA, SA have been sold out. NSW would have the largest allocations

Dru

[dru19]

Maybe the custom CV8Z mats are for Phantom and Fusion as the thread is in Fusion. All others are standard mats!

somehow i dont think they would do that

dru

[monarocv8z]

Its funny, cause i dont think even the dealers know what they can get or not.

But apparently the place i ordered mine from has 30 allocated to them and 16 already sold, i just hope they can still get me one. i have already signed the contact and paid a deposit.

It also might be scare tatics by dealers.

Im pretty sure WA, SA have been sold out. NSW would have the largest allocations

Dru

From what i was told the 1200 were allocated to individual dealers bar 1 or 2, on another thread i read that the wa allocation had been sold out. 3 dealers i have been to here in melb have sold out but another one still had 1 or 2. Just found out mine has a vin number but no engine number a possible eta of 10th of next month.... cant wait

[plonkerchops]

Its funny, cause i dont think even the dealers know what they can get or not.

But apparently the place i ordered mine from has 30 allocated to them and 16 already sold, i just hope they can still get me one. i have already signed the contact and paid a deposit.

It also might be scare tatics by dealers.

Im pretty sure WA, SA have been sold out. NSW would have the largest allocations

Dru
Theres one sitting in the showroom of Bunbury Holden ( WA )..well it was there on Sunday :)

[leethl]

hi guys just picked up my new CV8Z (fusion 6 speed) realy happy with it
drives nice. some are saying they are not getting mats mine was ok,
if any one was interested where i got mine they have a cv8z auto in
fusion in stock, seen it ysterday seeya

[monarocv8z]

was that at mantellos?

[leethl]

was that at mantellos?


The cv8z is at Ballarat Holden VIC

[Oldmonroman]

I have spotted two in showrooms in Brisbane both silver one a Man

[dru19]

might be lucky yet, they might get one from interstate for me

I really thought they would off been made to order, like if i wanted a quicksilver in auto they would get it made, but with things like this i think they just premake it to get it out quicker.

bugger huh

dru

[monarocv8z]

might be lucky yet, they might get one from interstate for me

I really thought they would off been made to order, like if i wanted a quicksilver in auto they would get it made, but with things like this i think they just premake it to get it out quicker.

bugger huh

dru

I believe they were made to order, well mine is. I assume some of the dealers may have ordered them in a certain way for the show rooms.... who knows...

[Jimbo_AUS]

The fleet dealer at Sundells told me he needed me to fax my Leaseplan quote and my drivers license so that he could order mine because dealers had to prove a sale in order to get more than they are alocated. Now this may be "dealer talk" but he is a fleet dealer and doesn't really have to "sell" me the car.

One week and bit to wait......god time has slowed down :(

[monarocv8z]

I had to do the same thing. A purchase order from my business and a copy of the drivers license. They had sold there allocation.

[dru19]

two dealers in sydney said there are no discounts or fleet purchases on these cars, the reason was ppl would pay the $60,490 for them.

Dru

[Snappa]

The ONLY time you would pay RRP for a Holden is when the dealer tells you he has no room to move. If so, look for another dealer!

They all know these will sell, so why sell at under RRP and affect their profit margin.

If you'e a loyal customer, they is NO reason why you shouldn't be looked after and get a discount off the car.

Look at about $2700-$3000 discount of RRP as a minimum!

Thats if you can still order one ;)

[dru19]

i got a bit off it and also got a few things thrown in as well. and delivery charges brought down a bit too

So if the allocation comes through then i should have one November sometime.

But for now, alot of sleepless nights :(

Dru

[Pickles]

The last CV8Z for sale: Devil Yellow, Auto, 0km - never driven. 12 Month Rego. "CV8Z 1" slimline white on black plated. $73,000ono, delivery not included.

LOLThat will make some-one a nice little "earn". But there's no way I'd buy it. For $10k more you could own an HSV LS2 powered, GTO Coupe with the optional AP brakes. I know what I'd rather drive! Cheers, Pickles.

[BLQWN]

That will make some-one a nice little "earn". But there's no way I'd buy it. For $10k more you could own an HSV LS2 powered, GTO Coupe with the optional AP brakes. I know what I'd rather drive! Cheers, Pickles.
They are probably thinking the rego plates are worth 5-10k, someone in WA has
GMH CV8Z (i think) for sale for 5k!.


Saw the CV8Z ad on telly the other nite, bit late running it now..........
pity that fusion is getting so much press, dont get me wrong its not a bad colour, but i think that like Tiger mica, everyone wanted it and now i reckon it looks gawdy.
I wonder why they didnt make em fusion only for the last lot, kind of like the LE in that mooron/gold, if you see one of them you know what it is. 1 of 600

cheers and beers

[Jimbo_AUS]

two dealers in sydney said there are no discounts or fleet purchases on these cars, the reason was ppl would pay the $60,490 for them.

Dru

Well I just dug out my Leaseplan paperwork and the FULLY inclusive price was 53,745.

The base price after both Leaseplan and dealer discount was 51,100 before GST.

I would say thats a substantial discount. Mind you I work for Westpac and we get a top deal on cars because we have 30,000 employees.

[dru19]

g'ss that is a nice discount on that. Might be that, we have a bit more employess, but worldwide not australia based.

I should of gone to the dealer you went to lol

Dru

[YLD57L]

I saw a Fusion CV8Z yesterday, looked nice but not really much different to a VZ CV8 (obviously). They really should have done more, particularly with the drivetrain and suspension os something, to make the last model more 'special'.

[HSVMAN]

There is no Fleet discount applied to Monaro. CV8 or CV8z. However the dealer is able to discount the vehicle at their discretion up to a certain level but definately not where an SS would be for example.

[Jimbo_AUS]

I saw a Fusion CV8Z yesterday, looked nice but not really much different to a VZ CV8 (obviously). They really should have done more, particularly with the drivetrain and suspension os something, to make the last model more 'special'.

Well I see a few Monaros around the city and you can't tell them apart much at all.

But a Fusion will stand out as the LAST series.....there is no mistaking it is there?

[leethl]

Hi GUYS
Anyone looking for a CV8Z auto in Fusion the is one at Ballarat Holden
on the floor I got mine this week.
LEETHL

[Jimbo_AUS]

congrats mate...I get mine next Thursday...only 6 sleeps to go :)

[Cainer]

congrats mate...I get mine next Thursday...only 6 sleeps to go :)


congrats.

make sure you take lots of photos and upload!s

[Jimbo_AUS]

For sure....I'm getting a new Sony...a DSC-T5.

5 mega pixel and its going to live in the car. When I park the car outside I'm going to photo the cars parked behind me and in front of me in case of the mongrels hits me while I'm away. Same with carparks and when it goes back to the dealer for service.

Anal I may be but its the only way to make sure someone doesn't mess me around.

[Pickles]

For sure....I'm getting a new Sony...a DSC-T5.

5 mega pixel and its going to live in the car. When I park the car outside I'm going to photo the cars parked behind me and in front of me in case of the mongrels hits me while I'm away. Same with carparks and when it goes back to the dealer for service.

Anal I may be but its the only way to make sure someone doesn't mess me around.Don't blame you!!- There are so many A.....holes around these days who have no respect for their own property or anyone elses. In fact I don't think I'd ever leave our Monaro in a carpark-that's why we've got an Astra to run around in! Cheers, Pickles.

[CV8rII]

Hey all,

I'm in a dilemma at the moment.
I bought a cv8-R last year and I loove it.
Been edited, 3.91 diff, new headers and zorst.
Like I said I'm rapt with the car, but I'm a greedy summbitch and I can hear a Devil cv8-Z calling my name.
I know you're thinking "I should be so lucky to have such worries, punk".

What does anyone reckon ?

[SteveK]

Hey all,

I'm in a dilemma at the moment.
I bought a cv8-R last year and I loove it.
Been edited, 3.91 diff, new headers and zorst.
Like I said I'm rapt with the car, but I'm a greedy summbitch and I can hear a Devil cv8-Z calling my name.
I know you're thinking "I should be so lucky to have such worries, punk".

What does anyone reckon ?
You mean, you need to 'ask' about having 2 monaros in the garage? Shame on you sir, shame on you. If you hear ya name been callin', get them bridgestones haulin'.

Steve.

[CV8rII]

You mean, you need to 'ask' about having 2 monaros in the garage? Shame on you sir, shame on you. If you hear ya name been callin', get them bridgestones haulin'.

Steve.

Whoops, I actually meant to say trading in the R for the Z...

[YLD57L]

I would personally keep the 'R' as it is more exclusive, also makes more sense financially. And I like 'R's. Especially grey ones. Yum. But your money, your choice.

[dru19]

Whoops, I actually meant to say trading in the R for the Z...

If u can still get a Z then why not

dru

[Jimbo_AUS]

I would personally keep the 'R' as it is more exclusive, also makes more sense financially. And I like 'R's. Especially grey ones. Yum. But your money, your choice.

How is the "R" more exclusive?

[SteveK]

Whoops, I actually meant to say trading in the R for the Z...
No you didn't. Monaro owners do NOT speak like that. Blasphemy.

S.

[Muzzak]

How is the "R" more exclusive?


The R was nice. But it was nothing but a blip on the radar in the overall grand Monaro legend. The Z will be immortalised.

[CV8rII]

No you didn't. Monaro owners do NOT speak like that. Blasphemy.

S.

Okayyy ?? Back away slowly children and try not to look him in the eyes... ;)

[Maccas]

hey peoples just thought id let u know i had a look at one of the last cv8z that is for sale today over at mcrea white motors in wodonga, damn sexy peice of machinery down to every degree of perfection, only one thing i didnt like it was an auto :bash: sports car auto( sorry to the peoples that have autos) but hey sports car shouldnt it have a manual to be driven properly :rolleyes: but apart from that i want one lol tried to convince dad to change his new black berlina that is sitting next to it on the floor for it but he says its a lil out of his price range :eek: , nothing is ever out of reach i said just u mental attitude lol but he wont budge, he at least i have an v8 not a pansy 6 lol

[YLD57L]

How is the "R" more exclusive?

1200 Zs is about 10% of the total Australian Monaro production! Hardly an exclusive limited edition model. :confused: Reeks of marketing since they did nothing but changes some minimal parts and add Fusion which is a take on Tiga Mica.

How many Rs did they make? Two lots of 350? BTW, I am happy to corrected. :) As much as I like the Z and I suppose what it stands for (marketing bull' aside), with minimal changes made to the car it is a bit too much like a marketing stunt for me. :(

[Jimbo_AUS]

1200 Zs is about 10% of the total Australian Monaro production! Hardly an exclusive limited edition model. :confused: Reeks of marketing since they did nothing but changes some minimal parts and add Fusion which is a take on Tiga Mica.

How many Rs did they make? Two lots of 350? BTW, I am happy to corrected. :) As much as I like the Z and I suppose what it stands for (marketing bull' aside), with minimal changes made to the car it is a bit too much like a marketing stunt for me. :(

I didnt see any really cool ads for the R :)

They all look pretty much the same till you see the Fusion....then its instant recognision of the Z model.

[Snappa]

Just for everyone's info.

I enquired to get a fresh set of CV8Z mats, to store for later when the one i do have are worn...

they are!

$324 NON REFUNDABLE

I think Holdens are trying to make sure no one that owns a VZ will be able to dress it up to be a CV8Z, at least not cheaply!

Wonder if you can purchase the rims and how much they will be!

[YLD57L]

I've been considering getting a second set of mats for my Monaro, for when the others wear out. Hope they aren't that much!

[Muzzak]

hey peoples just thought id let u know i had a look at one of the last cv8z that is for sale today over at mcrea white motors in wodonga, damn sexy peice of machinery down to every degree of perfection, only one thing i didnt like it was an auto :bash: sports car auto( sorry to the peoples that have autos) but hey sports car shouldnt it have a manual to be driven properly :rolleyes: but apart from that i want one lol tried to convince dad to change his new black berlina that is sitting next to it on the floor for it but he says its a lil out of his price range :eek: , nothing is ever out of reach i said just u mental attitude lol but he wont budge, he at least i have an v8 not a pansy 6 lol

The fastest car around Top Gears track for a long time in 2004 was the Mercedes McLaren - full auto. It only came in the auto - not tiptronic, no paddles. Just D R N

Muz

[dru19]

The fastest car around Top Gears track for a long time in 2004 was the Mercedes McLaren - full auto. It only came in the auto - not tiptronic, no paddles. Just D R N

Muz

I think the new BMW M5 is a V10 with a 7 speed tiptronic auto gearbox

Dru

[YLD57L]

The gearbox in the Mercedes is far more intelligent than the one in our Commodores (at least we can tune em).

The 7-speed SMG 'box in the M5 is not an auto it is a clutchless manual.

[Muzzak]

Clarkson also prefers the Aston Martin DB9 to the previous DB7 Vantage due to the DB9's auto box. However this is a tiptronic and has paddles.

Eventually I think cars will all be Auto with a tiptronic. Simply because we spend more time in the city than a racetrack. But when on ocasion we do go to the track, we can still have some of the control back.

Muz

[dru19]

The gearbox in the Mercedes is far more intelligent than the one in our Commodores (at least we can tune em).

The 7-speed SMG 'box in the M5 is not an auto it is a clutchless manual.


does the smg box change gears after a certain rev range but? like u hit 6000rpm then it goes up a gear or does it sit there reving its head off

Dru

[YLD57L]

You can put it in auto mode. And there are different harshness settings. It also has launch control.

[dru19]

so all in all its an auto :p :booty:

dru

[Pickles]

Just for everyone's info.

I enquired to get a fresh set of CV8Z mats, to store for later when the one i do have are worn...

they are!

$324 NON REFUNDABLE

I think Holdens are trying to make sure no one that owns a VZ will be able to dress it up to be a CV8Z, at least not cheaply!

Wonder if you can purchase the rims and how much they will be!If I was you, I would just go to Autobarn & buy large rubber mats to go over your CV8Z mats to preserve them. While you are driving, no-one sees the mats anyway, but if you are not driving it, showing it etc, then just lift up your rubber mats, & your CV8Z mats will be (& remain) in pristine condition underneath. We have done this for our Monaro & VN Group A, & the original mats are AS NEW, after years of use. Cheers, Pickles.

[zacz]

I think its just the CV8-Zs with the fusion interior that get the "CV8-Z" embroidered mats......other colours get just the basic monaro mat!

Would like to hear from people who have Zeds on other colours about their mats!

[dru19]

Thats stupid if it is, its not really giving a good send off is it.

They should do it for all CV8-Z's but the other colours just get silver embrodied

Dru

[OzJavelin]

Out driving near Lake Eppalock on Sunday, spotted a CV8Z. Said to the wife "thats the last of the current Monaros". Here reply "It's nice. Maybe we should buy one now that we've sold our house?" :eek: :)

[Dickie Knee]

Just for everyone's info.

I enquired to get a fresh set of CV8Z mats, to store for later when the one i do have are worn...

they are!

$324 NON REFUNDABLE

I think Holdens are trying to make sure no one that owns a VZ will be able to dress it up to be a CV8Z, at least not cheaply!

Wonder if you can purchase the rims and how much they will be!

RRP on the mats is $302.50
RRP on the wheels is 385.00 ea

[Snappa]

I have the Phantom CV8Z and definately have the mats!

Cheers

[monarocv8z]

RRP on the mats is $302.50
RRP on the wheels is 385.00 ea


You would think if the over price the mats they would over price the wheels... hmmmm

[Dickie Knee]

You would think if the over price the mats they would over price the wheels... hmmmm


I think the Wheels will be restricted by VIN number.

If you need 4 Holden will ask for police reports or stat decs

[monarocv8z]

yeah probably... but half the time its not what you know but who you know...
i finally got a tentative eta for mine for the 10th of next month....

[Muzzak]

So any news on the mats being exclusive to the orange interior cars only ?

Picking up my Yellow Devil soon and will confirm...anyone else ?

[Pickles]

So any news on the mats being exclusive to the orange interior cars only ?

Picking up my Yellow Devil soon and will confirm...anyone else ?
See my post on " Monaro availability"- my local dealer says "Z" mats only in Fusion & Phantom!! Cheers, Pickles.

[Snappa]

Yeah, I have Phantom, and in a prevoius reply with the pics of the car, you will see the mats, they are a Fusion Stitching (or should I say Tiga Mica Re-Badged for the Monaro :rolleyes: )

[CV8rII]

Hey all,

Went looking on Saturday and I must admit it was a hard decision.
I saw a Devil cv8-Z in the sun and man they look good :cool:
The darker lenses on the rear lights are just right and the wheels have a different finish to them which I reckon looks schmick.
Then the dealer took me round the back and showed me a pre-delivery Fusion and made my choice a whole damn lot harder.
The colour is different to what I expected and IMHO it looks ace !
There is a depth to the finish that looks like a couple of clear coats have been applied.
Long story short ; I ordered the Fusion and will hopefully be picking it up Friday night.

Kudos to the guys at Dandenong for their service, they're even swapping my diff out into the new car, (headers and zorst are not compatible)...
Roll on Friday nite.....

[MTC]

Wonder if you can purchase the rims and how much they will be!
Yeah Mate I've found a place that have two set of the CV8 Z rims. I should be picking up a set for the wagon tomorrow :D

[Jimbo_AUS]

This heads upo about the mats is worth its weight in gold i reckon.

I'm picking up my Fusion tomorrow and I would not have had a clue about the mats without this thread.

Thanks fellas :)

[Oldmonroman]

I bet you will have trouble sleeping tonight!.

[Jimbo_AUS]

Tonight and the last 2 weeks :)

[alexcs]

Yeah, I have Phantom, and in a prevoius reply with the pics of the car, you will see the mats, they are a Fusion Stitching (or should I say Tiga Mica Re-Badged for the Monaro :rolleyes: )

except instead of looking like vomit, its deeper and actually makes the monaro look good...

[dru19]

See my post on " Monaro availability"- my local dealer says "Z" mats only in Fusion & Phantom!! Cheers, Pickles.


That is sooooo stupid, it should of been across the board, why penalise ppl that didnt go for the gold or black, IMO thats really dum, but hey, ill see if i can get some CV8-Z mats in if i get the quicksilver :p

dru

[zacz]

I agree - its quite a disadvantage to people who dont get a fusion interior!

Im wondering if we can get the embroidery done ourselves on the supplied carpet mats? Just need some artwork of the logo....

By the way, Ive discovered another subtle change from VZ CV8s which hasnt been mentioned... all leather stitching on steering wheel, knobs and levers (for non-fusion interiors) is now silver-grey! So devil yellow gets grey stitching, quicksilver gets grey stitching (thank goodness!) and turismo gets grey stitching.

Hey Jimbo AUS - congrats and take lots of pics when you pick up your car....that is when you get back from that really really long drive which Im sure you will take coming back from the dealership! ;)

[Jimbo_AUS]

Hey Jimbo AUS - congrats and take lots of pics when you pick up your car....that is when you get back from that really really long drive which Im sure you will take coming back from the dealership! ;)

Thanks mate...I'm picking it up at Gordon in Sydney which is about 5 k's away from the F3 Freeway. So I'm going to drive it straight up to the central coast on the freeway and come back via the old pac hwy to town and show the boys at work.

[dru19]

Thanks mate...I'm picking it up at Gordon in Sydney which is about 5 k's away from the F3 Freeway. So I'm going to drive it straight up to the central coast on the freeway and come back via the old pac hwy to town and show the boys at work.


you got it yet jimbo?

dru

[NickS]

you got it yet jimbo?

dru
Probably still driving :lol:

[Muzzak]

HAHAHA

Picked up my Devil CV8Z late this afternoon. Lovin it. Definetly no CV8Z embroidery on floor mats, shame - but really stepping all over the CV8Z logo would be a disgrace anyway ~!

Couple of oddities if someone can please validate :

a) I have two car keys - but only 1 boot key ? Seem strange!

b) I have the Red (positive) battery plastic cover, but no cover on the negatie ? What the ? Funny thing is - the battery was flat when they tried starting the car to hand it over to me. They promptly bummed it using the big portable battery jumper. Maybe they took it off (or ripped it off considering the red one is attached - and did not put it back). Any ideas.

Off for a spin !

Muz

[zacz]

Congrats Muzzak!

Would like to help answer your questions on keys and battery - but I wont be able to do that till i take delivery of my Zed in a couple of weeks!

If you get a chance - post up some pics!

Anyone heard from JimboAUS? This must be what happens when the Monaro gets under your skin......you just cant stop driving the beast!
:cool:

[HERCULES]

HAHAHA

Picked up my Devil CV8Z late this afternoon. Lovin it. Definetly no CV8Z embroidery on floor mats, shame - but really stepping all over the CV8Z logo would be a disgrace anyway ~!

Couple of oddities if someone can please validate :

a) I have two car keys - but only 1 boot key ? Seem strange!

b) I have the Red (positive) battery plastic cover, but no cover on the negatie ? What the ? Funny thing is - the battery was flat when they tried starting the car to hand it over to me. They promptly bummed it using the big portable battery jumper. Maybe they took it off (or ripped it off considering the red one is attached - and did not put it back). Any ideas.

Off for a spin !

Muz

Dont know about the CV8-Z although my VY SS also has only a cover on the positive rail of the battery, no cover on the negative... Dont know why .. stupid i think.

And 1 boot key??
Once again dont know about the CV8-Z but my SS has a remote boot lock on both keys?

Congrats on the new car too.... you will be using a fair bit of fuel cruising around in it now that its new. :)

[Muzzak]

Dont know about the CV8-Z although my VY SS also has only a cover on the positive rail of the battery, no cover on the negative... Dont know why .. stupid i think.

And 1 boot key??
Once again dont know about the CV8-Z but my SS has a remote boot lock on both keys?

Congrats on the new car too.... you will be using a fair bit of fuel cruising around in it now that its new. :)


Haha, I meant glove box key ! In all the excitement my brain and fingers were not communicating ! As far as I remeber I had 2 keys for my SS which I sold 8 wees ago..... too far back to remember clearly now !

Thanks for the heads up on the no batt cover on the negative side ! Odd !

Muz

[Jimbo_AUS]

I'm home :)

Just got the new girl home after a marathon session :)

Loving it totally.

Pic and story to follow....gotta get a coffee and wake up a bit.

[Jimbo_AUS]

Ok armed with life saving coffee I can type.

1 glove box key is correct. They only deliver it with one and it can only be replaced by Holden. Keep the tag because it has the unique holden number is on it for replacement.

Got the Z mats with mine as well.

Mine only has the battery cover on the positive.....weird that.

I picked up me new Fusion Z at Gordon on Thursday 1pm....perfect day and took it straight up the F3 to get used to it and fiddle with its bits. She was purring and I had a bit of fun.

Headed back into town to work to show it off to the boys in my team. Parked down in our buildings underground carpark and they all came down for a looksee. I was like a proud father of course. They loved it and jealousy was rife :)

Took a spin down George St and I'm sure a few ppl actually hurt themselves by snapping their heads around to look at it.

Drove most of the night and came home dead tired and slept.....5 hours later "blink" I'm awake and out. Drive up to the central coast to get my daughter who is 14 and brought her back with me. We had to go via her little friends house because her friend didnt believe her about me getting it. More adulation and then back to town.

Got her tinted yesterday. 35% but I wished I had gotten 20% now. Still it looks mean and the guy did a great job. Can't roll the windows down yet....but maybe tomorrow.

Funny thing happened in Epping. I'm driving down blaxland rd and roll past an intersection that a cop is pulling up to on my right and is making a left hand turn away opposite me. Next set of lights the cop car comes screaming up behind me and pulls up next to me. It's 2 cop chicks and they have a look at me and one says.....love your car mate. We had a little chat and they drove off. Nice touch :)

My camera charger is at work so no pics till I get it back....sorry.

Gotta say I love the car and I'm totally happy with the finish and quality. Rock solid.

A couple of things tho.

I didnt check the odo when I picked it up. I checked it later on Thursday and it said 127k's. Now I worked out that I had driven maybe 70k's since pickup. Which means it had 57 k's on it roughly at pick up time. This seems like a lot?

Any thoughts there?

Also it seems to strugle with working out whether to take off in first or second unless you give it a little bit of stick at the lights. It's an auto. It's like its trying to decide on a gear and sorted uses second until you give it a bit more power then its fine. Wallowing is the best way to describe it.

Well I'm off to the gong for a blat and see some mates....catchya's later.

[pacer265]

A couple of things tho.

I didnt check the odo when I picked it up. I checked it later on Thursday and it said 127k's. Now I worked out that I had driven maybe 70k's since pickup. Which means it had 57 k's on it roughly at pick up time. This seems like a lot?

Any thoughts there?



I was going to post the same question today - how many k's can you expect on a new car when picking it up?

Great post Jim - fantastic weekend to be taking it out for a spin!

[CV8rII]

[QUOTE=pacer265]I was going to post the same question today - how many k's can you expect on a new car when picking it up?

Got my Fusion Z last night and it also had around 65 km on it.
The tint was done in house so not that.
They did swap over my 3.91 diff so that may have needed some running in ?

[zacz]

We got worried there for a bit Jimbo AUS! Good to see youre loving the zed!

The issue you have should dissapear once the Auto trans "learns" how you drive and loosens up a bit.....if its still happening at 1000km i would be worried!

Its not uncommon for new cars to be delivered with between 20 and 40kms...at the end of the day they are driven to various places to get the pre-delivery work done, then theres on and off the trucks and around the yards etc

Im curious why you say you wish you got the 20% tinting...I always thought it wouldve looked a lot better to be as dark as you can...is it perhaps TOO dark?

My dealer was saying for me to get the 35% i had to sign a waiver... what do you guys reckon?

[Muzzak]

Ok armed with life saving coffee I can type.

1 glove box key is correct. They only deliver it with one and it can only be replaced by Holden. Keep the tag because it has the unique holden number is on it for replacement.

Mine only has the battery cover on the positive.....weird that.



Ok Cheers !


Ok armed with life saving coffee I can type.

Got her tinted yesterday. 35% but I wished I had gotten 20% now. Still it looks mean and the guy did a great job. Can't roll the windows down yet....but maybe tomorrow.


Mine was tinted by the dealer as part of the deal - not pulling windows down till tonight !



Ok armed with life saving coffee I can type.

Funny thing happened in Epping. I'm driving down blaxland rd and roll past an intersection that a cop is pulling up to on my right and is making a left hand turn away opposite me. Next set of lights the cop car comes screaming up behind me and pulls up next to me. It's 2 cop chicks and they have a look at me and one says.....love your car mate. We had a little chat and they drove off. Nice touch :)


Hahah, what a riot.



Ok armed with life saving coffee I can type.

A couple of things tho.

I didnt check the odo when I picked it up. I checked it later on Thursday and it said 127k's. Now I worked out that I had driven maybe 70k's since pickup. Which means it had 57 k's on it roughly at pick up time. This seems like a lot?

Any thoughts there?


Mine had 13k on the clock.



Ok armed with life saving coffee I can type.

Also it seems to strugle with working out whether to take off in first or second unless you give it a little bit of stick at the lights. It's an auto. It's like its trying to decide on a gear and sorted uses second until you give it a bit more power then its fine. Wallowing is the best way to describe it.



Have not noticed this on my Auto. Will keep an eye on it and report back.


Muz

[seldo]

Dont know about the CV8-Z although my VY SS also has only a cover on the positive rail of the battery, no cover on the negative... Dont know why .. stupid i think............

It's because you can short the earth (-ve) terminal to earth , to your heart's content and it will do nothing....

[Jimbo_AUS]

We got worried there for a bit Jimbo AUS! Good to see youre loving the zed!

Im curious why you say you wish you got the 20% tinting...I always thought it wouldve looked a lot better to be as dark as you can...is it perhaps TOO dark?

My dealer was saying for me to get the 35% i had to sign a waiver... what do you guys reckon?

The 35% tinting is the dark standard tint that you can get anywhere and the 20% is darker again.....really dark almost black. You can get 5% tinting as well but its illegal and might get you a defect. They use it in limo's and such.

The 35% is fine really and totally legal in NSW. I'm not sure about other states tho.

[dru19]

Hahahaha

good work jimbo

got confirmation on my order, coming in November, so a little wait, but well worth it

cheers
dru

[Jimbo_AUS]

Hahahaha

good work jimbo

got confirmation on my order, coming in November, so a little wait, but well worth it

cheers
dru

Good news dru....long wait with plenty of "hard to get to sleep" nights but yeah its all worth it.

I'm giving her the first bath today.....600k's of road grime to remove.

[dru19]

hahhahaha good work mate

600kms already lol nice nice

raced anything yet ?! lolz

once i get mine we should hook up for a cruise

cheers
dru

[vt clubsport]

Congrats to all you new cv8-z owners,I picked my fusion CV8-Z 2 days ago and i cant stop looking and driving it.
As you all might remember i owned a VZ SS for almost 3.5 months and hated it,it was slow and doughy.I had the car edited and it went much better but no where near as torquey as the CV8-Z. My CV8-Z is greattttttttttt.
I love every thing about it.
I think these CV8-Z are going to be a collectors item,But hey their built to drive.
I have to take mine in on monday,for the sunroof to be adjusted (slight wind noise),and also to look at the electric seats (works on and off)
About the keys, i got 2 keys both with 3 buttons and 1 glove box key.
2 questions for fellow coupe owners,I am looking for rear cup holders,I know you are all thinking how poxy,but i have two kids and stuffed if im taking the chance of a drink spilling,I have seen these cup holders in earlyer HSV coupes.
Last question anyone know if VT and VX boot spoilers fit these CV8-Z as i feel that extra boot spoiler would top the car off.

Cheers

[Jimbo_AUS]

raced anything yet ?! lolz

once i get mine we should hook up for a cruise

cheers
dru

Nah haven't raced anything.....long weekend with double demerits...so I'm driving like miss daisy mostly.

A cruise sounds good....I'm up for it for sure.

[Dickie Knee]

...........I am looking for rear cup holders,I know you are all thinking how poxy,but i have two kids and stuffed if im taking the chance of a drink spilling,I have seen these cup holders in earlyer HSV coupes............

Cheers


HSV just used cup holder out of the front of the older CV8s for the back seat.

[vt clubsport]

Thanks for the quick response,
I have called 2 holden dealerships,and both have no idea what im on about the last guy said he would look for me and never called back.
So to get this right,all i have to do is call HSV parts and ask for a VT/VX center console tool kit/cup holder section ???
Any part numbers guys as im sure holden will snuff me off.

Cheers

[Dickie Knee]

Thanks for the quick response,
I have called 2 holden dealerships,and both have no idea what im on about the last guy said he would look for me and never called back.
So to get this right,all i have to do is call HSV parts and ask for a VT/VX center console tool kit/cup holder section ???
Any part numbers guys as im sure holden will snuff me off.

Cheers

No.

HSV took the cup holder out of the front to put the tool kit in.

Then they took the STD Holden cup holder and fitted it to the rear seat.

So the part number needed is for the Holden cup holder.

Part number is 92102400

NVU may still have stock of these.

[alexcs]

Congrats to all you new cv8-z owners,I picked my fusion CV8-Z 2 days ago and i cant stop looking and driving it.
As you all might remember i owned a VZ SS for almost 3.5 months and hated it,it was slow and doughy.I had the car edited and it went much better but no where near as torquey as the CV8-Z. My CV8-Z is greattttttttttt.
I love every thing about it.
I think these CV8-Z are going to be a collectors item,But hey their built to drive.
I have to take mine in on monday,for the sunroof to be adjusted (slight wind noise),and also to look at the electric seats (works on and off)
About the keys, i got 2 keys both with 3 buttons and 1 glove box key.
2 questions for fellow coupe owners,I am looking for rear cup holders,I know you are all thinking how poxy,but i have two kids and stuffed if im taking the chance of a drink spilling,I have seen these cup holders in earlyer HSV coupes.
Last question anyone know if VT and VX boot spoilers fit these CV8-Z as i feel that extra boot spoiler would top the car off.

Cheers


no offense but this sounds ridiculous. 10fwkw is going to change a doughy POS into some superstar? well done on getting a cv8z, but i think youre being a little emotional :)

[zacz]

no offense but this sounds ridiculous. 10fwkw is going to change a doughy POS into some superstar? well done on getting a cv8z, but i think youre being a little emotional :)

hey Alexcs....

There is a marked noticeable difference between VZ SS and VZ CV8.......and its not just the extra horses under the bonnet which on their own are not as significant. Its the gearing that is a lot different which gives the CV8 more pepper down low - compared to the SS. That - and also the additional torque make the CV8 feel a lot gruntier than the SS.

[NickS]

I am looking for rear cup holders,I know you are all thinking how poxy,but i have two kids and stuffed if im taking the chance of a drink spilling ...
I spent many hours trying to solve this same problem, I came up with the perfect solution ...



















NO FOOD OR DRINK IN MY CAR ... EVER !!! :lol:

[VooDoo]

Congrats to all you new cv8-z owners,I picked my fusion CV8-Z 2 days ago and i cant stop looking and driving it.
As you all might remember i owned a VZ SS for almost 3.5 months and hated it,it was slow and doughy.I had the car edited and it went much better but no where near as torquey as the CV8-Z. My CV8-Z is greattttttttttt.
I love every thing about it.
I think these CV8-Z are going to be a collectors item,But hey their built to drive.
I have to take mine in on monday,for the sunroof to be adjusted (slight wind noise),and also to look at the electric seats (works on and off)
About the keys, i got 2 keys both with 3 buttons and 1 glove box key.
2 questions for fellow coupe owners,I am looking for rear cup holders,I know you are all thinking how poxy,but i have two kids and stuffed if im taking the chance of a drink spilling,I have seen these cup holders in earlyer HSV coupes.
Last question anyone know if VT and VX boot spoilers fit these CV8-Z as i feel that extra boot spoiler would top the car off.

Cheers

That wasnt a Black VZ SS was it, just under 10'000k's when traded, Sureflow exhaust etc..... I detailed it on Friday for the dealer.

[vt clubsport]

Sure was,what did you think,looked and sounded nice

[Pickles]

Congrats to all you new cv8-z owners,I picked my fusion CV8-Z 2 days ago and i cant stop looking and driving it.
As you all might remember i owned a VZ SS for almost 3.5 months and hated it,it was slow and doughy.I had the car edited and it went much better but no where near as torquey as the CV8-Z. My CV8-Z is greattttttttttt.
I love every thing about it.
I think these CV8-Z are going to be a collectors item,But hey their built to drive.
I have to take mine in on monday,for the sunroof to be adjusted (slight wind noise),and also to look at the electric seats (works on and off)
About the keys, i got 2 keys both with 3 buttons and 1 glove box key.
2 questions for fellow coupe owners,I am looking for rear cup holders,I know you are all thinking how poxy,but i have two kids and stuffed if im taking the chance of a drink spilling,I have seen these cup holders in earlyer HSV coupes.
Last question anyone know if VT and VX boot spoilers fit these CV8-Z as i feel that extra boot spoiler would top the car off.

CheersThe spoiler that you require is the "classic" spoiler, available as a Monaro accessory from your Holden Dealer. I agree that the spoiler does "top the car off" as you say, but many people disagree--however, we've got one fitted to our Monaro, & we love it! Cheers, Pickles

[BLQWN]

Well i finally got it! 11k's on the clock, Turrismo 6 spd, no CV8Z mats, only std ones.
Spare parts guy says only fusion and phantom get them????. that sux. The VZ monaro sales brochure and the manual both say auto darkening and electric controlled centre rear vision mirror, mine is a manual std one???? that sux. Got the pre delivery sheet for it and started a log book right there and then.
A- for my sanity and B- for tax purposes.
Very happy with the paint and build quality, and the dead cow smell.....mmmm, luv that too.
Drove it all weekend, took family and a few good mates for a ride, their one chance to get in it.
Then let the wife take it by herself for 47mins...............
Yeah i counted every heartbeat, while trying to look after our 3 kids under 6yrs old.
Strange feeling, it is hers too, and i do trust her......honest.
Sentimental bit.....i've only had old cars, never really liked commi's and late model stuff
Drove an old HQ ute (308) and the missus has always had a Gemini and a VP commi,
always had my HQ GTS, 12yrs and my HK GTS, 12months, and only through hard work, smart housing moves and now owning my own business do i really appreciate a car like this.
It only after getting out of it and standing there gobsmacked looking at it do you realise how good this is.
.....Anyway better get some work done to pay for it i spose.
cheers and beers

[zacz]

Well i finally got it! 11k's on the clock, Turrismo 6 spd, no CV8Z mats, only std ones.
Spare parts guy says only fusion and phantom get them????. that sux. The VZ monaro sales brochure and the manual both say auto darkening and electric controlled centre rear vision mirror, mine is a manual std one???? that sux. Got the pre delivery sheet for it and started a log book right there and then.
A- for my sanity and B- for tax purposes.
Very happy with the paint and build quality, and the dead cow smell.....mmmm, luv that too.
Drove it all weekend, took family and a few good mates for a ride, their one chance to get in it.
Then let the wife take it by herself for 47mins...............
Yeah i counted every heartbeat, while trying to look after our 3 kids under 6yrs old.
Strange feeling, it is hers too, and i do trust her......honest.
Sentimental bit.....i've only had old cars, never really liked commi's and late model stuff
Drove an old HQ ute (308) and the missus has always had a Gemini and a VP commi,
always had my HQ GTS, 12yrs and my HK GTS, 12months, and only through hard work, smart housing moves and now owning my own business do i really appreciate a car like this.
It only after getting out of it and standing there gobsmacked looking at it do you realise how good this is.
.....Anyway better get some work done to pay for it i spose.
cheers and beers

Great news CV8ZED, congratulations!

Im a bit surprised to hear the beancounters have taken out the chromatic rearview mirrors! That makes 2 things that have been de-specced on the CV8Z compared to the CV8 - the chromatic mirror and also the footrest pedal alloy cover! Doh!

I wonder if these items can be retro-fitted? Anyone know part numbers and costs?

[Muzzak]

The VZ monaro sales brochure and the manual both say auto darkening and electric controlled centre rear vision mirror, mine is a manual std one???? that sux.


I got 250 clicks on the odo after the weekend. Not much but I did have to do some home construction and a whole day social event to attend. Haha I've been playing miss daisy, but this thing flies with as little as the weight of my shoe on the pedal !

I was also going to enquire about the mirror. I also have the bog standard one in my Munro - considering the luxury level of this car is equivelent to the Statesman this makes no sense to me. Anybody get the auto mirror with their CV8Z or even with the VZ as standard ?

Muz

[SteveK]

Great news CV8ZED, congratulations!

Im a bit surprised to hear the beancounters have taken out the chromatic rearview mirrors! That makes 2 things that have been de-specced on the CV8Z compared to the CV8 - the chromatic mirror and also the footrest pedal alloy cover! Doh!

I wonder if these items can be retro-fitted? Anyone know part numbers and costs?

News like this makes me wonder just how 'valuable' these Zeds will be in the long run. I'd like to see the numbers of VZ CV8s sold in comparison. Would be interesting to see f there is actually less than 1200 of them in comparison. Which one is the collectible?

[SteveK]

I was also going to enquire about the mirror. I also have the bog standard one in my Munro - considering the luxury level of this car is equivelent to the Statesman this makes no sense to me. Anybody get the auto mirror with their CV8Z or even with the VZ as standard ?
Standard on my VZ as well as the left pedal. Also have proper leather pockets behind front seats.

Steve.

[pacer265]

Standard on my VZ as well as the left pedal. Also have proper leather pockets behind front seats.

Steve.

I remember studying the Holden website at length to work out the differences between the regular CV8 vs CV8Z. I don't remember this coming up as a difference, has it been changed recently? I could be wrong of of course:

http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/featurelist?modelid=12003&catid=1004

[HRT Stroker]

I saw one of these CV8-Z's on the road yesterday and it was a fine looking bit of gear.......love the metallic broze colour (not sure what it's called, but it loked sweet!)

[Muzzak]

Standard on my VZ as well as the left pedal. Also have proper leather pockets behind front seats.

Steve.


The Electro-chromatic rear view mirror on the Holden website is definetly only Standard on the CV8 - not the Z. I have heard about the foot rest being alloy on the CV8 only. Have not heard the pocket difference. Any one comments on this. My Z definetly is synthetic for the pocket. To check - look inside the pocket - the underside should tell the story - otherwise you won't be able to tell.

Holden - first the SS Z, and now cost cutting on the latest Munro, hell of a way to butcher your own brand.

Muz

[MTC]

I saw one of these CV8-Z's on the road yesterday and it was a fine looking bit of gear.......love the metallic broze colour (not sure what it's called, but it loked sweet!) Yeah there very very Nice & that colour "Fusion" also looks the goods on them. I have brought a set of the CV8-Z rims & put them on the wagon. Great rims being Machined faced with the grey accent's & embossed CV8-z in them.

[Muzzak]

News like this makes me wonder just how 'valuable' these Zeds will be in the long run. I'd like to see the numbers of VZ CV8s sold in comparison. Would be interesting to see f there is actually less than 1200 of them in comparison. Which one is the collectible?


The Z will always be the most saught after Monaro in the future - but these Mickey Mouse cost savings do Holden no favours. Thats it, I'm going to Ford.. HAHA

[vt clubsport]

no offense but this sounds ridiculous. 10fwkw is going to change a doughy POS into some superstar? well done on getting a cv8z, but i think youre being a little emotional :)


I think zacz is correct,as the car feels totaly different to the VZ SS,it pulls very cleanly and more touchy down low.

I re

[zacz]

News like this makes me wonder just how 'valuable' these Zeds will be in the long run. I'd like to see the numbers of VZ CV8s sold in comparison. Would be interesting to see f there is actually less than 1200 of them in comparison. Which one is the collectible?

Hi Mynaro!

Its an interesting point....

I have it on good authority that till the end of Aug, 1585 VZ CV8s had been sold...assuming that they got another 200 or so in stock at that point, that would mean that around 1800 VZ CV8s will have been sold compared to 1200 CV8-Z's. So this last model doesnt really seem that "limited" after all does it?

But in any event, it is still something special...always will be. And the VZ in whatever guise really is the best of the bunch.......

Lets face it, we are all enthusiasts who love driving (look at Jimbo AUS - he hasnt been home in days! :D ) - so who can really put a price on the pleasure of driving one of these fine australian sports cars?

Like i say to people - if you want an investment - buy property, bonds or shares! If you want fun - buy a sports car you wanna drive!

[YLD57L]

My thoughts exactly. A good way to cash in on the last of an emotional image model by Holden and it's working as seen by the responses here. :)

[Muzzak]

My thoughts exactly. A good way to cash in on the last of an emotional image model by Holden and it's working as seen by the responses here. :)

And will keep on working...even ten years down the track. A send off is always a good thing. I do tend to think they should have done it bigger - e.g. 5 - 10 extra fwkw or something would have made it absolutely brilliant.

But then you burn the loyalists with the previous model even more. It's a catch 22 situation. As it is the Monaro has gone out with a bang - as opposed to a nuclear explosion.

Muz

[SteveK]

I'd like to think the Monaro is going out the same way it came in, with a bang and with style.

Steve.

[YLD57L]

I also agree with that Mynaro. There are two sides to the coin. :)

[Dacious]

Hi Mynaro!

Its an interesting point....

I have it on good authority that till the end of Aug, 1585 VZ CV8s had been sold...assuming that they got another 200 or so in stock at that point, that would mean that around 1800 VZ CV8s will have been sold compared to 1200 CV8-Z's. So this last model doesnt really seem that "limited" after all does it?

But in any event, it is still something special...always will be. And the VZ in whatever guise really is the best of the bunch.......



I actually prefer mine, as it is missing the scoops and bodywork 'improvements', about 100kg in weight and especially the repositioned fuel tank. Also the requirement for premium fuel. Plus a SIII was actually made in fewer numbers than SI, SII or the total of VZ. Of course the straight CV8-Z is rarer counted on its own. Mine in manual might be the rarest combination. It might just mean everyone else has more taste than me..... :o

That's quibbling, though. They're all good, and still a pretty special vehicle - maybe not as special as a HK GTS, but special all the same.

[Pickles]

I actually prefer mine, as it is missing the scoops and bodywork 'improvements', about 100kg in weight and especially the repositioned fuel tank. Also the requirement for premium fuel. Plus a SIII was actually made in fewer numbers than SI, SII or the total of VZ. Of course the straight CV8-Z is rarer counted on its own. Mine in manual might be the rarest combination. It might just mean everyone else has more taste than me..... :o

That's quibbling, though. They're all good, and still a pretty special vehicle - maybe not as special as a HK GTS, but special all the same.
Hi there Dacious- Very well said! Owning a Series 111, although not such a rare colour as yours, I think the Series 111 is a pretty good combination as well. We use ours for week-end/holidays etc, & quite often fill the boot, with bags, collapsible chairs etc. Of course, we would survive with the smaller boot-but it just goes to show that earlier models do have some advantages. Cheers, Pickles.

[vt clubsport]

I have to admit i do miss the boot space.
I have no idea what im going to do if we go on a coastal family trip.No way am i being seen in the misses car (gen2 proton) :lol:
and im not towing a trailer,looks like ill have to tell the family no more holidays :box:

[Muzzak]

I have to admit i do miss the boot space.
I have no idea what im going to do if we go on a coastal family trip.No way am i being seen in the misses car (gen2 proton) :lol:
and im not towing a trailer,looks like ill have to tell the family no more holidays :box:


Hey - it fits a set of golf clubs. Thats the only requirement for a sports car.

[Red CV8 R]

I actually think the Series 1 to 3 models will be the most valuable eventually as they are the original NEW Monaro. This model looks like the concept car that blew everyone away and forced Holden to build the Monaro. It was the car that everyone was talking about when they first came out and the car that went through so much publicity in the months leading up to its release. That shape will stick in peoples minds over time.

Plenty of "non car people" I know loved the original but were very luke warm to the VZ. I was to. I waited for the VZ model as I thought this was the one to buy but in the end I chose a Series III as I liked the look of them alot better. Probably ended up with the last new CV8 R 6 speed in Australia. In the short term the VZ will probably hold its value better because alot of Monaro buyers think it looks tougher with the scoops, I personally HATE the scoops. The twin exhausts look good but dont really suit the car. The driveline improvements were great though.

In the end though they are all awesome cars and a true modern day classic! I love them :cool:

[phillipg]

I have to admit i do miss the boot space.
I have no idea what im going to do if we go on a coastal family trip.No way am i being seen in the misses car (gen2 proton) :lol:
and im not towing a trailer,looks like ill have to tell the family no more holidays :box:

No just tell the misses to go in the Proton with the kids and you in the Munro, that way you will arrive nice and fresh, problem solved :lol: :lol: :lol:

[vt clubsport]

lol great idea,I knew LS1.com was a great site

[Muzzak]

Just a side question. Has anybody gone through a decent Break & Rotor bedding in procedure on their new Z's. Have scanned through the manual breifly and did not notice any recommendations. If it is in the manual please excuse me - but my "man gene" simply forbids me from reading a "user guide" hahaha.

Muz

[BLQWN]

Good question Muz, excuse my ignorance but i didn't realise there was such a thing, didn't see it in the manual, but then again have only flicked thru it myself.
I asked the sales guy how i should drive it to start with and was told.. "keep it under 140kmh for a while". .....what? in 2nd gear???
Have done 416kms in total and not once hit the carpet,
Am i being too carefull? and whats this Break Rotor thing?
Curious..........no not that way........not that its a bad thing.......i'll stop now.

[vt clubsport]

I spoke to holden today and they inform me that the pads are Bendix.
below is the bendix bedding in procedure

1/ Accelerate vehicle to 60km/h
2/ Apply brakes using moderate to firm pedal effort, reducing speed to 5km/h
3/ Drive 100m - 200m accelerating to 60km/h
4/ Repeat steps 1 to 3 between 12 & 15 times

Hope this helps

[BLQWN]

Mmm...interesting, when do you do this?, is it only effective when they're replaced, or can it be done to freshen 'em up?
Still curious.....

[Jimbo_AUS]

I'm pretty sure that bedding in would be a once off before the brakes had 10k on them.

[vt clubsport]

i dont want to be the only one answering,im a mechanic by trade and you are correct this procedure must be done for all non aspestos brake pads.If pads are incorrectly bedded in they will fault due to the resin in the brake pad being cured to quickly/slowly.This procedure can not be done to freshen pads up.
If you have incorrectly bedded a brake pad in,it will cause the pad to squeal or groan,the only way to fix this,is to replace the brake pad and machine/reface the rotors,then rebed the brake pads

[Jimbo_AUS]

I have a feeling that the dealership did it to my Monaro before I picked it up.

The brakes felt "new but used" if you know what i mean and they haven't lost anything in 800k's. They still feel the same.

[vt clubsport]

as much as i hate to say it,but i doubt it very much,You guys dont realy want to know what is done in a PD (pre delivery) before you buy your cars.
We wish to think all has been done by the book but unfortunaly not.

[Muzzak]

I have a feeling that the dealership did it to my Monaro before I picked it up.

The brakes felt "new but used" if you know what i mean and they haven't lost anything in 800k's. They still feel the same.


That could explain the higher than average k's on yours. With my 13k upon pickup they havn't done jack shit. And yes, the breaks feel dull - hence in need of a good bedding in.

Muz

[Muzzak]

I spoke to holden today and they inform me that the pads are Bendix.
below is the bendix bedding in procedure

1/ Accelerate vehicle to 60km/h
2/ Apply brakes using moderate to firm pedal effort, reducing speed to 5km/h
3/ Drive 100m - 200m accelerating to 60km/h
4/ Repeat steps 1 to 3 between 12 & 15 times

Hope this helps


Thanks, sounds about right. Found a good link on brake & rotors bedding :

http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm

The link mentions 60mph...which is ~100km speeds. The other important thing is that at the last near-stop...keep on cruising for a while to let the breaks cool off..do not stop...so ensure no traffic jam !

They also mention that a second bedding in cycle AFTER COMPLETE COOL OFF to really get them sorted !


Muz

[pacer265]

as much as i hate to say it,but i doubt it very much,You guys dont realy want to know what is done in a PD (pre delivery) before you buy your cars.
We wish to think all has been done by the book but unfortunaly not.

vt clubsport,

might be heading off topic, but I'm keen to learn more if you are willing to tell what does go on PD vs what should go on in PD?

[Jimbo_AUS]

Well if I said I had a gut feeling that someone took a joyride in the car prior to me picking it up.....would that sound true :)

[zacz]

Well its nearly here! After 2 months of waiting I got the call today that my silver Zed is ready for pick up on friday! ;) :D :cool:

Cant wait!

I have a few questions for those of you who already drive Monaros - or those in the know:

1) Does the Monaro CV8Z have an alarm? If not - what alarm system integrates with it and is recommended?

2) What do you think of FIFTH DIMENSION paint / interior protection? (www.motorone.com.au) Ive been told this is a very good system...

3) With tinting windows, Im going for the 35% film.....but has anyone had trouble with radio reception and tinted windows when theres a glass antenna like in the VZ monaro? I have heard that some tints contain metallic compounds which actually cause interference!

4) Does the sunroof need to be tinted? I know it comes pre-tinted from the factory but was considering getting it tinted a bit too....not sure if it needs it though!

Thanks for your help!

Zac

[Jimbo_AUS]

Well its nearly here! After 2 months of waiting I got the call today that my silver Zed is ready for pick up on friday! ;) :D :cool:

Cant wait!

Congrats zacz....only 2 sleeps to go and you'll be in heaven.



I have a few questions for those of you who already drive Monaros - or those in the know:

1) Does the Monaro CV8Z have an alarm? If not - what alarm system integrates with it and is recommended?

Yes is has the standard Holden alarm and deadlock system.



3) With tinting windows, Im going for the 35% film.....but has anyone had trouble with radio reception and tinted windows when theres a glass antenna like in the VZ monaro? I have heard that some tints contain metallic compounds which actually cause interference!
?

You can get up to 20% tint in NSW without getting defected. Your tinter should be able to use metalic film on the sides and non-metallic on the read window. Thats what mine did. He also told me that the metallic tint only affects the AM band regardless.....so if you like John Laws...get the non metallic.



4) Does the sunroof need to be tinted? I know it comes pre-tinted from the factory but was considering getting it tinted a bit too....not sure if it needs it though!


I didnt do mine and I doin't really think it needs it actually.....its very dark as it is.

Hope you enjoy is mate.

[dru19]

hey jimbo

have you parked your car at work yet? or taken it shopping at all?

I dont know what its going to be like if i want to go see a movie or anything or park and got eat something lol

Dru

[zacz]

Thanx for the advice JimboAUS!

:)


Congrats zacz....only 2 sleeps to go and you'll be in heaven.



Yes is has the standard Holden alarm and deadlock system.



You can get up to 20% tint in NSW without getting defected. Your tinter should be able to use metalic film on the sides and non-metallic on the read window. Thats what mine did. He also told me that the metallic tint only affects the AM band regardless.....so if you like John Laws...get the non metallic.



I didnt do mine and I doin't really think it needs it actually.....its very dark as it is.

Hope you enjoy is mate.

[Jimbo_AUS]

hey jimbo

have you parked your car at work yet? or taken it shopping at all?

I dont know what its going to be like if i want to go see a movie or anything or park and got eat something lol

Dru

Yeah dru.....I'm parking it in town atm but in a safe spot. Still I worry tho. I parked it at the mall the other day and parked it close to a barrier wall so that it was protected from carts and stuff.

Well I dont eat or smoke in the car as a rule....so its either wait or stop and eat.

[dru19]

Yeah dru.....I'm parking it in town atm but in a safe spot. Still I worry tho. I parked it at the mall the other day and parked it close to a barrier wall so that it was protected from carts and stuff.

Well I dont eat or smoke in the car as a rule....so its either wait or stop and eat.


yeh well its always going to sit at the back of your mind, shit the car, lol

u going to show us some pics of your baby?

dru

[Jimbo_AUS]

I found a secure spot dru.....in an apartment block 10 mins walk from work and totally secure. $125 a month which is a total bargain for Sydney.

I'm going to take new pics tomorrow cause my tint is done and the other pics came out too dark. I'll post em soon.

When are you getting delivery of yours?

[zacz]

;) Finally picked up my Quicksilver CV8Z Manual today and got 120km on the clock already (100 of which were mine!!) :D :D

Only 1 major problem....RAIN RAIN RAIN!! :rolleyes:

What a magnificent car.......now I truly understand the passion and the fascination of having a big sports car with an unmistakable V8 burble!!! Its so damn addictive - pity its so quiet inside the car!!! :lol:

i can't wait to take the General's finest onto the open road in the country!

Anyway - onto a serious question though for ALL Monaro owners.....ive noticed on my Monaro instrument cluster that the readings in the rightmost window (where INST FUEL and FUEL USED etc appears) seems to be a bit wavy / flickery when looking at it from the passenger seat.

Straight ahead its fine! Also noticed that this problem is worsened when the instrument lights are dimmed...its totally ok and stable (non flickery/wavey) when totally bright but the dimmer it gets the more it flickers....

Has anyone experienced this problem? What can be done about it? Hopefully you guys can suggest something! :)

Aside from this minor quibble with the cluster....my only gripe was that the dealer didnt give me a full tank of go-fast juice and got me regular plates instead of the premium slim-type ones.... :mad:

But otherwise, I cant wait to go cruizin in the Beast! :cool:

Oh - and to settle the debates on the Ad and whether it was a Monaro sound or not - I can testify that it REALLY does sound like that! Very Very addictive let me tell you! :) :D

I could keep on talking about the Monaro.......and I will.....but i better get some Z's of my own!!

ZacZ
(Adelaide)

[dru19]

I found a secure spot dru.....in an apartment block 10 mins walk from work and totally secure. $125 a month which is a total bargain for Sydney.

I'm going to take new pics tomorrow cause my tint is done and the other pics came out too dark. I'll post em soon.

When are you getting delivery of yours?

Ahh very nice mate

delivery on November

[zacz]

Ahh very nice mate

delivery on November

Well done Dru - what colour?

I bet you cant sleep much coz of the excitement!

:D

[Muzzak]

Is anybody experiencing the infamous erratic fual guage behaviour with their Z ?


Muz

[Jimbo_AUS]

Well done zacz.....I know your going to love it mate.

I'll check the flickering in mine later and let you know. Haven't noticed it at this stage tho.


Is anybody experiencing the infamous erratic fual guage behaviour with their Z ?
Muz

Yeah Muz.....something is whack with mine. It seems to be stuck on half way now for a about 3 days. I'll check it again this arvo and see what it's on then.

I filled up the other day and the guage only went to 3/4 and then stopped. Then it dropped to half and sat there since. Weird.

[dru19]

Well done Dru - what colour?

I bet you cant sleep much coz of the excitement!

:D


Quicksilver, hahahah yeap cant sleep much lol

dru

[Muzzak]

;)
Anyway - onto a serious question though for ALL Monaro owners.....ive noticed on my Monaro instrument cluster that the readings in the rightmost window (where INST FUEL and FUEL USED etc appears) seems to be a bit wavy / flickery when looking at it from the passenger seat.

Straight ahead its fine! Also noticed that this problem is worsened when the instrument lights are dimmed...its totally ok and stable (non flickery/wavey) when totally bright but the dimmer it gets the more it flickers....

Has anyone experienced this problem? What can be done about it? Hopefully you guys can suggest something! :) (Adelaide)

Zacz, I have not noticed any funny bizzo on the LCD...however you may indeed have a problem :

Check theroad test of this VZ SV8...they also discuss wanky fuel readings.

http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,10703880%255E27286,00.html


Muz

[Muzzak]

Yeah Muz.....something is whack with mine. It seems to be stuck on half way now for a about 3 days. I'll check it again this arvo and see what it's on then.

I filled up the other day and the guage only went to 3/4 and then stopped. Then it dropped to half and sat there since. Weird.


Only having the Z for a week I filled it up twice since. Strange situation both times. When I parked the car - the analogue gauge showed 1/4 tank full. Upon my return to the car a while later, started it up – and lo and behold the gauge is showing absolutely no fuel! And this is no hill parking, it’s perfectly level ground.

Both times - thinking I had more than enough fuel to go on about my business for considerable more K’s, I ended up in mad panic flogging it down to the closest servo to give it some juice !

Each occasion I had to put in ~60 litters. I cannot give a concrete km’s travelled from each tank as I’ve been messing around with the dash computer inadvertently resetting my trip data. This time I will start applying some science to this phenomenon.

All in all – it’s quite safe to say – Holden have done jack shit to fix this outstanding design issue – even cars made a few weeks ago are displaying symptoms you’d only perhaps attribute to Russian made Lada’s. And all this in $60k car +on-road costs. For shame. Hopefully this racket is busted wide open – because there is going to be hell to pay !!!


Muz

[Jimbo_AUS]

I think I might go fill up.....mine has been on half way all week and hasn't really moved at all. I have NO IDEA how much fuel I have now.

I must say this is really slack.....its been an issue for ages it seems and you would think they would fix it in this last batch.

[monarocv8z]

i'll have to check the lights and fuel gauge issues next week when i pick up mine...

[vt clubsport]

No problems with mine
Have problems with the drivers electric seat though,It wont remember its memory setting and the seat wont work electricaly (back and forward) she has already been to holden for 3 days they said they fixed the 2 seats and the sunroof whistle,but it didnt even last the trip home.
I love the car to death but i wish these mechanics would do there job properly.Its been in the workshop for 3 days ive owned it for approx 8 :lol:

[Muzzak]

It's a damn shame we have to pollute this "Last of a Legend" thread with problems. But I for one have had enough of this ridiculous problem.

I've run out of fuel countless times in my 6 yo SS (from new) due to exactly the same problem. I've concentrated more on my fuel gauge that the road in all those years...watching in awe petrol magically materialise in the tank as the gauge slowly crept by as much as 30% up during a regular cruise. Constantly calculating and measuring how many km's I've done so as not to run out of petrol in the middle of the freeway. And yes the car was back to the dealer throughout all those 6 years to get this issue resolved - did it? of course not. Eventually it wore me out, broke me like a dog - I ended up living with it. There was also the swish from the rear wheels that could never be fixed. If this swish also shows its head in this newer generation of Holdens - I'm going drive the car through the dealers front window !

The fuel gauge surely is a safety issue.....my eyes on the gauges not the road, or running out of petrol in busy areas creating potential for accidents.

What sort of retarded idiots cannot do something as simple as measure how much liquid is in a tank ?!? They better be able to fix it this time.


Muz

[Jimbo_AUS]

Well I just did a run down to Shellharbour and then filled up. The gauge is reading right in the middle of 1/2 and 3/4. I drove about 20k's and it is still in the same spot. I got into my garage and stopped the car and waited 5 mins and restarted. Same spot. :(

I'll get the dealer to check this out at 3000 service and see if they come up with anything.

[dru19]

Hey Jimbo

Drop the oil at 500k's if ur past it then do it a 1000k's.

Dru

[Jimbo_AUS]

Why dru? I checked the oil and it looks fine.

[dru19]

Why dru? I checked the oil and it looks fine.


Mate of mine works at holden and said its good practice, as the motor is brand new its better to get the run in oil out.

Im doing mine at 500, 1000 then 1500 then every 5000k's.

Holden does the first oil change at 10,000k's :mad:

Dru

[Jimbo_AUS]

Cool I might look into it this week then. What exactly did your mate say about the oil tho.

I had a good look at it today and its as clear as the day it went in.....it actually looks like it hasn't even been in an engine. It's very clear/yellow.

[dru19]

hey jimbo

nothing wrong with the oil its just good to get it changed as when the motor runs it, there might be little bits of metal fragments that will come out on the oil change

dru

[Jimbo_AUS]

oic...yeah hadn't thought of that actually. I might do it tomorrow and drop in some Penrite.

Ta

[dru19]

ill be using

castrol formula r 25w/50

dru

[Jimbo_AUS]

ill be using

castrol formula r 25w/50

dru

Hang on doesnt it need 10w/30. Thats what the manual says anyway.

[dru19]

Hang on doesnt it need 10w/30. Thats what the manual says anyway.

yes it does, but mate of mine from holden, has been using it in his mates VZ without missing a beat, the holden stuff is a bit too thin

dru

[Jimbo_AUS]

yes it does, but mate of mine from holden, has been using it in his mates VZ without missing a beat, the holden stuff is a bit too thin
dru

dru that sounds a little risky actually....it may need to be thinner for a reason and it might also affect your warranty if you deviate from the recommended weight.

Jimbo

[Pickles]

ill be using

castrol formula r 25w/50

druThat ia a TOP oil for older engines-used it in our VN Group A & other V8s we've owned. It's too thick for Gen 111's though- you'd want to be using 10w/30, or something like that. Cheers, Pickles.

[Snappa]

Here is another link to the CV8Z Commerical which was originally posted by Mynaro, and now has been re-cropped and with out the black surround.

This is still a lot better than what Holden is offering on their Download page.

Hopefully will get the 1080i version and make that available for the collectors!

CV8Z Commercial - Cropped (http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/Snappa/CV8Z.Commercial.avi)

[vt clubsport]

Here is another link to the CV8Z Commerical which was originally posted by Mynaro, and now has been re-cropped and with out the black surround.

This is still a lot better than what Holden is offering on their Download page.

Hopefully will get the 1080i version and make that available for the collectors!

CV8Z Commercial - Cropped (http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/Snappa/CV8Z.Commercial.avi)

Thanks Snappa,I am loving my CV8-Z and im collecting everything on it,The video clip on Holdens web site is crap.
Thanks once again Snappa

[monarocv8z]

I finally took delivery of my CV8z in fusion. I can't wipe the smile of my face. I can't beleive the difference in exhaust note from this one compared to the series 1 ( my bro has a series 1).

[pacer265]

I remember studying the Holden website at length to work out the differences between the regular CV8 vs CV8Z. I don't remember this coming up as a difference, has it been changed recently? I could be wrong of of course:

http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/featurelist?modelid=12003&catid=1004

Went to the NZ site by accident to check something. Noticed that the NZ CV8Z's get the rear view mirror and the Oz ones don't :( :

http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/monaro/cv8z/specs.html

[Jimbo_AUS]

I finally took delivery of my CV8z in fusion. I can't wipe the smile of my face. I can't beleive the difference in exhaust note from this one compared to the series 1 ( my bro has a series 1).

Congrats mate.....welcome to the Fusion club :)

Hope you enjoy it :goodtime:

[mad_monaro]

Whoever is getting their Devil CV8Z from Suttons Waitara early next week, I had a good squiz this morning :p ya lucky bugger - enjoy!!

[vt clubsport]

Went to the NZ site by accident to check something. Noticed that the NZ CV8Z's get the rear view mirror and the Oz ones don't :( :

http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/monaro/cv8z/specs.html

How annoying,i would have loved another gaget to play with ,to tell the truth i acctualy rang holden the day after i too delivery of mine because i thought they forgot to add my electric mirror.

Also congrats monarocv8z i still cant wipe the smile off my face either.

Ps: my fuel gauge reads a little slow when its on empty,eg: when im driving home it wll be just touching the red when i start it in the morning it says "VERY LOW" ZERO KMS LEFT.
Is this the fuel gauge fault guys are talking about as it only seems to hapen close to empty

[Muzzak]

Ps: my fuel gauge reads a little slow when its on empty,eg: when im driving home it wll be just touching the red when i start it in the morning it says "VERY LOW" ZERO KMS LEFT.
Is this the fuel gauge fault guys are talking about as it only seems to hapen close to empty


Yes, same on mine. I have above red. Park the car, come back later - I'm on empty. Went to dealer the other day to get a couple of things done- told them about the guage. Service guy told me it's a known issue - software fix was supposed to come from Holden in October. Now apparently delayed till ~December. Smells of bull to me frankly - and if it ever gets fixed, it will be a miracle. Keep on making a strong case for it tho - don't let up, complain consistently, otherwise they will never bother with it. My 2c.

Muz

[Muzzak]

How annoying,i would have loved another gaget to play with ,to tell the truth i acctualy rang holden the day after i too delivery of mine because i thought they forgot to add my electric mirror.



What did they tell you ? Wonder if it's worth while persuing to get one out of them gratis !

Muz

[vt clubsport]

The lady said "no sorry only the CV8 came out with that option"
Bloody kiwis get it though ha ha ha
I wonder if it has something to do with the glare from the sunroof playing havic with the electrics (more than likely its due to the fact of the free sunroof,different mags and limited edition numbers made)
Still think Holden should have gone all out and given all options as in the CV8 and added a spastic KW engine,but hey i love mine to bits id root it if i could (pipes too big) :lol:

Language Darren language :D

[dru19]

Went to the NZ site by accident to check something. Noticed that the NZ CV8Z's get the rear view mirror and the Oz ones don't :( :

http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/monaro/cv8z/specs.html


umm you sure? the chromatic rear view has no option tag next to it, its blank, meaning it doesnt get it

dru

[Dickie Knee]

umm you sure? the chromatic rear view has no option tag next to it, its blank, meaning it doesnt get it

dru

Parts catalogue says CV8-z doesn't get Electro chromatic mirror.

[mad_monaro]

Some Pics - this is Jimbo's.....

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/mad_monaro/ls1dinner13.jpg

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/mad_monaro/ls1dinner16.jpg

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/mad_monaro/ls1dinner17.jpg

[alexcs]

that thing needs superlows ASAP!

[YLD57L]

Holden Commodre variant's fuel gauges = bloody crap. :mad: That's all there is to it. Has been like that since the VT. I have heard numerous compaints from people with different models and years.

Mine is telling me I have used 70-odd litres of fuel, but I can only fit in 50-55L. It's also telling me I'm using 19.5L/100km round town, but when I work it out myself (off how much fuel I can fit in) I am only using 15.2 per 100kms. I get the 0kms to empty thing quite often, even though when I was last in the car it would be saying 20km or something.

The worst it was once it was saying I had 70kms left, turn car off, turn on and I have 0kms. That was when I first got it, gave me a scare that's for sure. It sucks how they can't get such a fundemental thing correct. :bash: My old Mazda ones were 10 times better. I hope they ditch the contract for whom ever supplies that part.