New Monaro 2008/2009 Will be a Camaro

[VT_5l]

look at the august issue of motor magazine, says something along the lines of the new camaro being badged as a MONARO and having the possibility of a 427 option. Also with the LS2 and a V6....(turbo six c'mon)

[csv rulz]

look at the august issue of motor magazine, says something along the lines of the new camaro being badged as a MONARO and having the possibility of a 427 option. Also with the LS2 and a V6....(turbo six c'mon)

That would be awesome. Shame Holden arent building there own Monaro, i think Holden should import the Camaro as a Camaro because the Monaro is an aussie designed car and i think it should stay that way

[Mr Moosh]

Yep, if camaro is brought over here, then it should be brought over as a camaro (or Holden could pick a different name)... The Monaro spells Australian, and it should stay that way. So they should reserve the name for an aussie coupe... anyway, im sure Holden could squeeze both into their line up :headbang:

[Holden Man]

That would be awesome. Shame Holden arent building there own Monaro, i think Holden should import the Camaro as a Camaro because the Monaro is an aussie designed car and i think it should stay that way

I agree, now we will know what it felt like for the yanks with the GTO (our car rebadged). Ironic that we end buying the Monaro from them !

Love the look of it though :evil:

What will HSV do with it ?

[VT_5l]

I agree, now we will know what it felt like for the yanks with the GTO (our car rebadged). Ironic that we end buying the Monaro from them !

Love the look of it though :evil:

What will HSV do with it ?
make it a HSV camaro lol

[csv rulz]

I agree, now we will know what it felt like for the yanks with the GTO (our car rebadged). Ironic that we end buying the Monaro from them !

Love the look of it though :evil:

What will HSV do with it ?

Y do the yanks have to take over everything? The monaro is an aussie car not an american car. I think Holden should reconsider building a new monaro after all it was the best selling 2 door coupe in Aus.

[mgygto]

its a dream ....... has about a 5% chance of happening

[csv rulz]

If Holden build a coupe based on the VE it would be unreal, considering how good the VE is going to be (build quality) the monaro could go up against the Euros. could you imagine

NEW 7L Holden Monaro v BMW M6 v Aston Martin DB9 etc

The best article i have ever read is when Motor took the VTII GTS over to europe to compare to the M5 and equivalent Merc at Nuirbuirge with Mark Skaife. The GTS kicked their ass. It beat them by even more when it started to rain.:evil:

[VT_5l]

If Holden build a coupe based on the VE it would be unreal, considering how good the VE is going to be (build quality) the monaro could go up against the Euros. could you imagine

NEW 7L Holden Monaro v BMW M6 v Aston Martin DB9 etc

The best article i have ever read is when Motor took the VTII GTS over to europe to compare to the M5 and equivalent Merc at Nuirbuirge with Mark Skaife. The GTS kicked their ass. It beat them by even more when it started to rain.:evil:
its actually based on the VE..they claim its got VE DNA...also would you still have the article on how they took the VTs2 to challenge the mirc etc at nuremburg? would be a great read if you can post it up if thats possible.

[Holden Man]

The best article i have ever read is when Motor took the VTII GTS over to europe to compare to the M5 and equivalent Merc at Nuirbuirge with Mark Skaife. The GTS kicked their ass. It beat them by even more when it started to rain.:evil:

Remember that aswell, the day HSV came of age (even the pommy mags loved it)

[csv rulz]

its actually based on the VE..they claim its got VE DNA...also would you still have the article on how they took the VTs2 to challenge the mirc etc at nuremburg? would be a great read if you can post it up if thats possible.

Its a mates mag but im sure we can dig it out. I'l post it on a new thread next time i'm at my mates place and we find it.

Skaife just went on about how much better it handled especially in the wet. HSV may have firm rides for AUS but for Europe there perfect.
The only part where the euros were better was in quality, they said the bmw and merc would still feel like a solid car in 20 years where the Holden will not.
but everything else the GTS kicked ass in

[CeeVee8]

its a dream ....... has about a 5% chance of happening

Sorry but I disagree, I think it has a 0% chance of happening.

Why ? It will be to expensive and it won't sell.

But I'd be happy if I'm wrong.

[Knight Phlier]

Definately agree they should keep the name as Camaro if it gets imported here. People will moan and groan if it is called a Monaro. What would be awesome is if HSV imported the Corvette.

[plonkerchops]

look at the august issue of motor magazine, says something along the lines of the new camaro being badged as a MONARO and having the possibility of a 427 option. Also with the LS2 and a V6....(turbo six c'mon)


geez ...you reading the same article as me?... doesnt say that at all :rolleyes:
...lets see the opening lines of the article...

'As much as Holden keeps denying it , there will be a new Monaro, it wiill be based on a Commodore; and , if it all goes to plan , it will be here by 2009. It just wont be radically different to the big Aussie sedan '

Then it just blurbs on about the underpinnings ( of the Camaro :spew: ) being the same as the new VE as it has the same Zeta chassis architecture.

It then waffles on some more and towards the end says
'We'll even have Z28 lightweight special with a blueprinted V8 early on in the game and you will also see that coveted 427 badge later on' ( as pertaining to the Camaro :spew: not the Monaro)

Doesnt even say that the Camaro :spew: will be coming to Australia just that
' Privately GM officals says an ok is a mere formality and internal documents suggest a market introduction in mid 2009'

[FunkyPig]

I would prefer there be no VE Monaro than have a rebadged Comaro. Rebadging might work with Daewoos, but in this class of car, you can't fool anyone and would destroy the 'aussie legend' myth of the Monaro name.

Either sell a 'Holden Comaro' import, or a proper VE coupe Monaro, or both.

[Ghosn]

I would prefer there be no VE Monaro than have a rebadged Comaro. Rebadging might work with Daewoos, but in this class of car, you can't fool anyone and would destroy the 'aussie legend' myth of the Monaro name.

Either sell a 'Holden Comaro' import, or a proper VE coupe Monaro, or both.

I agree....

[PhatAs]

In a interview last year after the Camaro Concept Car was unveiled Denny Mooney said that the camaro would never be called Monaro, it would be imported as a Camaro. hopefully this will happpen, as it is based on the same zeta platform, easy RHD convert.:burnout: :burnout:

[HSV,_I_GOT_ONE]

I would love the camaro to make its way here. As long as they sell it as just that, a camaro. But I doubt it will ever come to Australia via holden. Hell, if you look around the american forums they dont even think the camaro will even make production. All hype they seem to think.

[mgygto]

Sorry but I disagree, I think it has a 0% chance of happening.

Why ? It will be to expensive and it won't sell.

But I'd be happy if I'm wrong.

i dont disagree with you either .... my 5% is based on it being imported at all , and if it is it will NOT be called a Monaro , and thats only of course if it makes it into production in the US first

[Dacious]

We might get the Corvette, no way IMO opinion will they bring in the Camaro. Like the Mustang, it'd be an $Oz60-80K car but it's being built to be a $US20K car in the 'States. Which means like the new Mustang it'd be too cheaply/poorly finished and sub-par dynamically, but too dear even for most enthusiasts to justify. Going 'round corners is not a priority for the target demographic. I also don't think they'll spend money to make them RHD because the only sizable target market i.e. England allows LHD cars to be registered.

GM NA said if either car is to be exported, they are to be sold as Chevs under their original badge as part of a push to 'improve' GMs recognition overseas.

[BAM*BAM]

I agree with most above, a car badged as a Monaro has to be developed and produced in Australia.

[powerman_dsr]

The Monaro Is Australias Muscle car how dare they even think about doing this

[Stormin]

The Monaro Is Australias Muscle car how dare they even think about doing this

It's ironic then that your ride is a Pontiac GTO.

[SS220]

It's ironic then that your ride is a Pontiac GTO.

Do a search and you'll see he has 'Monaroised' his GTO.
Even down to the badging.

[BLQWN]

I doubt the Yanks are going to let "their Camaro" be badged Monaro.
And we shouldn't let them!
Monaro is a sacred Australian word, I don't want my kids growing up thinking Monaro/Camaro is the same thing OR saying Dad lets take the HK Camaro today. bah

[VooDoo]

Stuff the Camaro, bring in the corvette at a decent price as the monaro replacement and the ZO6 is the HSV version. For what the corvette sells for in the US we should see them here for 70-80k but don't.

[Pickles]

Stuff the Camaro, bring in the corvette at a decent price as the monaro replacement and the ZO6 is the HSV version. For what the corvette sells for in the US we should see them here for 70-80k but don't.
1:Z06--Yes please, I'd love to see that.
2:I reckon the retro Camaro will definitely make it to production--GM's got to have something to put up against the Mustang.
3:There will never be a large V8 Coupe made in Aus again--the financial numbers just do not stack up. However, an imported U.S. made R.H.D. Camaro could be a possibility.
Cheers, Pickles.

[csv rulz]

3:There will never be a large V8 Coupe made in Aus again--the financial numbers just do not stack up. However, an imported U.S. made R.H.D. Camaro could be a possibility.
Cheers, Pickles.

But the Monaro was the most popular selling 2 door coupe in Aus!!!

[MARTY]

Wonder how many would have to be sold, and at what price to make the financial numbers stack up for the continued survival of the only Australian muscle coupe.

[Desertraptor]

Aren't Holden supposed to have overall control of this car even though I think it's being built in Canada and not the US.

Go to ls1gto.com and ask the guys why the GTO has been less than popular and you'll get why I believe a car built OS and badged Monaro here will fail.

The guys on LS1GTO love the GTO and a lot are replacing GTO parts with imported Monar parts.
A lot seem to think the car should never have been imported as a GTO. It's an iconic car just like the Monaro and a lot of GTO guys just refused to buy it for that reason. It was also portrayed as a revheads car which would have put off quite a few people.

Still today many of the guys there get asked what the car is. It was just badly marketed and has cost us our Monaro as well as the GTO.

So it's seems GM fooked up.

[jontall]

I think that Holden builds a better car then GM in the USA. I'm very happy with my Pontiac GTO. If GM decides to import the Camaro to Australia, it will be no-where-near the quality of the Monaro.

[GREENR8]

I dont think the Camaro will sail under the Monaro flag, no way. The Monaro is finished for now, that's it. The next muscle retro coupe will be the Torana. I wouldnt be suprised if the camaro is baged Torana. I dont think it is fitting though, GM should just bring in the camaro as is (and Ford should bring the Mustang here to for that matter). I'd buy one, and I guarantee one of the most popular mods (if it's badged a Holden) will be to replace the badges with chevy badges anyway. That's my thought, I think Monaros are definetly gone for now. That was definitley the publicity a few months ago when the last Monaro was sold.

Further, Manaro is an ozzy icon, and lest we forgett that Camaro is a US icon. Rebadging either car would not do it justice.

I think I'm just hanging for Holden to release a car with the 7L 427 in it so I can indebt myself and loose my licence.

[Ch0jiN]

Further, Manaro is an ozzy icon, and lest we forgett that Camaro is a US icon. Rebadging either car would not do it justice.


Exactly. I'd want one of these as a camaro, not a monaro for exactly that reason. The Camaro is an iconic brand, to me, quite a lot more so than the Monaro. As soon as I was old enough to start drooling over cars I remember looking at US magazines with '69 Camaro's in 'em and swearing I'd one day own one. How many times have I watched "Better Off Dead" just for the scene where he rumbles out the driveway in the freshly washed and serviced black Camaro.

The camaro on the cover of motor (with a more sensible instrument cluster, that prototype looks ridiculous imho) in black with a 427 would be my weapon of choice for 2009.

[HLDNON]

id have to agree with everyone here i would buy the comaro as a comaro but i wouldnt like it to be rebadged as a monaro coz ITS NOT!! and it was never meant to be. i think they should do the same thing as the monaro that just ended. get a commodore get rid of the back doors makie it a bit sleeker and bobs your uncle you have a VE coupe (monaro). just like the VT coupe released as a concept was then released as the monaro.

[BlownVR]

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/E0986C40ABDB6D14CA2571AE000F79BC

The Camaro has been touted as a possible successor for the Monaro-based Pontiac GTO. But Mr Simcoe, who is responsible for the design of future Pontiac cars (as well as those from Buick, Chevrolet, Cadillac and Saturn), was adamant that despite sharing a common platform, the two vehicles did not have a common destiny. "The Chev Camaro is not a Monaro," he said.

GM Holden chairman and managing director Denny Mooney also hosed down speculation about the next Monaro being derived from the Camaro: "I wouldn’t re-skin a Camaro – a Camaro is a Camaro."

[Uncle Tone]

GM Holden chairman and managing director Denny Mooney also hosed down speculation about the next Monaro being derived from the Camaro: "I wouldn’t re-skin a Camaro – a Camaro is a Camaro."

He also said in a radio interview early in the week that Holden want to do a Monaro based on the VE COMMODORE platform, including a convertible.

[dabadbaz427]

7.0L 500hp roofless 2 door with VE drivetrain/profile for Porsche Boxster $$ :idea: (maybe 2x Boxster $$, but its all good)