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VooDoo
20-06-2006, 10:19 PM
Blatently stolen from the net, I'd never heard of it but its pretty cool.

http://www.canberratoranaclub.com/history/images/ucslt/ucslt4.jpg

http://www.canberratoranaclub.com/history/images/ucslt/ucslt3.jpg

More images here http://www.canberratoranaclub.com/history/ucslt.htm

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Here's an article I found on the web about the incredibly rare UC SL/T turbo model, faster than an A9X to 100km/h.. they say.



Holden took the LX and gave it a heavily revised front end appearance and some reworking at the rear to come up with the UC Torana in March 1978. That was the good news. The bad news was the dropping of the V8 engine. Though it was obviously secret at the time, Holden was planning to release the Commodore just six months later, and it came with V8 options. Many street machiner has overcome the problem by installing a V8. As mentioned, the carryover of the rear floor plan from the A9X means that a large Salisbury diff can be fitted at the same time. The stock diff was the newly introduced small Salisbury. Holden offered four wheel disc's as an option on the UC and it makes sence to buy one with that stopping system even if your not planning the diff conversion.

As well as the reworked exterior, the interior received a full network with less utalitarian dash than what was sold in the LH and LX. Most manual cars came with a four speed floor change gear box, although some base Torana S cars came with a three speed column change.

The sedans originally came as Torana S or SL, a Torana Deluxe joining the range later as an option on the SL. The hatches came as SL and SL/E and again you could specify an SL Deluxe. The four cylinder cars were again called sunbird. They used an Australian designed cour from mid 1978. It was virtually a 2850 six with two few cylinders lopped off and was almost as bad an engine as the unloved Opel four...

There was also sports UC released called the SL/T standing for Sports Luxury/Turbo. This was a 6 cylinder Turbo that was able to beat the LX A9X V8 from 0 - 100 km/h and on the quarter mile. The only place that the SL/T was lacking was the take off where the V8 had the power at lower range of rev's and the SL/T stuggled slightly. If this has taken you interest read on as I have a personal account of a fellow Torana nut about his SL/T. He contacted me with some great detailed info on this model which has been much of a mystery to the majority of the Torana community for many years.

I quote from the info that he kindly forwarded to me:
"The UC Torana SL/T option. I've owned one since 1979. They were never produced as an official GM-H model, but were a factory sanctioned modification by Normalair-Garrett Manufacturing in Melbourne, and had full warranty and full emission gear. Essentially they were pre-production prototypes of a car with would most likely have been a factory option if the Torana had not been cancelled.

All you needed was factory ordered UC with a 3.3 litre (red motor) optioned with M20 gearbox, GU4 (3.08) or the 2.73 diff, 4 wheel disc brakes, and heavy duty radiator. The cars went straight from GMH to the NGM mini-assembly line. The SL Hatchback I ordered with no options except the mandatory items for the turbo installation, a LH external mirror, a SL/R style GMH sports steering wheel, and rust-proofing cost $7800, and the turbo modifications added another $2000 to the price. NGM handled the warranty on the drive train, and GMH handled warranty on everything else. Most of them were ordered through Sutton Motors in Sydney, but mine came through Zupps in Brisbane. Extra tire/wheel choices and aftermarket bodywork kits were also offered by NGM.

A delay in manufacture of my car by Holden due to a backlog of orders and then the Christmas shutdown, and a decision to re-engineer the turbocharger package, resulted in the time period from ordering at the dealer to delivery being just under 10 months. The previous installation had shown deficiencies, and the revised installation needed new parts and castings to be fabricated. My car sat in their factory for months while the new parts were designed. Years later, I was shown photographs of the process of the turbocharger installation on my car, as it was the first of the new series, and became the benchmark installation for other companies installing the same turbocharger kit installation.

The NGM "Strata 2a" installation kit consisted of an AirResearch T04B turbo with a wastegate set to 12-13 psi (achieved at 2100 RPM under full load) drawing through a modified 1.75" SU carburettor. A larger fuel line and fuel pump were fitted. Except for a drop in compression ratio to 7.5:1, achieved by a spacer between the head and block, the internals of the engine were untouched.

The modifications gave roughly 80% increase on stock power. They would out run an A9X to 100 km/hr, keep up with an XU-1 in the 1/4 mile, and mine was still accelerating at the stock red motor redline (i.e. valve bounce) in top gear at 210 km/hr. If you kept the stock wheels and hub-caps, and didn't fit any fibreglass body add-ons, the only give-away was a 2.5 inch exhaust pipe. I have heard of one that was fitted with Sunbird badges, hub-caps, and exterior trim.

The cars were certainly not fully developed and were a maintenance nightmare.

The stock manifold gasket couldn't take the boost, and was a major job to replace. I made a custom set of modified spanners and allen keys to remove the manifold nuts and studs. It's easier to replace the manifold gasket if you pull all the studs, slightly separate the manifolds from the head enough to remove and replace the gasket and then put the studs back in. Until I had a quick disconnect fitting fitted into the exhaust pipe where it curves under the firewall, it was easier to replace the starter motor by removing the gearbox and bellhousing than it was to remove the manifolds and turbo plumbing to get to it.

Starter motors were a problem because the heat caused problems with some plastic insulation, and hot starts required a lot of cranking. The needle and seat in the SU carburettor couldn't resist the fuel pressure from the oversized fuel pump, and also couldn't resist the fuel line pressure build up from the hot engine when the car was parked. There was no problems with hot starting unless it was attempted in a window between 20 minutes and an hour after the engine was shut down. A hot start in that window required at least a 30 second cranking with the throttle fully open to clear the super rich fuel/air mix from the intake manifold and cylinders. It took me 3 years to master the hot start problems and another 2 years to find a solution. This problem apparently didn't happen on the NGM development car as it had an A9X hood scoop to vent the hot underbonnet air, but every other owner without the scoop experienced it. A heat shield under the SU carburettor, rerouted fuel lines, and a fuel pressure regulator set to 2 psi eventually solved this problem for me and increased both fuel economy and idle smoothness. Later model NGM Turbo Commodores used a different carburettor and were fitted with a variety of different design bonnet vents.

Cooling the engine was another real problem. I found that in Queensland, the heavy-duty radiator (from the previous model V8s) and the stock fan just wasn't good enough, and would lead to major overheating in city traffic. A single 12" electric fan was also insufficient, and eventually I fitted twin 12" electrics and this helped. The engine was delivered with an unmodified distributor and the stock ADR27a 6 degrees advance, which could be increased to 9 degrees before detonation under boost. An aftermarket water injection kit was fitted to allow further ignition timing advancement to 13 degrees with water injection applied at 4psi boost.

Oil quality and temperature was even more critical. I added a V8 sized oil cooler just to cool the oil feed to the turbo bearing. Without the add-on cooler, even if you'd followed the correct engine cool down procedure, you'd still need to replace the turbo bearings every 15-20,000 km or so.

The lowered compression ratio meant that there was less power than stock until the boost arrived. That plus the taller than stock differential put extra load on the clutch. A 1-tonner clutch was good for less than 20,000 km before it slipped whenever there was positive manifold pressure. I went through a series of clutches from the 1-tonner clutch and pressure plate, to a strengthened 1-tonner pressure plate tor the dual axle 1-tonners, to a dual spring 1-tonner pressure plate to a 1 tonner pressure plate with a ceramic faced clutch plate (very nasty and very noisy, but it didn't slip until it had eventually worn a 5mm depression in the flywheel and pressure plate faces), and now I am running the very last available matched PBR Turbo clutch kit that was found still sealed in the back of a warehouse.

Between ordering and delivery, in Queensland they changed the law regarding aftermarket turbochargers, and my car became illegal just before delivery. It may have been legal, but they required me to present the car for inspection before they would make a decision. I declined their kind offer, and after 23 years, I still have not visited them.

Currently the car is off the road while it receives it's second refreshing. In 1988, I lost a cylinder (number 5 like all Holden red motors) due to cracks in both compression rings on that piston. All the other pistons had at least one cracked ring, so it was probably the end result of overheating and detonation years before. The engine received +0.030" REPCO Bathurst XU1 pistons (drilled oil holes behind the oil rings instead of slots), line boring, yella terra head, roller rockers, turbo grind cam, balancing, competition bearings, etc. This time around, I'm not doing a major engine rebuild, just a lot of little jobs. The original sump was damaged beyond repair during the previous engine rebuild while attempting to properly fit the drain line from the turbocharger (NGM did a poor job and it always leaked) so a replacement sump was obtained from a wreckers. This sump turned out to have damaged threads on the drain plug which have finally gone past the point of no return. The diff is now very noisy, and the brake disc rotors need to be replaced. If I can find the cash, I am considering eventually replacing the engine with a 3.8 V6, but for the moment it's just a case of fixing the sump, and replacing all the hoses, and doing a lot of little niggling things.

As had happened with the small Torana range (LC to TA), the last days of the LH to UC series cars passed with more of a bang than a whimper. The serious design work was going into the Commodore and the Torana became something of an afterthought. Which is a rather sad thing for a car which will go down in history as one of the most significant Aussie machines of all time."

Martin_D
20-06-2006, 10:36 PM
Welcome to the NGM Strata 2 Voodoo....probably the most popular aftermarket turbo kit in Aus

vh-holden
20-06-2006, 10:42 PM
Welcome to the NGM Strata 2 Voodoo....probably the most popular aftermarket turbo kit in Aus

where would i find one of them?

pah
20-06-2006, 11:49 PM
Hi Voodoo,

Yes. Very interesting! Looks similar to a turbo kit that I had on a Datto 26 years ago. Sucking through an SU carbie caused a refrigerator effect caused ice that froze the throttle wide open. That was until I moved the water injetcion downstream of the carbie. This required a solenoid controlled on/off valve to prevent the water injection being sucked dry on closed throttle.

The old Datto felt like a rapid bit of gear, and it was quick for its day, but it only managed 15.8 second quarters at Calder with its standard engine. No match for a Gen III!

Bolting a turbo onto the old 202 would be a fairly straight-forward mod. Fitting the Nissan VL 3.0 turbo engine would mak for a quantum leap in performance and refinement.

I used to idle mine down for 5 mins before shut-down. I knocked up a heap of km's and had no bearing problems at all. The water injection upstream of the turbine (I suspect) damaged the tips of the blades causing a loss of top end performance. This turbo mod convinced me that modifications easily result in heaps of teething problems - the sorts of problems that a manufacturer sorts out by running up 100's of 1,000's of test km's prior to release of a product.



PAH

Stevotski
21-06-2006, 08:52 AM
Back in the days when you could actually order what you wanted from Holden!

Wouldn't it be great to be able to order an SV6 and say to the dealer 'i'll have the turbo pack thanks!'

I hadn't heard of the turbo torrie, but have seen a VC Turbo getting around a while back

Smitty
21-06-2006, 08:57 AM
Here's an article I found on the web about the incredibly rare UC SL/T turbo model, faster than an A9X to 100km/h.. they say.

yes they were.... according to Motor Manual mag
who did an article on 'em way back then.

this set up was a dealer fit..and pretty nifty too
came with 4 wheel discs and most dealers
did body mods to go with the big wheels

surprised they did not sell better

might have to dig the mag out and post the cover :driving:

hth

cheers

Danv8
21-06-2006, 09:15 AM
Wished I still had my LJ XU1 GTR replica.
Would of been awesome set up for it.

VYBerlinaV8
21-06-2006, 10:08 AM
Back in the days when you could actually order what you wanted from Holden!

Wouldn't it be great to be able to order an SV6 and say to the dealer 'i'll have the turbo pack thanks!'

I hadn't heard of the turbo torrie, but have seen a VC Turbo getting around a while back


I'm with you on this. What happened to the days where you said, I'll have this body shape, this luxury level, this engine, and that gearbox; and they would make it up for you???????

OLS108
21-06-2006, 10:17 AM
Back in the days when you could actually order what you wanted from Holden!

Wouldn't it be great to be able to order an SV6 and say to the dealer 'i'll have the turbo pack thanks!'

I hadn't heard of the turbo torrie, but have seen a VC Turbo getting around a while back
i would Rather Order a New SS and say please Deliver to power Torque Engines for a Gen T thanks...:yup:

VooDoo
21-06-2006, 10:27 AM
That can be arranged Dave :D

Smitty
21-06-2006, 10:52 AM
I'm with you on this. What happened to the days where you said, I'll have this body shape, this luxury level, this engine, and that gearbox; and they would make it up for you???????


aaaaaaaaaaaaagh
I worked at Holdens when you could do that
it was a nightmare..for example with HQs
there were more than 20,000 different combos

would sir like his Belmont or Kingswood
with a six or V8 with auto or 3 speed or 4 speed manual
with or without power steering, etc etc
and then you start on the interior:doh:

when thats done...we start talking paint colours:rolleyes:

My dad had a 308 powered 4 speed LSD Belmont
with 4 wheel DRUMS and no power steering
simply uuggh

Holden did the right thing when they went to 'packs'
with VB...imho

cheers

Ron
21-06-2006, 11:59 AM
I remember Motor Manual did a test on a red Turbo UC hatch with Hotwires and a9x flare kit not sure if it had the bonnet scoop as well, very impressive in its day. I think a bloke by the name of Dave Inall was mucking around with a XE turbo Ford too.

Ford racer Bill Brown from around these parts had a turbo A9X 4dr ,and another guy called Bill Wilhelm had one of the first turbo 308 Commodores

Ron
21-06-2006, 12:39 PM
Here is the report on the hatch with the flares

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/gen3/405193dd.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/gen3/SLTPage2.jpg

Stevotski
21-06-2006, 12:49 PM
I can't read the specs that well, but is it 135Kw @ 3800rpm and 340nm @ 2600rpm? In that case a 150kw bathurst spec XU1 should have handed it it's ass on a platter.

Those figures are disturbingly close to the 3.0TD Patrol I am currently driving! (obviously in a car that weighs over 1000kg less though - When I was growing up Mum had a UC with 202 and Y/T head and it went well enough:) )

Smitty: Mum bought the UC when it was 6 months old and it was already fitted with the Y/T head. Did holden do this as an option?

agg25
21-06-2006, 01:09 PM
Whatever you do don't change the motor! This unique car would be worth a fortune in its original state. Just buy another one and put the V6 into it, or an RB30.
I was considering putting a 350 Chev into my UC torana hatchback when I had it years ago but I put a tree into it instead. Didn't do much for performance. :(

plonkerchops
21-06-2006, 01:20 PM
so it beat an A9X...whoop de doo...what did they come from the factory with again? standard 308 and 2.65 rear diff...
reading the specs 0-100 in 9 seconds for the A9X...isnt exactly earth shattering

Angeldust
21-06-2006, 01:42 PM
mm, i just plopped a 308 into my UC when i was young. It was awesome, i still miss it.. funny though i can only remember the good things about it ;)

i got rid of it in 2000, only 6 years ago..

Smitty
21-06-2006, 01:56 PM
....
Smitty: Mum bought the UC when it was 6 months old and it was already fitted with the Y/T head. Did holden do this as an option?

naaah mate
and I know !
I costed the production of every UC ever made...
no YT ever went down the production line
however
dealers were doing packs like the turbo
or warmups with YT xtractors and the like

hth

Smitty
21-06-2006, 01:59 PM
Here is the report on the hatch with the flares

thanks Ron
thats exactly the article I was quoting earlier
nice piccie of the UC on the front of the mag too

cheers

Ron
21-06-2006, 04:20 PM
I actually found that copy somewhere else but, I did have the original mag with as Smitty says had a nice pic of the red UC on the front. It was big news in those days to be able to have bragging rites to say such and such car would better an A9X.

I actually have original copy of Modern Motor April`78 where they compare Australias fastest car to the worlds quickest motorcycle A9X vs Kawasaki Z1R, thats what`s on the front cover.

NinetySix
21-06-2006, 10:00 PM
I actually have original copy of Modern Motor April`78 where they compare Australias fastest car to the worlds quickest motorcycle A9X vs Kawasaki Z1R, thats what`s on the front cover.
ooooh! scan it please!!!! :bravo:

hdj105
22-06-2006, 08:52 AM
I think a bloke by the name of Dave Inall was mucking around with a XE turbo Ford too.



And AFAIK he still works in the forced induction industry [APS].

That inlet manifold design looks remarkably similar to that Holden released on the EFI XT5 six in the VK.

Smitty
22-06-2006, 10:02 AM
...snip..

That inlet manifold design looks remarkably similar to that Holden released on the EFI XT5 six in the VK.

which happened to be designed by Bosch

wiseowl
13-01-2008, 10:43 PM
Hi All

I am new here and was so surprised to see the comments on the UC/T Well I used to own the red one featured in modern motor 1978. This car was purchased from NSW and had NSW plates. I have the modern motor mag 1978 which features this car. It also has Queensland plates which I am still the owner of UCT-78 . I let the plates go with the car but transport informs me I still own them all I got to do is get a new set made by them. The car was a real head turner and I eventually sold it for a 79 statesman 308 and $4000 in cash. I had it on the market for $15000 for quite a while. I also had the original dealer delivery docket that wnet with the car. Boy did I get into some arguments over it no believed me it was genuine but the dealer delivery soon stopped that argument. It had a 202 holden red motor and the garett turbo which caused me heaps off problems till we sorted it out. The only thing done to the motor from original was a yella terra head was fitted to it. It alo had recaro racing interior as well that was black and red with black carpets. It had the full sports dash and boy did it get up and go.
I can post the review of it if any one wants to read it along with the pics in modern motor 1978. I only have video shots of it no stills. I was cursing my wife for making me sell it. It was sold to nissan in bundaberg and went to a car yard near the PA hospital. I believe when they unloaded it off the truck the guy driving it gave it some stick and blew the motor up.
I let the magazine I had go with the sale but was able to find another one which I still have in the safe. The car came form Glen Innes in NSW I had spoken to the previous owner of it and got all the gos on it. Anyway there some news for you on this subject.
I had it and sold it I was such a Fool.
Cheers Guys..

MYTO8
05-03-2008, 07:36 AM
They were cool i knew a local had a vc turbo it certainly livened up the 202,
But a Uc i just dislike the appearance the made a good looking coupe look butt-ugly The tail opel style tail lights:spew: looked like a after thought the forgot to add them so the grabed anything they could and screwed the on to the outside.Just no Style at all. Just my oppinion

BLK 1T
15-04-2008, 07:53 AM
Holy Thread Mining

Here is one for sale in Qld on Evilbay.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RARE-RARE-RARE-TURBO-TORANA-A9X-BEATER_W0QQitemZ290221366174QQcategoryZ2030QQcmdZV iewItem

Phil

Smitty
15-04-2008, 10:11 AM
Holy Thread Mining

Here is one for sale in Qld on Evilbay.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RARE-RARE-RARE-TURBO-TORANA-A9X-BEATER_W0QQitemZ290221366174QQcategoryZ2030QQcmdZV iewItem

Phil
THE A9X BEATER!
HOLDEN UC TORANA SLT

It's not very often you get a chance to own your very own piece of holden history! This is a very rare UC Torana SLT (Sports Luxury Turbo). You had to order this car from factory. When you ordered a UC Torana from General Motors you could order the optional upgrade of the Turbo Charger installed by Normalair Garrett. The car came out of factory with a L20 - 202 nine port red motor, M20 - 4 speed gearbox, GV4 - rear axle (same rear end as the A9X), factory airconditioning, sports dash, sports mirrors, sports mag wheels and tinted windows. ..............
This car has never been raced, however with the amount of horsepower that it does have it would easily do a low 11 second pass at 124mph down the quarter mile.




rofpml

what a joke....
low 11 sec machine ? :rofl:
A9X diff..? :1peek:
UCs did not use the A9X Large Salisbury
they used the small Salisbury
and
Holden NEVER ever made a turbo UC Torana

all Turbos were dealer or aftermarket fitment

gilding the lily this seller
caveat emptor

team illucid
15-04-2008, 10:52 AM
ooooh! scan it please!!!! :bravo:

It is also in many Torana books .. it was compared on everything - luggage capacity, handling, speed, seating capacity ... the Kwaka only just beat the A9X.

BLK 1T
15-04-2008, 11:32 AM
Even says in the article the seller posted on ebay that its dealer fitted not factory,
Paragraph 3. Same article posted in this thread bottom of page 1.

Phil

1340LOCO
15-04-2008, 11:44 AM
It doesnt matter if its faster or not. The UC torana was hideous compared to the earlier models. I'll take me old 73 bathurst xu1 or my my old a9x hatch any day. By the way both of them wer genuine and yes i do regret selling them!!!


so it beat an A9X...whoop de doo...what did they come from the factory with again? standard 308 and 2.65 rear diff...
reading the specs 0-100 in 9 seconds for the A9X...isnt exactly earth shattering

Your right there buddy the a9x wasnt much of a car. It only set a new lap record on the last lap of bathurst the year brock steered it to victory.

BLK 1T
09-05-2008, 10:01 AM
Its back on evilbay again
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RARE-RARE-RARE-TURBO-TORANA-A9X-BEATER_W0QQitemZ290227144246QQcategoryZ2030QQcmdZV iewItem

Phil

Smitty
09-05-2008, 04:18 PM
Its back on evilbay again
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RARE-RARE-RARE-TURBO-TORANA-A9X-BEATER_W0QQitemZ290227144246QQcategoryZ2030QQcmdZV iewItem

Phil

persistent 'lil bugger ain't he.....:1peek:

BLK 1T
09-05-2008, 04:24 PM
Looks it got to $17,100 last time , $16,100 this time.
Might pick it up for $100 if we wait long enough.

Phil

foylema
10-05-2008, 12:35 AM
Put a 302 in there lol

Jessiesdog
05-03-2013, 11:24 PM
[QUOTE=VooDoo;663149]Blatently stolen from the net, I'd never heard of it but its pretty cool.

http://www.canberratoranaclub.com/history/images/ucslt/ucslt4.jpg

http://www.canberratoranaclub.com/history/images/ucslt/ucslt3.jpg

More images here http://www.canberratoranaclub.com/history/ucslt.htm

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Here's an article I found on the web about the incredibly rare UC SL/T turbo model, faster than an A9X to 100km/h.. they say.
QUOTE]

I had one of these. I bought it from Suttons in Sydney in 78. To my recall there were 2 of them. The first was a red one which got a write up in modern motor. The next was mine, which was a yellow one.
At the time there was also a turbo'd A9X torana on the floor. Apparently it put out 800hp. The clutch was so heavy it was almost impossible to press it to the floor.
Most of the issues mentioned in this article were experienced by myself. It was an interesting car. Acceleration was exhilerating. Basically it was a good allround long distance car although high maintenance.

It blew an oil seal on the turbo at about 10000k which was fixed under warranty, but ran basically ok until 100k when it started to burn oil. I had the motor rebuilt, balanced, low compression yellow terra head, which replaced the standard head with a spacer to lower compression. The carby was replaced with a 2" SU, water injection and an oil cooler. It was heavy on fuel, so I dyno'd it and they got the fuel consumption back up to around 20mpg. It also produced 415ft/lb torque and the rear wheels. 350 chevs and fords were no match for it in acceleration.

One of notable the additions to the car was the addition of vents in the bonnet. Prior to the vents, I recall going through the windy bits from Port Maquarie back to Tamworth. The heat generated by the turbo turned the yellow paint orange. The colour returned to its original state after it cooled down.

One of the recurring problems I had with was side bearings in the diff. They were replaced regularly. I never had a problem with the diff center. From memory, I think the diff was a 3.08 salisbury. The gearbox was a m20. I never liked the ratios. An M21 like I had in my previous car (XU1) would have been nicer, although it might have been harder to get it off the line with a taller first gear.

I kept it for 160,000 km and traded it on an SS.
I believe it ended up in Goulburn. I used to pass through Goulburn regularly, but never spotted it.

After that time, I spotted a red one in Halifax, Nth QLD. I always regretted not having a yarn to the owner about it.