Seen on the news that you can use cooking fat for petrol. LOL

[Dane VN V8]

Was watching the news and some mechanic in Queensland has got a car running off cooking fat. He say's 20cent's to 40cent's a litre, :eek: What would the performance be like. They say in a couple of years the conversion kit would cost around $1500. I would rather run my car off gas then cooking fat :lol:

[VX2VESS]

thats diesel motors isn't it?

[VooDoo]

www.biodiesel.org/

What is biodiesel?
Very often, a broad, general description is used to define biodiesel in a way that is easy to understand by the general public. However, when these broad descriptions are adopted by an authoritative body as a formal definition, they can include a wide range of experimental fuels that are not biodiesel. The term “biodiesel” has a specific, technical definition that has been agreed to through a painstaking process by members of industry and government which has received full approval by the American Society of Testing and Materials (ASTM), the premier standard setting organization for fuels and fuel additives. That definition is used for purposes such as alternative fuel designation, EPA registration, or other regulatory purposes. Nonetheless, this specific technical definition can be confusing to the general public. We have, therefore, chosen to adopt two definitions for biodiesel. The “general definition” is a simple description for the general public. The “technical definition” should be adopted for use by customers for bid specification purposes or government entities for regulatory purposes.

General Definition of Biodiesel:
Biodiesel is a domestic, renewable fuel for diesel engines derived from natural oils like soybean oil, and which meets the specifications of ASTM D 6751.

Clarifying language to general definition:
Biodiesel can be used in any concentration with petroleum based diesel fuel in existing diesel engines with little or no modification. Biodiesel is not the same thing as raw vegetable oil. It is produced by a chemical process which removes the glycerin from the oil.

Technical Definition for Biodiesel (ASTM D 6751) and Biodiesel Blend:
Biodiesel, n—a fuel comprised of mono-alkyl esters of long chain fatty acids derived from vegetable oils or animal fats, designated B100, and meeting the requirements of ASTM D 6751.

Biodiesel Blend, n—a blend of biodiesel fuel meeting ASTM D 6751 with petroleum-based diesel fuel, designated BXX, where XX represents the volume percentage of biodiesel fuel in the blend.


Clarifying language to technical definition:
Biodiesel, as defined in D 6751, is registered with the US EPA as a fuel and a fuel additive under Section 211(b) of the Clean Air Act.

Biodiesel is typically produced by a reaction of a vegetable oil or animal fat with an alcohol such as methanol or ethanol in the presence of a catalyst to yield mono-alkyl esters and glycerin, which is removed.

[Jac001]

20 - 40C / L sounds great but thats with out any excess or taxes added which the government would add.

Unlike all the contraversy with using ethanol blend in petrol, Biodesiel can completely replace diesel (or be mised in any %) without any detrimentral effects to the motor.

If Holden offeres a VE/VF model with a resonable powered diesel motor with M6 or A6 i would seriously look at upgrading.

[Dacious]

Sure, that's OK. Use cooking fat for petrol.

Just never try to use petrol as cooking fat! :lol:

[O5BRKY]

There was some bloke in Vic, running a boat on cooking oil too, in yesterday's paper.
Hopefully the link works.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16757353%255E2862,00.html

[SV99]

1 of 3 (maybe all) things will happen with regards to BioFuels

If John Howard can make 38.5cpl on it he will add an excise or some other bullshit "greenhouse reduction levy"

or

He will ban the production of BioDiesel / BioFuels with out an Expensive permit to stop you making home grown fuel and have some big scare advertisment. (how it distroys the environment) or have a bullshit on today tonight.


or

Ban it. the Fuel Companies will kick up a stink and the govt will ban Biodiesels


:lol: There is a recycler guy in Newcastle who visits fish and chip shops and makes his own bio diesel. and when you smell the fumes from the truck it smells like Hamburgers. :D

[SS_Fury]

My old man owns an 80's hilux and a toyota surf and runs both of em off biodiesel. He is a milko and has got to know some shop owners over time and he is allowed to come and collect the fat from their cooking when their drums are filled. He robs a bit of business of the fat collectors, known as 'Fataway' but the shop owners dont mind, they just want to get rid of it. He makes up barrells of diesel that sits in his shed and laughs at the suckers at the bowsers. It costs him around 20 cents per litre, and thats factoring in things like caustic soda, plastic fuel filters to strain the stuff etc.

[Danv8]

My old man owns an 80's hilux and a toyota surf and runs both of em off biodiesel. He is a milko and has got to know some shop owners over time and he is allowed to come and collect the fat from their cooking when their drums are filled. He robs a bit of business of the fat collectors, known as 'Fataway' but the shop owners dont mind, they just want to get rid of it. He makes up barrells of diesel that sits in his shed and laughs at the suckers at the bowsers. It costs him around 20 cents per litre, and thats factoring in things like caustic soda, plastic fuel filters to strain the stuff etc.

Good on him I also have made Biodiesel probably make some more next year. I am a huge fan on the stuff actually. :)

[JBonDSS]

I was chatting a farmer 2-3 years ago about bio-diesel, he ran all his tractors & equipment of on it, he was also saying the tractors go just as hard in the tractor pull competitions he enters.

It seems to be pretty good stuff,

[monarocv8z]

I think that now they have made the bio desiel option so public i reckon there wont be may shops now giving away there left over fat for nothing. I think they have just shot themselves in the foot. Shop owners will now start charging for the stuff....

[SS_Fury]

you may be right about that, but at the moment companies are charging them (shop owners) to remove fat, so if they do start charging the everyday folk to take their fat it atleast shouldnt be too much.

[SteveK]

Don't the LS1s run on oil too? :D

[monarocv8z]

Don't the LS1s run on oil too? :D
LOL :) :) :)

[AMLagonda]

you may be right about that, but at the moment companies are charging them (shop owners) to remove fat, so if they do start charging the everyday folk to take their fat it atleast shouldnt be too much.

Um companies pay to take the stuff we dont pay them.

I would love to know how to make the stuff, I might buy a deisel just to do that.

[V8R]

http://www.shortcircuit.com.au/warfa/WVOMazdaDiesel.htm

Have a bit of a read, this bloke has done alot of "inplace" R&D on running his vehicle on "fat"..

[SteveK]

Brings a totally new meaning to all those Fully Sick omygod people claiming their V8s are Totally PHAT.

[SS_Fury]

eye ye ye ye :doh:

[Danv8]

Who needs exercise burn fat whilst driving. ;)

[clixanup]

None of this should come as a surprise. Diesels were originally designed to run on peanut oil...

[SteveK]

eye ye ye ye :doh:
Don't blame me, Thorpie started it.

Atleast I have chicken.