Dissapointed Adventra Owner [Archive] - Australian LS1 and Holden Forums

Y2kGoofball

15-10-2005, 09:01 PM

Hey all

Its with a bit of dissapointment I read today the new S3X that Holden has unveiled at the Motor Show is almost destined to kill off the Adventra in 2006.

Having just brought an Adventra (well the family brought it anyway) mainly for towing a quite large boat its a bit of an upset Holden now decide to release details of their 7 seater Territory/Klugger equal.

Had there been some talk of it we would have held off for another 12 months if it meant being able to buy something slightly larger.

We're quite wrapped with the VZ Adventra, it does its job towing wise, is comfortable and just like a Commodore handling wise, but as time goes on its starting to sound more and more like it'll be "the last of its kind", its just a bit of a dissapointment there wasnt any hints of this new AWD (I saw it dubbed a 4WD in a newspaper article) earlier.

Especially now that I pass 4 or 5 VZ Adventras each day and they seem to be growing in number on the roads as time goes on.

Ah well, I look forward to the reviews of the S3X !!!

FunkyPig

15-10-2005, 10:22 PM

While Adventra sales have been lower than expected, I wouldn't assume the Daewoo S3X is a replacement. If Holden is still using AWD for VE based cars, than its possible some form of Commodore based off roader could still co-exist with the S3X. It doesn't cost Holden much more when the car and the hardware is already available and in production. I guess the real issue might be complexity of build and the fact it gets in the way of building more Commodores.

who_me_?

15-10-2005, 10:57 PM

The prospect of the Holden bringing in a rebadged Daewoo SUV had been mentioned some months ago so the showing wasn't a surprise to me.

While I have bought a Adventra, I doubt I will be getting Adventrwoo when it is released. I am fairly sure once it is with normal wheels (not 20's) it won't look appealing especially interiorwise. I like the LX6 but Korean luxury means light colours and woodgrain - things I hate. Lets hope for something tasteful but I am not confident.

The Adventra isn't the same sort of vehicle. Hard to put your finger on it but somehow the modified Commodore is a better idea than getting a Daewoo that comprises a new platform even if the V6 is a smaller version of what we have now. By the way out here in the country, we are also seeing quite a few more out and about.

Swordie

16-10-2005, 11:19 AM

An Adventra would probably still have more space than Holden's proposed SUV.

lowriding

16-10-2005, 01:19 PM

I'd bet that , although maybe not as now trendy as the SUV types, the Adventra is a better long term thing too. Despite it's low sales the reveiws seem generally good& most owners seem pretty happy with them.?
The S3X is not a V8 or anything interesting mechanically i'm sure either,just another suv. After the dust settles i predict the Adventra will have strongest resale than any of the Krugers,Territory's,Daewoos and the like.Infact i have no doubt about it.

who_me_?

16-10-2005, 09:01 PM

Perhaps the thread title should have been a bit better selected. A casual glance would make people think that the car is no good but it is really about product planning and so on.

I would love a VE Adventra with a turbo diesel like the X5 I had before this. My economy has been 12.5l/100kms from day one (9000kms ago) compared to the X5 at 9.3. On a country trip (always at maximum speed allowed !) I see 11.5 or so.

I wish for a larger tank and a more accurate fuel gauge ! I am used to filling every 900kms (minimum) not every 500 so with my use that means twice a week !

I am hoping for good resale as this car will probably only be with me for another 18 months...

who_me_?

17-10-2005, 11:32 AM

http://www.nextcar.com.au/n.chevrolet.S3X.concept.04sep.html

Over a year ago !!!

who_me_?

17-10-2005, 11:39 AM

The S3X is slightly shorter than a BMW X5 and has a wheelbase 120mm shorter. This thing isn't going to have a lot of room and the 3 row must be for children only ? Nope - no comparision - think of it as a grown up Hyundai Tucson and you will get the idea !!!

NickS

17-10-2005, 11:46 AM

Had there been some talk of it we would have held off for another 12 months if it meant being able to buy something slightly larger.
Don't think it will be bigger and as others have said it has been known about for a long time. There was a write up on it in Motor several months ago. I wouldn't worry about it, as long as you are happy with what you have. The new car will probably not be bigger and certainly won't have a V8.

Swordie

17-10-2005, 01:47 PM

I hired two SUVs in the U.S 2 weeks ago. A Lincoln Navigator 5.4 V8 and Land Rover Discovery 4.4 V8. They Lincoln is a luxury version of the Ford Explorer. I took the opportunity to put both vehicles through their paces.

My Holden had more room than both. On the highway both SUVs used around 13.5 litres per 100km and felt nervous taking corners at high speed. The Discovery had a higher quality finish but didn't feel much better than the Lincoln around town and on the freeway.

Holden would have to import something quite big to match the Wagon. Power wise my 3.8 felt just as strong if not better than the SUVs. Unless you have specific requirements there not worth the money. Wagons in general cost less, go harder, handle better and use less fuel. With the change left over you could purchase a secondhand V8 sedan.

With petrol prices rising in the longer term SUVs may find it harder to sustain their current market. Also the Federal government is increasing taxes on 4WDs so they are in alignment with the general car market adding to higher purchase price in the future.

GJ 2206

03-09-2006, 04:26 PM

PaulST

03-09-2006, 07:29 PM

Had there been some talk of it we would have held off for another 12 months if it meant being able to buy something slightly larger.

The Captiva is quite significantly smaller than the Adventra.

monarocv8z

03-09-2006, 07:37 PM

Question for "Who Me". I also have a fuel gauge issue with my adventra. When it gets to around 50-56 litres fuel used, the gauge drops suddenly to empty with low fuel light coming on. Do you know of any fix for this problem or is it usual?

common problem with commodores/monaros, just mention it when you go to holden service , they have a software update for it.

toyocharged

03-09-2006, 08:07 PM

I hired two SUVs in the U.S 2 weeks ago. A Lincoln Navigator 5.4 V8 and Land Rover Discovery 4.4 V8. They Lincoln is a luxury version of the Ford Explorer. I took the opportunity to put both vehicles through their paces.

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Thats like comparing apples to oranges to compare a Disco to a Adventura:doh: , one is a proper 4wd off roader and one is a soft off road vehichle at best. I will put a Disco up against a Adventura off road any day of the week. also the disco weighs close to 2400kg, that certainly doesnt help fuel economy and handling,

The Navigator weighs 2700 kg, the less said about that the better.

who_me_?

03-09-2006, 10:54 PM

Question for "Who Me". I also have a fuel gauge issue with my adventra. When it gets to around 50-56 litres fuel used, the gauge drops suddenly to empty with low fuel light coming on. Do you know of any fix for this problem or is it usual?

Yeah, standard performance. Software changed the behaviour but didn't fix it. Distance to Empty goes from 200 to 50 in about 50kms but I suppose I have just got used to it and monitor the trip reading and Litres used since last fillup which seems quite accurate. I have driven 50kms or so with the "Distance to Empty" on zero. Haven't run out yet but got quite concerned once I have got over 600kms up on a tank ! (I know I can do 600 now instead of the 500 - mentioned above - I was refuelling at before) Economy seems steady at 12.2l/100kms now after 45,000kms...

Still wishing for the impossible - a VE Adventra with a Turbo Diesel....

Febs

03-09-2006, 11:00 PM

Had there been some talk of it we would have held off for another 12 months if it meant being able to buy something slightly larger.

When I was at the last Motor Show, the staff there were pretty sure the S3X was going to be a production car, released in Australia, in the near-future.

Personally I'd rather an Adventra over a Daewoo (though to be honest, I don't like either :p).

Cheers,
- Febs.

SV805

04-09-2006, 10:14 AM

I would have thought that Y2KGoofball has probably got over this issue by now. He has had 12 months to come to terms with this issue, and he would probably realise by now the two cars are different and would not be getting any more room in the Captiva.

Y2kGoofball

04-09-2006, 06:48 PM

well I dont know what brought back an old topic ...

anyhoo since writing that (which is almost 12 months old) Holden have announced the Captiva to be their main AWD as such competitor, its still a FWD car but the RWD kicks in when it thinks it needs it which I still reckon is a bad idea, but thats my idea.

As for the Adventra as we know Holden have announced they will continue to produce them in VZ spec until they see some figures for the Captiva. If it does what they think, it a Terriroty where people think their buying a SUV/4X4 and sales take off then they'll can the Adventra. If it doesnt then they'll look at their options. Dont forget, petrols gone up something severely since then too.

As for the Adventras fuel ... 11.2 litrs per 100k's as it sits in the driveway now. Bad huh? Well considering the Adventra was grilled for using too much fuel I read Motor mag had a Terriroty for 12 months and it did somewhere around the 18ltrs/100ks mark on average which is the figures I hear from Terry owners. Funny though how the media and not the customer or daily drivers can make or break a car.

Time will tell ...

adeventralx

27-03-2007, 02:59 PM

yes this is a ongoing concern for all vz owners including myself as they use a live acting mra unit in take and gauge. latest tis software can be loaded but will not change how it acts as it is how they designed it. I did the software upgrade myself as work for holden dealer ship and made no difference my solution keep over half a tank in the adventra all ok till gets to half way between half and quarter

CharlieDontSurf

28-03-2007, 01:45 PM

What do you mean by this comment. Can the tank read incorrectly? and you can run out of fuel

adeventralx

28-03-2007, 02:53 PM

What do you mean by this comment. Can the tank read incorrectly? and you can run out of fuel

the gauge will read depending on driving style
e.g if car parked on slight incline next time car started gauge will show alot more in tank until driven

if under half a tank and vehicle is driven quite hard gauge will show fuel level acordingly to fuel usage

you will find that every vz owner will complain of this same problem and the easiest thing to do is too workout how much you can get from a tank full of juice and rely more on that than the gauge

for example i can easily do 150km with low fuel showing and zero km to empty until very low fuel comes up

ve they got rid of dist to empty as too many people think it is accurate but it has always been a crock of s--t