how to do a stand still

[Adsvxss]

Just wondering what the best way to do a 10 sec stand still then take off with foot flat.:burnout: My rear brakes wanna hold the revs down, release the brake a bit and just start moving forward.:( Is there any special tricks people do with 4 wheel disc brakes, old HQ with drums did it sweet.:D
Thanks

[Gareth@Willall]

If its an AUTO you should be able to brake and excelerate until it starts then add more throttle to get going then remove the brake...... Aint hard ;)

[SSBarney]

Just wondering what the best way to do a 10 sec stand still then take off with foot flat.:burnout: My rear brakes wanna hold the revs down, release the brake a bit and just start moving forward.:( Is there any special tricks people do with 4 wheel disc brakes, old HQ with drums did it sweet.:D
Thanks

U are probably putting ur feet on the brakes to heavy, stock stally, u can only expect to get between 1500 to 2000rpm before it starts to push u along.

[furys8]

Just wondering what the best way to do a 10 sec stand still then take off with foot flat.:burnout: My rear brakes wanna hold the revs down, release the brake a bit and just start moving forward.:( Is there any special tricks people do with 4 wheel disc brakes, old HQ with drums did it sweet.:D
Thanks
mate u say ur car has 220 rwk,well if u jump on the brake and hit the throttle it should be lighting the tyres up big time,if it aint then you aint got 220rwk.:o

[JA SV8]

I must admitt i have done two of these andthe rear brakes never been a problem.... its not something i will do again though as it scared the sh!t out of me when i took my foot of the brake!!!
In a manuel u left foot clutch, right foot brake and acclerate to 3 grand or so, then dump clutch and move left foot to brake.... then change into 2nd if ur game.....

[Fezz]

Car should be doing it easy, you must be applying too much brake.

I know mine smokes them hard for longer then 10 seconds then the fun part is angling it once you let the brake off. :burnout:

*Note* Don't practise this on the street, you'll probably kill someone or crash your car. ;)

[Angelo_XLR8]

sounds stupid but i had similar issues once
biggest hint is to have the Aircon OFF and fanspeed low
and yeah just ease on and off the brake (feather)
should have no troubles

[Nutter]

Turn off traction control.

[RED R8]

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Chuck us the keys I'll have a crack:evil:
Turn off traction control.

[vyssls1]

change diff gears and tighten lsd and just concentrate on doing donuts.

or just go Forced induction, and then your always trying to not smoke the tyres, thats even a harder challenge....

or you could always try this, leave in gear foot on brake, and then just smash the throttle this will give you a flash stall which is higher than a brake stall.

Good luck, do these acts on private property though..

[Nutter]

Guys a stock one would spin it if done right, dont think he needs to spen 10k on forced induction to spin come shitty 235 road tyres. Check the traction control button.

[brettarmst]

The monaro lights them up just fine and so does an old VN 308 I like to "play around" with, both are bog stock, take some time to think about what your doing and find yourself a nice big empty car park and I'm sure you'll be fine.

[Milzy]

I have a vx series 2 commodore and the only thing i can manage is sideways when i plant it turning right, i have tried a number of times to do a brake job and it wont spin, ive tried it in drive and ive tried it in 1st, ive played with the accelerator and brake and i still cant manage to get it spinning, reason for the number of times i have tried is i just wanna see it spinning once. any comments or ideas?

[Vulture]

If the car is not edited (assuming it is with over 200rwkw) then the torque management software will limit your ability to use throttle and brake at the same time. In the heat, with a stock car without edit, it can be surprisingly difficult to loose traction.

[Feenin_HSV]

haha i can't believe how hard some of you guys are making it sound out to be...im with Daz, Ads, where abouts in Vic are you, ill show you how in my car and then hand me the keys:stick:
My Sen Sig, manual...anytime i wanna do one, with the aircon on or off, hot or cold, no matter what it will do it....and no work has been done, yet:evil:
Brothers Clubby, auto...also no work done to it, lol in a heartbeat :burnout:
Just make sure the traction is off and have some fun in an open are, if still no luck, hand me the keys, or theres something wrong:limpy:

[SSBarney]

If the car is not edited (assuming it is with over 200rwkw) then the torque management software will limit your ability to use throttle and brake at the same time. In the heat, with a stock car without edit, it can be surprisingly difficult to loose traction.

Only torque management in his VX will be the traction control button, switch it off and away u go.

[Adsvxss]

Thanks for the replies, the car is edited and it was only done 1 1/2 weeks ago so still getting used to it. I only tried once and thinking back might have been applying too much brake. Will have to have another go. Has 308 gears and no stall. Will light em up taking off no worries, was just wanting to make more smoke. Thanks

[ReMiX]

If you simply want to do stand stills and nuts, Get yourself some line lockers.

clamp them over the rear brake lines and your away. You'll never have an issue with 'too much brake'. You can throw the car around and when ever you nail the brake you wont have any problems with your rear brakes and chewing your rear pads.

Remember though, You MUST remove the lockers once your finished havin fun. :yup:

[MICK_EZEKIEL]

Make sure you tell your fat friends sitting in the back to get out of the car first! :)

My VT only seems to do it easy in the wet... but then I dont try to do it in the dry... im too paranoid somthing will happen to the car... :errr:

[zozza]

unable to do a burnout in such a car, thats crazy talk. :confused:
some lesser cars might take a bit of effort to get spinning but certainly not 5.7 litres of grunt with an edit

if its an auto, u just gotta find the sweet spot on your brake. more fun is the manual where i prefer the heel and toe method. left foot dedicated to clutch for throwing it into second when u desire. with your right foot place your heel on the brake and your toe on the accelerator. the more horizontal u can get it the more control u will get.

apply only slight pressure on brake and get revs to 3000-3500 before popping clutch in first, then as it starts spinning place enough pressure on brake to just keep car stationary. with left foot free u can get to many a gear safely. PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT

but to prolong the life of any car minimal burnouts are recommended.

cheers

[vyssls1]

but to prolong the life of any car minimal burnouts are recommended.




are you sure about that (lol), i remember a ford going out to the burnout comps over here, brand new car, blew the diff in the event, car wasnt covered by warrenty.

and what makes it better it wasnt even his car, it was his dads car, and he borrowed it when his oldies were away on holiday.

[vyssls1]

Thanks for the replies, the car is edited and it was only done 1 1/2 weeks ago so still getting used to it. I only tried once and thinking back might have been applying too much brake. Will have to have another go. Has 308 gears and no stall. Will light em up taking off no worries, was just wanting to make more smoke. Thanks


anyway, have you tryed yet. and how did you go.

[Milzy]

So i have no chance in doing it in my 3.8l V6 as it has no traction control button, the only button it has is a power button and while im on the topic of that what does the power button do, what are the positives and negatives about it, and i always see v8 owners driving the car in 3rd gear and not in drive sayings its better for the car and not stating reasons, what happening there?

[MICK_EZEKIEL]

So i have no chance in doing it in my 3.8l V6 as it has no traction control button, the only button it has is a power button and while im on the topic of that what does the power button do, what are the positives and negatives about it, and i always see v8 owners driving the car in 3rd gear and not in drive sayings its better for the car and not stating reasons, what happening there?

I thought the power button just delayed the gear changes so it changed when the revs were higher then "ECON" mode...

I've heard that people drive in 3rd in the city for a bit more power... I noticed mine is a bit better in 3rd in stop start traffic and low speeds as it stops it from changing to 4th and then back to 3rd when i accalerate etc... Apparently this was only better for the VTII as the transmissions didnt have adaptive shift or somthing... im not sure if thats true though...

[all4ford]

I thought the power button just delayed the gear changes so it changed when the revs were higher then "ECON" mode...

I've heard that people drive in 3rd in the city for a bit more power... I noticed mine is a bit better in 3rd in stop start traffic and low speeds as it stops it from changing to 4th and then back to 3rd when i accalerate etc... Apparently this was only better for the VTII as the transmissions didnt have adaptive shift or somthing... im not sure if thats true though...
I agree.
The power button in some cars isnt as noticable as others. For example using the power button in my 96 or 98?? holden rodeo, it helps for it to slow down a lot better as well as making it a bit more responsive. This is because it wont upshift from 2nd into 3rd, this means that it also uses compression breaking like you would in a manual to slow down, but not to the same degree as a manual. However, the power button in my AU 6, does pretty much stuff all. I can not feel any difference when I have it on or off.

So in other words go try it out.:burnout:

[Adsvxss]

Thanks for the replies, sorted it out today. Went back to the tuner to make sure torque management was off, it was. So handed him the keys and went for a spin :burnout: He put power on and trac off then SELECTED 1ST :idea: instead of leaving in 3rd and the gearbox will upshift and will bog down, anyway definately no probs doing a stand still :thumbsup: . Was tstill smelling burning rubber on 15 min drive home.

[Nutter]

I agree.
The power button in some cars isnt as noticable as others. For example using the power button in my 96 or 98?? holden rodeo, it helps for it to slow down a lot better as well as making it a bit more responsive. This is because it wont upshift from 2nd into 3rd, this means that it also uses compression breaking like you would in a manual to slow down, but not to the same degree as a manual. However, the power button in my AU 6, does pretty much stuff all. I can not feel any difference when I have it on or off.

So in other words go try it out.:burnout:

On the ford especially the AU it will make kickdown much more sensative, so for example if your doing 60 in 4th with econ on you may need 1/4 throttle to kick it back to 3rd, in power mode at the same speed pretty much touching the pedal will take it back to 3rd.

If you full throttle most cars they shift at redline in both power and econ modes, but the shifts are sometimes tighter in power mode.

As for being better for the car, it basically can keep trasnmission temps down at low speeds by not labouring them, more important with heavy loads or trailers, but with most electronic autos there pretty good at getting the right gear under normal driving conditions.

[an-D]

gen III with an edit and cant do a stand still ?!?!
the old mans SS stock lights them up easily, auto aswell.

my wagon can do standstills and its a 3.8l stocky... at times.

INDCLB, try removing the ABS Fuse under the bonnet. turn the wheels to the left a bit and gun her!

[ReMiX]

but to prolong the life of any car minimal burnouts are recommended.


Not true, A mate here in Kalgoorlie has a Silver VY Tonner (5.7,M6) and it was in its first burnout comp with 3000km on the clock.. He's since been to MotorVation Twice, Narrogin RevHeads three times and this weekend will be his second run at Burnout Kings (arguably Australias biggest burnout comp) and its got a tune, an exhaust, Kosteci cold air, Leads and Underdrives.. He starts his burnouts in 3rd and can hold 4th doing nuts. Yes, he is talented and yes the tonner is abit of a freak .. but its put up with the abuse beautifully.

He's had a steering pump replaced under warranty (Thanks to his missus doing skids in it, rev limiter and full lock) and a diff replacement .. And it certainly isnt one of the many oil burning Gen3's around .. :D

[jneil]

Thanks for the replies, sorted it out today. Went back to the tuner to make sure torque management was off, it was. So handed him the keys and went for a spin :burnout: He put power on and trac off then SELECTED 1ST :idea: instead of leaving in 3rd and the gearbox will upshift and will bog down, anyway definately no probs doing a stand still :thumbsup: . Was tstill smelling burning rubber on 15 min drive home.

I could be wrong, but I don't think selecting 1st would make any difference. You'll find it will automatically jump to 2nd anyway when it hits red line (unless they can turn that off with the edit?).

And the PWR button would make no difference to the amount power, just alters the gear changes/points.

My VR V6 Auto used to be able to smoke them no issue, but that had a straight axle, LSD and was a lot lighter than the VT onwards.

Even with a bog stock VYII Calais with no mods AT ALL, torque management on, traction off, you can still get it to spin...at only about 2000rpm :lmao: It just will not rev higher.

[CV8-RO]

INDCLUB, The 3.8 is very difficult to do in the dry unless you're on gravel, but in the wet should do it.

[vx_clubby]

are you sure about that (lol), i remember a ford going out to the burnout comps over here, brand new car, blew the diff in the event, car wasnt covered by warrenty.

and what makes it better it wasnt even his car, it was his dads car, and he borrowed it when his oldies were away on holiday.

LOL I watched that too, was a brand new one :P Marone coloured.
Poor bugga

[Jphdg]

INDCLUB, The 3.8 is very difficult to do in the dry unless you're on gravel, but in the wet should do it.

Not if it is Non-LSD :p Friend did it in a V6 VR till it stunk bad and filled the air with pugnant burnt rubber. :lol:

Any LS1 should = :burnout: