Trading Up (Down) to a VZ SV6

[Ako]

Guys

Just after some opinions. I am thinking of trading up (or down depending on what way you look at it) to a VZ SV6 or something equivilant.

Don't get me wrong, love the Clubby and the LS1 is fantastic, but personal circumstances have changed and for a while a V6 would be beneficial.

What kind of dollars would everyone think I would be looking at for the changeover?

Would a near clean swap be an option? My clubby is standard (albiet with the R8 mags on it) with 80,000 klms on it.

I really would like the VZ SV6 with the 6 speed box.

Opinions guys? And be brutal......I can take it.....:karate:

[Nutter]

If its fuel prices scaring you, you dont have a choice...any other reason I would keep the clubby.

[SS_Fury]

Guys

Just after some opinions. I am thinking of trading up (or down depending on what way you look at it) to a VZ SV6 or something equivilant.

Don't get me wrong, love the Clubby and the LS1 is fantastic, but personal circumstances have changed and for a while a V6 would be beneficial.

What kind of dollars would everyone think I would be looking at for the changeover?

Would a near clean swap be an option? My clubby is standard (albiet with the R8 mags on it) with 80,000 klms on it.

I really would like the VZ SV6 with the 6 speed box.

Opinions guys? And be brutal......I can take it.....:karate:

have you thought of a new SVZ? 32k drive away, if you had to pay more you wouldnt be paying too much. OR you could sell it privately, it hasnt been molested so someone would buy it.
The sv6's are ok, very tall gearing - i dunno i just like the look of the new svz, leather an all and its brand new. Getting rid of the clubby, ouch :errr:

[747]

I hate to say but I think you might be looking at paying on a dealer trade-in. I would be trying to sell privately first

[Ako]

If its fuel prices scaring you, you dont have a choice...any other reason I would keep the clubby.

Not really the main reason. Just a few things. I would like to get a car with Warranty so there won't be any nasty surprises for the next couple of years.

I figure if I do it now, it may only cost a couple of thou....

[RED R8]

Not really the main reason. Just a few things. I would like to get a car with Warranty so there won't be any nasty surprises for the next couple of years.

I figure if I do it now, it may only cost a couple of thou....
A couple of thou on the change over then a couple of thou on stamp duty etc take that 4 grand and bank it incase something (highly unlikely) goes wrong with your clubby.Your HSV will also hold better resale and after 6 months you WILL suffer V8 withdrawls.:teach:

[spuddamonaro]

A couple of thou on the change over then a couple of thou on stamp duty etc take that 4 grand and bank it incase something (highly unlikely) goes wrong with your clubby.Your HSV will also hold better resale and after 6 months you WILL suffer V8 withdrawls.:teach:

well said!! sumed up perfectly!

[PAN]

We have a vz sv6 (auto) in the garage which i usually drive during the evenings. Fairly nice car to drive, obviously doesnt have the same grunt as the ss, but quite smooth and easy on the petrol aswell.

Has been driven hard since new and with around 4kkms on it now, hasnt had any dramas :woohoo:

[Drewie]

I think if you get a trade-in valuation on the Clubby your mind will be made up. Have a look at the Carsales Redbook Valuations, 2002 6-speed VXII Clubsport, trade-in valuation $20,300 to $22,500, so you would need to put more than a couple of thou into the deal, not worth it hang onto what you have. In the long run will end up worth more anyway.

[Devil CV8]

We have a vz sv6 (auto) in the garage which i usually drive during the evenings. Fairly nice car to drive, obviously doesnt have the same grunt as the ss, but quite smooth and easy on the petrol aswell.

Has been driven hard since new and with around 4kkms on it now, hasnt had any dramas :woohoo:
have to agree, not a bad car, just doesn't have the same grunt of the SS.


Done 27,000km since end of feb this year.. (love the fuel card)

[02vxss]

sv6's are a nice car, personally i would get a 2nd hand one, as heaps were purchased (fleet e.t.c), i've seen late 05 models in the yards anywhere between 28-32, which most of these only had 10-15kays on them. i cant see the value in paying 38-41 for a new one. you'll probably only get 20-22 for trade in on yours, so you will be looking at least 8-10g on a 2nd hand one. that money can buy a whole heap of fuel, while still enjoying the clubby...

[PJK]

Hi Ako

I've made a similar move recently going from an VX SS to M6 SV6 and have a few comments for you.

Overall the SV6 is a great car to drive but,I do miss the grunt of the GEN3 though. They do need to be driven with more rpm, but mine doesn't seem to mind :D and fuel economy doesn't suffer too much either. I get about 480-500km per tank and a little bit more on premium.

One negative point is that there is a distinct lack of torque below about 1500rpm, but I don't know if thats the engine or the electronic throttle though.

Some have said the gearing is very tall (2.87 diff), but don't forget that the gearbox ratios are completely different to that used in the V8 models - The net affect is that you have 6 reasonably spaced gears, not 5 + 1 useless overdrive. The gearbox has a nice shift action - very easy to live with. Also the back will step out a bit on a quick 1-2 change with plenty of revs on board.

Handling wise they are fairly competent but sometimes it feels a bit light in the rear end as it tends to lift and wander a bit on heavy braking. That said, handling is easily on par with the VX SS if not a bit better.

The interior is a nice change from the VT/VX but I would recommend the 6 stacker CD for convenience.

Overall though they are a good car for day to day transport with enough ability to have some fun when needed

Regards
PJK

[Ako]

sv6's are a nice car, personally i would get a 2nd hand one, as heaps were purchased (fleet e.t.c), i've seen late 05 models in the yards anywhere between 28-32, which most of these only had 10-15kays on them. i cant see the value in paying 38-41 for a new one. you'll probably only get 20-22 for trade in on yours, so you will be looking at least 8-10g on a 2nd hand one. that money can buy a whole heap of fuel, while still enjoying the clubby...

If I was to do it, the I would be looking at a second hand one like you are describing above. Although with all these comments and the more I think about it, I might be keeping my baby.

I might just let the missus drive it during the week. Better fuel economy that way. No matter how much I try to drive it "properly" (as the old man puts it) I always tent to blat it now and then.

Cheers for the comments guys.

[nicholasjoe]

if i was going to buy another commodore, i would be waiting for the VE to be released, watch the prices plummet!!

[Swordie]

Have you considered the Ford with a 6 speed auto? There seems to be a few tweaks for the Barra to get a bit more power. The Ford 6 runs well on LPG if fuel prices are a concern.

[HSVREDSLED]

Brutal honesty? Ok here goes.....

Do your sums.

Most people factor in the 'simple' dollar costs involved in such an exercise.
These include depreciation, stamp duty and other changover costs. Personally, I think the petrol costs will be bugger all.

However. Put a dollar value on these costs.

1. You are currently driving one of the best looking HSV models produced.
Your ride will still turn heads, you still will think of overtaking as a breeze rather than a chore, and generally enjoy the benefits of V8 driving
How much it is worth to downgrade?

2. How much is it worth for the hassle of trying to sell your current car and other changeover issues. And for what? In 3 years time, the VE will be out
and your SV6 will be worth less than you HSV. Even if (in best case scenario) they are worth the same, you have lost money in changeover costs and you have lost three years of your life in driving a sv6 instead of the V8.

Totally up to you....but do the sums taking into account ALL the circumstances.

You only live once.......

very sorry if I have confused the isssue......

[LSONE]

You could get out the clubby and into an sv6 for about $6k c/over driveaway. Good luck

[RED R8]

The Tribe has spoken................The clubby stays.

[Ako]

The SV6 Torch has been estinguished......:headbang:



Now, for that edit........:stick:

[BEN 189]

I sold my modded VX SS for a 6 cylinder in order to save money but i regret it so much. I miss it dearly. In saying that though, i do enjoy the cheaper running costs and warranty BUT i wish i didnt sell the SS. Keep the clubby.

[ADSXR8]

See if you can get a drive of one from the local dealer, evaluate yourself.

I have a SV6 A5 for a company car, and they do their business pretty good. I own a BF F6, so when I floor the SV6, I'm looking to see if the handbrake is on. Other than performance, I dont mind it at all.

Unlike PJK, I get very close to 700km per tank, using just under 10litres per 100 consistantly. Excellent ecomony from a 190kw car. Easy to drive and the 5spd auto is quite responsive and doesn't seem to be looking for gears. They also do lack a little torque under 1500-2000rpm, but just over that, they hold speed quite well on inclines etc.

Go see if you can have a drive yourself.

Good luck

[cutter bob]

take it from expreiance...keep the clubbie, i've been down this path before and it was not pretty. i had a 5lt VT and sold it for a new turbo astra..... 8 months later i was back at holden buying a xv ss. ended up costing me thousands of dollars extra but i just couldn't stand not being in a v8, even my girlfriend was saying by the end of it "just go and get yourself another v8" and it was her idea to sell the last one

[Merlin]

Is this because of fuel prices, if so:

An SV6 is still a big, relativley heavy 6cyl, you are not going to make any massive savings on fuel over a GEN3. Been there done that - you would really need to go to a 4 cyl if fuel is a concern.

You could always go LPG - Sequential Vapour Injection (SVI?) is on the market installed for $3K, claims no power loss.

[VY2ENJOY]

Mate SV6's are really starting to drop their price so changing over now would be a mistake, my father in law has a 2005 model SV6 5auto and a few options, sure it gets great fuel economy when he drives it (average 550 k's to a tank) and I drove it to Summernats this year with a mate and averaged 8.1 L/100ks for the whole trip (Perth to Canberra), but all that said and done it has 16000 k's on it and he hasnt had any better offers than $24000 for it!, as someone said all the lease companys have flooded the market with them and killed the resale price, keep the clubby dude and buy a $500 POS to drive to work in or ride a bike.

[Aus8]

SV6 is a big let down. I would stay away personally.

[magvz]

driven both and do yourself a favour keep the 8 never go backwards.
you will regreat it

[steen]

SV6 is a big let down. I would stay away personally.
Heh, depends on what you're used to driving... :)

I've got a BF XR6 A6 & find the missus' SV6 A5 a snappier car. Bottom-end is light, but I recon it's the electronic throttle calibration. It always takes a few mins to settle into the way it launches. I came back from a trip where I had a BMW 530 & both seemed average.

The SV6 was picked up in large numbers by fleets & courtesy of GM's generous Nov-Dec price cut on 05 models, effectively trashed the resale price. I'd wait for the VE & pick up a low kms car even cheaper.