Ambrose has finished somewhere

[Holdendriver]

Can't believe it but Ambrose has just finished third in the O'reilly Auto Parts 250 at Kansas!
As he was running around the top 10 for most of the race, would have to assume it was not a fluke either.
Perhaps this shows that he is equal to the base racers in the NCTS series,
for those of you who don't know, NASCAR is on at Daytona today so the likes of Martin et al were not there.
He seems to like 1.5 mile tracks as he also qualified 4th like at Charlotte.
Managed to lead a lap too, ( 5 points) AFAIK only had a moment once in the whole race.
Picked up $25K for his efforts as well.
The race was red flagged for a time as Kelly Sutton had to be cut out after a heavy crash on the backstretch, listed as fair condition in KC hospital.

PS If you are going to check around for info be aware that NASCAR is being run this morning (our time) Don't spoil it for yourself or anyone else!!
Cheers

[pagey]

PS If you are going to check around for info be aware that NASCAR is being run this morning (our time) Don't spoil it for yourself or anyone else!!
Cheers

errr.. didn't you just do that?

[Holdendriver]

errr.. didn't you just do that?

????? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Truck race already finished.. about the time of my first post.

NASCAR would be just starting this time of morning.

[Febs]

For the last two weeks I've been living 18 bloody miles from the Kansas City Speedway...if I was there 2 more days I would've been able to see the race. :(

Oh well, I did see a Major League Baseball game. That was interesting. :)

Cheers,
- Febs.

[Holdendriver]

For the last two weeks I've been living 18 bloody miles from the Kansas City Speedway...if I was there 2 more days I would've been able to see the race. :(

Oh well, I did see a Major League Baseball game. That was interesting. :)

Cheers,
- Febs.

You lucky bastard! They reckon MLB games are something else, even if you know bugger all about the game.
Something I have to go see next time.
Was it hard to get tickets??

[Goanna]

For the last two weeks I've been living 18 bloody miles from the Kansas City Speedway...if I was there 2 more days I would've been able to see the race. :(


Cheers,
- Febs.

I was lucky enough to be in Kansas city in 2001 and got to go to the First ever race meeting there, its pretty cool to watch, very fast.

[Febs]

Was it hard to get tickets??

Piece of cake. The local MLB team (Kansas City Royals) are bottom of the ladder, so no-one's really that interested in them at the moment. :lol:

They did win a few games while we were there though. :)

Definitely an experience worth doing if you can. It helps that they play around 4 games each week too. :)

Cheers,
- Febs.

[Febs]

I was lucky enough to be in Kansas city in 2001 and got to go to the First ever race meeting there, its pretty cool to watch, very fast.

That would've been great. It looked like a pretty impressive track, even from the highway. Wanted to get up close but they'd shut the gates. :(

Cheers,
- Febs.

[rs2000]

Can't believe it but Ambrose has just finished third in the O'reilly Auto Parts 250 at Kansas!
As he was running around the top 10 for most of the race, would have to assume it was not a fluke either.
Perhaps this shows that he is equal to the base racers in the NCTS series,
for those of you who don't know, NASCAR is on at Daytona today so the likes of Martin et al were not there.
He seems to like 1.5 mile tracks as he also qualified 4th like at Charlotte.
Managed to lead a lap too, ( 5 points) AFAIK only had a moment once in the whole race.
Picked up $25K for his efforts as well.
The race was red flagged for a time as Kelly Sutton had to be cut out after a heavy crash on the backstretch, listed as fair condition in KC hospital.

PS If you are going to check around for info be aware that NASCAR is being run this morning (our time) Don't spoil it for yourself or anyone else!!
Cheers
fantastic effort for ambrose..also the highest finisher of any rookie driver for the year.

[mgygto]

fantastic effort for ambrose..also the highest finisher of any rookie driver for the year.

really??? who cares! its like someone finishing 3rd in the Brutes in Oz compared to then the dev series and then the supercars. what was funny about this was the moment he'd wrapped up his race committments he phoned media and journalists in Oz to ensure they all knew about it! Its good to know his head size has remained the same even if he is in a joke category.

[JT]

I hope he does really well over there,just so he never comes back here

[FPV GTHO]

really??? who cares! its like someone finishing 3rd in the Brutes in Oz compared to then the dev series and then the supercars. what was funny about this was the moment he'd wrapped up his race committments he phoned media and journalists in Oz to ensure they all knew about it! Its good to know his head size has remained the same even if he is in a joke category.

You obviously dont care so why do you insist on looking like an idiot by slagging on Ambrose?

For everyones information, that was the highest result ever achieved by an Australian in any Nascar category.

Get of your f***ing high horse about it

[mgygto]

For everyones information, that was the highest result ever achieved by an Australian in any Nascar category.



wow , wow, wow, BIG deal :lol: he's obviously a new hero for us all, :lol: ... shame its a rubbish category raced on the equivalent of the Friday of our V8 supercar weekend, in a category that has as much following and interest as the V8 Brutes ..... I guess at least he has found his true level at last :lol:

[FPV GTHO]

Youve obviously got no clue.

NASCAR is second to only the NFL in the US. Both attracting a huge following

[mgygto]

Youve obviously got no clue.

NASCAR is second to only the NFL in the US. Both attracting a huge following

hehe .... dont quote what you dont know (unless of course you are deliberately trying to mislead :) ), i've been to a number of the NASCAR races and as you should know what you are quoting is the NEXTEL cup series , of which the support category is the BUSCH series. The Craftsman Truck series is a poor mans support category which is not even nationally televised. Fox and TNT carry Nextel & Busch live, the trucks are shown delayed on a cable channel called Speed.

[Holdendriver]

Yes and no.
NASCAR is a massive sport in the USA.
What no-one in the media seems to know here is that the truck series that Ambrose is running in is the support series to the support series of NASCAR Nextel Cup.

NASCAR Cup meetings normally book out up to a year in advance at certain tracks.

Support is via the Busch series meetings never book out but several drivers in the NASCAR Cup racing run the Busch series, normally the night before, to get a feel for the track the next day.

Craftsman truck series, is one lower again, drivers try their skills there to see if they have what it takes to actually race in Busch or Cup series.
Crowds for the truck series are very low, like a club meeting here.

You can think of the series as something like:
Cup series = V8 supercars
Busch series = Konica lights
Trucks = Brutes.

Not a perfect analogy but enough to give you some idea.

Ambrose will need to prove himself in the truck series, if he becomes proficient in that series he may get a start in the Busch series.

If he can get somewhere in the Busch series, then he just might get a chance to run the NASCAR Cup series.

There are a lot of ifs, buts and maybes, perhaps one day he may just make it
and if he does good on him.

If he slips back into his old attitude he had here, he may find it difficult to finish a race.

Trust me, at the moment even after his run at KCR, if you mentioned his name to a NASCAR fan all you would get is WHO????.. never heard of him.

Hope that clears it up a bit, basically if you hear something on the media here treat it as incorrect!
Cheers.

[Holdendriver]

hehe .... dont quote what you dont know (unless of course you are deliberately trying to mislead :) ), i've been to a number of the NASCAR races and as you should know what you are quoting is the NEXTEL cup series , of which the support category is the BUSCH series. The Craftsman Truck series is a poor mans support category which is not even nationally televised. Fox and TNT carry Nextel & Busch live, the trucks are shown delayed on a cable channel called Speed.

What he said ... you beat me to it!

Thought I was the only person in OZ who knew about NASCAR, let alone been to some races.
What tracks did you go to??
Cheers,

[FPV GTHO]

hehe .... dont quote what you dont know (unless of course you are deliberately trying to mislead :) ), i've been to a number of the NASCAR races and as you should know what you are quoting is the NEXTEL cup series , of which the support category is the BUSCH series. The Craftsman Truck series is a poor mans support category which is not even nationally televised. Fox and TNT carry Nextel & Busch live, the trucks are shown delayed on a cable channel called Speed.

And you think that makes it acceptable for you to act like a pompous dickhead?

The Craftsman Truck series is alot closer to the Nextel Cup than the BRutes are to the V8's.

[SS Sportswagon]

Yeah must have decided to race not just go round and round and fall through the pack keep it up :flip3:

[mgygto]

What he said ... you beat me to it!

Thought I was the only person in OZ who knew about NASCAR, let alone been to some races.
What tracks did you go to??
Cheers,

I went to Nashville , Richmond and of course Indy .... loved the atmosphere at nashville and Indy in particular and Richmond was ok but a bit smaller ..... as with any motorsport TV doesn't do them justice! I was working sports broadcasting at the time so was lucky enough to be a "guest" of Fox at nashville. Well worth it, suggest anyone visiting the states tries to go if you can a ticket!

[mgygto]

The Craftsman Truck series is alot closer to the Nextel Cup than the BRutes are to the V8's.

No, its not. You would find that anyone following the Nextel series would have no idea who were the front runners in the truck series, no idea at all.

[FPV GTHO]

No, its not.

:hmmm:

Your saying that 2 categories, both using tubular chassis and silhouette bodyshells have less in common with each other, than a near stock series and another using the road chassis/bodyshell, but almost nothing else from the original?

[Holdendriver]

I went to Nashville , Richmond and of course Indy .... loved the atmosphere at nashville and Indy in particular and Richmond was ok but a bit smaller ..... as with any motorsport TV doesn't do them justice! I was working sports broadcasting at the time so was lucky enough to be a "guest" of Fox at nashville. Well worth it, suggest anyone visiting the states tries to go if you can a ticket!

Done Richmond of those three, good track for the speed whilst still having the ability to see entire track.
Best we ever saw was Bristol, some of the hardest racing you have ever seen, all on a half-mile track, night time racing with a crowd of 180,000!
Of all the motorsports I have seen, THIS race is the best motor sports event I have ever attended.
Will have to do that Brickyard race one year though.......
Cheers,

[mgygto]

:hmmm:

Your saying that 2 categories, both using tubular chassis and silhouette bodyshells have less in common with each other, than a near stock series and another using the road chassis/bodyshell, but almost nothing else from the original?

you do make me smile :love2: no if you read the posts what I have said is that when you compare the events and look at the prestige / fan following etc that the series that Ambrose is currently 30th in is about the equivalent of our BRutes .... low interest, small fan base etc and is not the NASCAR event (Nextel Cup) that you have tried to portray.

[mgygto]

Done Richmond of those three, good track for the speed whilst still having the ability to see entire track.
Best we ever saw was Bristol, some of the hardest racing you have ever seen, all on a half-mile track, night time racing with a crowd of 180,000!
Of all the motorsports I have seen, THIS race is the best motor sports event I have ever attended.
Will have to do that Brickyard race one year though.......
Cheers,

I would love to be at Bristol live .... well done!

[Pickles]

C'mon guys, where's that Aussie spirit--there's a bit of negativity here. We should be able to give credit, where credit's due, & Ambrose is due some.
He could have had an armchair contract for the rest of his career here, with his Ford contract etc, but had the balls to have a go at Nascar--I reckon that's a pretty gutsy effort. Whether he succeeds or fails is irrelevant- at least he's having a go.
Lots of people talk about Ambrose's "attitude"-- well he's no worse than Skaife let me tell you. Murphy, Tander, & some of the other drivers (Holden or Ford) can also show a bit of "attitude" on occasions, --most of them do, maybe with the exception of Lowndes.
I've followed Touring cars/ Supercars whatever you want to call them for over forty years, & there's no doubt I'm a Holden man. But there have been many non-Holden drivers I've admired over the years, the first one that comes to mind being Allan Moffat, who in my mind is the best promoter of the Ford product they ever had--and a MAGNIFICENT driver as well. Moffat had a reputation for "arrogance" as well, but get him away from the racetrack, & he's just an ordinary person, like you & me!
Ambrose has provided sensational driving & entertainment during the last 3 years, & I've missed his competitive presence this year. If Skaife wasn't there, I'd miss him too!
I wish Ambrose all the best with a VERY TOUGH challenge.
Cheers, Pickles.

[seldo]

C'mon guys, where's that Aussie spirit--there's a bit of negativity here. We should be able to give credit, where credit's due, & Ambrose is due some.
He could have had an armchair contract for the rest of his career here, with his Ford contract etc, but had the balls to have a go at Nascar--I reckon that's a pretty gutsy effort. Whether he succeeds or fails is irrelevant- at least he's having a go.
Lots of people talk about Ambrose's "attitude"-- well he's no worse than Skaife let me tell you. Murphy, Tander, & some of the other drivers (Holden or Ford) can also show a bit of "attitude" on occasions, --most of them do, maybe with the exception of Lowndes.
I've followed Touring cars/ Supercars whatever you want to call them for over forty years, & there's no doubt I'm a Holden man. But there have been many non-Holden drivers I've admired over the years, the first one that comes to mind being Allan Moffat, who in my mind is the best promoter of the Ford product they ever had--and a MAGNIFICENT driver as well. Moffat had a reputation for "arrogance" as well, but get him away from the racetrack, & he's just an ordinary person, like you & me!
Ambrose has provided sensational driving & entertainment during the last 3 years, & I've missed his competitive presence this year. If Skaife wasn't there, I'd miss him too!
I wish Ambrose all the best with a VERY TOUGH challenge.
Cheers, Pickles.
:lmao: Moffat arrogant..???? :lmao: He re-defined the word! Yes - an excellent driving talent, one of the best in fact...but arogant, and attitude...HUH! If this wasn't a public forum I would tell you a few tales, but I'd get sued...he's good at that too...

[NickG1982]

While the truck series isn't exactly the most high profile series over there, to call it their equivalent of the Brutes is a bit harsh. The truck series still has factory support and entrys from some major teams, some decent drivers, let alone the races where you get guys from the Nextel cup series racing amongst the truck regulars as well. To be in the top 30 in points, after missing the first 7-8 races of the season and getting used to oval racing is quite a big accomplishment. Plus if you believe what is bandied around certain newswires and forums, his efforts in learning have impressed enough that Marcos may be in line to replace Dale Jarrett at RYR (pretty much Ford's # 2 factory team) in the mian series next year.

[rs2000]

While the truck series isn't exactly the most high profile series over there, to call it their equivalent of the Brutes is a bit harsh. The truck series still has factory support and entrys from some major teams, some decent drivers, let alone the races where you get guys from the Nextel cup series racing amongst the truck regulars as well. To be in the top 30 in points, after missing the first 7-8 races of the season and getting used to oval racing is quite a big accomplishment. Plus if you believe what is bandied around certain newswires and forums, his efforts in learning have impressed enough that Marcos may be in line to replace Dale Jarrett at RYR (pretty much Ford's # 2 factory team) in the mian series next year.
he was also on pole for last weekends race..

[mgygto]

While the truck series isn't exactly the most high profile series over there, to call it their equivalent of the Brutes is a bit harsh. The truck series still has factory support and entrys from some major teams, some decent drivers, let alone the races where you get guys from the Nextel cup series racing amongst the truck regulars as well. To be in the top 30 in points, after missing the first 7-8 races of the season and getting used to oval racing is quite a big accomplishment. Plus if you believe what is bandied around certain newswires and forums, his efforts in learning have impressed enough that Marcos may be in line to replace Dale Jarrett at RYR (pretty much Ford's # 2 factory team) in the mian series next year. Not quite true ... there aren't any current Nextel Cup drivers in the Craftsman series, any factory support is limited and is pretty much the same as some of our local BRutes receive, he has missed 3 races and that is because he was not allowed to race in those 3. He finished in the top 20 on the weekend (19th - 1 lap down and by all reports raced well ) and has moved from 30th to 29th in the series. I think you are probably undervaluing the local BRute series!

[rs2000]

Not quite true ... there aren't any current Nextel Cup drivers in the Craftsman series, any factory support is limited and is pretty much the same as some of our local BRutes receive, he has missed 3 races and that is because he was not allowed to race in those 3. He finished in the top 20 on the weekend (19th - 1 lap down and by all reports raced well ) and has moved from 30th to 29th in the series. I think you are probably undervaluing the local BRute series!
he also led the race for 50 laps at the start..but went a lap down because of some sort of hiccup in the pits..

[Holdendriver]

[QUOTE=mgygto]Not quite true ... there aren't any current Nextel Cup drivers in the Craftsman series, QUOTE]


Shhhhhh,, Don't tell Mark Martin,, OK????

[mgygto]

[QUOTE=mgygto]Not quite true ... there aren't any current Nextel Cup drivers in the Craftsman series, QUOTE]


Shhhhhh,, Don't tell Mark Martin,, OK????

No Mark Martin is not racing the full series .... He actually was not meant to be racing in the Nextel this year but stayed on the extra extra at the request of the Roush and has filled in for the team in the Craftsmen when the rookies are ineligible or unavailable.

[Holdendriver]

[QUOTE=Holdendriver]

No Mark Martin is not racing the full series .... He actually was not meant to be racing in the Nextel this year but stayed on the extra extra at the request of the Roush and has filled in for the team in the Craftsmen when the rookies are ineligible or unavailable.

Fair enough.
Watched his final series while I was over there last year,guess it doesn't pay to say too much, you can lose your Viagra sponsorship :lol: :lol:
Still seven starts out of Thirteen aint too shabby esp when he has 3 wins. Guess it goes to show though how close to the Brutes series the Truck series is.

That Juan Pablo Montoya (sp) bloke is going to NASCAR at the end of this year, according to him he wants to do some exciting racing, IF he succeeds in getting a start in the Cup series, that is one less spot available.

[mgygto]

[QUOTE=mgygto]


Still seven starts out of Thirteen aint too shabby esp when he has 3 wins.


very true :)

[NickG1982]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but last year didn't the Roush team have a full strength lineup in selected truck series races as well? I'm sure I remember seeing races where they fielded Martin, Kenseth, Edwards and Busch.