To those with DUMPED!! VU (and i guess VY/VZ) utes

[VU_SS_UTE]

Im getting my ute lowered asap and i want it LOW!
What have most people gone with who have theirs rather low.

I've heard Lovell springs seem to be the lowest is this correct.

I want it sitting flat and with at least a little of the rear tire under the guard.

So any suggestions, and especially pics would be much appreciated...

Thanks in advance

[disco71]

Its a pitty that you live in tassie I have a pair of kings springs that i had in my vu ute for sale to low to get over my drive way.

[VU_SS_UTE]

Its a pitty that you live in tassie I have a pair of kings springs that i had in my vu ute for sale to low to get over my drive way.

Do you have any pics of them in your ute?

[disco71]

Do you have any pics of them in your ute?
yes i do give me your email addy i will sent them to you , with the model numbers

[VU_SS_UTE]

yes i do give me your email addy i will sent them to you , with the model numbers

That would be great thanks, im seeing now if i can organise free freight to TAS...

My email is matt_fennell @hotmail.com

Thanks heaps

[MR R33]

i have pedders suspension springs and shocks, and it sits wickidly low, il try and post some pics up its a vy ss ute

[mmm]

remember, you wont be able to carry as much weight

but utes should be lowered, they look like a shopping trolley stock
cheapest way is couple of sand bags over the wheel arches:nyuk:

[disco71]

That would be great thanks, im seeing now if i can organise free freight to TAS...

My email is matt_fennell @hotmail.com

Thanks heaps

email sent

[VU_SS_UTE]

remember, you wont be able to carry as much weight

but utes should be lowered, they look like a shopping trolley stock
cheapest way is couple of sand bags over the wheel arches:nyuk:

Yeah i've got a VS III ute with poly air susp so load carrying is not really a worry in this ute! I dont care if i cant have a loaf of bread in the back really, just want it as low as possible.

MR R33 that would be great thanks.

And disco71 ill check my email - cheers :thumbsup:

[evlss1]

i know in s.a that mr.plod will give you a canary if your ute is lowered at all. mate of mine got done a while back, and i've started to see a few utes getting around with them again. apparantely as they are classified as a commercial vehicle they can't be touched at all!! don't know what the laws are like in tassie though. mr plod, always out to ruin everyone's fun:flip3: :flip3:

[VU_SS_UTE]

i know in s.a that mr.plod will give you a canary if your ute is lowered at all. mate of mine got done a while back, and i've started to see a few utes getting around with them again. apparantely as they are classified as a commercial vehicle they can't be touched at all!! don't know what the laws are like in tassie though. mr plod, always out to ruin everyone's fun:flip3: :flip3:

Nah nothing to worry about like that down here thank god!

Theres one around (this is incase by fluke someone knows him) with the numberplate SPARX that i really want mine to sit like. But never see the car apart from driving the other way etc.

Heaps of cars in TAS are dropped to the weeds, cops generally dont worry about defects down here unless you act like a tool on the road.

[hsv1413]

heres a query.
Just got some VU spack rear springs from ebay for a princely sum of one whole dollar......i love it when that happens.

Were the VU spack utes standard FE2 or just normal. I have no idea.
Searched to no avail.
I want to put them on my VY ute to slightly drop it but need to make sure.

Cheers peoples.

[LOWKEY]

My SS-Z ute has got 2" compressed Ultralows with Red Koni Shocks :dance:

[ASC-07]

My SS-Z ute has got 2" compressed Ultralows with Red Koni Shocks :dance:

Sounds cool have you got any pictures to share yet?

[PLS]

Hey VU SS UTE

I have a VYSS Ute and have lowered mine with pedders show springs ( the lowest they will go) on 20's and it looks aawsome. I did have another set in the rear that i had re set so that the rear end sat a little lower than the front but as time went on the springs sank to low and there fore had to resort back.

Happy Lowering...

[dattoman1000]

Utes run a load sensing valve on the back for rear bias
Remember to get this reset or you will have alot of rear brake
Wear pads out faster and risk premature lockup (ABS function)

[slammed 50]

hey mate. Today I had my vxII Clubsport lowered. to be honest i was quiet suprised how low it actually sat . I lowered it with Pedders Xtreme Suspension, the car has 19' vx gts wheels and the measurement was 582mm from the bottom of the rim to the guard in the rear, which the top of the tyre sits just under the guard. The front measured 580mm with the tyre just under the guard. This is some thing to be seen the front coil over still has
20mm of adjustment ,so still can go lower. Would definately recommend this kit it cost me $1548.00 installed. I get the photos developed tomorrow if you would like me to email you a couple just send me your email address.

[LOWKEY]

Sounds cool have you got any pictures to share yet?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/MAYHEM6/ssz/gtsrims.jpg

with the new koni's it now sits lower than the above pic

[slammed 50]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/MAYHEM6/ssz/gtsrims.jpg

with the new koni's it now sits lower than the above pic
looks awsome mate that is a bit higher than my clubby in the rear

[VU_SS_UTE]

looks awsome mate that is a bit higher than my clubby in the rear

Well if your clubby is lower then im definately interested!!!

Email is matt_fennell@hotmail.com

Cheers

[LOWKEY]

with my new konis it sits half way between the rim and gaurd in that pic

[VU_SS_UTE]

Does anyone know whether the King or Lovell superlow springs are lower?

No real height measurement on either website...

[LS1UTE]

looks awsome mate that is a bit higher than my clubby in the rear

Utes will always seem to sit higher in the rear due to guard shape. Measure actual ground clearance and you'll be surprised. Will post some pics of mine before i raise it for racing. I'm currently running pedders extreme coil-overs in the front and super lows in the rear. Sits sbout the same as lowkeys in the rear.

[LOWKEY]

Does anyone know whether the King or Lovell superlow springs are lower?

No real height measurement on either website...

just by kings

if there not low enough - compress them
if there not low enough - buy airbags

[blkss]

My SS-Z ute has got 2" compressed Ultralows with Red Koni Shocks :dance:


whats it like with a load in the back now??

[LOWKEY]

whats it like with a load in the back now??

I dont use it as a ute and never carry anything in it.

Although the first decent load ive put in it was 2 bikes, 2 gear bags & 2 stands. Total would have been around 250+kg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/MAYHEM6/ssz/DSC002455.jpg

Drove on the highway to the track and the exhaust did hit a fair few times, but thats because it was less than a 1" off the ground :headbang:

[KPWISHN]

The SSZ looks great being so low. Tough as nails.

My clubby is pretty low and it's hard to get around in without wrecking stuff.

The ute must be hell to drive around the streets.:driving:

[necromantia]

:o less than 1" ... eek !

i have king springs ultras in my vx and it scraps everywhere and its nowhere near that low... mine would still be 90 - 100mm clearance, would be more but the difilippo system seems to hang low... anyone else found that these exhausts hang low...

btw mines not a ute but still, food for thought i guess.

keep the pics comming... :D

age.

[LOWKEY]

:o less than 1" ... eek !

i have king springs ultras in my vx and it scraps everywhere and its nowhere near that low... mine would still be 90 - 100mm clearance, would be more but the difilippo system seems to hang low... anyone else found that these exhausts hang low...

btw mines not a ute but still, food for thought i guess.

keep the pics comming... :D

age.

Mine sat just under the 100mm mark with my compressed springs & stock shocks, then i had a difilippo system fitted and found it to be too low and hit the ground under load big time, it scraped every gear change! so cracked the sh*ts and had it sent it back cos i was in more need of new konis to take the trampoline effect away as the stock shocks were being maxxed out.

I Got the konis and it actually sat lower again, then i just bought a 2.5" supercat cat back and it hasnt scraped under load or at gear changes at all. It will hit going over speed humps and of course everywhere with the bikes on it.

The VZ's shudder when lowered a lot, anyone else notice this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/MAYHEM6/ssz/utelow.jpg

[VU_SS_UTE]

just by kings

if there not low enough - compress them
if there not low enough - buy airbags

Thats what ive done, getting king ultra lows this week, and if they're not low enough its only $105 for the back pair to get them compressed.

Cheers

I'll be sure to get some pics up after that...

[Maz]

Get the extra heavy duty kingsprings. That way the load carrying capability isn't compromised.

However kingsprings only make them in superlow KHRL-46HHD springs.

I have these in my wagon and it only drops 1 inch when i have 7 people in the car. So 500kilos extra weight and the car is still perfectly drivable. With the stock height springs, it actually sat lower with 7 people as it dropped over 3inchs when everyone gets in.

Kingsprings make custom springs to. u'd be best off getting extra heavy duty springs but get them in ultralow or 1inch lower than the 46HHD springs. The KHRL-46HHD will sit similar to the blue ute pictured, maybe a tad higher.

Alternatively u could just order some KHRL-46HHD springs and get them compressed 1inch.

[VU_SS_UTE]

Get the extra heavy duty kingsprings. That way the load carrying capability isn't compromised.

However kingsprings only make them in superlow KHRL-46HHD springs.

I have these in my wagon and it only drops 1 inch when i have 7 people in the car. So 500kilos extra weight and the car is still perfectly drivable. With the stock height springs, it actually sat lower with 7 people as it dropped over 3inchs when everyone gets in.

Kingsprings make custom springs to. u'd be best off getting extra heavy duty springs but get them in ultralow or 1inch lower than the 46HHD springs. The KHRL-46HHD will sit similar to the blue ute pictured, maybe a tad higher.

Alternatively u could just order some KHRL-46HHD springs and get them compressed 1inch.

Beauty thanks heaps Maz :yup:

[VFast]

Utes run a load sensing valve on the back for rear bias
Remember to get this reset or you will have alot of rear brake
Wear pads out faster and risk premature lockup (ABS function)
Who in Perth does this and what should I expect to pay?

The couple of brake places I contacted didn't have a clue!

Cheers

[LS1UTE]

Well, finally got around to posting some pics of the beast. Hope you like em !
BTW - the last one is a mates B2000, i think its low enough !http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/LS1UTE/IMG_0056.JPG
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/LS1UTE/IMG_0057.JPG
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/LS1UTE/IMG_0059.JPG
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/LS1UTE/low2473.bmp

[Kurt00]

what springs do u have in there LS1 UTE?

[LS1UTE]

Pedders extreme coil overs in the front. Pedders Super lows in the rear, they are a grey rear spring and most pedders springs ive seen are red ?

[VU_SS_UTE]

Who in Perth does this and what should I expect to pay?

The couple of brake places I contacted didn't have a clue!

Cheers

And (long shot her) but anyone in TAS, other than Holden i guess, cause ive never heard it mentioned before...?

[11SLI]

i have pedders shortened struts in my VU SS with a SSL spring.. tucks the tread on the VX SS 17" with 235x45 all round

[11SLI]

putting 20s on 2moro as well so will be sweet and ill post up some pics

[Paxton]

Mine sat just under the 100mm mark with my compressed springs & stock shocks, then i had a difilippo system fitted and found it to be too low and hit the ground under load big time, it scraped every gear change! so cracked the sh*ts and had it sent it back cos i was in more need of new konis to take the trampoline effect away as the stock shocks were being maxxed out.

I Got the konis and it actually sat lower again, then i just bought a 2.5" supercat cat back and it hasnt scraped under load or at gear changes at all. It will hit going over speed humps and of course everywhere with the bikes on it.

The VZ's shudder when lowered a lot, anyone else notice this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/MAYHEM6/ssz/utelow.jpg

I got my VZ SS Ute lowered recently (with King Springs) and I noticed the shudder immediately... was nearly going to turn around and go back to the tyre shop! Kinda used to it now... you feel the vibration under acceleration.

[VU_SS_UTE]

I got it done, thanks for all the replies. Ended up getting king super super lows (low enough for now):

Crappy mobile phone pic...

http://www.keypoint.com.au/~fennell-dsl/ute_03.jpg

[CV8-RO]

vu ss ute,

What part no.'s did you get?

[VU_SS_UTE]

CV8-RO ive got the invoice at home, ill find it and have a look for you...

[VU_SS_UTE]

NOT HAPPY!!!! I found out last night from a mate who has a VU as well, that there is a lower set of springs available!

So back to suspension place today for an explanation! And also if anyone is interested i guess these springs could be for sale soon, been it it for under a week!

[BEWARE]

Hey VU SS UTE

I have a VYSS Ute and have lowered mine with pedders show springs ( the lowest they will go) on 20's and it looks aawsome. I did have another set in the rear that i had re set so that the rear end sat a little lower than the front but as time went on the springs sank to low and there fore had to resort back.

Happy Lowering...

Hey, have you got any pics of your ute? Sounds like the same setup I was quoted on yesterday, I got a quote on coilover front and the lowest rears they do. Plus I am going to get 20s, so a few pics would be awesome to see how she sits!!!?!?!?!


11SLI.....saw you yesterday or the day before, looks nice and low, but no 20s yet!?

[VU_SS_UTE]

vu ss ute,

What part no.'s did you get?

Hi, sorry for the delay, part no's are:

Front - KH 47FL SL
Rear - KH 47RL SSL

[alexcs]

if you are getting shudder you need a wheel alignment. the amount some of you have lowered the rear, its no wonder :)

spend the money on a decent camber kit for the rear, and then some decent money on a laser wheel alignment. youll thank yourself when you dont have to replace the rears every 5000kms.

ideally id be getting new bushes etc all round and a caster kit, but most dont bother. the rear camber kit is a good idea though.

in utes, a cheap way of adjustable rear dumping is the polyair bag setup (i believe about 300 bucks, could be wrong), filled with a servo air pump or your own compressor, and let down by hand. this combined with an adjustable rear camber kit is the best solution, becuase you can pump it up when you have to lug stuff round, and drop in on its tits if youre so inclined :)

[HSVR8-6L]

I started out really low with some of my other cars and I got sick of head butting the steering wheel every time I went over a bump. Go real low and you will come to hate it.

[uncle]

The VZ's shudder when lowered a lot, anyone else notice this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/MAYHEM6/ssz/utelow.jpg
LoL I drove from syd to townsville just like that in my VUII ss ute.
2 roadbikes + pedders all round = sparks :nyuk:
I will post some pics when I can......
goung to get zaust fixed to day......doh

[WazaSSLS1]

when i had my VYII storm i had it lowered all round with pedders.
sat really nice but found it pretty ridged to drive.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/780000-780999/780913_24_full.jpg

[darcy]

when i had my VYII storm i had it lowered all round with pedders.
sat really nice but found it pretty ridged to drive.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/780000-780999/780913_24_full.jpg
Not to mention the sparks that had been know to fly from the exhast on a occasions over roads with ripples from trucks :stick:

[Mules]

A question for you guys with the low-low utes,

Have you had problems with wheels popping? My brother has a low VU and he has had to take off his 18's (they are the double star grange rims) at the back as they continuely pop. They seem to wear on the inside tyre walll. Have you come across this and if so what did u do to overcome it?

[alexcs]

get a camber kit, either a proper one or nolathane bushes.

if youre really dumping it down, your probably better off rolling the rears guards, and getting a good 400-500 buck camber kit put in, and laser wheel aligned. will save you shitloads of $$ on tyres

[VU_SS_UTE]

A question for you guys with the low-low utes,

Have you had problems with wheels popping? My brother has a low VU and he has had to take off his 18's (they are the double star grange rims) at the back as they continuely pop. They seem to wear on the inside tyre walll. Have you come across this and if so what did u do to overcome it?

Nah i havent had this problem, i had a mates 19s on for a while too.

As alexcs said get a camber kit and decent wheel alignment!

[VU_SS_UTE]

Thats right, im going lower! As such the current rear springs will be upr for sale in a week or so, price to come and the springs can be seen below...

http://www.keypoint.com.au/~fennell-dsl/ute_03.jpg

[shaunv8]

Sorry to dig up an old thread but to those of you experiencing "shudder" after serious lowering this could be because of the pinion angle. This is VERY common when raising 4wds as the working angle of the uni-tailshaft has dramatically changed. The way to get around this with 4wds is to shim the diff with caster wedges until the shudder disappears. This would be also the case albeit reversed if you were to extremely lower a vehicle too......This is my opinion anyway......Cheers Shaun

[LOWKEY]

thats interesting shaun, im just about to put the original springs in to hope the shudder definatly goes

[VFast]

Sorry to dig up an old thread but to those of you experiencing "shudder" after serious lowering this could be because of the pinion angle. This is VERY common when raising 4wds as the working angle of the uni-tailshaft has dramatically changed. The way to get around this with 4wds is to shim the diff with caster wedges until the shudder disappears. This would be also the case albeit reversed if you were to extremely lower a vehicle too......This is my opinion anyway......Cheers Shaun
That statement only applies to vehicles with a live axle be it a 2wd car or a 4wd...

The pinion angle will not change with an IRS car because the diff housing is bolted to the chassis.

The only angle that changes is that of the half shafts on each side of the diff that drive the hubs/wheels. If you do a search, you will find that this has been mentioned before and can cause problems to some lowered Commies.

My ute has superlows and fortunately did not suffer any shuddering or vibration when I had it lowered, unlike some have experienced.

[LOWKEY]

my ute is fine now with original springs.

having the 2" compressed ultra lows must have been just a bit too much for it

[AWD 62L]

Hey Guys

I need a bit of advice. Im driving a VZ Ute atm. It just a standard jobbie, and was wondering if FE2 suspension would lower it a bit. I dont really want it in the grass, because its still a work ute, but want to even it up a bit. Also, if i do it, will i need shocks and springs from an SS, or just springs? And if anyone has pics of such a ute, that wouldnt be bad either.

Thanks
James

[VU_SS_UTE]

Hey Guys

I need a bit of advice. Im driving a VZ Ute atm. It just a standard jobbie, and was wondering if FE2 suspension would lower it a bit. I dont really want it in the grass, because its still a work ute, but want to even it up a bit. Also, if i do it, will i need shocks and springs from an SS, or just springs? And if anyone has pics of such a ute, that wouldnt be bad either.

Thanks
James

I would at least get King Low's if you're going to bother, the FE2 in utes is still rediculous. With Lows it will well and truly still be able to be used as a work ute, ive had a few hundred kilos in mine and its still fine.

[gen3ss]

My VU has kings superlow all round but i wanna go slightly lower in the rear, kings do a SSL or Ultra low????

VU_SS_UTE, I have had a look at the SPARX ute and he is running Lovells springs, the reason it sits low usally is cause of the great big compressor that is in the back and all his tools, i saw it empty at Howells and it was around as low as yours.

Are you going on the Ute cruise on the 13th May at the D.E.C.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/gen3ss/shannonsexpo05007.jpg

[vz300]

Heres mine I just got kings to make me a custom set...... I took the mesurment from centre of wheel to gaurd then took of the amount in millimeters to were the gaurd sat over the wheel.....

seems to be spot on.....

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/Satansfist/

[VU_SS_UTE]

My VU has kings superlow all round but i wanna go slightly lower in the rear, kings do a SSL or Ultra low????

VU_SS_UTE, I have had a look at the SPARX ute and he is running Lovells springs, the reason it sits low usally is cause of the great big compressor that is in the back and all his tools, i saw it empty at Howells and it was around as low as yours.

Are you going on the Ute cruise on the 13th May at the D.E.C.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/gen3ss/shannonsexpo05007.jpg

gen3ss - kings do a SSL and an SSSL which is what i have in mine currently

Ill be getting SSSL (when i finally get hold of some) soon for the rear and will be selling my current rear springs...

I saw SPARX empty as well and yeah its the same as mine.

Ill be there next sat at the DEC too yeah!

[VU_SS_UTE]

Heres mine I just got kings to make me a custom set...... I took the mesurment from centre of wheel to gaurd then took of the amount in millimeters to were the gaurd sat over the wheel.....

seems to be spot on.....

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/Satansfist/

vz300 how much did that end up costing you and what measurements did you have to give kings?

Im trying to get hold of a set of SSSL for the rear but the susp place go to reckon they dont exist any more.

[gen3ss]

VU SS UTE,

Have you got any side on shots of your ute?

[VZ Growl]

Had to sell my ute for a sedan for the moment, love my sedan don't get me wrong, but as soon as the missus wants her little car gone I am getting my ute. Great looks guys and killers when dumped.

[VU_SS_UTE]

VU SS UTE,

Have you got any side on shots of your ute?


I dont at the moment, but im working nights this week so ill get some side on ones somewhere flat tomorrow when i get up...

[WazaSSLS1]

Not to mention the sparks that had been know to fly from the exhast on a occasions over roads with ripples from trucks :stick:

yeh that was a bit of a worry. but you get that:lol:


well i have had the SS lowered its sits very nice at the moment, well for my liking anyway. :D
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/780000-780999/780913_64_full.jpg

[MTC]

I test drove a very lowered VYSS crewman today & it was a great price. I was going to buy it but suspension was so hard & it just bounced up & down all the way down a flat road. is this the "shudder" you guy's talk about? asked what was done & standard suspenion was compressed. felt very dodgy. If i brought it & put standard fe2 back in would it fix this??

[VU_SS_UTE]

I test drove a very lowered VYSS crewman today & it was a great price. I was going to buy it but suspension was so hard & it just bounced up & down all the way down a flat road. is this the "shudder" you guy's talk about? asked what was done & standard suspenion was compressed. felt very dodgy. If i brought it & put standard fe2 back in would it fix this??

Yeah standard susp would fix that, what your talking about there is sort of llike trampolining i guess, its just the shocks and springs not working properly together.

The shudder everyone is talking about is when u plant it in 1st/2nd the wheels sorta half grip half slid and they bounce up and down causing the rear end to shudder, seems to be made worse by lowering as i didnt notice it when mine was 4x4 style.

[WazaSSLS1]

i found in mine now its lowered that the steering shakes. now i have had a wheel elignment which it did not fix the problem. so im guessing that the wheels are out of balance. am i correct? or could it be something else?

[JWLS1]

got mine done this week, im quite happy with the result

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i17/josh_01_2006/P5171042-2.jpg

[VU_SS_UTE]

Looks pretty good, SL front and SSL rear???

Looks pretty much how mine used to sit

[WazaSSLS1]

very nice. at that height and those mags it looks sweet. nice job. how much did you drop it?

[JWLS1]

not sure exactly how far, about 60mm i think. could be a tad bit more.

[TWISTEDW86]

You could always bag it, my mates old Vu was bagged and looked trick

[hyperss82]

go with the drop in airbags i had some in my vu ss just pump up at servo when need higher or take air out to lower

[JT090]

wow 4 year old thread dig