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shmick
01-03-2006, 05:04 PM
Well after reading and reading, I came to the conclusion that a small cam, 206/212 ish, would be best (along with higher diff ratio) for an everday car (boat in my case).
After reading Talk the Torque, some say why get a cam when you can just go for a high stall.
Can someone please explain the differences between the results of both. Which would you get if you wanted 90% of your torque from 1800-2000 rpm?
I thought i knew what i wanted but then i didnt. I understand why they say ignorance is bliss.
Please help as I am sure heaps of people are in my position, or would like to know from those that have been there done that.
VooDoo
01-03-2006, 05:20 PM
i have a 216/220 @ 114 in a barge and the torque is AWESOME. ended up doing a 12.597 @ 109 at willowbank with it although i did have a stally too. Seldo has the same cam but no stally and did a 12.78 in a senator.
The cam is almost impossible to pick as it sounds, drives and idles the same as stock, uses less fuel due to the tune and gets the barge moving with ease.
Of course i then wrecked everything and turboéd it too :D
shmick
02-03-2006, 06:09 AM
i have a 216/220 @ 114 in a barge and the torque is AWESOME. :D
so im asuming apart from cam and stally you had standard mods, otrcai, tune, gears???
were u running 95 or 98fuel?
STATIE
02-03-2006, 08:22 AM
Well after reading and reading, I came to the conclusion that a small cam, 206/212 ish, would be best (along with higher diff ratio) for an everday car (boat in my case).
My missus has got a 206/213@114 in her WH11 statesman and it is very punchy down low.
She's also run 12.5's@110mph (not on NS11's though:lol:) with it so it goes ok too.
Personally I'd go a little bigger if I was to do it again but it depends on what you want the car to do, and plenty of people with bigger cams, stall's and gears are finding it hard to beat my missuses times in a stato.:lmao:
And yes - its got 3.46's - 2800 stall and an ORCAI.
Same comments as VooDoo - drives better than stock - much quicker and uses less fuel - you do know its not stock from the sound of it though (Difilipo twin 2.5's and Difilipo 4-1's)
seldo
02-03-2006, 08:41 AM
A stallie and a cam do two different things, although they can have similar results. The right cam will actually give you more real torque at the flywheel, whereas the stallie is akin to just slipping the clutch so that you can get the engine higher up into a better part of its torque curve. But, of course if you combine the 2 you have the best of both worlds.
shmick
02-03-2006, 06:06 PM
thanks for the info guys.
do youz think the stally price is worth the experience?
statie, i wish my missues was as understanding.she thinks the stock wh is fast enough.i say why do you need 1400 pairs of shoes, 50000 jeans and 300 bags?beats me.
im planning to go 3.7s (although i was told 3.9 cos of weight, but i do freeway a lot so might get pricey), tri-y, twin 2.5, prob open cats, up the line pressure in auto, a small cam, ?now maybe a stally?, otrcaia and mafless.
am i missing somthing??/
would the tri-y make a noticable difference over 4-1s?
i just want extractors for the added sound.
of the topic, my friend bought an r33, 98model, 270 rw.20pound at 4500, my god.now i have to get a cam.and the handling.it feels like its glued to the road and weighs 50kg.if i tried to handle the wh at those speeds like he did, i would flip the car.its a shame ill never have that. oh well, no replacement for displacement as they say.u just gotta sacrifice.
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