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XLR8 V8
21-06-2006, 08:56 AM
HOLDEN DELIVERS ANOTHER SAFETY FIRST FOR AUSTRALIA
Electronic Stability Program to be standard on all-new Commodore range

The new generation of Australia’s best selling car, the Holden Commodore, will be the first locally built range with the acclaimed safety technology Electronic Stability Program (ESP) as standard.

Holden says the Australian safety first was considered a crucial feature for the all-new Commodore, due for release in the third quarter of 2006.

Holden will also make ESP standard on its upcoming Statesman and Caprice flagship cars and the all-new Captiva sport utility vehicle.

ESP technology has been hailed as one of the most significant safety advances since seatbelts were made compulsory in the early 1970s.

State Transport Ministers, State Coroners and motoring organisations have been among advocates for local manufacturers to make ESP more available to Australian car buyers.

GM Holden Chairman and Managing Director, Denny Mooney said today: “Holden is leading the Australian automotive safety agenda by offering the first locally built car range with ESP as standard.

“More importantly, we have chosen Australia’s best selling car range for the past decade to deliver our most comprehensive safety package.

“The decision to make ESP standard in the all-new Commodore was easy because it’s the right thing to do for our buyers.

“ESP is all about assisting crash avoidance rather than minimising harm if crashes do occur.

“We hope this will create the momentum which governments and road bodies have sought to push ESP further into the mainstream.”

ESP is widely acclaimed because it helps drivers to avoid crashes where emergency action has been taken, rather than focussing on minimising harm if they do crash. International studies have suggested that ESP can prevent more than 30 per cent of single vehicle accidents.

ESP greatly improves vehicle safety performance in situations where the driver takes emergency action to avoid a collision. It does this by electronically correcting vehicle paths through individually applying brakes to each wheel and managing engine torque.

The system operates so smoothly that in most situations the driver will not be aware it has been activated.

“Making ESP standard meets growing demand for its availability and Holden’s continued leadership in active and passive safety technology,” Mr Mooney said.

“We have not witnessed such vocal support for new automotive technology as we have for ESP. The call is coming from all parts of society including police, safety experts and coroners.

“Holden was the first local carmaker to fit seat belts, first to offer anti-lock braking, first to offer driver and passenger airbags and now first to make ESP standard on an entire local range.”

Holden safety expert Dr Laurie Sparke, who worked with Monash University Accident Research Centre to develop the award winning Holden airbag system, said ESP was a significant crash avoidance technology.
“The introduction of seat belts in 1966, frontal airbags in 1993 and then side airbags in 1998 has provided the Australian community with world leading protection,” Dr Sparke said.

“Electronic Stability Program, as fitted to the new VE Commodore range and WM Statesman and Caprice, will assist the driver in maintaining vehicle control in emergency situations. Although most drivers are skilled and cautious, they can still be caught out by unexpected situations.

“The majority of crashes result not from reckless driving, but from driver error. Analysis by Monash University Accident Research Centre suggests that drivers will be able to avoid over 20 per cent of serious crashes, and as many as 50 per cent of serious crashes on wet surfaces with ESP.

“ESP is a safety technology that will benefit even the most experienced, skilful drivers.”

Holden’s ESP system was developed in conjunction with the local operations of Robert Bosch GmbH, which first supplied ESP to automotive manufacturers in 1995.

Holden was the first local manufacturer to offer ESP with a locally built sedan when it was specified as standard in 2004 on VZ Commodore Acclaim and V6 variants of Calais, Statesman and Caprice.

The technology was made standard on the VZ series Adventra all-wheel-drive wagon launched in early 2005. It is also standard on Vectra CDXi and new Astra CDTi turbo diesel and SRi turbo petrol imported cars.

ESP: What experts have said

"This technology is critical to further reducing the road toll. It will reduce not only the fatalities but also serious injuries and even collisions. We're behind the times. The problem is that until such time as demand increases significantly, there will obviously be a slow take-up of the technology."
Victorian State Coroner Graeme Johnstone
(Sunday Age, 29 January 2006)

"We've introduced seatbelts and we've introduced random breath testing. And electronic stability control has the potential to be just as important for road safety as these two initiatives - if not more so."
Queensland Minister for Transport and Main Roads, The Hon. Paul Lucas
(Press release, 2 June 2006)

"Consumers should vote with their feet. We are talking about (saving) 50 lives a year."
TAC road safety manager David Healy
(Sunday Herald Sun, 1 January 2006)

"With research showing that this technology can dramatically reduce the chance of being involved in a crash in the first place, it's a life-saving technology well worth consideration."
RAA technical manager Mark Borlace
(Adelaide Advertiser, 8 April 2006)

"To call it a golden bullet is not too strong a term."
RACV chief vehicle engineer Michael Case
(Sunday Herald-Sun, 1 January 2006)

“A very high proportion of our single vehicle crashes could have been prevented if they had been fitted with electronic stability control. I think it's far and away the most important development in vehicle safety in 30-40 years."
Adelaide University Professor Jack McLean, Centre of Automotive Safety Research
(Adelaide Advertiser, 14 January 2006)

Holden safety: Decades of industry leadership
Holden has a safety pedigree back to its decision in 1966 to be the first Australian manufacturer to fit seat belts on all models. Three years later, Holden opened Australia’s first automotive safety testing laboratory to support its work.

Recent safety firsts for an Australian automotive manufacturer from Holden have included –

1990 – first to fit Independent Rear Suspension to a large car
1992 – first to introduce anti-lock braking
1992 – Australia’s first national field accident research program in partnership with Monash University Accident Research Centre
1993 – first to fit driver airbag system
1995 – first to fit passenger airbag system
1997 – first to offer traction control
1998 – first to fit side impact airbags
2000 – first family car range to provide anti-lock braking as standard
2004 – Electronic Stability Program offered for first time on locally built sedan
2006 – ESP standard on all locally built new generation sedans

A few video's of ESP in action.
ESP 1 (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/haroc/Seq1-MPEG-1.mpg)
ESP 2 (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/haroc/Seq2-MPEG-1.mpg)
ESP 3 (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/haroc/Seq3-MPEG-1.mpg)


http://www.holden.com.au//images/img_HoldenLogo.gif Source: GM Holden Press Release

Marco
21-06-2006, 09:12 AM
I think this is an excellent move by Holden, and they ought to be applauded and commended.

The Holden Performance Drive Day I went to in 2004 convinced me of its merits on the VZ Calais and Statesman, as did a 2005 test of cars with and without ESP that I read in the Italian car magazine, Quattroruote.

I for one will feel more comfortable in buying a VE SV6 or SS that I know my wife will also drive with this technology fitted.

sandmanls1
21-06-2006, 11:19 AM
I agree should be std with every new car, our little Merc has it and can't go without it..

Speedy Gonzales
21-06-2006, 07:36 PM
A marketing gimmick.

Recommended for those who have zero car control.

This button will be turned off as soon as said driver enters car, ala TC.

daabido
21-06-2006, 09:04 PM
I agree should be std with every new car, our little Merc has it and can't go without it..

So did our Territory. That's one thing I miss about the Tezza, but the Monaro won my heart.

sandmanls1
21-06-2006, 10:18 PM
thats a bit harsh Speedy, some cars it can't be turned off completely... what if you encounter a greasy road or black ice..... It's the successor to ABS and I know that has saved my bacon at least once.... Studies have shown in Europe and the US that it saves lives, not just inexperienced driver's we all don;t have Mark Skaife levels of car control as much as we like to think we do.

Ryzz
21-06-2006, 10:58 PM
Guys, incase you missed it, there are some short videos of the ESC at work, these are at the bottom of the press release. They are here too incase you cant find it.

ESP Video 1 - Right Click & Save As (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/haroc/Seq1-MPEG-1.mpg)

ESP Video 2 - Right Click & Save As (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/haroc/Seq2-MPEG-1.mpg)

ESP Video 3 - Right Click & Save As (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/haroc/Seq3-MPEG-1.mpg)

who_me_?
21-06-2006, 11:14 PM
A marketing gimmick.

Recommended for those who have zero car control.

This button will be turned off as soon as said driver enters car, ala TC.


You are a big numbers man Speedy but ESP certainly is no gimmick. ESP can control a car in a way even you can't (braking individual wheels) and if you can't see how useful this technology is, well, it is a waste of time trying to educate you... :shiner:

02_CV8
22-06-2006, 10:13 AM
Good news for holden

And another fist for the Holden team

XsPwr2W8
23-06-2006, 08:26 AM
A marketing gimmick.

Recommended for those who have zero car control.

This button will be turned off as soon as said driver enters car, ala TC.

I agree, I baught a 5.7L so the car could go sideways on command, Why would I want to take this away. Leave it for the V6's.

Evil LS1
23-06-2006, 10:41 PM
Another nail in the coffin of driver input. Already cars are becoming or have become mobile loungerooms full of useless distracting crap. 95% of cars sold are slushomatics and the skill level of our already pathetic drivers is falling all the time. Maybe some people need ESP, but these same people shouldn't even be allowed to ride a push-bike let alone drive. Let's make them have to think even less about their driving.

A look at what Mercedes is planning for the 2009 E class basically only requires the driver to hold the steering wheel.

ESP = Extra Stupid People.

Of course what I can't understand is given the governments in this country and their anti-speed BS, why they would push for this technology. After all if you don't speed you won't get into trouble, and by their warped logic, this will just give people a reason to push even harder.

Ryzz
24-06-2006, 09:59 AM
Another nail in the coffin of driver input. Already cars are becoming or have become mobile loungerooms full of useless distracting crap. 95% of cars sold are slushomatics and the skill level of our already pathetic drivers is falling all the time. Maybe some people need ESP, but these same people shouldn't even be allowed to ride a push-bike let alone drive. Let's make them have to think even less about their driving.

A look at what Mercedes is planning for the 2009 E class basically only requires the driver to hold the steering wheel.

ESP = Extra Stupid People.

Of course what I can't understand is given the governments in this country and their anti-speed BS, why they would push for this technology. After all if you don't speed you won't get into trouble, and by their warped logic, this will just give people a reason to push even harder.
I dont follow your logic on this one mate. We know that 95% of the driving population have no interest in improving there driving skills, knowing how to handle a car in a sticky situation, etc. If having ESP fitted on all cars means there is less chance of them fukin up and killing themselves, or taking me out in the progress, im all for it.

Sooner or later we are going to have to wake up to the fact that everyone wants a mobile lounge chair thats gets from the A to B with as many distractions as they can possibly fit into a car, so if this is the case shouldnt we make these cars as safe as possible to protect the other innocent people on the ride, to protect us driving next to them, or your family/children who happen to be in a car next to them when they loose all control and wipe you out??

mavss
24-06-2006, 12:36 PM
2 thumbs up for Holden. Excellent move.

For the nay sayers, this is the sort of technology that can get you out of trouble.

I saw it tested on Top Gear with remarkable results. The vehicle was made to manouvre between a series of witches hats at high speed - on snow. With ESP turned off, it smacked sideways into a snow bank. With ESP on the other hand, it made the manouvre look easy.

If it's an option, I know I'll be checking the box

F6 Hoon
24-06-2006, 04:02 PM
I'm glad FPV dropped ESP in favour of the standard fitment of Brembo's to my BF F6.

Sounds like a marketing gimmick to me. It's been available on the BF's for some time now. Granted, it's not standard across the board but who cares.

Speedy Gonzales
24-06-2006, 05:31 PM
You are a big numbers man Speedy but ESP certainly is no gimmick. ESP can control a car in a way even you can't (braking individual wheels) and if you can't see how useful this technology is, well, it is a waste of time trying to educate you... :shiner:

Well as a driver who is always learning everytime I get into a different new car each day, I will ALWAYS rely on my drivers instinct and NEVER on any electronic safety gizmo to get me out of a dangerous situation, you can keep relying on all the electronic aids to your hearts content :D

Yes Im a numbers man, and the numbers speak for themselves.

XLR8 V8
24-06-2006, 08:27 PM
Well as a driver who is always learning everytime I get into a different new car each day, I will ALWAYS rely on my drivers instinct and NEVER on any electronic safety gizmo to get me out of a dangerous situation, you can keep relying on all the electronic aids to your hearts content :D

Yes Im a numbers man, and the numbers speak for themselves.

Better go out and pull the fuse out of your ABS then :rolleyes:

No matter what your "drivers instinct" tells you, unless you can see into the future you can't predict the actions of others. If this standard implementation of ESP saves 1 person from dying it has done it's job and has my vote.

seldo
24-06-2006, 08:56 PM
Another nail in the coffin of driver input. Already cars are becoming or have become mobile loungerooms full of useless distracting crap. 95% of cars sold are slushomatics and the skill level of our already pathetic drivers is falling all the time. Maybe some people need ESP, but these same people shouldn't even be allowed to ride a push-bike let alone drive. Let's make them have to think even less about their driving.

A look at what Mercedes is planning for the 2009 E class basically only requires the driver to hold the steering wheel.

ESP = Extra Stupid People.

Of course what I can't understand is given the governments in this country and their anti-speed BS, why they would push for this technology. After all if you don't speed you won't get into trouble, and by their warped logic, this will just give people a reason to push even harder.


Well as a driver who is always learning everytime I get into a different new car each day, I will ALWAYS rely on my drivers instinct and NEVER on any electronic safety gizmo to get me out of a dangerous situation, you can keep relying on all the electronic aids to your hearts content :D
Yes Im a numbers man, and the numbers speak for themselves.
But you have to consider the driving skills of the average guy on the street...you know...the mere mortals - not just guys like you and Michael Schumacher.....:rolleyes:

Speedy Gonzales
24-06-2006, 11:29 PM
Seldo - I never said or implied I am like Schuey in driving skill ( maybe our interests in travel abroad and fast exotic cars ) much as you like to bait me, and Im only providing this as an OPINION not as an attack of character, unlike some other member here who is as his user signature suggests :)


My OPINION is one must be really trusting and self assured if you rely solely on ABS, TC and ASR to get you out of a jamb, fortunately, Im not one to be placed into that category of driver, like I posted earlier, those of you who rely and depend ( those being the key words ) on the electronic aids, do so at your own risk.

As an example, I can start pointing to threads about TC and its many cases of near accidents ( and Im sure real accidents also occurred as a result of TC ) but you know where to look by pushing the search button.

I rely and depend not just on my instinct, but on 3 FUNDAMENTAL but simple mechanical basics - tyres, brakes and suspension.

It does not matter if your ABS, TC or ASR is working clockwork perfect, if one or more of the above 3 items are cactus, say goodbye to the blacktop, hello to hitting a solid object, especially in the wet or cold conditions.


XLR8_V8 - People have been driving cars since way back when, you cant eliminate the idiot factor, that is impossible, and it does not matter if the car has worlds best technology ( people still crash late model supercars ) behind it if the person behind the wheel is a dill. Cars dont kill people, people kill people. Does that clarify what I was trying to get across earlier? I hope so.

It is of no significance what they put in the car, people can and still do kill themselves driving, thats part and parcel of life, happens everyday, people die all the time, life goes on, some people just have no concept of the responsibilty required when sitting behind the wheel, there I said it, harsh as it may be, thats reality when one sits behind the wheel, the R word.

Back to what I posted earlier, kudos to Holden for marketing ESP and milking it for all its worth, fantastic advertising and marketing, just some of us can see through slick salesmanship and that electronic safety aids are not the sole reason for purchasing a car.

Im sure Holden will have their boffins running around trying to find out how to get more sales, as any business does.

Stevotski
25-06-2006, 04:31 PM
I'm glad FPV dropped ESP in favour of the standard fitment of Brembo's to my BF F6.


FPV didn't drop ESP at all - The truth is that FPV could not afford to have the ESP system recalibrated to suit the FPV range.

F6 Hoon
25-06-2006, 06:32 PM
FPV didn't drop ESP at all - The truth is that FPV could not afford to have the ESP system recalibrated to suit the FPV range.

Yes they did. FPV surveyed their customers and when asked to choose between ESP or Brembo's as standard fitment, the Brembo's was a no-brainer.

Not knocking the ESP system's on the BF's though. Check out Motor's PCOTY round 1, the BF XR6 Turbo's had the highest mid corner track time from memory, compared to the BF F6 and the track-based Clubsport Dealer Team Spec fitted with race-style tyres and suspension.