Where to from here? Design the new Barge Thread!

[VooDoo]

Well as you all know, the barge blew an engine and its stuffed. Just for fun i thought we could all have a go at designing the next stage of its life.

Requirements.
$10k MAX
2000kg+ weight
4L60-E Auto + Stally
GenT Turbo


What would you do? LS2? Stroker? Forgies etc? Another stocker?

[KiWi]

At least me and you were special on saturday Voo. Im in the same boat, except, im saving as of last night for a new motor

[Tre-Cool]

On the cheap side, i'd just chuck in a 6L iron block engine and keep boost to a moderate level, tune it for 91 octane fuel (but run it on 98 afterwards) and be done with it.

At the moment you probably feel as good as i did when my blower shat itself, You'll feel even worse when you find out how much it's gonna cost you to get it up and running again.

[martosss]

With that budget......forge the bottom end of a motor and put it back in

[C4B]

Sell the turbo, and add the money you get from it towards a nice stroker combo.

You'll be able to flog it all day long, and you can always add other goodies (eg. FI) later on if you really want to go insane.

I think you know who to call....... :burnout:

[Tre-Cool]

I'm sure we could find someone on here willing to buy the turbo kit from you.

:lol:

[Redline]

Another stockie Stu....just put some valve springs in and proper gaskets and away you go again.

Nothing too hard about that, you know that the Turbo kits work perfectly with stock motors. Chuck some forgies and rods in if you really want to.

Keep the Turbo kit, if you go back you will regret it.....remember N/A is gay :limpy:

[Febs]

What's a crate LS2 cost? Could you buy a crate LS2 and strengthen it for under $10k?

If not, I'd probably just buy a crate LS1 and strengthen that. Sure, plenty of people are getting around with stock LS1s and boost, but well...as you now know - not all those engines all survive.* :( Personally I think the insurance of having a built motor would be comforting....plus you could safely run big boost and do a 10sec pass in the beast. Every night! Show those "fast Skylines" what 2000kg of luxury can do. :D

What's a crate LS1 go for these days? $3-4k? Add some forgies and whatnot on top of that, and fitting, and you should be able to get away with it for under $10k, right?

Cheers,
- Febs.

* For clarification, that's what I was getting at in that thread on OCAU months ago. Nothing more. :)

[MattJ]

Well as you all know, the barge blew an engine and its stuffed. Just for fun i thought we could all have a go at designing the next stage of its life.

Requirements.
$10k MAX
2000kg+ weight
4L60-E Auto + Stally
GenT Turbo


What would you do? LS2? Stroker? Forgies etc? Another stocker?

402 ci stroker short: Brand new LS2 block with JE forged pistons suit FI, Scat H-beam 6.125" rods, Eagle crank, ballanced and ready to place a camshaft and heads on. Cast blocks are even cheaper!!

from $8100...

Freight $1400 to your door. (alloy block)

ring me if this sounds interesting.

[Aus8]

L76!! ?? How about that?

[VooDoo]

L76 is interesting. Awesome heads, large valves, lower compression, Add a cam and rod bolts and it would be an interesting combo.

Selling the turbo isnt an option. Its just to addictive. Adding a nice stroker to it would be fun though.

[vy storm]

sell it and buy a real car, a ute!!! lol

[Aus8]

The best thing about this is whatever you get it will be a awesome combination and will bring a smile to your face

[fatas]

hi mate sorry to find out about your barge just think bigger and better :driving: :nos: :burnout: . how are you getting the barge home ? :cussing:

[pagey]

Freight $1400 to your door. (alloy block)



:shock: :shock: :shock: $1400 for freight??

I will go down and pick it up Stu for an even 1K! :wave:

[Carby650]

its like being a kiddie in a lollie shop... Whatever you choose it's going to do the trick ! But I agree with others. If you got the turbo keep the turbo. build your set up around it. All the best with the Barge mark 2
Carby650

[VooDoo]

:shock: :shock: :shock: $1400 for freight??

I will go down and pick it up Stu for an even 1K! :wave:

I got the car from Melb for $700 :)

[macca33]

Firstly, commiserations over the breakage Voodoo.

After the heartbreak comes the dawn......Stroker sounds good, you'll just have to bolt the turbo up to it and away you go!!!

Imagine, 383 or 402 turbo in a Statey......GIDDY UP!!

Regards,

Macca

[Febs]

I got the car from Melb for $700 :)

Your Stato has a big boot. You could've chucked the donk in there and pocketed $1,400. :lol:

[KeenGolfer]

Rebuild with forgies etc, so can run more boost :)

I have a stock LS1 engine for sale for $2k in the classifieds if you need an engine to start with. It'll be hard to do it for under $10k if you want to build a motor, crate LS1's are $5200 new.

[Gareth@Willall]

Crate motor and slip a cam in while ya at it with some 918's and be happy :) 14 - 15 PSI and it will be an animal again :)

[VooDoo]

Rebuild with forgies etc, so can run more boost :)

I have a stock LS1 engine for sale for $2k in the classifieds if you need an engine to start with. It'll be hard to do it for under $10k if you want to build a motor, crate LS1's are $5200 new.

$5200 for a LS1, $5500 for a LS2, $9990 for a 383 stroker.

I have a stocker to use for a while till i put together a new engine. Im just interested in what others would do in my position. I have a plan in mind already and have spoken to Powertorque about the possibilities.

[bigjoe]

Another stockie Stu....just put some valve springs in and proper gaskets and away you go again.

Nothing too hard about that, you know that the Turbo kits work perfectly with stock motors. Chuck some forgies and rods in if you really want to.

Keep the Turbo kit, if you go back you will regret it.....remember N/A is gay :limpy:

THe only gay thin is you limp dick:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[StevieD]

Buy Drewbytes stock LS1 engine put some valvesprings in it and put the rest towards a deposit for an investment property

[MNR-0]

sell the turbo - they suck :moon:

build a 360ci forged 4" bore ls1 with a 5.3l crank, cam it up and u will blow turbos away














if high-revving statos are ur thing...

[Redline]

THe only gay thin is you limp dick:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:Wow.....with such a witty response its no wonder you drive an N/A car :lol:

Oh....and learn to spell....its embarassing :lmao:

[VooDoo]

Buy Drewbytes stock LS1 engine put some valvesprings in it and put the rest towards a deposit for an investment property

got 2 of those already. need a new engine before i need another house :D

[Uncle Tone]

402 iron block stroker. Definitely. Nice and strong with forged internals, mild GTS cam.....or, if yours is still ok use that, same with the heads.

Gen T back on, tune and :burnout:

[StevieD]

got 2 of those already. need a new engine before i need another house :D

Buy another one

[nemesis5]

i was in this position last december when my shiny new turbo combo made a banana sundae of two of my rods...and left my girl and i stranded 1200km's from home too, great fun :flamin:

anyway if it helps, i've gone the 383 stroker route, using my old block, heads and...well thats about it, eagle h-beam rods and crank, mahle domed pistons, comp lifters, springs, double row chain (had the single stocker and some tired old comps from the old cammed engine, so they found the bin), tickle the heads and 1-piece valves, plus a few other things...always wanted a turbo...and a stroker, so i found the bright side of the situation to liquidate the house fund and make me feel better, lol :burnout:
good luck with your decision btw

[dadem0n]

If you do have the $10K and want to spend all of it.... Go the 402ci with iron block, low comp forgies in it and run some big boost :thumbsup:

What did Mark suggest?

Here's another idea:
1. Sell Gen-T
2. Buy stockie for $2K
3. Forged pistons and rods
4. Buy T1000 :D

[Tre-Cool]

Is this 10K going to cover another transmission when that dies too? I would think anything over stock cubes with FI, is going to kill another trannie very quick.

[dadem0n]

Is this 10K going to cover another transmission when that dies too? I would think anything over stock cubes with FI, is going to kill another trannie very quick.

From memory he just got the auto beefed up and a new stall put in so all good there :D

[RedVYIISS]

:shock: :shock: :shock: $1400 for freight??

I will go down and pick it up Stu for an even 1K! :wave:

Pagey, I suspect that rather than heading south to pick it up, you start swimming north east. You'll get it back to Stu faster if you head in the right direction to pick it up.

After you've been swimming for a few days you'll think that the $1400 was not so expensive after all!

[VZ-SV8]

How did ya kill the big girl i thought it would of been pretty tuff? How many klms?

[vyssls1]

$5200 for a LS1, $5500 for a LS2, $9990 for a 383 stroker.

I have a stocker to use for a while till i put together a new engine. Im just interested in what others would do in my position. I have a plan in mind already and have spoken to Powertorque about the possibilities.


is your engine block still ok, i would still stay standard cubes, just drop the comp, and build the engine tough, and pump the boost.

Been in the same situation just recently.

The need for power wins again...

[Chris5.7ltr]

If it were me with that bugdet I would just build a nice strong bottom end and be done with it while the engine is out.

theres enough people out there proving what 'can' be done with a stock engine and boost so why risk it when you don't have to?

Or even better a L76 with a built bottom end, be one of the first.:)

[VooDoo]

is your engine block still ok, i would still stay standard cubes, just drop the comp, and build the engine tough, and pump the boost.

Been in the same situation just recently.

The need for power wins again...

The block has a hole in the side and minced inside. It will be back in Brisbane in a few days so we can pull it down and see what went wrong.

[seedyrom]

The block has a hole in the side and minced inside. It will be back in Brisbane in a few days so we can pull it down and see what went wrong.
Bloody Hell!!!


Then there's only one option .... thermite
http://media2.guzer.com/videos/thermite_car.wmv

[Azza]

Bloody Hell!!!


Then there's only one option .... thermite
http://media2.guzer.com/videos/thermite_car.wmv


Gees where's that stuff when you need it to use on an ex's car :D

[clubbieboy]

See if Drewbytes will cop $10,000 for the 427, strap the GEN-T on it and:burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:

[dadem0n]

See if Drewbytes will cop $10,000 for the 427, strap the GEN-T on it and:burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:

Seconded... All those in favour, say Aye!

[VooDoo]

You cant turbo a wet sleeve block. Thats why its for sale.

[pagey]

Pagey, I suspect that rather than heading south to pick it up, you start swimming north east. You'll get it back to Stu faster if you head in the right direction to pick it up.

After you've been swimming for a few days you'll think that the $1400 was not so expensive after all!

but i'm a good swimmer! Will not bring it back in one go.. maybe 3 or 4 trips.:booty:

[KeenGolfer]

You cant turbo a wet sleeve block. Thats why its for sale.
Not only that, you'd also need a T-1000, normal gen-T is too small.

[VooDoo]

Got the car back 2 weeks and put a whole 1240k's on it. Need to clock up around 2000k's before the final tune to ensure everything is bedded in right. (longer time than normal due to iron block). Car feels pretty awesome and rev's very freely, much better than the stock engine. I havent really given it any right foot yet due to its freshness but im sure i wont be able to help myself soon enough.

Final Spec's

* LS1 6.0LT CAST IRON BLOCK BRAND NEW
* EAGLE 4340 383 STROKER CRANK
* EAGLE FORGED H-BEAM CONNECTING RODS
* 6.125" WITH THE ALL NEW L19 ROD BOLTS
* MAHLE POWER PK FORGED PISTONS COMPLETE WITH RINGS & PINS BORE SIZE 4.020"
* PlanB's race heads. Ported and polished by Sams Performance, Customised for the stroker by Powertorque.. 10.5:1 Compression ratio. Flow approx 600hp
* Ferrea Stainless valves, Isky gold double valve springs, titanium retainers,
* Custom Powertorque baffled sump
* High flow oil pump, Blueprinted
* 232/234@112LSA Comp Cam
* Comp Cams Hi-perf lifters.
* Comp cams pushrods.
* New PWR Radiator
* 1 3/4 Primary 4-1 Difillpo Extractors
* 2 x 3.5" full stainless High flow cats
* Custom twin 3" Sureflow exhaust system
* Fully balanced and blueprinted (damn thats expensive)

Edit: btw, its LOUD. think V8 Supercar and thats what its like. Its prob WAY over the top and i might tone it down a bit but DAMN it sounds good.

Some pic's of the engine and internals

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Engine/DSCN2666.sized.jpg

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Engine/DSCN2664.sized.jpg

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Engine/DSCN2658.sized.jpg

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Engine/DSCN2652.sized.jpg

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Engine/DSCN2649.sized.jpg


More here http://www.oz8.org/gallery/Engine

[Uncle Tone]

Nice Voods!!:bow:

No turbo then?

[Max Power]

Great pics voodoo, that looks like a work of art. are you gunna sell the turbo kit? and what sort is it m8t

[OLS108]

did someone say LOUD ????
its a beast VooDoo....

any chance of seeing it this thursdays 7-11 ??:1peek:

[VooDoo]

Turbo is already sold and about to be fitted to another QLD car.

Dave: getting some suspension stuff sorted, back to PT wed and if they give it a pass it will be at the 7-11. Im not about to take a 20k engine to the track without thier blessing though.

[HRT Stroker]

Nice Voodoo...

If you dont mind my asking why did you get rid of the GenT setup?? I thought you loved boost?

Just curious why you had it for such a short time is all....

[VooDoo]

i needed to pay for the new engine and couldnt afford both. Plus with a GenT on the 408 it would be too small and require me to go to the T1000, that then required major fuel system upgrades and i'd be pushing over 500rwkw. The goal for the car has always been a daily driver so the turbo was overkill and had to go.

I "could" have got another stocker but it would always be in the back of my mind that the same thing could happen. While it isnt often talked about there has been a few engines die with forced induction. Mine was killed by a re-used rod bolt but being realistic, in my unuducated opinion, 350rwkw isnt "safe" from a stock internal engine. Others will disagree of course, thats up to them. I couldnt accept going down a path that could lead to another complete engine failure.

[XR4TED]

Nice Voodoo...

If you dont mind my asking why did you get rid of the GenT setup?? I thought you loved boost?

Just curious why you had it for such a short time is all....

Maybe with the headers he mentioned he is going supercharger instead??? That would be my preference anyway. Nothing like getting Stroked and Blown:nyuk: .

You were too quick for my reply

[VooDoo]

This engine will be NA only. No SC or Turbo's for a while (next car maybe, the GenT was an awesome bit of gear)

[nemesis5]

...* Fully balanced and blueprinted (damn thats expensive)...

bloody oath it is! :shock: and i agree 100% on what you said about stockers with boost, everyone can have their own opinion, but when you've been there and done that with your own car using your own hard earned its a different story :(
nice to see it all went together well voodoo, hope its as fun as it sounds :bounce:

[JRGRANGE]

Stu it looks the goods I expect youll give that barge record a crack youll have to spend some time on setup as its going to have some serious grunt off the line
Hope all goes well and bring on the Nationals, I may have to look at doing something to make some competion

[VooDoo]

One of the other barge boys up here (trent of the CURRUPT fame) threw in a 383 into his WK Caprice added a 4500 stally and did a 11.9 with stock suspension and setup. Was pretty impressive so it will be interesting to see what mine can do. His driving skill is a lot better though so i think ill need some prac. Its been a LONG time since i ran it without breaking something (Nov 05 actually)

[fyreblade2000]

One of the other barge boys up here (trent of the CURRUPT fame) threw in a 383 into his WK Caprice added a 4500 stally and did a 11.9 with stock suspension and setup. Was pretty impressive so it will be interesting to see what mine can do. His driving skill is a lot better though so i think ill need some prac. Its been a LONG time since i ran it without breaking something (Nov 05 actually)

G-day VooDoo,

Congrats on the new Engine. It is very sweet indeed :)

Did you consider installing Harrop's Hurricane system?

Have you got it Dynoed yet?

regards

Blade2k

[VooDoo]

NEW PB

11.86 @ 116.5mph. 1.6sec 60 footer

backed up with a 11.89 @ 115.9 and a 1.71 60 footer.

[ED]

Good times mate. Ive just got in the door after wheeling mine off the tilt tray.... Cant wait to see what the problem is....NOT

[RhysB]

Well done Stu. Awesome effort! They're a good thing those 408s thats for sure. Disappointed I couldnt be there last night to run. Shit happens....
Did you run slicks and runners?

[STATIE]

11.86 @ 116.5mph. 1.6sec 60 footer


Well done MooMoo.:bravo:
See NA cars can go fast too.

Those Vic sourced engine parts must work OK then?:yup:

Both me and the missus REALLY appreciate the SMS 5 minutes after we fell asleep last night :rolleyes:

[VooDoo]

Rhys: Ran with MT ET Streets and the 19's on the front. The 408 is definately a good thing.

Statie: Definately happy with those Vic sourced parts. Mark from PT was very impressed with the engine combo. At least it was when you were sleeping and not otherwise busy :)

[vxtreem]

Great result.
Glad to see you are happy with it.
How does it feel- N/A compared to the GEN-T?
Did all the work come under your 10k budget?

[VooDoo]

10k... lol. double that :(

i did sell the turbo and bits and pieces to recover the costs so it wasnt too far off the 10k in the end (hence HAD to sell the turbo)

[Momo]

Hey Voodoo wasnt it you who said to me that once you get your 408 ci running properly that you would have destroyed my 11.7@118mph passes that I did in my 346ci pissy little 222/224 setup. Yet I see you only ran 11.86 @116mph with monstrous bottom end cubes and a huge camshaft.

And here is another one of your quotes to me :

"A Head / Cam doing high 11's is pretty common place. It was back in 2003. Unopened cars are going faster these days. "

So considering I only spent like $4500 on my head/cam package and ran 11.7 and you spent $20,000, to run 11.8 and that me running 11's is pretty common place these days, according to you, even though there is about like 1 or 2 at most head/cam commodores running elevens at Willowbank then that must make your 11.86 the most pathetic out of all us considering the power you have and the money you have spent.

[VooDoo]

Momo: i think you have mistaken me for someone that cares about your opinions. Add 400kg to your car and come race. 2100kg race weight is a LOT different to 1600-1700kg commodores.

[Momo]

Well you must care about my opinion coz you bothered to respond. And big deal about your 400kg. 400kg is 800 pounds and every 100 pounds difference is 1/10 off your time. Surely the amount of power and torque coming from your massive bottom end and camshaft will easliy compensate for that.

[Martin_D]

Sounds like time for boost again Voo :)

[pro 346]

Hello Voodoo
My ute ran 11.60 @ 3960 pounds with stock valve heads, 222-224 cam and stock bottom end. This proves you have a long way to catch me and momo with your $20000 bottom end.
cheers LEIGH:moon:

[VooDoo]

Well you must care about my opinion coz you bothered to respond. And big deal about your 400kg. 400kg is 800 pounds and every 100 pounds difference is 1/10 off your time. Surely the amount of power and torque coming from your massive bottom end and camshaft will easliy compensate for that.


So my weight corrected time is a flat 11 then? You have some catching up to do it seems.

[Martin_D]

Hello Voodoo
My ute ran 11.60 @ 3960 pounds with stock valve heads, 222-224 cam and stock bottom end. This proves you have a long way to catch me and momo with your $20000 bottom end.
cheers LEIGH:moon:

Dont want to butt in here....but I was at GM Motorsport the other day and had my new VZ Maloo on the corner scales with +100lb of turbo kit on it and it weighed in at 3714lb with a FULL tank of gas....how you get 3960lb is beyond me.... :)

[Momo]

So my weight corrected time is a flat 11 then? You have some catching up to do it seems.


For $20,000 spent on an engine, you would want a lot more than a flat 11.

[Uncle Tone]

For $20,000 spent on an engine, you would want a lot more than a flat 11.

I reckon there might be a bit more to this engine than just flat-out track times.....bottom end torque and driveability while still being able to use a big cam being the main one:headbang:

[Momo]

I reckon there might be a bit more to this engine than just flat-out track times.....bottom end torque and driveability while still being able to use a big cam being the main one:headbang:

What are you on about ? Whether the car has driveability with a big cam or not and the majority of LS1/LS2 engines do, what has that got to do with track times?
So according to you, one spends $20,000 on an engine and even if it doesnt do a good time on the track, lets just worry about whether it is street driveable, then what is the point of spending all that money, when someone who runs a quicker time than you and still has driveability with smaller specs and way less money spent can outperform you ?

[HSV,_I_GOT_ONE]

Geeze voodoo you must have pissed some people off down at Willowbank:lol:

You dont see too many strokers getting super quick times unless their is an awesome driver peddling the car. I think the main problem would be traction with a stroker. Thats my semi-educated guess anyway. There is going to be a silly amount of torque with an even sillier amount of revs.

[KeenGolfer]

What are you on about ? Whether the car has driveability with a big cam or not and the majority of LS1/LS2 engines do, what has that got to do with track times?
So according to you, one spends $20,000 on an engine and even if it doesnt do a good time on the track, lets just worry about whether it is street driveable, then what is the point of spending all that money, when someone who runs a quicker time than you and still has driveability with smaller specs and way less money spent can outperform you ?

Track times are not the be-all and end-all of everything you know. There is also a bolt on car that's done low 11's. Does that mean that everyone else who hasn't run as fast has wasted their money? Of course not. Just because a car can run fast at the strip doesn't relate in any way to where you use the car 99% of the time - on the street. A 400+ cube stroker is awesome on the street, there is no comparison to a 346 - no matter what you've done to it.

[gollum]

H

So considering I only spent like $4500 on my head/cam package and ran 11.7 and you spent $20,000, to run 11.8 and that me running 11's is pretty common place these days, according to you, even though there is about like 1 or 2 at most head/cam commodores running elevens at Willowbank then that must make your 11.86 the most pathetic out of all us considering the power you have and the money you have spent.

$20,000 = 408 Iron Block stroker

$4,500 = Head + Cam ????? have i got this right ???

VooDoo gets the engine...............you get the head + cam !!!

[markone2]

For a shake down pass with 1,000Ks up on a brand new donk, restricted breathing and conservative tune ..I reckon the 11.8 pass was pretty damn good personally, I for one took the time to observe the run and watched while the car was *driven* off the line..imho I’d be looking at low 11’s next outing when this *stroker* has been prepped for the track……..

Leigh………..that’s a mighty fancy way you've picked up on of describing a H/C combo :bravo:
Quote *stock valve heads*…your spending way too much time studying ST’s handbook of advanced forum journalism :lmao:
My apologizes to the author…it was too hard too resist :)

Momo………..allowing applied mathematics was never my strongest subject at uni…I might need a little assistance …...…..40
- 25
= 05 :eek: .....I’ve carried over the ten point decimal, added the two……………but try as I might....I keep coming up with 15k ……........wot am I do’in wrong :errr:

Quote : *I have priced the car reasonably considering all that it has on it. No matter which way you look at it even if you were to go and buy a stock one at $25K and then do all the stuff to it that mine has got the car will owe you close to $40K.*

just once..just the one little post… only two words if need be ..but would it really be that hard, just for a one-off solidarity effort on your part to offer a fellow forum reader ...just the ever so slightest hint of encouragement on his hard earned endeavours……
a little forum etiquette goes a long way imho :)

[Chris5.7ltr]

Good to see the Barge is back in action Voodoo, make sure you post some vids up before you change that exhaust so we can all hear it.:D

[NickS]

Track times are not the be-all and end-all of everything you know. There is also a bolt on car that's done low 11's. Does that mean that everyone else who hasn't run as fast has wasted their money? Of course not. Just because a car can run fast at the strip doesn't relate in any way to where you use the car 99% of the time - on the street. A 400+ cube stroker is awesome on the street, there is no comparison to a 346 - no matter what you've done to it.
Well said Drew ... some members are way too focused on 1/4 mile times :rolleyes:

Doesn't Justice R8s car run 12's ??? Suppose he wasted all his money too ??? Try and take him with a few corners thrown in !!!

:flip2:

[VooDoo]

momo is just upset that he has gained no respect here from his little outbursts over the last few months. Ignore him and he will go back to that rock he crawled out from under.

[Martin_D]

Quote *stock valve heads*…your spending way too much time studying ST’s handbook of advanced forum journalism :lmao:
My apologizes to the author…it was too hard too resist :)

Sure it wasnt the the section I got you to write for me on "Full street Trim and Daily Drivers" capturing the authors hand on experience with "6000rpm stallies the pleasure the pain", and "2000rpm idling for fun and profit" :)
Looks a little like there are many that like to bend the reality to suit their own purposes :)

[markone2]

Sure it wasnt the the section I got you to write for me on "Full street Trim and Daily Drivers" capturing the authors hand on experience with "6000rpm stallies the pleasure the pain", and "2000rpm idling for fun and profit" :)
Looks a little like there are many that like to bend the reality to suit their own purposes :)


Tch tch St :lol: ..you ought to take the time out to fly up and sample the wares' of *M*s tuning...we can safely 1/2 the quoted idle....2500rpm around the burps not a worry :yup: .....a custom made PT 8" converter is a truly marvellous thing indeed…:bravo: ( so long as products of a petroleum nature are not high on the list of priorities :bawl: ) and indeed the *Full Street* is back in business with the car going out today at its full road going 1640Kg….making allowance for me extra light weight pursuit rims of course .....

It's been fun...but now I gotta run......for there's much racing to be done :driving:

[Martin_D]

All good fun....just make sure you dont bend it like Beckham :)

[OLS108]

MY GOD VooDoo Your car is Shit... a Barge Caprice running only a 11.8 on its First ever Run in its Stroked Setup ??? You Must be kidding :lol:

please Note Sarcasm

[seldo]

....
So considering I only spent like $4500 on my head/cam package and ran 11.7 and you spent $20,000....
There's a slight difference in going out and buying a new engine (since the other one was destroyed) then stroking it, compared with buying a new cam and having your heads modified.... While you were at it, it's a pity that you didn't get some work done on the main head that's sorely needing attention...

[STATIE]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Looks like you've got some jelous little "freinds" up there in moomoo land.

Wind the wick up on that big barge arse piece of sh!t and blow their green with envy doors off of their little play race cars.:yup:


What size stally have you got in it now?

[Uncle Tone]

What are you on about ? Whether the car has driveability with a big cam or not and the majority of LS1/LS2 engines do, what has that got to do with track times?
At least you half get my point.

So according to you, one spends $20,000 on an engine and even if it doesnt do a good time on the track, lets just worry about whether it is street driveable, then what is the point of spending all that money, when someone who runs a quicker time than you and still has driveability with smaller specs and way less money spent can outperform you ?
Would we be talking about the same model car here?

[Momo]

For a shake down pass with 1,000Ks up on a brand new donk, restricted breathing and conservative tune ..I reckon the 11.8 pass was pretty damn good personally, I for one took the time to observe the run and watched while the car was *driven* off the line..imho I’d be looking at low 11’s next outing when this *stroker* has been prepped for the track……..

Leigh………..that’s a mighty fancy way you've picked up on of describing a H/C combo :bravo:
Quote *stock valve heads*…your spending way too much time studying ST’s handbook of advanced forum journalism :lmao:
My apologizes to the author…it was too hard too resist :)

Momo………..allowing applied mathematics was never my strongest subject at uni…I might need a little assistance …...…..40
- 25
= 05 :eek: .....I’ve carried over the ten point decimal, added the two……………but try as I might....I keep coming up with 15k ……........wot am I do’in wrong :errr:

Quote : *I have priced the car reasonably considering all that it has on it. No matter which way you look at it even if you were to go and buy a stock one at $25K and then do all the stuff to it that mine has got the car will owe you close to $40K.*

just once..just the one little post… only two words if need be ..but would it really be that hard, just for a one-off solidarity effort on your part to offer a fellow forum reader ...just the ever so slightest hint of encouragement on his hard earned endeavours……
a little forum etiquette goes a long way imho :)


Thats 15K on the entire car, wheels, exhaust ,lowering, clutch, diff, etc etc of which 4,500 was motor enhancements unlike 20K just on the motor.

[pro 346]

Dont want to butt in here....but I was at GM Motorsport the other day and had my new VZ Maloo on the corner scales with +100lb of turbo kit on it and it weighed in at 3714lb with a FULL tank of gas....how you get 3960lb is beyond me.... :)

Thats how i race it with me in it 3960lb. its probably got 100lb of sterio in it
flounder oops i mean tuna and i weigh 113kg.:yup:
cheers leigh

[pro 346]

momo is just upset that he has gained no respect here from his little outbursts over the last few months. Ignore him and he will go back to that rock he crawled out from under.
Voodoo have you seen momo?! I think that rock you are talking about maybe ayres rock!!! :shiner: future portrait of voodoo:bravo:

[VooDoo]

It doesnt matter what he looks like. Respect is earned not assumed. His posts here are definately less than inspiring. If he chooses to resort to violence because he cant string together a decent post on an internet forum then he has the issues not me.

[RedVYIISS]

69QikUte, who gives a sh!t what momo looks like, and your keyboard is not the place to threaten Voodoo on behalf of Momo. Your post suggests that momo is a cretin who would resort to violence.

If I was Momo I'd take great offence to what you've said..... and I hope he does.

Momo hasn't covered himself in glory.... and he certainly doesn't need YOU to cover him in sh!t as well.

This is a place where we share knowledge, try it some time. Don't be frightened of it, a little knowledge can be useful sometimes.

[pro 346]

redvy11ss, I am not covering for momo hes a big enough boy to look after
himself. As for violence where did i mention it? i just posted a icon, like most members do after posting. lighten up !!! :bawl:

[seldo]

Thats how i race it with me in it 3960lb. its probably got 100lb of sterio in it
flounder oops i mean tuna and i weigh 113kg.:yup:
cheers leigh
I could have sworn Tuna was replying to Momo.........or are you one and the same....?..:shock: ....ooops...gotta remember which hat you are wearing at the time of the post....;)

[OLS108]

My God.... this thread has turned to Shit...

Back on Track ..
VooDoo what other Plans do you ahve for the Barge or is she Now 100% Complete ?

[Martin_D]

I could have sworn Tuna was replying to Momo.........or are you one and the same....?..:shock: ....ooops...gotta remember which hat you are wearing at the time of the post....;)

You might need to consider which head you are playing with too Seldo. ie let go of the little pink one that keeps spitting in your eye....would make a nice change :lmao:

[HRT Stroker]

Lets get this thread back on topic boys.

69QikUte, constructive posts are always welcome, alternatively there is always another forum better suited to your posting style.

Anymore shite in this thread and the boom will be lowered.