Going, Going, Gone – Very Last Monaro Up For Sale

[HRT433]

The last current generation Monaro coupe built by Holden will be offered for auction this month.
The coupe has been painted with a custom color and modified by Holden’s Design and
Engineering departments to reflect its iconic place in Australian automotive history.
It will be auctioned globally through eBay.com.au from February 9 – 19 with all proceeds donated
to The Leukaemia Foundation, a long-term partner of Holden.
The vehicle will be unveiled by Holden at the Melbourne International Motor Show media day on
February 9 before the auction begins.
The sale of the car will mark the end of Monaro domestic production in Elizabeth, South Australia
after more than four years and 47,000 sales in Australia and overseas representing four General
Motors brands.
The last Monaro was built on December 13 last year and customized by Holden Design and
Engineering to cement its position as an automotive collector’s classic.
The “Torque” custom paint is an orange-yellow with fine metallic highlight, developed as an
interpretation of the classic colors for which the original late 1960s Monaro coupes were famous.
A Very Last Monaro project team made various changes to reflect the car’s unique status including
special embossed wheels, leather seats and color accents.
The architect of the new generation Monaro, former Holden Design Director Mike Simcoe, was
recognised through the use of Data Dot technology which applied microscopic copies of Simcoe’s
signature and the ISOVIN number to the vehicle’s underbody, panels and major components.
GM Holden Chairman and Managing Director, Denny Mooney, today said the car was a fitting end
to the latest chapter of the Monaro story.
Mr Mooney said Monaro symbolised Holden’s heritage in Australia, providing a nameplate which
inspired passion and respect across the car community.
Monaro was unveiled by Holden as a concept vehicle in 1998 and launched as a production
vehicle in late 2001. It was Australia’s best selling sports car for each of the past four years.
Vehicles based on the Monaro were subsequently sold in the United States as the Pontiac GTO,
United Kingdom as the Vauxhall Monaro and the Middle East as the Chevrolet Lumina Coupe.
Holden Special Vehicles also released several variants.
“Monaro is symbolic of our success locally by showcasing Holden’s strength in innovation and
design,” Mr Mooney said.
“It symbolises our commitment to philanthropy and we are extremely proud to be donating all
proceeds to the Leukaemia Foundation with which we have a long association.”


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[theVman]

hmmm . . intereting, I thought they may have picked a better colour, added some nice wheels or something.

Let the last one go witha bit of a bang.

Will be interested to see what it ends up going for.

[Goggles]

interesting colour....looks like a twistie to me :)

[AID-222]

looks alright :driving:

[ATTNSEEKR]

bit of a piss poor effort i would have thought, could of least put some 19's on it and atleast a premuim brake package...

[zacz]

:moon:

sorry guys, I dont like the paint colour!

[monarocv8z]

I like the colour. It'll be bought by someone like lindsay fox who will add it to his car collection...It'll be interesting to see what money it goes for.

[korrupt]

I like the Monaro logo etched into the wheels. Wouldn't mind a set of those...

[Angeldust]

i really wonder what it will auction for.. any early guesses?

70K, 80K, 90K , 100 K ??? doubt it would go over the 100K mark but u never know.....

[XLR8 V8]

Definitely should have made it something a little more special than a different paint colour, logo on wheels, and Simcoe's signature on the datadots that noone will see without a microscope.
An engine upgrade, unique interior, unique exterior badging, a wall plaque for the owner with a photo of it sitting next to an old school monaro and/or the design team and "Last of it's kind" or something similar would have been more appropriate.

[SteveK]

I like the Monaro logo etched into the wheels. Wouldn't mind a set of those...

Same here.

And for some reason I feel like opening a packet of Cheezels.

Steve.

[chops]

I hope the purchaser does not lock it away, but displays it somewhere such as the National Motor Museum.

Being for charity, I'd suggest it will go for quite a bit.

[Tre-Cool]

pffft. What a waste of fnk time it was loading those pics.

looks like a standard monaro to me.

actually on second thoughts, it looks like a monaro destined for Taxi duty.

[BigFella]

Boooooooring! id hate to see wat it sells for......yes its a one off yay i suppose some colletor with wads of cash will buy it and lock it up...

[Muzzak]

Wheels don't look machine finished like on the CV8Z - which was a big plus. These look like the standard VZ ones with the extra embossing of Monaro . So to me at least, the CV8Z looks slightly better off the shop floor.

I reckon it will go for ~AU$120k to some fat cat in USA. Place your bets.

Muz

[Avalanche]

It will sit there like all the really popular 15th anniversasry maloo R8 s. Paint it a different colour add one option & call it a limited edition. Surely they can come up with something to send it off with a bang not a quiet little fart in the corner. That paint colour will be available on others soon , just like devil yellow is now available on ss utes. And now the ssz has bigger brakes leather and the pod gauges, Makes the 15th anniversary look very ordinary to me, along with that very last monaro. Very dissapointing.

[smoke]

:sleep: What a wasted effort!!!! :sleep:

[AntonGTS]

So this is not a CV8Z, just a normal Monaro.
So what was the CV8Z'? The second last monaros ever built?

[korrupt]

It has the CV8Z black bonnet scoops though.

[zacz]

So this is not a CV8Z, just a normal Monaro.
So what was the CV8Z'? The second last monaros ever built?

yep!!! All 1599 of them were the second last!

By the way, it doesnt appear to have a sunroof either like CV8Z!

[Ryzz]

They should of put a black stripe down the middle of the car like the old school monaros!

[Carby650]

sorry guys (and Holden I hope you are paying attention) but to me it looks like a very half assed effort. It should've been given everything possible and maybe even 285Kw like the last LS1 Clubbies. Colour would look ok with some HG style black stripes though.

[zacz]

They should of put a black stripe down the middle of the car like the old school monaros!

Im with you RYZZ........the appearance needs something more to make it really special! By the way, does it look like the headlights inserts are darker than the CV8Z?

Here's what i would've done if I was on the "LAST MONARO PROJECT TEAM":

MECHANICAL
- 6.0L LS1 Engine

EXTERIOR
- Chromaflair paint work which looks a different colour depending on the angle youre looking at it from. I wouldve selected a Fusion-based colour that goes from fusion orange to a wine red
- Black or Silver Stripes along the bonnet, roof and boot (as per GTO LE)
- Polished Alloy Wheels (with the Monaro embossing)
- Unique Number Plates
- GTO Tail Lamps

Just some thought starters.........

What would you have done if you had free reign to create the LAST Monaro??

[Muzzak]

What would you have done if you had free reign to create the LAST Monaro??

Built 1200....all the same.

Muz

[marcu5]

Heh, ol matey on the local radio was sprouting info that it has a special v8 in it....

[Muzzak]

Heh, ol matey on the local radio was sprouting info that it has a special v8 in it....

It is special. It's an LS1.

Muz

[HSVQUE]

it should of had a 6.2 ltr, 20's from amercia, a custom trim, and some crazy one off paint. if it had all that would be worth 100+ easy.

Rob

[6.0]

Makes me laugh all this business about the last Monaro when they are still building HSV coupes!!

[Hammer]

looks like all the other monaro's just with the cv8-z wheels ???

[Groucho]

That's tragic how Holden didn't make this car something special-- a celebration of the incredilble V-Cars.

I blame the bean counters. You guys get the torches & pitchfoks-- I'll get the rope!

[Holden]

Some of you might be missing the point here. This project wasn't about creating the same sort of "couldn't possibly be from the same family as the standard one" modded car which dominates this forum. It was about recognising the end of the production run by building a one-off vehicle which no-one could dispute in 50 years time that it was the very last one. It's a CV8Z with some tasteful love and attention from our designers and engineers to ensure its place in history is recognised.

Of course we could have slapped a 7.0L in it, stuck on 22" chromes, slammed it and body kitted it ... and made an unwarrantied car which was nothing like the brothers it claimed to represent. We weren't trying to create a street machine monster, we wanted to celebrate a reincarnation of Monaro which has been pretty special for us as a company and do something selfless with it in the process.

[Hammer]

doesnt look any differnt to a standard cv8z... ? so whats differnt between them holden ?

[Holden]

Based on the CV8Z -

Exterior colour in Torque painted in house by the Holden Design Fabrication team.
Unique Monaro machine embossed 18" wheels
Gun metal chrome badging.
Exclusive made black leather trim seats have unique Torque coloured perforation inserts and feature stitching
Torque colour accents on the dials, new Monaro embroidery on the floor mats and feature stitching on the leather trimmed door, rear quarter and centre armrests, steering wheel, shifter and handbrake.
Dashboard badge engraved with Mike Simcoe signature
Unique tag number on vehicle.
Data dot technology applied with Mike Simcoe's signature and the ISOVIN in every dot.


The Leukaemia Foundation will receive all the proceeds from the auction. They're a long-time partner of ours.

[Goggles]

Some of you might be missing the point here. This project wasn't about creating the same sort of "couldn't possibly be from the same family as the standard one" modded car which dominates this forum. It was about recognising the end of the production run by building a one-off vehicle which no-one could dispute in 50 years time that it was the very last one. It's a CV8Z with some tasteful love and attention from our designers and engineers to ensure its place in history is recognised.

I totally agree with you about this....I am happy with my stock standard VYII SS and will be totally happy with my stock standard MY06 VZ SS.

let me be the first to congratulate all at Holden for firstly developing the Concept Coupe, and then bringing the Monaro to production - it is this passion and ability to do things "outside" the box which makes me proud to own a Holden....I don't see the other company even getting close to doing these sorts of things.


Of course we could have slapped a 7.0L in it, stuck on 22" chromes, slammed it and body kitted it ... and made an unwarrantied car which was nothing like the brothers it claimed to represent. We weren't trying to create a street machine monster, we wanted to celebrate a reincarnation of Monaro which has been pretty special for us as a company and do something selfless with it in the process.

you could always do that with a VE based car for the AIMS at Darling Harbour this year :)

[YLD57L]

I'll have to say Holden summed it up perfectly.

Leave the street machines to HSV... fingers are crossed for the LS7. :stick:

[The Nurse]

Some of you might be missing the point here. This project wasn't about creating the same sort of "couldn't possibly be from the same family as the standard one" modded car which dominates this forum. It was about recognising the end of the production run by building a one-off vehicle which no-one could dispute in 50 years time that it was the very last one. It's a CV8Z with some tasteful love and attention from our designers and engineers to ensure its place in history is recognised.

Of course we could have slapped a 7.0L in it, stuck on 22" chromes, slammed it and body kitted it ... and made an unwarrantied car which was nothing like the brothers it claimed to represent. We weren't trying to create a street machine monster, we wanted to celebrate a reincarnation of Monaro which has been pretty special for us as a company and do something selfless with it in the process.

I think what has been done has certainly summed up the Monaro in an appropriate way, tasteful and classy. Well done!

[Carby650]

Some of you might be missing the point here. This project wasn't about creating the same sort of "couldn't possibly be from the same family as the standard one" modded car which dominates this forum. It was about recognising the end of the production run by building a one-off vehicle which no-one could dispute in 50 years time that it was the very last one. It's a CV8Z with some tasteful love and attention from our designers and engineers to ensure its place in history is recognised.

Of course we could have slapped a 7.0L in it, stuck on 22" chromes, slammed it and body kitted it ... and made an unwarrantied car which was nothing like the brothers it claimed to represent. We weren't trying to create a street machine monster, we wanted to celebrate a reincarnation of Monaro which has been pretty special for us as a company and do something selfless with it in the process.
Holden I think you where missing my point. Whilst the car has some very subtle differences. (besides the paint) I just think that by giving it say the 285Kw Ls1 it would've made it more collectable and just given it something extra special. Making it into some sort of street machine is not my point and would make the car somewhat less collectable in my view. Still reacon putting HG Monaro black stripes would look very neat with that colour.
As the owner of a very original and stock 253 HT GTS Monaro I appreciate the history of these cars. Cheers and thanks

[IIV8II]

Holden I think you where missing my point. Whilst the car has some very subtle differences. (besides the paint) I just think that by giving it say the 285Kw Ls1 it would've made it more collectable and just given it something extra special. Making it into some sort of street machine is not my point and would make the car somewhat less collectable in my view. Still reacon putting HG Monaro black stripes would look very neat with that colour.
As the owner of a very original and stock 253 HT GTS Monaro I appreciate the history of these cars. Cheers and thanks

285kW engine? It's a Holden, not an HSV. And the 285kW LS1 engine was discontinued more than 18 months ago...


Holden - top shit. This car marks the end of an era very well. I wish you'd made two, so I could drive one before it could be displayed forever in Birdswood, Powerhouse or National Museum.
Proceeds to charity - excellent.

Whingers - build yer own.

[Carby650]

Whingers - build yer own.

Whinger. NO. I love Holdens but that doesn't say that they will always get it right or that I have to agree with everything that they produce. Constructive criticism is not whinging. Have a look at the cars I own. Both Holdens and both stock. Because I wanna keep my cars stock as they came from the factory. Hence why if I was Holden I would've put a slightly more powerful motor in it but still the Ls1. Remember the 350 Chev motor was in both the old and new versions of the Monaro. I just would've given it a more powerful LS1 then the others. Gotta say I thought that this forum was was about discussion and honest and open debate but you must think differently.

[IIV8II]

Whinger. NO. I love Holdens but that doesn't say that they will always get it right or that I have to agree with everything that they produce. Constructive criticism is not whinging. Have a look at the cars I own. Both Holdens and both stock. Because I wanna keep my cars stock as they came from the factory. Hence why if I was Holden I would've put a slightly more powerful motor in it but still the Ls1. Remember the 350 Chev motor was in both the old and new versions of the Monaro. I just would've given it a more powerful LS1 then the others. Gotta say I thought that this forum was was about discussion and honest and open debate but you must think differently.
lol... No - I think the same. I just don't like whingers hiding behind the 'constructive criticism' badge, especially ones that don't look at the 'big picture'. There is no 'more powerful' engine for Holden to install. 260kW is it. :)

[Carby650]

lol... No - I think the same. I just don't like whingers hiding behind the 'constructive criticism' badge, especially ones that don't look at the 'big picture'. There is no 'more powerful' engine for Holden to install. 260kW is it. :)

Remember these motors all come from the same factory. HSV did come out with a LS1 with 250 Kw (VX I think) and now Holden are producing 250Kw (VZ) so there is nothing to say they couldn't do it. Anyhow just my opinion. IIV8II, cheers for pressing my buttons this morning! :lol: Needed a rev up ! Now to take to kids to school. Cheers

[Haze_V8]

Not keen on the colour but love the idea of a one off last build and the charity auction. Well done Holden, this is a very appropriate way to lay the V2/Z to rest.

Lets hope the auction gets some real big dollars. I will put in my guess of a final sale value of $140k.

Also remember that this is not the last Monaro ever.... it will be revived sometime on a new platform (VE or otherwise).

[Dacious]

Actually, IMO, YMMV, what they should have done is gone the other way - build a replica of the Concept Coupe. Unless I'm mistaken the showcar was a non-runner.

Being the owner of a replica of that vehicle, but with the CV8Z engine, brakes etc would have been cool.

But anyway, while not a fan of the scoops and revised -Z bodywork, the car is cool. It will be a collector's item because it is indisputably the last Holden Monaro.

HSV Coupes are something else, which have never been called Monaro - I bet they are all fiinished and stockpiled, too.

[Holden]

Dacious - Nice idea about the concept coupe but I have to tell you it's definitely a driver ... some of us have even had the privilege.

[Carby650]

One thing I have failed to do is congratulate Holden for donating the $$$$'s to charity. Well done guys you could've easily kept the money for yourselves. Its funny how passionate we can get about the Monaro. It is a true Austalian icon and we have all had our opinions (some might say whinge hehe !) on how the last one should be but I must say thankyou for ride. I hope that in 10-15 years time my son or daughter will be driving around in a CV8 classic like I am with my HT.

[6.0]

It will be a collector's item because it is indisputably the last Holden Monaro.

HSV Coupes are something else, which have never been called Monaro - I bet they are all fiinished and stockpiled, too.[/QUOTE]

I bet the general public thinks that Holden Monaros and HSV Coupes are the same. Before a mate bought a HSV GTO I thought they were all Monaros.

There will be plenty of fanfare for the last Monaro, but in six months time there will be plenty of confused people in Holden dealerships when they see there are new HSV Coupes on offer.

[SteveK]

we wanted to celebrate a reincarnation of Monaro which has been pretty special for us as a company...
Then Holden should have kept it special and left it on the production line. Sure, it's not a best seller like an exec but it's a shame to let it go. It would have been good to have it continue and use it as a hot bed for new technology before it is passed down to the mass market models. Sure, we have HSV for that but we're talking coupe here, not sedans.

It's sad to see it go, it should live on as something special. That shape, those lines, still special after all these years.

Steve.

[Ryzz]

Then Holden should have kept it special and left it on the production line. Sure, it's not a best seller like an exec but it's a shame to let it go. It would have been good to have it continue and use it as a hot bed for new technology before it is passed down to the mass market models. Sure, we have HSV for that but we're talking coupe here, not sedans.

It's sad to see it go, it should live on as something special. That shape, those lines, still special after all these years.

Steve.
Lets just hope that the VE brings with it a worthy coupe replacement!!!

[The Nurse]

Dacious - Nice idea about the concept coupe but I have to tell you it's definitely a driver ... some of us have even had the privilege.

there were comments in Motor about when they drove all the concepts like the 427, SSX, Marilyn and the Coupe concept was that the build quality was astounding and that it could have easily been passed as a production vehicle

[Angeldust]

in the paper today a small article on the auction stated the reserve is $100K.. is this true?

[zacz]

in the paper today a small article on the auction stated the reserve is $100K.. is this true?

Yeh I read that also! A Reserve of $100k seems quite high!

My tip is it will end up selling for $200k+ because it is a one-off! Whatever happens, hats off to Holden for donating the proceeds to charity! :dance:

[Ghosn]

Can I get my VZ painted that color too?

[plonkerchops]

whatever it goes for lets just hope that it stays in Australia

[zacz]

I reckon Holden should throw in the glass cage from the CV8Z ad as well......

:teach:

Wonder if they are available for sale anyway?

[Pulse 8]

Hey Ryzz- I wouldnt hold your breath waiting for a new Monaro on VE platform. I dont believe there will ever be another Monaro built in Australia again. Remember that it was pure determination and a lot of luck and support from GM personel that pulled this one off. The project was driven by passion.
Unfortunately the sales were never going to be able to make this project viable over the long haul in a country with our small population.
If we do get another coupe, I believe it will be something imported from overseas and rebadged here.This would never be recognized as a true Monaro if its not Oz built.
Congratulations to Holden on the final car and the charity involved. I think the car is a fitting way to bring the curtain down on a wonderful period in Australian motoring history.
But most of all I thank Mike Simcoe and his team for bringing us the greatest motor car this country has seen and I for one am glad he is recognized forever with the final car.
To those fellow Monaro cruisers out there, enjoy the experience as we too are part of this special period. RIP Monaro 2001-2005
Happy Cruzin.

[vysandman]

Some of you might be missing the point here. This project wasn't about creating the same sort of "couldn't possibly be from the same family as the standard one" modded car which dominates this forum. It was about recognising the end of the production run by building a one-off vehicle which no-one could dispute in 50 years time that it was the very last one. It's a CV8Z with some tasteful love and attention from our designers and engineers to ensure its place in history is recognised.

Of course we could have slapped a 7.0L in it, stuck on 22" chromes, slammed it and body kitted it ... and made an unwarrantied car which was nothing like the brothers it claimed to represent. We weren't trying to create a street machine monster, we wanted to celebrate a reincarnation of Monaro which has been pretty special for us as a company and do something selfless with it in the process.

I agree, it's not meant to be a street machine, it's the last Monaro with a few highlights to make it that bit special. It does look better without the sunroof though and thank God they didn't option a spoiler. The only thing I think is, that is how the FIRST Monaro should have looked (not a 2 door commodore) and it should have progressed from there. If they gave it special paint, they probably should have given it some stripes.
I wonder how many existing commodores, monaros and rodeos we'll see in Street Machine and Street Commodores in that colour now ?

[vysandman]

I wonder if HSV have anything planned for the last Coupe ? If they do it will be standard on the next model sedan !:rolleyes:
With the demise of the Monaro do you think the next SS might be tarted up a bit, bonnet scoops anyone ?

[LSX-438]

I wonder if HSV have anything planned for the last Coupe ?

apparently they do..

[chops]

You heard any more Duncan, or is it just a waiting game?

[LSX-438]

You heard any more Duncan, or is it just a waiting game?

the engine designation apparently includes the letters L, S and the number 7

[YLD57L]

I AM holding my breath for this one. And if HSV don't deliver the engine LS7, they will be responsible for my death. :shiner:

[Dacious]

The only thing I think is, that is how the FIRST Monaro should have looked (not a 2 door commodore) and it should have progressed from there. If they gave it special paint, they probably should have given it some stripes.


Just goes to show, opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one. I deliberately got an SIII to avoid the VZ changes, particularly the relocated tank and smaller boot. If it had come out that way, I don't know if I'd've still got it or not. Not everyone thinks the scoops and bluff front and rear are an improvement, although I'd like the brakes and engine/exhaust mods.

[vysandman]

Just goes to show, opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one. I deliberately got an SIII to avoid the VZ changes, particularly the relocated tank and smaller boot. If it had come out that way, I don't know if I'd've still got it or not. Not everyone thinks the scoops and bluff front and rear are an improvement, although I'd like the brakes and engine/exhaust mods.

Yeah I partly agree although everyone I have spoken to recently thinks the Z series with the scoops etc looks hot and how the Monaro should have looked from the start.The only thing that turns some people off the Z is the sunroof, they say it spoils the roof lines ! It's like comparing the HK Monaro coupe to the HK Monaro GTS, the GTS looks the goods (leaving engines aside). The first series Monaros are like the Monaro Coupe and the Z series is along the lines of the old GTS. The relocated tank/smaller boot issues are a pain but are acceptable considering most buyers have a second car or they don't have kids or their kids have grown up.
When they re-introduced the Monaro they didn't have to re-invent the wheel, they already had a successful formula to work from. By the time they started giving people what they wanted (the U.S. included) they dropped them. I'm sure they would have sold more if they gave it the bigger engine and made it resemble the previus musclecar image from the start. They may have lost a few conservative buyers but would have gained quite a few more new ones. People will probably howl me down and say that is what the HSV GTO/GTS is. Well, the HSV Coupes look soft and those spoiler kits ? Monaros shouldn't have spoilers, the rear is to short for a spoiler. The only good thing about the HSV Coupes are the brakes and engines, they've ruined the look of the car.
Like you said "opinions are like arseholes". ........I've got BOTH:)

[Dacious]

But the people who bought the car, like me, looked at the Concept. We wanted that and got what we asked for. The Monaro buyer profile is late 30's-50's, 80% male, DINKs or kids grown up. We're old and boring farts and don't want tack on bits and go-fast graphics. Probably 4 in 5 Monaros have no spoiler - I wouldn't take one if you paid me. I bet a lot of VZs got sold to younger guys than S1-S3, building on the hype of 'it's the last one'. It's probably also why the HSV Coupes don't have more steet cred and don't seem to hold value like the Monaro does.

If the GTO had never happened, neither would the hoodscoops or for that matter the VZ Monaro itself. Take away the VZ, and 2004 sales would have struggled to hit 2,000. Too few cars to keep as a model. As a Monaro consumed more resources to build than a 4-door, they probbly made less on each one, even @$60K. As GM were paying for the changes and Holden building the cars, they managed to build on the hype and make a bit more out of them, but they'd never have spent the money themselves.

IMO the VZ visual changes don't add anything, although they also don't destroy the lines. Less is more. Bloody Mazdas have split pipes with grenade launchers on them so there ain't nothing special there. Holden has the SS for the 'factory hotrod look' and it's less $$$ and suits younger males who may have young families and need 4 doors and the space.

Bigger motor? in '02/03 the LS1/LS6 was the biggest GM alloy motor @ 5.7L and the most powerful. LS2 arrived in 2004. The GTO only got it because sales were of the first LS1-powered model were languishing in the US - if the '04 had been a hit, it'd have LS1s today. The only bigger motors GM had then were iron truck engines which are tuned for less hp and more low-end.

[vysandman]

[QUOTE=Dacious]But the people who bought the car, like me, looked at the Concept. We wanted that and got what we asked for.

Yes true but would be Monaro buyers would have taken anything at the time because they just wanted a Monaro of any type. I'm sure a lot of buyers who bought the first series would still have bought it if it looked like the Z.
I was talking to some people from Holden/HSV before the Monaro went into production and they were sceptical about it's longevity because they knew once the "older" diehards who wanted "another" Monaro had bought one, the market was limited, especially at the price it wasn't aimed at a younger market. Don't get me wrong, I like the Monaro, all of them from series 1 through to Z and would prefer it to the HSV Coupe. As far as engines go, althogh the LS1 was the current engine at the time of release, it should have had something special, be it larger or modified but that comes back to where HSV stifle the Holden product. With no engine mods and no exterior treatment, the early series Monaros are just that.....Monaros, NOT GTS Monaros but I suppose that's what HSV is for and they didn't deliver either.

[The Nurse]

I deliberately got an SIII to avoid the VZ changes, particularly the relocated tank and smaller boot. If it had come out that way, I don't know if I'd've still got it or not. Not everyone thinks the scoops and bluff front and rear are an improvement, although I'd like the brakes and engine/exhaust mods.


Same here Dacious, the scoops and boot were the decisive factor for me, the scoops on the Monaro don't do anything for me, and i'm a young punk, shouldn't they appeal to me?

[IIV8II]

Same here Dacious, the scoops and boot were the decisive factor for me, the scoops on the Monaro don't do anything for me, and i'm a young punk, shouldn't they appeal to me?

you aren't a Yank Punk!

[The Nurse]

you aren't a Yank Punk!

how very true

[SteveK]

Hey Ryzz- I wouldnt hold your breath waiting for a new Monaro on VE platform. I dont believe there will ever be another Monaro built in Australia again. Remember that it was pure determination and a lot of luck and support from GM personel that pulled this one off. The project was driven by passion.
Unfortunately the sales were never going to be able to make this project viable over the long haul in a country with our small population.
If we do get another coupe, I believe it will be something imported from overseas and rebadged here.This would never be recognized as a true Monaro if its not Oz built.
Congratulations to Holden on the final car and the charity involved. I think the car is a fitting way to bring the curtain down on a wonderful period in Australian motoring history.
But most of all I thank Mike Simcoe and his team for bringing us the greatest motor car this country has seen and I for one am glad he is recognized forever with the final car.
To those fellow Monaro cruisers out there, enjoy the experience as we too are part of this special period. RIP Monaro 2001-2005
Happy Cruzin.

It has been well documented both on these forums and in the press that Holden has tooled their VE platform to cater for a coupe, and even a convertible offering at that. Also dates of 2008 for the return of the coupe have been mentioned. The search feature is your friend.

This was the last of the current Monaro based on that original VT shape and lines but it is definitely not the end of the Monaro EVER. That'd be ludicrous of Holden and they know.

Steve

[plonkerchops]

Same here Dacious, the scoops and boot were the decisive factor for me, the scoops on the Monaro don't do anything for me, and i'm a young punk, shouldn't they appeal to me?


Well being 37 I suppose Im heading into old fart territory to some , but the fact that the VZ with its bonnet nostrils and twin exhaust, to me gives it the boy racer look which I prefer and if I were to buy the Monaro it would be the VZ only ... a bit more of a muscle car look perhaps . The earlier ones to me were more a 2 door Calais. (For that matter if I were in the market ( ie if I could afford one ) Id buy the GT over the Clubbie for the same reason)

[daabido]

My prediction is that it will easily go for $250k.

[Pickles]

It has been well documented both on these forums and in the press that Holden has tooled their VE platform to cater for a coupe, and even a convertible offering at that. Also dates of 2008 for the return of the coupe have been mentioned. The search feature is your friend.

This was the last of the current Monaro based on that original VT shape and lines but it is definitely not the end of the Monaro EVER. That'd be ludicrous of Holden and they know.

Steve
G'day Steve.
Sorry to disagree with you, but I don't believe you'll ever see a large V8 Coupe built in Australia again.
IF, such a vehicle is built again, it'll be built in the states, probably on our Zeta platform. It could be built as a Camaro, or a GTO, but it won't be built here, & at the moment, there's no certainty it'll be built in the US either.
For 2000 sales per year as a Monaro, it simply doesn't make sense to build it in Aus. With 75% of sales in the USA, & probably more if it was built there, why would GM build it in Aus? And if a vehicle (GTO or Camaro) is built in the USA, do you think they'll tie up production facilities to make just 2000 in RHD-I don't think so!
So, unless Holden decides to import a Monaro type vehicle, the current vehicle will be the last.
Unless of course, Holden decides they will do a Monaro in a 4 door version(which wouldn't be a Monaro in my book!), then, as I've said, the current Monaro will be the last.
So, guys, there's still a few new ones around, if you want one you'd better be quick, because you'll never have another opportunity.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Pulse 8]

It has been well documented both on these forums and in the press that Holden has tooled their VE platform to cater for a coupe, and even a convertible offering at that. Also dates of 2008 for the return of the coupe have been mentioned. The search feature is your friend.

This was the last of the current Monaro based on that original VT shape and lines but it is definitely not the end of the Monaro EVER. That'd be ludicrous of Holden and they know.

Steve
Appreciate your point of view Steve but I still stand by my original post. This will be the last and no amount of spin from Dennis Mooney or anybody else will convince me otherwise. You only have to take a look at the figures and GM,s financial predicament to realize the sums future looks bleak for another Oz monaro.
Happy Cruzin.

[Dacious]

Well, I'd not say never. But I doubt it will be this decade. If the Camaro is not being released until mid-2008 (annd it's no certainty) as a 2009 model I'm highly doubtful. Many people doubt there will be local manufacture in 2010.

Now that England allows LHD cars to be registered, there is little incentive to engineer any models to RHD, so I reckon we'll see no Corvettes, Camaros, Cadillacs or anything else from the US until and unless the Australian government does likewise.

If they do, it will really be the beginning of the end for local manufacture, so I don't think this likely.

[SteveK]

And the bidding has started. Sort of.

Ebay Link (http://members.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=lastholdenmonaro)

From the look of this seller, lostholdenmonaro, i wouldn't buy off him. He's got no ebay feedback. ;)

Steve.

[Carby650]

And the bidding has started. Sort of.

Ebay Link (http://members.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=lastholdenmonaro)

From the look of this seller, lostholdenmonaro, i wouldn't buy off him. He's got no ebay feedback. ;)

Steve.

Yes looks a very dodgy caractor this one... :p

[Ryzz]

So when is the car Auction going to go up?

[Goggles]

So when is the car Auction going to go up?

when you submit the first bid for $100,001 :)

[monarocv8z]

reserve met at 100,000 in the first 17 mins....

see:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4611976689

[Carby650]

86 bids already and at $125k. Anybody wish to revise their predictions on the price????

[zimmerpete]

now 170 !!!

[zimmerpete]

damn !!!! - i just got outbid at 235

[Angeldust]

250K now..thats unbelievable... lol...:bawl:

[Ryzz]

$262,600!!!!! :shock:

[Goggles]

$300,300!!!!!

[NickS]

$300,000 ... it has to be :bs:

[Hqcoupe350]

Looks like the current highest bidder is american, interesting...

[zimmerpete]

Looks like the current highest bidder is american, interesting...

makes sence - only a yank would pay that much !

[Stocky]

I have to agree with you. There are a few names that were on the 4 boys list.

A look at the Ford forums could be interesting now.

I hope it does go for a very large figure as the proceeds is for charity.


Stocky

[Goggles]

now $350K :lol:

[zimmerpete]

now $350K :lol:

Thats insane !!!

wonder wat the last Ferrari will fetch ?? :rofl:

[Goggles]

now $405K - more than my house is worth :)

[monarocv8z]

its now $400K - too slow

[Haze]

Well, it's gone way past what I would pay for it.

I wonder if at the end of the auction they will anounce they will build just 1 more..........:stick:

[korrupt]

Wonder how many fake bids this will get...

[Freaky]

Wonder how many fake bids this will get...

according to ebay

"Your bid will only be considered if you have been verified by the GoingGone bidder verification process.

Before or after you have placed your bid please visit www.goinggone.com.au/verify and enter your information. A member of the GoingGone team will be in touch to verify the details you have supplied as well as to place a pre-authorisation on your credit card for $AUD 250."

[Ako]

$430,000, this is crazy.......has to be a corporate buyer doing it for the exposure.

[SpeedRacer]

I don't understand why people bid on ebay items at the beginning of the auction??? If everyone waiting to the last 30 secs, the prices would be so much lower :slap:

[BOONTA_LS1]

$500,101 now!!
DAMN!

[Muzzak]

I've just put my Z up, hopefully someone will make a mistake and fund my retirement.


"2nd last Monaro"


haha, jokes.

[Muzzak]

HOLDEN SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT :

Due to the popularity of the Very Last Monaro. A decision has been made to produce 4 more Very Last Monaros. They will all be identical in specification to the Very Last Monaro so as not to be unfair to the purchaser of the Very Last Monaro.

Read all about it in tommorows paper.

[Brendan24688]

They could have at least put a 5 year unlimited Km's warranty. Pretty pathetic Holden.:doh: :limpy:

[sammie_3186]

I think the new owner wont get a chance to use the warranty.... this will have delivery km all its life:limpy:

[vx_clubby]

Has anyone got a link too it??
please
I cant find it :(

[vx_clubby]

sorry Im an idiot I just found it lol
der lol
my bad

[Haze]

Has anyone got a link too it??
please
I cant find it :(

Here you go.... :bounce:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4611976689&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:AU:1

[Ryzz]

HOLDEN SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT :

Due to the popularity of the Very Last Monaro. A decision has been made to produce 4 more Very Last Monaros. They will all be identical in specification to the Very Last Monaro so as not to be unfair to the purchaser of the Very Last Monaro.

Read all about it in tommorows paper.
Mate i find this very very hard to believe. Sounds like a load of BS to me.

[ralcool]

Yeah, Corporate Suicide. Esp after the auction goes off .... sorry Sir btw there are 4 more...... :biggun: :kapow: :slap: :astavista: :director:

[YLD57L]

Mate i find this very very hard to believe. Sounds like a load of BS to me.

It's a joke, a take on the 'extra 400' thing. :teach:

[seldo]

Mate i find this very very hard to believe. Sounds like a load of BS to me. Psst....want to buy a really big bridge......? ....Cheap ? ;) You might remember this guy was also very vocal about the extra 400 Monaros too....:stick:

[markone2]

.......and the last purchase made from the leading bidder...was???....a $9.50 Barbell :werd:

[Freaky]

.......and the last purchase made from the leading bidder...was???....a $9.50 Barbell :werd:

been looking at that as well with some other bidders that bid over $200k.

saw things like 10 buck calculator. 99cent usb adapater. something stinks.

[Haze]

I wonder if after this that anyone will try and build a replica. Imagine the looks you would get driving around if people thought you were driving the $600,00.00 +? Monaro on the road...

I noticed the winning bidder still has to pay on road costs and stamp duty... I bet the RTA are sitting there rubbing there hands together. :deal:

[LSX-438]

something stinks.

exactly, doesnt smell right

[NRD80Y]

I've only just watched this for the last 10 mins at it's gone from $500K to $700K :hmmm:

[Haze]

Well, the bids (valid or not) are at $700,000.00 :shock: . This is just crazy :p

Anyway, at this rate..... who thinks it will get to the 1 million mark? :hmmm:

[Carby650]

Well, the bids (valid or not) are at $700,000.00 :shock: . This is just crazy :p

Anyway, at this rate..... who thinks it will get to the 1 million mark? :hmmm:

This is really getting beyond a joke. Look I hope this car raised shit loads of money for the charity but surely nobody would be buying the car at that price as an investment. They would either be a company who is wanting it for display purposes or somebody with too much money burning a hole in their pockets.

[vx_clubby]

I know when the clay model came out in the Sydney show for the remake of the Monaro (When it was only an idea or concept to get public approval). Someone begged to have it and offered $450,000 just for the clay model lol.
So there are some pretty hardcore Holden people out there. Good on them :P

[BOONTA_LS1]

I think there are a lot's of fake bids here!!
The new top bidder bought 2 pair's of sock for $1.25!!!!!!!
Cant imagine anyone with that kind of money would buy there socks on Ebay :lol: :lol:

[YLD57L]

It would be a shame if people take the piss out of a charity auction.

[Goggles]

well its now up to $950K

[Carby650]

well its now up to $950K

Make that $1 mill :errr:

[Goggles]

Make that $1 mill :errr:

now $1.1mill:lol:

[VZKOOP]

I'm beggining to think that the bidders have not all been through the criteria to bid. Just looking at some of their item history makes me wonder if ebay have not set the bidding criteria up properly. Maybe I'm a sceptic but I am going to bet that the auction is either ended or most of the bids cancelled.

[One tonner]

I have heard that some of these rat bags on Ebay get a rush out of bidding on things. It’s like gabbling. They put on their bid and wait to see it go up by the next Ebay junky. The cycle continues until some dip sh#t ends up the highest bidder and then won’t pay.:mad:

I have seen it many times were cars get re listed due to non-payment.

This also results artificially inflated prices, case in point is the older Monaro’s on Ebay. I also think other Monaro owners bid on these cars to raise the price because they think a high profile car going for a high price make theirs worth more. For example the Bathurst Monaro that sold for $55K by Shannon’s.

$3 Million then $5 Million WTF

I also think its a crock. No this IS a crock

[Goggles]

I'm beggining to think that the bidders have not all been through the criteria to bid. Just looking at some of their item history makes me wonder if ebay have not set the bidding criteria up properly. Maybe I'm a sceptic but I am going to bet that the auction is either ended or most of the bids cancelled.

now $2.5 million.....oh dear :)

update...now 3 mill

[Black_SV8]

$2,000,000 for monaro what a joke. Ebay needs to stop the auction.

[wally01]

3.0 mill now.shit just did a refresh and it's 5.0 mill gotta be a crock this.

[Goggles]

$5.0 mill now!!!!!!!

[6.0]

I think you guys are right with the BS bidders, a genuine collecter with heaps of cash would not have a history of buying crap on ebay.

[LSX-438]

$2,000,000 for monaro what a joke. Ebay needs to stop the auction.
i think they have

[VZKOOP]

I have heard that some of these rat bags on Ebay get a rush out of bidding on things. It’s like gabbling. They put on their bid and wait to see it go up by the next Ebay junky. The cycle continues until some dip sh#t ends up the highest bidder and then won’t pay.:mad:

I have seen it many times were cars get re listed due to non-payment.


Yes I'm watching it happen at the moment with my Futura on ebay. I did well with my wifes excel - no reserve. People are bidding stupid amounts. Like $2 and then $100 from the opening bidder. :cussing: No more from him seems $100 was all he was prepared to bid even though the ad clearly states the reserve is 12500.....:machinegun:

[747]

$5 million!!!!!!

[ssvyredute]

remember they auctioned all the international cricketers shirts on ebay for charity.shane warnes sold for 2.5 million.after they weeded out all the jerk offs the genuine bid that won was $14000.

dumbasses got nothing better to do:idea: :cussing: :teach: :hide:

[wally01]

6.0 mill now

[LSX-438]

god damn still going.

[Haze]

What a wanker. The guy who is currently biding 5 Mil is a complete knob. The secound last thing he bought was a 9 Volt Battery.

Yeah, I am sure that if I had over 5 Mil in the bank I would be buying my batteries on eBay... Then again maybe I would...

[Redhot_57]

There's some cashed up f*&^%$ out there!

Id have liked a nicer colour and a few more mods for the money..

Shame they couldnt have given it an LS2.

[V8torana]

8 million now!

[Senator9]

8 million now, is this for real

[BigKev]

8mil now, just wait till tomorrow and see how many bids get scratched though

[wally01]

I just asked the wife if i can place a bid ,yeh thats cool but the only down side is if i do that i can't have any beer tomorrow night ,and i have to use cash as the credit card is over drawn ,i don't spose i could send them a money order if i was to win ,whats your thoughts guys.

[Redline]

8mil now, just wait till tomorrow and see how many bids get scratched though Exactly, just a bunch of people driving the price up.....there is no way it will go for anywhere near that much..... :rolleyes:

[Haze]

I just asked the wife if i can place a bid ,yeh thats cool but the only down side is if i do that i can't have any beer tomorrow night ,and i have to use cash as the credit card is over drawn ,i don't spose i could send them a money order if i was to win ,whats your thoughts guys.

I think all of the LS1 forum members should chip in and we could all buy the car, then we could share it (how many members have we got?). We could all sit around it and admire it

:kneel:

[V8torana]

10 million what tha?????

[Quen10]

For a push rod dinosaur you have to be kidding and in the nice vomit yellow get outta here.:lmao:

[wally01]

Ok bids are being removed 8 mil last look either that or people are removing them thereself ,mmm don't think so .

[Haze]

Ok bids are being removed 8 mil last look

Yeah, it looks like they are sorting it out and getting rid of some of the losers. Might go back down to a realistic level. :rolleyes:

[One tonner]

Maybe Holden should have sold the car. Then may be they wont have to sack any more workers.

Denny Moony would be kick’n some ones ass about now.:argue:

Stop the Auction this is a joke; they should have to pay a $100K or more deposit to bid. That would sort out the dummy bidders.

[SCiFiRE]

i reckon the only POSSIBLE for real bid there is maximax2003, considering all his details are private, something someone with that amount of cash would probable do.

The rest have to be a joke. (i know a guy at work bit 100,000 or so as one)

[Quen10]

Maybe Holden should have sold the car. Then may be they wont have to sack any more workers.

Denny Moony would be kick’n some ones ass about now.:argue:

Stop the Auction this is a joke; they should have to pay a $100K deposit to bid. That would sort out the dummy bidders.

the winning bidder will be a dummy spitter when he realises he has bought the last piece of crap to crawl off the holden factory line.

[YLD57L]

Have you got sand in your VJ Quen10?

[SLEEPERVX]

He owns a KIA......nuff said

[vysandman]

For a push rod dinosaur you have to be kidding and in the nice vomit yellow get outta here.:lmao:

Mate, If I were you driving aroung in a Kia Pregio diesel, the last thing I would be doing is knocking the engine configuration or colour of another vehicle. You proabably no sooner get to work and it's time to come home again !:flip2: lmaol

[One tonner]

the winning bidder will be a dummy spitter when he realises he has bought the last piece of crap to crawl off the holden factory line.

:lmao:
Right on, you can buy a whole lot of car for that many beer coupons

[YLD57L]

I was waiting for the bites. He is just stirring, don't give him the attention. :cool:

[YLD57L]

Also, anyone else notice the VIN? It ends with 999999.

[Quen10]

Also, anyone else notice the VIN? It ends with 999999.

the sign of a car built on a Friday afternoon

[Quen10]

Mate, If I were you driving aroung in a Kia Pregio diesel, the last thing I would be doing is knocking the engine configuration or colour of another vehicle. You proabably no sooner get to work and it's time to come home again !:flip2: lmaol

its a old push rod V8 in a sickly yellow get over it

[wally01]

Going down 500 k lets see where it ends up.

[Freaky]

down to 350 now. ebay cleaning out the dummy bids :)

[Goggles]

now down to 250K

[Quen10]

depreciation already. soon they wont be able to give it away..

[YLD57L]

depreciation already. soon they wont be able to give it away..

It is a Holden after all. :lmao:

[Monaro Man]

I can't believe what i'm seeing here.

It's down from $10,000,000 to $152,000 now.

Do people think this is a game or something!

It would be laughable if if wasn't for charity.

[SteveK]

I can't believe what i'm seeing here.

It's down from $10,000,000 to $152,000 now.

Do people think this is a game or something!

It would be laughable if if wasn't for charity.

Ebay should associate bad reputations against these dummy bids. Their tune would soon change.

Steve.

[YLD57L]

Yep and some of em probably prize their feedback.

[Monaro Man]

Well, the bids back to a legit $152,200 now.

You should look at the history of bids page.
There are more dummy bidder than real ones.

[Monaro Man]

The the web address for the eBay Monaro auction for anybody who doesn't know it.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4611976689&fromMakeTrack=true

[daabido]

I don't think I would buy something like this from someone with zero feedback ;)

Seriously, I hope Going Gone are not charging Holden for their services on this auction. Have you see how much they charge?

Our fees are calculated as a percentage of the selling price:
30% of final auction value between $1 - $1000
25% of final auction value between $1001 - $5000
20% of final auction value over $5000

Damn. That's better than loansharking!

[SCiFiRE]

i wonder how they are sorting through the bidders. do you have to have 150k in a paypal account? or are they ringing and doing credit checks on everyone?

[vysandman]

its a old push rod V8 in a sickly yellow get over it

What's this ? You've modified the Pregio already ! You should have chosen the colour more wisely., oh well you're stuck with it now but I suppose that's the least of your problems.:weirdo:

[zimmerpete]

Serious question felllas ??

Does anyone know how the verification process works on ebay as i just jumped straight on it yesterday at 2.00 pm and bid without verifing or anything and they havent retracted my bid !!


zimmerpete ( 250) AU $123,200.00 09-Feb-06 14:10:39 AEDST

maybe if you have a resonable feedback rating its ok to bid without verification but im not sure

anyone know how it works ??

[Cal.oz]

isnt it as soon as you hit the bid button you enter into a legally binding contract??

[zimmerpete]

isnt it as soon as you hit the bid button you enter into a legally binding contract??

well that is obviously not the case is it if there are heaps of bid retractions getting handed out on the item

[NRD80Y]

Does anyone know how the verification process works on ebay as i just jumped straight on it yesterday at 2.00 pm and bid without verifing or anything and they havent retracted my bid !!

Well if you read the whole info block by Holden you would read under "GoingGone":
Your bid will only be considered if you have been verified by the GoingGone bidder verification process.

Before or after you have placed your bid please visit www.goinggone.com.au/verify and enter your information. A member of the GoingGone team will be in touch to verify the details you have supplied as well as to place a pre-authorisation on your credit card for $AUD 250.

I assume you'll be getting a call at sometime

[VT-099]

I deliberately got an SIII to avoid the VZ changes, particularly the relocated tank and smaller boot.

I'm even going so far as to track down a good series 1 to get a pre VY interior. I want to sit in a car, not a modern appliance.

I would however like the split dual exhaust, although with the "classic" 45 cut tips.

I was going to buy a HQ GTS when I was in college, but fell in love with the 2001 Monaro. I still have the original brochure from the Sydney Motor show and as soon as I can sell my old VT commie, I'm buying a 2002 CV8.

[zimmerpete]

Well if you read the whole info block by Holden you would read under "GoingGone":
Your bid will only be considered if you have been verified by the GoingGone bidder verification process.

Before or after you have placed your bid please visit www.goinggone.com.au/verify and enter your information. A member of the GoingGone team will be in touch to verify the details you have supplied as well as to place a pre-authorisation on your credit card for $AUD 250.

I assume you'll be getting a call at sometime

i understand all that mate, i have read all the print but why wouldnt i have had that call yet as i was one of the early bidders yesterday and most of the RECENT bids have already been retracted.

i guess my point is ' if i havent been verified ( which i know for a fact i havent ) why does ebay allow someone to bid above my amount, as it should be invalid

[scat2k3]

i understand all that mate, i have read all the print but why wouldnt i have had that call yet as i was one of the early bidders yesterday and most of the RECENT bids have already been retracted.

i guess my point is ' if i havent been verified ( which i know for a fact i havent ) why does ebay allow someone to bid above my amount, as it should be invalid

Seems they are still cleaning up the unregistered bidders. Its gone now and the current high bid stands at 120,100

Cheers,

Scott

[zimmerpete]

Seems they are still cleaning up the unregistered bidders. Its gone now and the current high bid stands at 120,100

Cheers,

Scott

yeah cheers Scott - i just got a call from em - finally

They asked me if i wanted to keep my bid and put $250 on credit with em - i told em to get knicked

Why would anyone hold there bids when they know that probably most of the other bids under them are unverified as well

what a scam - you shouldnt be allowed to BID on these auctions until you go through the verification process FIRST

I feel sorry for the charity - this auction is going DOWN ....not UP

[V8torana]

The auction may be going down but realistically any serious bidders won't bid until the last minute.

[Cal.oz]

putting it up on ebay would be one of the silliest things they have done.

[zacz]

Despite the issues with false bidding....I think putting it up on EBAY has been a very good exercise in branding and public awareness for Holden and for Monaro..........not just in Australia, but around the world!

[seedyrom]

and how on earth do they do they police and verify bids done in the last few minutes of the auction closing ?? Can you imagine the number of fake bidders waiting ?

When I first read it was going to be held on ebay, I couldnt believe what I was reading.
I've gotta say, that that was a STUPID idea to use eBay. Then to get some sharks in at 20% to host the auction ??
:slap: :fewl: :stupid:

When's the last time an eBay auction of that scale has worked ? Remember in the cricket last year or the year before. Channel 9 were auctioning off the players shirts and the coin used for the toss ?
Silly/fake bidding ruined the concept. Nice work by goinggone in selling themselves and the idea to Holden as the best method of selling a piece of history.

Maybe a silent auction at the Melbourne motor show would be better. Maybe even an auction held internally, which would limit the easy availablity of people to do dummy bids. Hell, even naming a $250,000 price tag and seeing who comes to the party would be better.

Whatever the case, the momentus occassion involving the very last Monaro, has been cheapened to no end using eBay - well the concept may be good, but idiots in the general public are ruining it.


I hope goinggone are waiving their standard fee structure as this is for charity. But i doubt it. Everyone wants to make a quick buck, even at the expense of the sick.


Now lets see what happens in the last 5 mins of the auction. Pity if two people do dummy bids higher than your legitimate one. Yours wont even register, so when the countback happens, you wont be in the running.


:slap: :banghead:

[Redline]

I agree, the ebay thing is a joke.....they could have done it other ways and still made money for charity and doing it.

Doing it through ebay just creates an excuse for people to abuse it which brings a dim light on Holden and the Monaro.

[OLS108]

putting it up on ebay would be one of the silliest things they have done.
I dont understand the Thinking of these So called adults that are putting in false Bids !!!! I just struggle to see where or why its Funny

[Holden]

Just to give some perspective from the manufacturer ... no system would be perfect but eBay is by far the fairest way to charity auction because you don't have to be at the motorshow or able to participate in private auctions. Any other form of auction would have had an aspect of elitism about it. The very last Monaro should be able to be purchased by anyone. Unfortunately, there's been a few people who took that sentiment literally yesterday.

Following last night's enthusiasm, eBay and GoingGone have been diligently sifting through the bidders and switched to pre-approved bidders only. We know there are genuine bidders in the mix and the Leukaemia Foundation will end up with a six-figure donation. That means it will be a success - period.

As for service fees, eBay and GoingGone have both recognised the charity aspect and public profile of this activity so please don't assume that standard arrangements apply.

[IIV8II]

Thanks for clearing that up Holden

It's a shame that some 'dummy bidders' have clogged up the process, and attracted the criticicsm of some people here, but I can't think of a fairer, more open method than EBay method

[Ryzz]

Well said Holden, its great having you guys participating on this site and providing feedback like this.

[V-Car]

Who in their right mind would bid on a car from a seller with zero feedback? ;) :p

[Dacious]

Just because a few dog-wankers can't control their 'look at me, look at me' impulse doesn't mean the auction is a bad idea.

Holden could have just sold the car on the quiet, with no fuss, to the highest-bidding dealer, paid for Christmas bonus trips for their executives and said nothing to anyone. I bet if Mercedes or BMW did this you'd have to have an invite to a black-tie event to get a look in.

At least the cause is a good one.

Good on them for acting in good faith - it's not their fault there's no law against fools.

If nothing else, they just raised the average price of all Monaros!

[Carby650]

Just because a few dog-wankers can't control their 'look at me, look at me' impulse doesn't mean the auction is a bad idea.

Holden could have just sold the car on the quiet, with no fuss, to the highest-bidding dealer, paid for Christmas bonus trips for their executives and said nothing to anyone. I bet if Mercedes or BMW did this you'd have to have an invite to a black-tie event to get a look in.

At least the cause is a good one.

Good on them for acting in good faith - it's not their fault there's no law against fools.

If nothing else, they just raised the average price of all Monaros!

Well said Dacious . I just hope there are no more glitches in this whole thing and plenty of $$$$ are raised for the charity.

[SteveK]

Despite the issues with false bidding....I think putting it up on EBAY has been a very good exercise in branding and public awareness for Holden and for Monaro..........not just in Australia, but around the world!
Yeah, and they should have had the same item on ebay.com (not .au) as the FIRST and LAST Pontiac GTO with Monaro body kit and unique paint. ;)

Get those cronies over there bidding.

[Dickie Knee]

You could buy " NOT The Last Holden Monaro Ever Made "

It's a little cheaper.

Ebay Link (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NOT-The-Last-Holden-Monaro-Ever-Made_W0QQitemZ4612087349QQcategoryZ102244QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem)

[XLR8 V8]

You could buy " NOT The Last Holden Monaro Ever Made "

It's a little cheaper.

Ebay Link (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NOT-The-Last-Holden-Monaro-Ever-Made_W0QQitemZ4612087349QQcategoryZ102244QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem)


His reserve price is a little ambitious :eek:

[Monaro Man]

Thats pretty funny! :jester:

I like how he has the reserve set at $67,000
I think he's hoping no one will bid for it.

[VZKOOP]

I like the question he has.....:lol:

[YLD57L]

The question and answer are gold. Good luck to him trying to make a quick buck of someone elses advertising. :lmao:

[Dickie Knee]

His reserve price is a little ambitious :eek:

I did say it was a litle cheaper, not cheap :D

[daabido]

Thats pretty funny! :jester:

I like how he has the reserve set at $67,000
I think he's hoping no one will bid for it.

One of the finest blokes I have met I reckon. No doubt $67k would sooth his sorrow of losing such a fine instrument.

[vx350int]

thats gold

You are NOT bidding on the last Holden Monaro ever made.

The Holden Design Team has not spent many wonderful hours massaging this Monaro into a lather of testorone fuelled excitement.

This car has never been at the Melbourne Motor Show, pedastalled like a model before that whole video tape thing. It has been admired down at the 7-11 though. OK, that might be exaggerating things a little. It wasn't the 7-11, it was the Night Owl.

Mike Simcoe refused to sign this Monaro, or any part of me as it turns out. That restraining order really makes things difficult Mike...

No, it hasn't been Data Dotted or anything like that. I do think however that there might be some chewing gum under the seat somewhere.

So what are you getting for your hard earned (well, I don't really know, you could have earned it really easily) money?

A 2005 Turismo Blue CV8 Auto with 10300 kilometres on the clock in good condition.

That's it. But you'll probably pay a couple of hundred grand less for this one than Holden's last one.

Don't forget the most important part - That all the proceeds will be invested in my beer fund. It's thirsty work but I think I'm up to the task.

Delivery will not be arranged to your closest Holden dealer so you better work out a way to get it to your place from Brisbane... No, I won't Air Mail it to you if you are overseas!

Good luck to Holden with their car. They sure are supporting a great cause. If you miss out on that one though you can sooth your sorrow with this beauty.

Plus it's an auto for those lazy buggers like me.

[monaroCountry1]

Those silvia guys have been putting in fake bids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A bit disapointed really, seeing as the auctions for charity.

[Martin_D]

$150 grand for the last Monaro?
Buy the second last one for $50K
or a Series One for $25K
:)

[VZKOOP]

$150 grand for the last Monaro?
Buy the second last one for $50K
or a Series One for $25K
:)
Thats not really the point of the excersize though is it...:) And I don't know how many people who sell their series 1 Monaro would then donate the proceeds to charity. :whip:

[Martin_D]

You are correct VZKOOP
Arguably the point is to work up another public lather about the coupe to disguise the fact that there is very little real meat and potatoes in the current Holden range. The fact that Holden get their hands on $1mil worth of publicity for an internally costed $20K car, AND the kids get the donation(ensuring more media hype) is a carefully planned event. Not a random act of goodwill.
Call me a cynic but if you want to help a charity simply make an unsolicited donation. :)

[VZKOOP]

You are correct VZKOOP
Arguably the point is to work up another public lather about the coupe to disguise the fact that there is very little real meat and potatoes in the current Holden range. The fact that Holden get their hands on $1mil worth of publicity for an internally costed $20K car, AND the kids get the donation(ensuring more media hype) is a carefully planned event. Not a random act of goodwill.
Call me a cynic but if you want to help a charity simply make an unsolicited donation. :)
So good for everyone then? Leukemia Foundation gets some money. Holden gets some publicity. Monaro owners feel special.
You're a cynic...:p

[twin_spinner]

i reakon it will reach 225k by the end.

[daabido]

Can you believe that someone offered to beat me up for posting this spoof?

[plonkerchops]

. The fact that Holden get their hands on $1mil worth of publicity for an internally costed $20K car, AND the kids get the donation(ensuring more media hype) is a carefully planned event. Not a random act of goodwill.
Call me a cynic but if you want to help a charity simply make an unsolicited donation. :)

actually youre spot on..its not cynical at all
The company I work for over here has done several promotional giveaway houses over the years and now has been doing charity houses too. ( for televised donation drive for charity run over a set weekend) The managing director gets on spouting his philanthropic views about how its all ' for the kids ' but the reality of it that its many hundreds of thousands of dollars of free advertising basically for next to nothing.

[Martin_D]

Can you believe that someone offered to beat me up for posting this spoof?

Dont listen to Nurse, hes harmless :eyes:

[lovhsv]

looks like a standard monaro to me

[YLD57L]

You are correct VZKOOP
Arguably the point is to work up another public lather about the coupe to disguise the fact that there is very little real meat and potatoes in the current Holden range. The fact that Holden get their hands on $1mil worth of publicity for an internally costed $20K car, AND the kids get the donation(ensuring more media hype) is a carefully planned event. Not a random act of goodwill.
Call me a cynic but if you want to help a charity simply make an unsolicited donation. :)

Yes that is the way it works, call it a win/win situation, call it a big company looking after itself behind the halo of an angel. But good thing it is happening that way than not at all.

Another thing is the *insert random charity here* execs driving around in BMW X5s. Humans are like that (am I a cynic or a realist?). But again, better it happen that way than not at all.

[SSBarney]

Another thing is the *insert random charity here* execs driving around in BMW X5s. Humans are like that (am I a cynic or a realist?). But again, better it happen that way than not at all.

Hmmm, no doubt your judgement is based on an objective review of what charity exec's drive and how they fund them:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Perhaps their BMW X5's (are u sure thats what they all drive) are salary sacraficed, which would mean not one less cent to the charity than if they took it as cash.
Most charity organisation execs (including X5 drivers) take a less than competitive salary so that they can pursue their career in an area that might provide some greater benefit than the ME ME ME Ltd's.

Guess you are looking forward to donating your future car funds to the "insert random charity here" funds, and driving your daewoo maitz to work:driving: :headbang:
:sleep:

[YLD57L]

Hmmm, no doubt your judgement is based on an objective review of what charity exec's drive and how they fund them:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Perhaps their BMW X5's (are u sure thats what they all drive) are salary sacraficed, which would mean not one less cent to the charity than if they took it as cash.
Most charity organisation execs (including X5 drivers) take a less than competitive salary so that they can pursue their career in an area that might provide some greater benefit than the ME ME ME Ltd's.

Guess you are looking forward to donating your future car funds to the "insert random charity here" funds, and driving your daewoo maitz to work:driving: :headbang:
:sleep:

Please don't try to discredit me. I wasn't being an arse for the sake of it, if you would take notice of what I was saying about Holden's doing, they could have done much worse! My example is actually based on fact, but I am not stupid enough to defame any institution or person publically. :teach:

The bit of your quote I made bold is the exact point I was making, so calm down a bit. ;) But as the creatures we still are fill our own pockets first (as a bold generalisation) and always will.

[Ryzz]

Most charity organisation execs (including X5 drivers) take a less than competitive salary so that they can pursue their career in an area that might provide some greater benefit than the ME ME ME Ltd's.
Thats not entirely true mate. Some of the highest paid Exec's and CEO's come from the NFP (Not For Profit)/Charity Sector.

[Dacious]

The title of this thread should change to 'No good deed goes unpunished'

Winston Churchill once got a British society dame to acknowledge that she would sleep with anyone for the right amount of money. She protested that this didn't make her a whore.

'Madam', he said, 'we have already established what you are. Now we are negotiating on price'.

Pretty much no-one here would donate to a charitable cause without deducting it from income tax if possible. Or would stop people they've done a big favour for from broadcasting it. If you accept any benefit from your charitable or benevolent activities but criticise this auction as a cynical excercise, I guess you need to ask yourself if you feel like being the pot, or the kettle today.

Yes there's a return for Holden from advertising the auction. But it by making it a charity benefit it also potentially results in a higher effective donation because the winning bidder can also claim it on their tax.

I can just imagine the whiners on this site if Holden had just sold the car internally to a dealer or trade identity who then tried to onsell it for a lot more.

[kryten2001]

I can just imagine the whiners on this site if Holden had just sold the car internally to a dealer or trade identity who then tried to onsell it for a lot more.

Precisely.

All the BS aside, when was the last time anybody here donated this kind of money to charity.

It's the same BS that celebs get when they do something for charity. Sure it might be for advertising, but they're still doing more than what the average schlub is.

If you want to sprout righteousness, put your money where your mouth is.

Good on em I say.

[SteveK]

Precisely.

All the BS aside, when was the last time anybody here donated this kind of money to charity.

A donation is a donation. Whether it be $10,000 to a charity or $500 to your mate to help him pay a bill. We just put a value on the amount as it relates to us as opposed to the problem it is trying to solve.


It's the same BS that celebs get when they do something for charity. Sure it might be for advertising, but they're still doing more than what the average schlub is.

Yes, but when I see a celeb earning some $20million a movie get some media attention for donating $10k to a charity I put it in perspective. That'd be like someone earning $1000 a week and donating $0.50 as a tip.

I fell off my chair when I heard how much Schumacher gave in to the Tsunami relief fund. Millions of his own. Now THAT is donating.

Great stuff Holden.

Cheers,
Steve

[LSX-438]

I'm not sure a tax deduction will be happening if they get a benefit from it (ie. a car) unless there is something set up with holden such they 'buy' the car for $x and make a donation for (auction_price - $x)

[Devil CV8]

I'm not sure a tax deduction will be happening if they get a benefit from it (ie. a car) unless there is something set up with holden such they 'buy' the car for $x and make a donation for (auction_price - $x)
you beat me to it... I can't see how purchasing an item at auction is going to result in a tax deduction just because the seller says they will donate to charity... doesn't that mean the seller gets the tax deduction for the charity donation...

[Dacious]

I am no tax whiz, but the way I understand it (my brother works for the Variety Club and conducts charity auctions) is that if some pissed Rotarian bids $5,000 and wins Merv Hughes' (as distinct from Dave Hughes') jock strap he wore while bowling out the POMs, he gets a receipt and he can claim it as a tax deduction by virtue of it being a donation to a registered charity. Obviously, it only reduces leviable tax by a percent of it's price. The value of the object is not taken into account, because it was donated in the first place. In effect, the person could be bidding for air in a paper bag, which I believe has been auctioned at the Variety Club when they ran out of memorabilia!

I do not know and I am not suggesting they intend to, but I believe Holden could also claim the cost of providing the Monaro to the auction as a tax deduction, so say $25K or whatever the basic cost of making a Monaro in labour and materials is. This is money they have foregone in donating the vehicle to the auction instead of selling it at a profit.

The same as if you donate $10 to the Salvos instead of the smokes or piss, you can claim it back from Smirkin' Pete.

You don't think these rich geezers would front the costs for Pro-Ams, gala balls, black-tie affairs, dinner speeches etc if they couldn't get some of it back! There's a reason the rich stay rich!

[Pickles]

I've two points to make. Firstly, I saw "the" Monaro at the motorshow last night, & was not particularly impressed with it- the colour was pretty average, & was not greatly different from Devil Yelllow. Wheels & trim are not greatly different from standard, so it's nothing really special as far as I'm concerned. The other thing I heard was that this car was originally black, & was resprayed by Holden-anyone else heard this?
Secondly, to me it doesn't matter about tax deductability etc etc, the point is that a very worthy charity is getting the full sale price, & as far as I'm concerned, full points to Holden for donating the car.
Cheers, Pickles.

[GEN III]

I fell off my chair when I heard how much Schumacher gave in to the Tsunami relief fund. Millions of his own. Now THAT is donating.


Then you have never heard of Bill Gates... :teach:

No one even comes close. Try donating Billions.. That's right Billions.

[Ganzer]

Then you have never heard of Bill Gates... :teach:

No one even comes close. Try donating Billions.. That's right Billions.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mynaro

I fell off my chair when I heard how much Schumacher gave in to the Tsunami relief fund. Millions of his own. Now THAT is donating


Schumacher gave 13 million of his owner and all he does is drive car, he must of loved his body guard.

[YLD57L]

Then you have never heard of Bill Gates... :teach:

No one even comes close. Try donating Billions.. That's right Billions.

You would hope so. He can't even come close to spending the kind of money he has, so good on him.

[Pulse 8]

I've two points to make. Firstly, I saw "the" Monaro at the motorshow last night, & was not particularly impressed with it- the colour was pretty average, & was not greatly different from Devil Yelllow. Wheels & trim are not greatly different from standard, so it's nothing really special as far as I'm concerned. The other thing I heard was that this car was originally black, & was resprayed by Holden-anyone else heard this?
Secondly, to me it doesn't matter about tax deductability etc etc, the point is that a very worthy charity is getting the full sale price, & as far as I'm concerned, full points to Holden for donating the car.
Cheers, Pickles.
Just wondering mate- What were your thoughts on the GTO LE at the show? No one seems to be commenting on it. Was it so mundane that it doesnt rate??? Anyone else attended the show as well please feel free to comment as I am keen to hear the comments on it.
Happy Cruizin

[Pickles]

Just wondering mate- What were your thoughts on the GTO LE at the show? No one seems to be commenting on it. Was it so mundane that it doesnt rate??? Anyone else attended the show as well please feel free to comment as I am keen to hear the comments on it.
Happy Cruizin
yes, i did see the GTO LE, a red car with red trim, which would be my choice if I was to order one. HSV rep told me they'd sold 37. When I said to him, "that's not many" ( 63 left to be sold), he said, " well no, but the car hasn't had much exposure yet,-it's only been in 2 shows".( Has not been in dealer showrooms yet) I still would have thought more orders would have been obtained. But I thought the car was ok.
I'm still not sure about the lack of a rear spoiler- it is, after all, an HSV, & the lack of a rear spoiler, is a little unusual. But having said that, many in the HSVOC love it! The new 6.00 litre VZ SS was close, which was getting a lot of attention, but the LE was getting its share of admirers as well.
Cheers, Pickles.

[JA SV8]

Then you have never heard of Bill Gates... :teach:

No one even comes close. Try donating Billions.. That's right Billions.


Yes but how much money does he make?? Billions and billions, i think its silly to put a dollar figure on how much you donate, i donated less than $50 for the Tsumani, but thats what i could afford, im sure if other people made the amount gates made, then they would donate heaps too.
Im not having a go, im just trying to say what Schumacher gave is probably similar in that terms to Gates.

Its all good :)

[plonkerchops]

Yes but how much money does he make?? Billions and billions, i think its silly to put a dollar figure on how much you donate, i donated less than $50 for the Tsumani, but thats what i could afford, im sure if other people made the amount gates made, then they would donate heaps too.
Im not having a go, im just trying to say what Schumacher gave is probably similar in that terms to Gates.

Its all good :)
and you can be pretty well assured that Schumacher did it as a selfless act of charity and not getting a kickback from it...

[Pulse 8]

yes, i did see the GTO LE, a red car with red trim, which would be my choice if I was to order one. HSV rep told me they'd sold 37. When I said to him, "that's not many" ( 63 left to be sold), he said, " well no, but the car hasn't had much exposure yet,-it's only been in 2 shows".( Has not been in dealer showrooms yet) I still would have thought more orders would have been obtained. But I thought the car was ok.
I'm still not sure about the lack of a rear spoiler- it is, after all, an HSV, & the lack of a rear spoiler, is a little unusual. But having said that, many in the HSVOC love it! The new 6.00 litre VZ SS was close, which was getting a lot of attention, but the LE was getting its share of admirers as well.
Cheers, Pickles.
Good to hear mate. Shame they didnt have the other colour combinations there as well. But I have been informed that they are building the 25 red/white ones first, then the 25 yellow/ black followed by the balance of 50 black/gold. Interesting to see that 2006 plated GTO,s are starting to appear on carsales and carpoint. Maybe your GTO might arrive earlier mate.
Happy Cruzin.

[GEN III]

Just dont gloss over the fact that Schuee gave unpteen million because he drives cars.

He should be giving money aswell. If I had a castle with an underground parking lot full of lush exotic cars, I think I could spare a small percentage of my yearly takings aswell.

Yes at the end of the day there's no differance. But Schuee does it once. Gates does it yearly. :headbang:


Anyway back on topic.

[Muzzak]

yes, i did see the GTO LE, a red car with red trim, which would be my choice .....
I'm still not sure about the lack of a rear spoiler- it is, after all, an HSV, & the lack of a rear spoiler, is a little unusual........
Cheers, Pickles.


Pickles you're being too hard on this spolier thing. I know we're isolated here in good old OZ, but the spoiler is so...well...unfashionable. It's all subjective, but finally HSV is catching up with the times. And I hope that when the time comes for me to trade in my "spoiler-less" naro in the future - HSV spoilers are a thing of the past. Take it how you will...

Here are some modern classics :

Lamborghini Murcielago
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/lamborghini/tn_murcielago_3.jpg


ferrari enzo
http://www.atspeedimages.com/pebble_2004/concorso_italiano/ferrari_enzo/mptn-ferrari_enzo_black_rear_end.jpg


Aston Martin AMV8 Vantage
http://www.carpage.hu/amv8-2.jpg


Muz

[vysandman]

Pickles you're being too hard on this spolier thing. I know we're isolated here in good old OZ, but the spoiler is so...well...unfashionable. It's all subjective, but finally HSV is catching up with the times. And I hope that when the time comes for me to trade in my "spoiler-less" naro in the future - HSV spoilers are a thing of the past. Take it how you will...

Here are some modern classics :

Lamborghini Murcielago
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/lamborghini/tn_murcielago_3.jpg


ferrari enzo
http://www.atspeedimages.com/pebble_2004/concorso_italiano/ferrari_enzo/mptn-ferrari_enzo_black_rear_end.jpg


Aston Martin AMV8 Vantage
http://www.carpage.hu/amv8-2.jpg


Muz

Well said Muzzak. I was over the whole spoiler thing years ago. They used to look good when they were fitted to "sports" cars but when they started appearing on everything from taxis to Hyundai Elantras, I started to think cars looked better without them. The HSV Coupe spolier is one of the worst I've seen !

[Pickles]

Spoilers & body kits in general are very subjective. I think most people don't like rear spoilers on CV8s, but there was one fitted to ours when we bought it, & we liked it. As far as HSV models are concerned, judging by the number of HSVs sold, most don't have a problem with them, I guess if you don't like them, then you just don't buy one! The point I was making with the LE was, I suppose, it's neither one or the other-ie, it's got a spoiler on the front, but not on the rear, apart from the roof spoiler. But then again, many of my friends in the HSVOC think it's great.
I think one's opinions can also vary from car to car( even when just talking about HSV)-- some I don't like at all, but some, I think, are pretty good. I've not seen HSV's VE, but it'll obviously be fitted with a body kit, some of whom will like it, some won't!
Cheeers, Pickles.

[Dacious]

A hot sedan like a Clubby, or SS, needs the spoiler as part of the kit to differentiate it from a stockish car. If I went to look at a SS and it didn't have a spoiler, I'd be asking questions.

I'm not a big fan of the HSV Coupe kit in general, but I also don't hate it. I'd certainly own a GTS. There's been lots of photoshopping on Monaros, but I haven't seen any that I think match Simcoe's work for simple minimalist lines. It looks good in pictures but better in the flesh, which is a good test. It's like a Spitfire Mark V or a P51D Mustang - it just works from any angle.

HSV has to get a different look to Holden's models to upsell to their cars. I actually agree with Pickles on the LE - it sort of looks like it's missing something, even with the colour panels. I'm going to see it in person tonight, so it'll be interesting to see in the flesh.

[Muzzak]

A hot sedan like a Clubby, or SS, needs the spoiler as part of the kit to differentiate it from a stockish car.

I don't disagree with the differentiating scenario. It goes without saying. I just wish the approach could be a bit more thoughtful. The problem is in the pholosphy itself here - stick as much crap on it to make it unique, regardless of whether it actually improves it.

With the LE I think Holden has shown a sign of maturity - cutting out something that adds no vlaue to the look and is only there to make it "different".

A unique, tasteful body kit - oriented on performance. Grand wheels, Exhaust system, and the actual performace itself is right up my alley. Personally I think HSV has gone over the top with some lineups. And it may be encroching on tackiness with some of the outlandish bolt ons. I reserve my oppinion.

Dig the M5...

http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%204.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%206.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%207.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%201.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%203.JPG


Cheers,
Muz

[zacz]

I don't disagree with the differentiating scenario. It goes without saying. I just wish the approach could be a bit more thoughtful. The problem is in the pholosphy itself here - stick as much crap on it to make it unique, regardless of whether it actually improves it.

With the LE I think Holden has shown a sign of maturity - cutting out something that adds no vlaue to the look and is only there to make it "different".

A unique, tasteful body kit - oriented on performance. Grand wheels, Exhaust system, and the actual performace itself is right up my alley. Personally I think HSV has gone over the top with some lineups. And it may be encroching on tackiness with some of the outlandish bolt ons. I reserve my oppinion.

Dig the M5...

http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%204.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%206.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%207.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%201.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%203.JPG


Cheers,
Muz

i agree with Muzz...

class = no spoiler or small lip spoiler and a good looking ground effects body kit

[HazzaHSV]

Auction just finished..

Winning Bid...

AU $187,600.00 :shock:

I reckon it will be put in a museum.

[Monaro Man]

Thats one expencive Monaro! The lucky bugger! :goodtime:

I tried to put in a winning bid at the last second, but missed out. :D

[plonkerchops]

Auction just finished..

Winning Bid...

AU $187,600.00 :shock:

I reckon it will be put in a museum.


is it staying Australia?

[Berg]

Lets Hope so!!!!

[Carby650]

Just hope the thing gets driven regularly and not locked up in a shed somewhere

[Pickles]

Auction just finished..

Winning Bid...

AU $187,600.00 :shock:

I reckon it will be put in a museum.
I reckon it will too. If you wanted to drive a Monaro you could get a new one for less than one third of the price, so why pay that sort of money when you're going to drive it- just throwing your money away, I reckon.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Haroc]

you throw money away when buying any car, I cant see it going to a museum. Cars are made to be driven. If I spent that much money Id drive the damn thing, if only it was a weekend thing. It wouldnt live inside.

[Ghosn]

Im wondering how many of you(in the case you were the winning bidder) would mod it or keep it stock? If money weren't too much of an option.

[Dickie Knee]

Auction just finished..

Winning Bid...

AU $187,600.00 :shock:

I reckon it will be put in a museum.

I'm hoping it will be kept at the Holden Driving Centre.

Then I can at lest go and see it.

[Carby650]

Im wondering how many of you(in the case you were the winning bidder) would mod it or keep it stock? If money weren't too much of an option.

It would have to be kept stock. Which is why I wanted holden to give it more KW's then they did because you could not change this car from how it came of the floor. If you wanted to mod a car then you might as well get any Monaro. Just my view.

[leethl]

I don't disagree with the differentiating scenario. It goes without saying. I just wish the approach could be a bit more thoughtful. The problem is in the pholosphy itself here - stick as much crap on it to make it unique, regardless of whether it actually improves it.

With the LE I think Holden has shown a sign of maturity - cutting out something that adds no vlaue to the look and is only there to make it "different".

A unique, tasteful body kit - oriented on performance. Grand wheels, Exhaust system, and the actual performace itself is right up my alley. Personally I think HSV has gone over the top with some lineups. And it may be encroching on tackiness with some of the outlandish bolt ons. I reserve my oppinion.

Dig the M5...

http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%204.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%206.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%207.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%201.JPG http://www.revozport.com/webpics/e60M5/TN_E60%20M5%203.JPG


Cheers,
Muz


I have to agree with Muz a nice clean tough car not over done always looks
better. Also by the way did anybody have a look at the Ford stand at the
motor show, arnt those falcons crap they look so unfinished even the GT.
If anyone gets a chance just try closeing the front doors on one and watch
how it shakes and jumps, it was the same on all of them.

cheers Leethl

[TRY-300]

Does anyone know if the final price on this Monaro was $187,600?

Cheers

[HazzaHSV]

Mate look at post #238 one page back.


Does anyone know if the final price on this Monaro was $187,600?
Cheers