DBA Slotted rotors

[BLACK 346]

Just noticed that Supercheap have
DBA Slotted rotors for VR-VZ front
and rear for $110 each. They also
throw in a set of Ferodo pads with
each pair sold. Is this a good price?
Would only cost $440 to do front and
rear (plus fitting of course).

[Smitty]

Just noticed that Supercheap have
DBA Slotted rotors for VR-VZ front
and rear for $110 each. They also
throw in a set of Ferodo pads with
each pair sold. Is this a good price?
Would only cost $440 to do front and
rear (plus fitting of course).

whaaaa?
$110 per spot INCLUDING Formula Ferodo Pads ???
(gotta be those btw)
..thats cheap!

the rotors by themselves are normally $130 EACH (fronts)


hth

[BLACK 346]

whaaaa?
$110 per spot INCLUDING Formula Ferodo Pads ???
(gotta be those btw)
..thats cheap!

the rotors by themselves are normally $130 EACH (fronts)


hth

Not sure what type of Ferodo pads Smitty, just
has a picture of the box on the catalogue which
says Ferodo Performance Disk Brake Pads ZERO.
My wife actually saw them and because her and
the kids just flew out to Adelaide for a couple
of weeks said I should buy some to cheer myself
up :love2: Was just wanting some expert opinions
like yours before I leap in and waste my money.

[IIV8II]

Jeezus! I paid mates rate $115 each yesterday for AU fronts... no pads!

[12 inch man]

for that price race down there and buy them that is a great price

[BigKev]

In the catalogue they show ferodo "zero" pads, no idea if they are performance or not. Might have to head down and get some if they are, the front brakes on the old girl are looking a little sad.

[highlander_69r]

def a good price id be down there gettin them b4 they sold out :)

[VooDoo]

Dont bother with the free pads. They are the cheapies and not very good. Its well worth paying for something decent

[IIV8II]

Just checked with one of their stores: $117 each with a free set of Ferodo Zero pads with each pair

[BigKev]

Get the guy to check his own specials lol $110 loud and clear in the catalogue. They have the same ferodo zero pads going for $35 so i cant see them lasting all that long with the slotted rotors.

[IIV8II]

Yeah well that's what he said and he's an hour from here so I thought I'd check...

[dattoman1000]

Zeros = zero performance

I retail the slotted DBA040 and 041's for $120 each normally.......so a small saving for you guys anyway.

[jneil]

Zeros = zero performance

I retail the slotted DBA040 and 041's for $120 each normally.......so a small saving for you guys anyway.

Are the rotors OK, or are they sh!t, we could always get better pads if the rotors are OK.

How much would this set (all round) improve pedal feel and brakeing ability with the zero pads and with better pads?

[VooDoo]

DBA rotors are better than stock, Zero pads worse than stock.

Get some greenstuff's or similar and its a good upgrade.

[Febs]

I doubt they'd be the Formula TS2000's that everyone here likes, but regardless, that's good value. My usual brake place (http://www.discpads.com.au <-- great guys) have them for $109 usually, without the pads. You could even keep the pads as emergency spares.

DBA slotted's are a great rotor IMO. I don't like the cross-drilled because of the cracking problem a lot of cross-drilled rotors have (unless cast), but the slotted are great.

To give you an idea - the single piston setup on my VS V6 has slotted DBAs with Bendix Ultimates, and it stops a SHITLOAD better than the twin piston brakes on my LS1 with standard discs/pads. I've got Formula TS2000's and better fluid to go in the LS1...but at the moment, the VS brakes much better (partly due to pads, partly due to the rotor). Might have to pickup a set of these DBAs too. :)

Cheers,
- Febs.

[smoken2]

Hi,
The Holden Spares guys did some mates rates on VZ front sloted rotors for $105 each.
I brought some VX front police brake pads (grey backing plates) $90 and combined with the DBA rotors they did an average job.
Far better that the original, below average brake setup.
Cheers.

[bobbyvtls1]

good thing is it is an easy install aswell

[dattoman1000]

Hi,
The Holden Spares guys did some mates rates on VZ front sloted rotors for $105 each.
I brought some VX front police brake pads (grey backing plates) $90 and combined with the DBA rotors they did an average job.
Far better that the original, below average brake setup.
Cheers.

I put those grey backed pads on my commodore too
They work pretty good in my opinion
Bit harsh on the disc but you get that

Infact. They grey pads are identical to the ones PBR are now selling as their Performance pads.

[GTS215i]

I had a look this morning at super cheap and they 'looked' pretty good, but would they be any better than the standard stock 330mm disk i have on mine??, because the DBA disc size doesn't seem as big as mine but then again my stock ones aren't slotted?

[BLACK 346]

I had a look this morning at super cheap and they 'looked' pretty good, but would they be any better than the standard stock 330mm disk i have on mine??, because the DBA disc size doesn't seem as big as mine but then again my stock ones aren't slotted?

Pretty sure they are 290mm disks, not the bigger
330mm that are on the GTS.

[2 cylinders shy]

I was thinking with ve just around the corner, and pbr 330mm brakes on the executive, it might be worthwhile waiting to see if they can be retrofited?

Well that was the conclusion I came to.

Something has to be done about the brakes though.

[GTS215i]

Pretty sure they are 290mm disks, not the bigger
330mm that are on the GTS.

ok so if the DBA are only 290mm but being slotted would they offer any better performance or should i stick to my stock 330mm?
cheers

[BLACK 346]

ok so if the DBA are only 290mm but being slotted would they offer any better performance or should i stick to my stock 330mm?
cheers

I wouldn't go back in size, go for 330mm slotted
rotors if they need replacing.

[dattoman1000]

Stick with your 330's
Its a fair job to change back to smaller brakes and really. Why would you ?

VE is a different platform and none of the previous model brakes will fit it
Different offsets

[Ryzz]

ok so if the DBA are only 290mm but being slotted would they offer any better performance or should i stick to my stock 330mm?
cheersMate, i remember when i priced up a replacement rotors for my GTS i was looking at $400 EACH ROTOR from DBA. Unless something has changed, id start saving!!! Besides you dont want to go down in size mate!!

[dattoman1000]

$300 each nowdays

[Ryzz]

$300 each nowdays
How long ago did that happen, was only 6-12 months ago i was looking

[vkdirector]

If your not in a hurry hang around till they drop the pads, i paid $99 for them just before christmas and put a set of the new bendix heavy duty replaced by the (ultimates) the combo is awsome and the price is right!

[macca33]

They've had the slotted DBA rotors at around $100 - 110 for a while now.

There's been a set at my local store for around 3 months now at $110 per disc, they haven't moved at all.

I was gonna get 'em, but ran into a good deal on HSV Performance package.

Because it's supercheap, they've probably been overlooked by many as we don't expect to find them there.

If you wait for a 20 - 30% off day - they have plenty, you'll save a bucket load too.

Regards,
Macca

[BLACK 346]

They've had the slotted DBA rotors at around $100 - 110 for a while now.

There's been a set at my local store for around 3 months now at $110 per disc, they haven't moved at all.

I was gonna get 'em, but ran into a good deal on HSV Performance package.

Because it's supercheap, they've probably been overlooked by many as we don't expect to find them there.

If you wait for a 20 - 30% off day - they have plenty, you'll save a bucket load too.

Regards,
Macca

I would have thought the Senator Signature would
have come with some serious brakes as standard,
obviously not.

[Tonner]

I would like to add my bit on the DBA 4040 ($100) rotors. as I have had two full sets of these.
DBA market them as 'suitable for heavy loads and towing'
'
Dont get me wrong they are a fantasic improvment over the standard rotors,given the kangaroo paw column design.
but you really need to use good DB-1331FF Ferodo pads or something like EBC greenstuff's
The downsides, IMO, are dont get them wet when they are fairly hot, and DONT use the Bendix ultimate pads of you are intending to put these to work over and above normal driving.
After constant machining to remove runout from getting wet while hot .they didn't last so long.

I now use the DBA 4000 XS TSP (thermal stability profiled)
at double the cost, if these dont work out for me I will then try the DBA 4000 6x6 these are the only rotor made by DBA, to my knowlege, in the stock diameter that are really meant for occasional track use.
Here is a link to a pic of the 4040's with Ultimate pads after 3 weeks http://www.oz8.org/gallery/Tonner/TONNER_BRAKES_003

Cheers Tonner

[BLACK 346]

Thanks for that Tonner, and all who replied.
I will save my money for something better.
My original plan was to save a little longer
and get the PBR PK1 Upgrade, but have since
seen someone post in another thread that
he didn't feel 2k worth of value in these,
so not real sure about that course of action
now. Anyone actually had this kit for a while
and care to comment on it?

[Tonner]

Here is there website.http://www.dba.com.au/dba_catalogue_2004/HTML/4000series/4000_index.htm

AND the PBR site.http://www.pbrperformance.com.au/
also Harrop have some great alternatives for the cost also I think

[macca33]

I would have thought the Senator Signature would
have come with some serious brakes as standard,
obviously not.

I would have too mate, but no, they only came with the standard VX brake system with the standard 17" Senator wheel package.

You could option up 18" wheels (WH Grange type) with performance suspension and brakes, or a sunroof with 18"s and brakes, as option packs with the HSV Performance brake package.

Yep, for $76,000 +orc for the Senator new, they were a tad skint on the brakes.

Luckily I paid FAR less than half of that when I bought it.

PS Black 346, there are a few of these HSV Performance systems going on ebay ALL the time. Might be worth a look.

PPS the PBR kit is the same spec as the HSV brakes as far as calipers go, I think the rotors are different though.

Cheers,
Macca

[BLACK 346]

I would have too mate, but no, they only came with the standard VX brake system with the standard 17" Senator wheel package.

You could option up 18" wheels (WH Grange type) with performance suspension and brakes, or a sunroof with 18"s and brakes, as option packs with the HSV Performance brake package.

Yep, for $76,000 +orc for the Senator new, they were a tad skint on the brakes.

Luckily I paid FAR less than half of that when I bought it.

PS Black 346, there are a few of these HSV Performance systems going on ebay ALL the time. Might be worth a look.

PPS the PBR kit is the same spec as the HSV brakes as far as calipers go, I think the rotors are different though.

Cheers,
Macca

Thanks Macca, will keep an eye out.
btw: What colour is your car, looks really
nice in your avatar.

[dattoman1000]

I would like to add my bit on the DBA 4040 ($100) rotors. as I have had two full sets of these.
DBA market them as 'suitable for heavy loads and towing'
http://www.oz8.org/gallery/Tonner/TONNER_BRAKES_003

Cheers Tonner

They are DBA040 not DBA4040
Slight error
DBA4040 are $200 each as you said (double the price)

[Febs]

DONT use the Bendix ultimate pads of you are intending to put these to work over and above normal driving.

Ultimates stop INCREDIBLY well...BUT - you'll be replacing/machining rotors far more often than you'll be replacing pads. :)

I've got them on my VS and the performance is fantastic. Having warped rotors after 5,000km however, isn't.

but have since seen someone post in another thread that he didn't feel 2k worth of value in these

That'd be me.
Don't get me wrong - they're a good kit and look tough too, but I just don't find them "$2,000 better" for day to day driving.

Put it this way:
Front DBA slotteds (stock size) + Ferodo TS2000/Greenstuff/Ultimate pads = ~$350 upgrade, and well worth every penny.

But to then compare that with the PBR PK1 kit, I don't see ANOTHER $1,700 worth of performance. Personally if I had the money (and big enough wheels!) I'd get one of the 4 piston options out there...even if they are $3k+.

Cheers,
- Febs.

[BLACK 346]

Thanks for the input Febs :)

[macca33]

They are DBA040 not DBA4040
Slight error
DBA4040 are $200 each as you said (double the price)


Cheers mate thanks.

Shanghai Mica out of the 2001 HSV options list.

Regards,

Macca

[macca33]

Cheers mate thanks.

Shanghai Mica out of the 2001 HSV options list.

Regards,

Macca


Ummm, oops, put Dattoman's quote in and not Black 346s. Computer literacy is a challenge for me.

Macca

[Tonner]

Ghee dam, why is it that some things are just so dam predictable,:(
I have bed the new rotors (DBA 4040 xs) the TSP ones,,, and FF pads in well and truely.
But this combo doesn't seem so good for cold braking, by that I am talking about just hitting the brakes as you need them on a long trip,
they take too long to get the heat into them.
Maybe the ultimates are the go for these.

Any one else find this?
I will keep the pads in a while longer and see how they go first.
Cheers Tonner

[Smitty]

Ghee dam, why is it that some things are just so dam predictable,:(
I have bed the new rotors (DBA 4040 xs) the TSP ones,,, and FF pads in well and truely.
But this combo doesn't seem so good for cold braking, by that I am talking about just hitting the brakes as you need them on a long trip,
they take too long to get the heat into them.
Maybe the ultimates are the go for these.

Any one else find this?
I will keep the pads in a while longer and see how they go first.
Cheers Tonner

I have slotted/xdrilled DBAS with Formula Ferodo pads
on the SS
I don't have that problem....
they do that until properly bedded in
but then..great cold or hot....

btw
did you bleed the system when the pads went in??

cheers

[Tonner]

I have slotted/xdrilled DBAS with Formula Ferodo pads
on the SS
I don't have that problem....
they do that until properly bedded in
but then..great cold or hot....

btw
did you bleed the system when the pads went in??

cheers
No I just removed a splash of fluid and compressed the calipers as I always do .. I had a fluid change a while ago c/w pressure bleed, so all should be cool.

Smitty I know you know your stuff, no doubt, but are your Rotors the TSP ( hi tensile I have nicknamed them )??

BTW I wont take anything away from the braking capabilities of the std DBA slotted rotors and FF pads, they are the best so far ,IMO just the bad memory of the material in hot cold stress situations ,as I have said earlier

[calais-346]

Id steer clear of the ultimate pads unless doin track work,I found they need a bit of heat in them too work well and they are extremly hard on rotors,I put a set on with a new set of slotted rotors and the discs were shagged before the pads....lots of little cracks from the excessive heat.So i replaced rotors again and put on a set of lucas pads(recommened to me)and never had problems again.But the ultimates stopping power when hot at 150+klms were better they just never faded away.DBA slotted rotors are much better then the stock ones,most stock VT on cars have a little brake shudder due to warped rotors

[Tonner]

Id steer clear of the ultimate pads unless doin track work,I found they need a bit of heat in them too work well and they are extremly hard on rotors
hard on rotors huh,http://www.oz8.org/gallery/Tonner/TONNER_BRAKES_003 yep I agree.

[2 cylinders shy]

Stick with your 330's
Its a fair job to change back to smaller brakes and really. Why would you ?

VE is a different platform and none of the previous model brakes will fit it
Different offsets

Sorry, what I was trying to say was.

In the current motor mag they have said that the VE even in the executive spec will have pbr 330mm brakes.

It is my (limited) understanding that vt-vz holdens all (except VZ monaro & SSZ) have 298ishmm brakes.

So i was asking if you would be able to retrofit the VE brakes onto a VT-VY? Similar to puting VT brakes on a VS

[2 cylinders shy]

I have also read in another thread http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=49105&highlight=l76on this forum that the O6 SS's will all have the SSZ spec brakes. It just seems that we may soon see a lot of near new brakes up for sale, so it maybe worthwile holding of on a brake upgrade at the moment?

[IIV8II]

Sorry, what I was trying to say was.

In the current motor mag they have said that the VE even in the executive spec will have pbr 330mm brakes.

It is my (limited) understanding that vt-vz holdens all (except VZ monaro & SSZ) have 298ishmm brakes.

So i was asking if you would be able to retrofit the VE brakes onto a VT-VY? Similar to puting VT brakes on a VS


Dunno yet - the car isn't even on sale, so I doubt if anyone has managed to pull the brakes off one and ask "What if...?"

SSZ brakes on 06 cars - that might mean cheaper disc/rotors from Holden Spares for upgrades to earlier cars

[2 cylinders shy]

IIV8II you are right. I was looking at a brake upgrade but now I will wait and see if these "what...if" eventuate.
It may save me money it may not but i think it is worth waiting.

[Tonner]

I have slotted/xdrilled DBAS with Formula Ferodo pads
on the SS
I don't have that problem....
they do that until properly bedded in
but then..great cold or hot....

btw
did you bleed the system when the pads went in??

cheers
Yeh after another 300k trip, something is not right , I will take your advice and have them bled.

[dattoman1000]

Sorry, what I was trying to say was.

In the current motor mag they have said that the VE even in the executive spec will have pbr 330mm brakes.

It is my (limited) understanding that vt-vz holdens all (except VZ monaro & SSZ) have 298ishmm brakes.

So i was asking if you would be able to retrofit the VE brakes onto a VT-VY? Similar to puting VT brakes on a VS

According to my sources (DBA Engineers) the offsets are different and retrofit won't be possible
But till the cars in the marketplace and we do some measuring we won't know

Coupe4 , Cross8 runs shallow offset brakes..... maybe this is an indication of the new setups (yes I know the 4wd front setup is different)