Redback, Xforce or Super Cat?

[ezyb]

Hi guys

Just wanna know if anyone has any of the above systems in their car and what they think of em?

Anyone else can just add which they think is the best?

Thanks guys.

[hogs]

Evening,

Go to the Technical LS1 section and there is a Stickey which covers this and a whole range of other tech Q's.

Cheers,

Hogs.

[scottb231182]

hey ezyb, personally I wouldn't touch any of them. In my opinion, Sureflo or Difilippo are the only options worth considering ;)

[subtle]

hi ezyb ive got a redback 2.5 inch cat back system.its not too bad if ur got a tight buget but if u have the money go for the difilipo or sureflo system ,better quality and better off in the long run.also are u looking too get it tuned as well coz i think it will make a huge diffrence.

cheers scotty.

[ezyb]

hi ezyb ive got a redback 2.5 inch cat back system.its not too bad if ur got a tight buget but if u have the money go for the difilipo or sureflo system ,better quality and better off in the long run.also are u looking too get it tuned as well coz i think it will make a huge diffrence.

cheers scotty.

Hey Scotty

Thanks for your feedback.
Do you have extractors on urs aswell?

Yeh i might get an LS1 edit done down the rd as funds are limited.

[Dutch]

I have a Super cat system, which I bought as a replacement for a Sureflo system. It's O.K. does the job. At cruising speeds it tends to drone a bit, however it does make good power, unlike the other one.

[Sonnymad]

I have a Super cat system, which I bought as a replacement for a Sureflo system. It's O.K. does the job. At cruising speeds it tends to drone a bit, however it does make good power, unlike the other one.

Can you elaborate bit more please...


regards sonny

[subtle]

Hey ezyb

no i dont have extractors on mine yet but am getting some soon ,not sure which type.il also get an edit done then aswell. maybe look at intake aswell.

o well more money gone :)

cheers scotty

[Stevotski]

A freind just put a full stainless x-force system on his monaro - the build quality looked great (welds inside extractor cones was ground flush for good flow etc)

Has made a huge difference in low/midrange, and the car hasn't had a tune yet

it is however not at the cheaper end of systems

[SS_Fury]

i agree, x-force tends to get the thumbs up...redbacks alright too, for those on the budget...supercat i wouldnt bother with, made in asia shite.

I got a twin 2.5" sureflo on mine, only made 6rwkw but smoothed out the torque curve - before it was staggered and the power was a bit all over the place. I had a quiet system put on, which is indeed quiet until you nail it - and with a modded k & n air charger kit, its louder when at WOT

I hear Difflipo make good systems also. Up to you mate, Difiilip or Sureflo if you can afford it. X-force are goodf as stated, redback not so bad either, but leave the supercat alone. They are a bit cheapishly made and are a bit dodgy

[cosmo vyss]

di fillipo system is the best system available imo, although a little expensive . If on a budget then redback wouild be the way to go.
jb

[VooDoo]

Ask this 10 times in 10 places and get 100 different opinions.

Personally i found the Sureflow system i have and others ive seen to be the best quality and made good power. The old redback system was off-the-shelf junk.

[ezyb]

Cheers guys

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

I hear Xforce is made here but the labour is done in asia. Can anyone confirm that?

I hear Difillippo are great...any places in victoria where they fit em?

Cheers guys

[Wonky]

Don't know where you are but am sure G&D (sponsor) can supply and fit Di Filippo. Probably other places around too.

[Sonnymad]

Cheers guys

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

I hear Xforce is made here but the labour is done in asia. Can anyone confirm that?

I hear Difillippo are great...any places in victoria where they fit em?

Cheers guys

Di fillipo them selves are located in melb (03)97470747 ,i belive they do fit on their pramises

regards sonny

[scottb231182]

Hey ezyb,

Give G&D performance in Cranbourne a call. They did my Difilippo system, and their service was second to none.

Cheers,

Scott

[Sonnymad]

Ask this 10 times in 10 places and get 100 different opinions.

Personally i found the Sureflow system i have and others ive seen to be the best quality and made good power. The old redback system was off-the-shelf junk.

Stu ,

Out of curiosity,who fitted ur redback system ?


regards sonny

[ezyb]

Hey ezyb,

Give G&D performance in Cranbourne a call. They did my Difilippo system, and their service was second to none.

Cheers,

Scott

Cheers mate.

Will do.

[vyssbeast]

Depending on which end of town you live, you have two options...
if you live closer to the western suburbs go to difillipo themselvs located in melton (i got them to fit my system)
or if you live on the other end probably easier for you to go G&D ...
makes no difference just whatever is easier, they are your options ...

[DUCKMAN]

Di Filippo is the way to go. If you cant afford it now save up a bit longer otherwise you will have to spend twice on an exhaust system.

[ezyb]

Cheers guys.

Another quick question guys.

Do you reakon i should get hi flow cats or get the standard ones bashed out?

[MNR-0]

Yeah. But make sure they are the 200 cells/sq. in. type - or you are wasting your time. Oh, and go stainless - like the spun magnaflow ones with 4-5" bodies. If you wont go to that extreme, its not worth changing your stock ones so just get them opened up.

[toxica]

Yeh Ezyb, My first mod to my VY was a Redback system.. try-y into 2.5 strait mufflers and no back muff and it sounds hot and “felt” to have better bottom end and top end not change in mid range.. and for $1800 installed not to bad I think!

[VooDoo]

Stu ,

Out of curiosity,who fitted ur redback system ?


regards sonny

Originally done by Noizworx up here in QLD long before i knew what an edit was. It made ok power for an off the shelf system (241rwkw on a PT dyno day) but the merge was very bad, i never liked the sound and it wore out after 18 mths. The new twin 3" i got was supposed to be to big on a cam only car but i was planning the turbo back then, first run with the new exhaust still cam only picked up .15sec at the track and got me a PB. That was the only change to the setup and the exhaust weighed a lot more than the redback too.

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Old-zorst/dscn2286.sized.jpg

[dyno junkie]

Cheers guys

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

I hear Xforce is made here but the labour is done in asia. Can anyone confirm that?

I hear Difillippo are great...any places in victoria where they fit em?

Cheers guys

X Force is well made, but it is definately manufactured in Asia.

Most of the exhaust tubing available in Australia is in imperial - ie. 2",2 1/4", 2 1/2", 3" etc.

Most Asian exhaust tubing is metric - ie. 60mm, 70mm, 80mm, 90mm etc.

[Shiman]

I have an Xforce twin 2.5" system with pacemaker triway extractors. I noticed a performance increase (yet to put it on a dyno).
The sound is exactly what I wanted (No drone at all on the freeway, but a loud and deep grunty V8 tone when you give it a bit of kick)

About a month ago my brother went for a redback system in his VX clubby, took it back the next weekend because it sounded horrible and he "claimed" to have lost power. He got it replaced for an Xforce system and has been happy ever since. (Altough the tone is different to mine because he still has his factory HSV extractors)

[RED R8]

X Force is well made, but it is definately manufactured in Asia.

Most of the exhaust tubing available in Australia is in imperial - ie. 2",2 1/4", 2 1/2", 3" etc.

Most Asian exhaust tubing is metric - ie. 60mm, 70mm, 80mm, 90mm etc.
I also have twin 2.5 X-force and was told it was Asian manufactured but I am more than happy with it sounds noooice.

[ezyb]

I have an Xforce twin 2.5" system with pacemaker triway extractors. I noticed a performance increase (yet to put it on a dyno).
The sound is exactly what I wanted (No drone at all on the freeway, but a loud and deep grunty V8 tone when you give it a bit of kick)

About a month ago my brother went for a redback system in his VX clubby, took it back the next weekend because it sounded horrible and he "claimed" to have lost power. He got it replaced for an Xforce system and has been happy ever since. (Altough the tone is different to mine because he still has his factory HSV extractors)

Hey champ

Do you have a video or sound clip of your car? really interested to hear how it sounds.

Where did you get ur system done? how much with extractors?

Cheers guys.

[ezyb]

I also have twin 2.5 X-force and was told it was Asian manufactured but I am more than happy with it sounds noooice.

Hey champ

Where did you get your system done? how much did it cost?

Havew you got a sound clipof ur car?

cheers.

[VT GEN3]

I have the X-force 2.5inch twin system with 4-1 headers as well. Sounds awesome, what drone? Punches harder, cheap too. enough said.

[ezyb]

I have the X-force 2.5inch twin system with 4-1 headers as well. Sounds awesome, what drone? Punches harder, cheap too. enough said.

Hey champ

Thats great, how much did it set you back with extractors? where did you get it done?

Do you have any sound clips of it?

Cheers mate.

[Stevotski]

I have the X-force 2.5inch twin system with 4-1 headers as well. Sounds awesome, what drone? Punches harder, cheap too. enough said.

Same with my mates monoaro - you wouldn't know the system is there unless your foot is down and just a quiet burble when cruising at 100-110. As far as sound is concerned, I would describe it as the perfect system - meaty when you are under it, but quiet on the cruise.

ezyb: I will ask him tommorrow exactly how much $ he paid - he also got new high flow cats so that added a fair bit to it

[RED R8]

Hey champ

Where did you get your system done? how much did it cost?

Havew you got a sound clipof ur car?

cheers.
A mates workshop in perth did mine I think I paid $650 ish then I had the resinator removed as I wanted it louder If you put (My ss vid longer version) in the search box you can have a listen to mine getting driven hard I also have HSV extractors.

[ezyb]

Same with my mates monoaro - you wouldn't know the system is there unless your foot is down and just a quiet burble when cruising at 100-110. As far as sound is concerned, I would describe it as the perfect system - meaty when you are under it, but quiet on the cruise.

ezyb: I will ask him tommorrow exactly how much $ he paid - he also got new high flow cats so that added a fair bit to it

Cheers mate.

[ezyb]

A mates workshop in perth did mine I think I paid $650 ish then I had the resinator removed as I wanted it louder If you put (My ss vid longer version) in the search box you can have a listen to mine getting driven hard I also have HSV extractors.

Hey champ

Tried doing a search but couldnt find it...could you forward me the link.

Thanks mate

[cutter bob]

I have an x-force 2.5inch twin system and hurricane try-y extractors. Sounds orsm, goes hard and after sonny worked his magic, the car is punching out 240 rwkw’s

Not to bad for a bolt on only car.

[ezyb]

I have an x-force 2.5inch twin system and hurricane try-y extractors. Sounds orsm, goes hard and after sonny worked his magic, the car is punching out 240 rwkw’s

Not to bad for a bolt on only car.

Hey champ

thats great, alot ppl have been telling me they are happy with Xforce.

Do you have any videos or sound files of your car?

Cheers mate

[cutter bob]

i dont at the moment, but i'm sure i could arrange something.

[RED R8]

Video is here http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...=newls1vid.flv

[ezyb]

Video is here http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...=newls1vid.flv

Sorry champ the link didnt work.

Could you send the file to my email?

[phunky_monkey]

who are the distributors for X-force in AUS, preferably melbourne??

[ezyb]

who are the distributors for X-force in AUS, preferably melbourne??

I'd say so. But dont quote me on it.

[Shiman]

Hey champ

Do you have a video or sound clip of your car? really interested to hear how it sounds.

Where did you get ur system done? how much with extractors?

Cheers guys.

I will take a video of the exhaust for you this weekend
supply and fit Extractors and exhaust including chrome tips were done mates rates prices for $1000 from Flexifit Exhausts in Hoppers Crossing. If you live in the west PM me and I can probably get you a cheap deal like that.

-Simon

[RED R8]

Try this link.

http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/Dazvyss/?action=view&current=newls1vid.flv

[Shiman]

Yeah that video works...

[vyssbeast]

good to see your diff doesnt single out ... lol love that vid your car sounds awesome and that driving!! :bow:

[ezyb]

I will take a video of the exhaust for you this weekend
supply and fit Extractors and exhaust including chrome tips were done mates rates prices for $1000 from Flexifit Exhausts in Hoppers Crossing. If you live in the west PM me and I can probably get you a cheap deal like that.

-Simon

That would be awesome.

wow $1000! can you email me your number.

btrpenovski@hotmail.com

Cheers man

[ezyb]

Try this link.

http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/Dazvyss/?action=view&current=newls1vid.flv

Sounds awesome man.

P.S nice driving.

[Shiman]

How did you go with your exhaust?

-Simon

[ezyb]

How did you go with your exhaust?

-Simon

Hey champ

Could not be happier with it.

Car is a pleasure to drive now.

Thanks alot Simon.

[Shiman]

Good stuff...much better to drive when they sound like they should isn't it?

Exhaust+headers was the first mod I did, couldn't stand the V6 sounding GenIII

:)

-Simon

[smutster]

I love my Xforce 2 1/4 on my Calais auto. The system is a catback stainless and the sound is great with no drone. If you have the manual go the 2 1/2. I was impressed with the sound and an increase in midrange power.

Cheers

Matt

[mickeyVX350]

I gort a supercat... hated the ESA. I liked the mild sound of the SUpercat, it sounded a little more "sophisticated" than the other 2 (I had on other G3's). I have opened cats and HSV 4-1 Extractors. The extractors calmed the drone, as did an old doona cover under the boot liner

I pulled 204RWKW with those mods (and mod intake)