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[Sidewindr]

Caprice discussions here ...

[MARTY]

Noticed in the official pics there is one that shows the rear seat of the statesman which has what looks like a tray that comes out from the middle seat at its front. What is it??????
Also noticed the caprice now has headlight washers.

[Stevotski]

THe LWB cars are absolute sex on wheels - especially with the dark interior shown in the Caprice. NIce Bose sound system too :)

The only thing I am not too sure about is the instrument cluster in the LWB sedans... I'm sure it will grow on me

[Itchy_Feet]

How good does the side vent/indicator assy look.

Ref.

http://us.tnpv.net/2006/GMC200607/GMC2006071552168_PV.jpg
Caprice

http://us.tnpv.net/2006/GMC200607/GMC2006071552617_PV.jpg
Stato.

Sorta like the ones on some of the Aston Martins.

[Goggles]

vents look great

gotta love the 3 dvd screens in the Caprice.....wonder if they can show 3 different things?? would solve the problems for our kids, but a WM Caprice is a bit out of our price range.

[speedyocca]

Noticed in the official pics there is one that shows the rear seat of the statesman which has what looks like a tray that comes out from the middle seat at its front. What is it??????

cup holder, if you zoom in close enough you can see the logo

[speedyocca]

you can really see the Audi A8 influence in this car (c pillar, dash etc)

[jamesd]

THe LWB cars are absolute sex on wheels - especially with the dark interior shown in the Caprice. NIce Bose sound system too :)

The only thing I am not too sure about is the instrument cluster in the LWB sedans... I'm sure it will grow on me
Personally, I love it. It's great that holden has made different interiors for each model, hopefully HSV will be doing the same.

[speedyocca]

. NIce Bose sound system too :)
just hope it better then the recent Bose products cause they were absolute :cussing: and not worth the price they charge for it

[spank]

i went to launch today and loved the caprice, i dont know what the color (darkish kind of metallic sand) is but the one that was on the ramp looked sensational and i cant wait to see what hsv do with the grange

[02vyss]

just hope it better then the recent Bose products cause they were absolute :cussing: and not worth the price they charge for it

Have Holden ever used bose before I thought all of the stereo's in VY/VZ/WK were Blaupunkt. Bose stuff is usually awesome so i am looking forward to hearing the system. I love the look of the WM stato and caprice I reckon they look bloody awesome, I love it

[rednut99]

Have Holden ever used bose before I thought all of the stereo's in VY/VZ/WK were Blaupunkt. Bose stuff is usually awesome so i am looking forward to hearing the system. I love the look of the WM stato and caprice I reckon they look bloody awesome, I love it

Usually Bose stuff is crap, the only good things they made havn't changed much since the 1970s, that would be the 301 and the 901, both of which are way overpriced. The lifestyle systems are just that, image and brand marketing, no quality or performance there.

I personally have a set of 301s and I love them, but they were dear at around $700 a pair, and I could have gotten speakers that were just as good for less.

The incar systems will be decent, but far from the likes of McIntosh in the Liberty GT for instance.

[spank]

Noticed in the official pics there is one that shows the rear seat of the statesman which has what looks like a tray that comes out from the middle seat at its front. What is it??????
Also noticed the caprice now has headlight washers.
was told at the launch that the centre of the front of the rear seat was drinks holders and now the dvd unit is in the rear over head console

[Sidewindr]

i went to launch today and loved the caprice, i dont know what the color (darkish kind of metallic sand) is but the one that was on the ramp looked sensational and i cant wait to see what hsv do with the grange

Didn't see you there spanky .. onya for saying hello :wave: :p

[HSE2]

My personal favourite

[spank]

Didn't see you there spanky .. onya for saying hello :wave: :p
wasnt at your sesion, i was in there at 2pm

[Sidewindr]

Here's my Caprice piccies .. Best I could do with a little DSC-W7

The images have been resized as the originals are 7MP.

Take Note Battery is in the boot on ALL models.

The Black Caprice is HORN IMHO...

http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01212.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01213.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01214.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01215.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01216.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01217.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01218.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01219.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01220.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01221.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01222.JPG
http://www.ls1.com.au/news_pics/VEReveal/Caprice/DSC01223.JPG

[Black AH CDX]

*drools*





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[Sidewindr]

It looks sweeeeet in black doesn't it ..... wonder what the black SSV will look like in the flesh ..

I guess I'll find out on the drive days .. More pics and news to come .. :D

[lowriding]

a-w-e-s-o-m-e ! What was your impression of the fit and finish and plastics, looks spot on for quality:bravo:

[Sidewindr]

a-w-e-s-o-m-e ! What was your impression of the fit and finish and plastics, looks spot on for quality:bravo:

It felt very "euro" in the finish and quality ...

[chevypower]

Usually Bose stuff is crap, the only good things they made havn't changed much since the 1970s, that would be the 301 and the 901, both of which are way overpriced. The lifestyle systems are just that, image and brand marketing, no quality or performance there.

I personally have a set of 301s and I love them, but they were dear at around $700 a pair, and I could have gotten speakers that were just as good for less.

The incar systems will be decent, but far from the likes of McIntosh in the Liberty GT for instance.

I disagree, i never liked my neighbors Bose Lifestyle system they had, lacked mid range, sounded like tin, with a bit of bass only from the sub... listened to the Lifestyle 18 yesterday at Myer (their bottom of the range home theatre version) wow, what an improvement, i want one - but i would aspire for the top of the line version.

And really, anything would be better than the Blaupunkt in my dads WK Caprice, that system is really not that good for a $70,000 car

interested to hear the Bose in the Caprice

[Sidewindr]

The thing that Mr Bose was really good at was marketing .. audiophiles around the world know that Bose is nothing special ;)

[Maverick]

Silly statement probably but has anyone else noticed that the head unit (?) of the bose and blaupunkit looks exactly the same other than the name - is it just the speakers differing or is there an extra amp etc.?

[steen]

Usually Bose stuff is crap, the only good things they made havn't changed much since the 1970s, that would be the 301 and the 901, both of which are way overpriced. The lifestyle systems are just that, image and brand marketing, no quality or performance there.

I personally have a set of 301s and I love them, but they were dear at around $700 a pair, and I could have gotten speakers that were just as good for less.

The incar systems will be decent, but far from the likes of McIntosh in the Liberty GT for instance.
Can't argue with anything you've said... ;) I wasn't aware Liberty GT had McIntosh gear. Seriously good stuff. GMH just should've specced higher model Blaupunkt or Klipsch/Infinity/JBL/Polk if name cache was important. Bose did have some good noise cancellation tech, though.

[Black AH CDX]

After hearing the Bose systems in the Mazda SP23 and MX5 i can only hope that the Caprice's Bose system is much better than these shockers

[Ryzz]

Ok Guys, here are the offical Caprice Photos from the Holden Media CD. Note: Click on the Thumbnail to open in a new window.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/059-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/059.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/060-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/060.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/061-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/061.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/062-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/062.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/063-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/063.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/064-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/064.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/065-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/065.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/066-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/066.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/067-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/067.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/068-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/068.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/069-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/069.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/070-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/070.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/071-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/071.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/072-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/072.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/073-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/073.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/074-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/074.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/075-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/075.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/076-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/076.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/077-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/077.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/078-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/078.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/079-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/079.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/080-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/080.jpg) http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/LowRes%2072dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/081-t.jpg (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/HiRes%20300dpi/03%20WM%20Caprice/081.jpg)

[Sidewindr]

Usually Bose stuff is crap, the only good things they made havn't changed much since the 1970s, that would be the 301 and the 901, both of which are way overpriced. The lifestyle systems are just that, image and brand marketing, no quality or performance there.

I personally have a set of 301s and I love them, but they were dear at around $700 a pair, and I could have gotten speakers that were just as good for less.

The incar systems will be decent, but far from the likes of McIntosh in the Liberty GT for instance.

I have a set of Series V 901's and they are pretty ordinary I have to say .. I threw them in the bin as my bottom of the range Infinity speakers made the 901's sound like tin cans on string.

[V-Car]

Silly statement probably but has anyone else noticed that the head unit (?) of the bose and blaupunkit looks exactly the same other than the name - is it just the speakers differing or is there an extra amp etc.?

As far as i know, Bose ususally just does amps and speakers, not headunits.
The two cars ive owned that had Bose systems had standard headunits without amps, but with bose speakers in specially designed enclosures with inbuilt amps, allowing them to put their name on the headunit.
They were ok, but nothing special, and either amps or speakers give up before regular speakers do, and are expensive to replace.
GM has long had a tie up with Bose, but there are much better aftermarket suppliers doing factory sound systems now with three of the best arguably being the 5.1 surround Mark Levinson system in Lexus, the Dolby Pro-Logic sytem in top Volvo's, and the ELS DVD system in top Acura's (Hondas).
However Bose apparently do very good systems in the Porsche Cayenne, Hondas and Cadillacs.

Others are:
BMW Harmon Kardon
Chrysler Boston Acoustics
Jaguar Alpine
Lincoln THX-Certified

[jamesd]

I think i'm in love! I can wait to be inside one of those!

[Sidewindr]

This is the car I'd be buying when next in the market for a new car ...

I love it, the black one looks fantastic and the appointments are excelent as well.

[Redline]

This is the car I'd be buying when next in the market for a new car ...I am really biting my tongue on this one Sidey :lmao: :lmao:

[Sidewindr]

Here's my video from my DCS-W7 of the Caprice on the runway ..

Caprice On the Reveal Runway (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/VE_Reveal_Videos/Caprice.avi)

[lowriding]

However Bose apparently do very good systems in the Porsche Cayenne, Hondas and Cadillacs.

Others are:
BMW Harmon Kardon
Chrysler Boston Acoustics
Jaguar Alpine
Lincoln THX-Certified

I would never think of buying Bose as far as home hifi is concerned . But automotive wise i had an S6 RX7 with a factory bose setup and i had no complaints at all at the time.(nearly 10 years ago !) Sounded great. As another poster said earlier it would have to be an improvement on the Blaupunkt systems Holden used in the VX/Y/Z & WH/K/L.

[Aus8]

Yeah anything has to be better than those Blaupunkt shockers in VY/Z. Embarrasing really.

[Sidewindr]

Yeah anything has to be better than those Blaupunkt shockers in VY/Z. Embarrasing really.

I don't mind cheap crappy speakers in the delivered car as that's one of the first things i replace .. The head unit now that is another matter, if they designed/included one that had all the latest features and included a PROPER RCA 5V preout level outputs for input into an AMP then that would be sweet.

Good head deck/AV and then add your own amps and speakers/subs etc etc.

[dcholden]

Can you guys view the high res images posted up on previous page? I think there is a prob with the link, unless my PC is doing something totally odd! Can't wait to take a look at the high res shots!

[Sidewindr]

Just fixed them...

[dcholden]

Just fixed them...
Thanks Sidewindr, much appreciated!

[Swordie]

What qualifies people for an invite to launch? Wish I could of gone.

[chevypower]

The new Volvo S80 is supposed to have a nice Dynaudio system - very good brand of speakers.
I hope the Bose system in the Caprice delivers like Bose can. Audio experts use Bose for monitoring their work because of their superior sound, they are also used in some concerts where clarity and accoustics have high importance. Is Bose in the Caprice just a name for marketing purposes or will it deliver? and enough about the sound system, are the engines E85 compatible like USA GM engines? there was an article today how E85 would cost $1 a litre here at the moment

[myles]

Forget about the 300 C.

I want a Caprice in black. :D

[SteveK]

Forget about the 300 C.

I want a Caprice in black. :D

Agreed, A nice mesh grille on the front, some decent 22" inch wheels and low stance, all in Black and it's "300C Who?".

Send one to the UK for Jeremy Clarkson to review. He'll lurv it.

Steve.

[Holden Man]

Photochop of Caprice.

Pimped !

I think either I've watched to much "pimp my ride" on fox or played with my 4yo son's "hotwheels" cars too much !

http://www.charous.com/uploads/bf48999b6c.jpg (http://www.charous.com)

[chevypower]

maybe a Caprice V ?

[HSE2]

This is the car I'd be buying when next in the market for a new car ...

I love it, the black one looks fantastic and the appointments are excelent as well.

They should be giving you one for services render!

Is there a spec sheet for appointments on this yet and if so can someone point me in the right direction please

[Sidewindr]

They should be giving you one for services render!

Is there a spec sheet for appointments on this yet and if so can someone point me in the right direction please
Wouldn't that be nice :) .. pipe dream however ... :bawl:

[kayman]

Photochop of Caprice.

Pimped !

I think either I've watched to much "pimp my ride" on fox or played with my 4yo son's "hotwheels" cars too much !

http://www.charous.com/uploads/bf48999b6c.jpg (http://www.charous.com)


Umm... thats a Calais V :P

[Goggs]

In the first set of photos, second from bottom, what's the go with the cut-out either side of the fast glass/elec mirror control? Is that just a fancy "Jesus Handle"? What about the button on the front of it??

[XLR8 V8]

In the first set of photos, second from bottom, what's the go with the cut-out either side of the fast glass/elec mirror control? Is that just a fancy "Jesus Handle"? What about the button on the front of it??

Surely you've seen a handbrake before? :teach: :yup:

[Goggs]

Surely you've seen a handbrake before? :teach: :yup:
Ahh that'd be it - the matching cut-out on the other side had me thrown for a bit!!:doh:

[HRT433]

Caprice V-Series anyone.....

http://www.hrt433.com/images/creations/caprice-v.jpg

You can use your imagination to fill in what might be hiding behind the enlarged intakes at the front....

[Wezza]

That looks f'n sweet!! :) I gotta admit, you're a bit alright at photoshopping!! Do you mind if i use your pics on another forum if i put your name to it?

[HRT433]

no probs, as long as I get credit I don't mind, PM the forum to me when you've posted it so I can have look

[Holden Man]

Umm... thats a Calais V :P

Hi Kayman, lucky you pointed that out. I would have looked like a real d---head if I posted that on the LS1 forum as a Caprice...........OH hang on.......gotta go... :hide:

(I thought there was something weird going on as it didn't look right as a caprice)

[spank]

im due for a new limo in june 07 , hsv will have to come up with something special to get an extra 20k out of me for a new grange over this new caprice, i really liked the other caprice that was at the launch (ie not the black one) and as good as your pics are sidey they dont even come close to showing how good these new caprices look , and with a price drop they are even more appealing

[kayman]

Hi Kayman, lucky you pointed that out. I would have looked like a real d---head if I posted that on the LS1 forum as a Caprice...........OH hang on.......gotta go... :hide:

(I thought there was something weird going on as it didn't look right as a caprice)


LOL, ;).


Doesnt matter mate, still looks sexy as.

[dcholden]

Interesting, Holden website doesn't have anything in great detail up yet. However found this on a dealers site. Interesting according to this, the statesman doesn't get Xenon lights, just normal projectors.



Statesman and Caprice

The new 2007 Statesman and Caprice feature the new 3.6 litre High Performance 195kW Alloytec engine matched with the new 5 speed automatic transmission with Active Select, or the famous Gen 4 6.0 litre V8 engine with all new 6 speed auto with Active Select producing 270kW.


Features:-
Multi link Independent Rear Suspension (IRS)
Projector headlamps
Front fog-lamps
Electronic throttle control
5 speed auto trans with active select (6 speed with V8)
Front & rear reading lamps
Steering wheel height and reach adjustment
Leather wrap steering wheel & gear selector
Cruise control
Rain sensing wipers
Courtesy lamps on all doors
Heated power mirrors
Door entry lamps
Rear parking sensors
Front park assist
Luggage net in trunk
Auto on headlights
12 function trip computer
Sound system remote controls on steering wheel
6 stack in-dash CD/MP3 player with 11 speakers
Roof mounted antenna
Leather trim
Driver and passenger lumbar supports
Dual zone climate control air conditioning
Power windows
17 " alloy wheels
Priority key system
LED rear tail-lights
Engine immobilizer/alarm
8 way electric adjustment of front seats
Sunglasses holder
Bluetooth mobile phone connectivity
3 year / 100,000 km warranty
3 year roadside assistance
Optional limited slip differential
Optional sun roof
Optional satellite navigation
Optional electric sunroof
Optional overhead DVD player

Safety
Driver, passenger, side impact and curtain airbags
Seat belt pre-tensioners
Active front head restraints
Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD)
Electronic Brake Assist (EBA)
Cornering Brake Control
Electronic Stability Program (ESP)
Traction Control System(TCS)
Cornering lights






Statesman and Caprice have been the most popular Australian built prestige cars for some years now, and the new WM range has been engineered to ensure this leadership continues through 2007.



Caprice




Caprice features (in addition to Statesman features listed above)
18 inch alloy wheels
Sports luxury suspension incorporating reduced ride height & firmer springs
Bi-Xenon headlamps
Heated electric exterior mirrors with position memory
Type pressure monitor
DVD player with dual screens
10 way adjustable electric seats
Driver's seat position memory
Optional electric sunroor
Optional satellite navigation



Recommended prices for all model and options.



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Should you desire further information please use our New Car Enquiry on-line form.

Request a brochure





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Last modified: July 24, 2006

[F6Mauz]

Got to oogle and sit in a black VE Caprice tonight. A good friend is an engineer and was kind enough to let me to get comfortable with it:love:
First impression is that doesn't look that big at all, just very chunky. Those front 1/4 panels are :bow: The led indicators look fantastic. Overall it's a PIMP car. Interior was very nice, just so much room. Love the new keys flicking them open. It was a 6 litre and it had a niced deep throaty sound to it on take off.
I can see the LWB VE's selling very well.
I think we will see one in the driveway in the not too distant future:yup:

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/CSVLS1/Image2.jpg

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/CSVLS1/Image3.jpg

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/CSVLS1/Image4.jpg

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/CSVLS1/Image5.jpg

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/CSVLS1/Image6.jpg

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/CSVLS1/Image1.jpg

[Stevotski]

Got to oogle and sit in a black VE Caprice tonight.


Is it hard to see the fuel and temperature guages? or is it just the narrow field of vision from the camera phone that makes it look like that?

I'd love a black caprice too :) more probably just an SV6 on the cards for me though :limpy:

[F6Mauz]

Is it hard to see the fuel and temperature guages? or is it just the narrow field of vision from the camera phone that makes it look like that?

I'd love a black caprice too :) more probably just an SV6 on the cards for me though :limpy:

It wasn't hard to see. Everything was in view.

[STATIE]

Looks like someone's been hanging out in Lygon st with their shiny new turboed Ford banana again, aye Moz?

Nearly got ya in the crewie the other day:lol:

[F6Mauz]

Looks like someone's been hanging out in Lygon st with their shiny new turboed Ford banana again, aye Moz?

Nearly got ya in the crewie the other day:lol:

Banana's in high demand these days:P

Yeah it's a shame about the traffic:p

[Ghosn]

I can't help but think XC Falcon every time i look at the Caprice dash.

[VZSS250]

I can't help but think XC Falcon every time i look at the Caprice dash.

Thats a big call but I see the connection. But at the same time the guage layout is fresh/original.

The problem I see is with the centre stack of the dash. It seems to be a watered down version of the SWB sedans. So plain and so not Caprice like.

[XLR8 V8]

Pics hosted for Rob.
WM pics with HSVi boot spoiler and a Caddy CTS at the neighbours

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/WM/IMG_0528_sml.JPG http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/WM/IMG_0531_sml.JPG

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/WM/IMG_0497_sml.JPG http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/WM/IMG_0498_sml.JPG
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/WM/IMG_0501_sml.JPG

[jaykay]

That WM is sex on wheels. 20" to be exact. Can't wait to see them in the flesh :bow:

[korrupt]

The Caddy looks pretty rough compared to a VE. Stato looks the goods tho. Classy spoiler.

[paulvdb]

The Caddy looks pretty rough compared to a VE. Stato looks the goods tho. Classy spoiler.

Actually the caddy looks antique in comparison. I don't understand the US guys carrying on that the VE will need "US Steel" around it to look good. The only thing saving the caddy is the front end which is quite interesting - at least in 2006 (in a few years it might date poorly)

[SCiFiRE]

The Caprice is by far my fav in the new range so far,
and Ive seen all the models inside and out.

everytime i walk past one in black i mistake it for a grange. Just because it looks cool enough to be one. HSV are going to have to do something VERY cool

[Janus]

So by looking at the specs posted on the previous page, what is really different from the Calais V? It has Xenons instead of projectors, DVD screens in the seats instead of overhead and of course the extra leg room, but nothing huge stands out.

I was hoping that they would take this chance to make more of a difference between the short and long wheel base models, as up until now they have basically been Calais with extra leg room and an analogue clock on the dash.

I was also hoping they would put some different toys in, like a TV tuner etc.

[BlueVZSS]

Pics hosted for Rob.
WM pics with HSVi boot spoiler and a Caddy CTS at the neighbours


The boot lip spoiler looks good. It is the best spoiler on a VE IMHO.

I noticed that the Caddy is right hand drive. I wonder if we are getting them here.

[VZSS250]

Yeah I agree, a TV tuner is whats needed. DVD players only get used on 2hour plus drives, and if you're a person who only goes on holiday at christmas time, then the DVD screens will never get flicked on.

[Janus]

Exactly, I quite often have to wait for someone, like waiting to pick my brother up from work, and it would be nice to be able to kill 15 minutes by watching a bit of The Simpsons or the news. I can't really see myself throwing in a DVD to watch 15 minutes of a movie.

I wonder how hard to would be to have an after market TV tuner intergrated into the system?

[Drizt]

Yeah I agree, a TV tuner is whats needed. DVD players only get used on 2hour plus drives, and if you're a person who only goes on holiday at christmas time, then the DVD screens will never get flicked on.

Can you actually get tv tuners that work in cars?

[Janus]

Can you actually get tv tuners that work in cars?

Mercedes, BMW, Audi etc. all have them as options, most now have digital tuners and work great, at least in Europe.

You can also buy a load of aftermarket ones to be fitted in any car with your screens, although I have never actually used one.

[timshall1]

Agreed, A nice mesh grille on the front, some decent 22" inch wheels and low stance, all in Black and it's "300C Who?".

Send one to the UK for Jeremy Clarkson to review. He'll lurv it.

Steve.


Damn right mate! In fact, send us a Caprice, an SS V, a Calais V and an HSV GTS for Clarkson to have a mosey round. As soon as he gave them the nod there'd be massive interest from punters over here and GMH might get on with importing them for us! We need these cars in the UK!

Tim

[elisiX]

So what to go with.. the LWB Caprice or the Senator for the same money.

Extra length or extra 30KW.

[fyreblade2000]

There's something about a Jet BLACK statesman that defines COOL!!!!

With the 20 inch wheels it's got that MAYBACH EXELERO look about it.

Needs the new HSV Brakes and it would be perfect.

[Ghosn]

So what to go with.. the LWB Caprice or the Senator for the same money.

Extra length or extra 30KW.

Why not get the best of both worlds? Can you afford a grange? If so wait until it gets released.

[RICHO]

The boot lip spoiler looks good. It is the best spoiler on a VE IMHO.

I noticed that the Caddy is right hand drive. I wonder if we are getting them here.


Is it just me or are Caddys the answer to a question that no-one in Australia has asked??

Just my Opinion but....

VE vs Caddy - VE Wins
HSV VE vs Caddy - VE Wins

GM don't need a "premium" brand here...at least, not one with poorer build quality than their "everyday" models

[FunkyPig]

That's true, Cadillac needs to improve more before they should be introduced. The CTS (soon to end I know) has the same engine as a Commodore with a smaller interior, crappy perceived quality, and no doubt a big price tag. The only reason it would sell is due to its exclusivity. IF they bring Cadillac, I vote only sell the STS and XLR until new and worthy products are released.


Damn right mate! In fact, send us a Caprice, an SS V, a Calais V and an HSV GTS for Clarkson to have a mosey round. As soon as he gave them the nod there'd be massive interest from punters over here and GMH might get on with importing them for us! We need these cars in the UK!

Tim

Holden have confirmed that exports to the UK will continue. Most likely as with the Monaro, a very low volume niche 'halo' car for the Vauxhall brand. Hopefully they send more over than the 300 Monaros per year. I'd say they'll Have a "Vauxhall Commodore 6.0 (SSV)" and a "Vauxhall Commodore VXR (Clubsport)" for similar money the "Vauxhall Monaro" was.

It would be nice if they sent other variants over to create more volume, maybe even a V6 for the base model (SV6?). A 190kW 3.6L is still a massive engine in the UK.

[timshall1]

Holden have confirmed that exports to the UK will continue. Most likely as with the Monaro, a very low volume niche 'halo' car for the Vauxhall brand. Hopefully they send more over than the 300 Monaros per year. I'd say they'll Have a "Vauxhall Commodore 6.0 (SSV)" and a "Vauxhall Commodore VXR (Clubsport)" for similar money the "Vauxhall Monaro" was.

It would be nice if they sent other variants over to create more volume, maybe even a V6 for the base model (SV6?). A 190kW 3.6L is still a massive engine in the UK.

That's good news. I reckon you're spot on with the idea of sending over a V6 too, because as you say even that's bigger than the average engine size over here. Wouldn't be the one for me though...V8 all the way; preferably GTS. And I'd rip the "Vauxhall" badges off in about 1/2 a second and replace them with "HSV"! I also reckon that since the VE is such an advanced, well developed car compared to the previous generation it could fit in a lot better over here, justifying a much bigger import run than just 300 cars a year.

If they don't import them, I guess I'll just have to do it myself!

Cheers

Tim

[Fnomna]

Officially launched

3.6-litre High Output Alloytec V6: 11.7 litres per 100 kilometres.

6.0-litre Generation IV V8: 14.4 litres per 100 kilometres.



Holden Launches WM Statesman And Caprice Flagships

GM Media
1 September 2006
www.media.gm.com

Holden today officially launched its top-of-the-range WM Statesman and Caprice models, offering more differentiation from their short wheelbase siblings than ever before.

First revealed alongside the VE Commodore in mid-July, the all-new Holden flagships will make their Australian sales debut in September and set sail for export markets soon after.

The product of a $190 million investment on top of the $1.03 billion VE program, the new generation long-wheelbase sedans deliver benchmark levels of build quality, ride refinement, safety and spacious comfort for locally built sedans.

Holden has announced its pricing strategy for the prestige pair, with the V8-powered Caprice positioned under $70,000 and priced below the previous generation V6 model.

At $69,990, the new WM Caprice is $5400 less than the equivalent WL model, a drop of 7.1 per cent. The Caprice V6 at $65,990 is $4700 or 6.6 per cent below the previous model.

The new Statesman V6 and V8 models are priced at $58,990 and $62,990 respectively.

GM Holden Chairman and Managing Director, Denny Mooney, said WM Statesman and Caprice were flagship models capable of capturing worldwide attention.

“The WM models are confident, global designs which show that Australians can make truly compelling cars,” Mr Mooney said.

“Statesman and Caprice have more differentiation from the short wheelbase cars than ever before and the result is two stand alone vehicles with distinct identities.

“They are spacious, comfortable and offer fantastic ride and handling for cars of that size. Domestic and overseas customers will be proud to have these vehicles in their possession.”

WM Statesman and Caprice were launched at their place of manufacture, Holden’s Elizabeth plant in Adelaide, South Australia.

Since 1999, Holden has shipped more than 82,000 of its long wheelbase sedans to markets in the Middle East, China, South Korea and New Zealand.

In 2005, GM-branded models based on the WL series recorded export sales more than seven times higher than the number sold in Australia.

The major market for Holden’s long wheelbase cars, the Middle East, will again be the primary destination for WM.

Singular style

Holden designers took advantage of brand new body architecture to create the most individual offerings in the history of the Statesman and Caprice nameplates.

Characterised by a stretched silhouette and a wide stance accentuated by flared wheel arches, the WM series Statesman and Caprice make a powerful impression.

They differ significantly from their Commodore siblings despite sharing the same rigid basic body structure.

Major aspects of the interior design, including the instrument pad, cluster, centre console, seating, door trims, fabrics and finishes, are also exclusive.

Holden Design Director, Tony Stolfo, said the long wheelbase sedans were intended to stand apart and make their own statement.

“WM Statesman and Caprice had to echo the best elements of Holden DNA − mature design, great proportion, purposeful stance and style,” Mr Stolfo said.

“You notice immediately that they have real presence. In profile you can see that the longer rear door is the key to the dramatic new proportion, accentuated by a sweeping roofline and substantial wheel and tyre packages.

“We’ve maintained the fantastic interior dimensions these cars are renowned for and every aspect has been specifically designed to give our buyers a unique prestige driving environment.”

In classic saloon style, the radiator grille is the focal point of the front graphic. Housed on the ‘drop down’ engine hood, it incorporates the nameplates’ exclusive lion and wreath emblem.

Detail highlights include signature LED repeater lamps in the fender vents, striking LED tail lamps and bright chrome accents. The jewelled headlamp design is unique.

In a first for a locally manufactured car, Caprice offers advanced Bi Xenon headlamp technology. Light output from the high intensity discharge Bi Xenon lamps is up to four times brighter than halogen bulbs and the system features automatic levelling and integrated headlamp washers.

Overall styling themes for Caprice reflect a sports character whilst Statesman is prestige comfort orientated.

Caprice cruises on bold five spoke 18 x 8-inch wheels. Statesman rides on detailed ten spoke 17x7-inch alloys. There is a choice of nine exterior finishes, five of them new to the range.

Interior

Like the VE, the all-new Statesman and Caprice offer a spacious and safe passenger compartment with optimised storage, packaging and ergonomics.

Themes for the specialist interior design team were comfort, sophistication, harmony, luxury and attention to detail.

The expansive instrument pad features a wide binnacle, unique chrome-ringed instrument cluster and integrated centre stack with a high resolution 6.5-inch multifunction colour screen, zoned audio and climate controls and satin chrome detailing.

Generously proportioned seating is contoured differently for each model and tailored in twin-stitched leather trim. All doors have large storage boxes able to accommodate 600ml drink bottles upright and the storage compartment in the centre console is topped by a sliding armrest.

In the roomy rear, where longer doors make for even easier entry and exit, cup holders pop out of the seat base and the fold-down centre armrest incorporates a storage tray.

Feature highlights

Statesman has rich woodgrain accents and extensive standard equipment including eight-way electric front seats; visual front and rear park assist; auto rain-sensing wipers; 11-speaker, 230 watt sound system with six disc CD player and roof-mounted diversity antenna; MP3 and Bluetooth mobile phone connectivity; night mode dash illumination and exterior mirrors with ‘puddle’ lamps.

Drivers can access 16 personalisation options and functions and a help function built into text screens explains features at the touch of a button.

New high-performance flat blade wipers have washer nozzles mounted on the arms and a high-tech acoustic windscreen dampens glass-borne noise.

Optional is a factory-fitted sunroof, designed to integrate seamlessly with the optional roof-mounted DVD player with wireless headphones, which can be dealer-fitted at any stage.

Caprice elevates the luxury level with authentic aluminium accent, deep-bolstered front sports seats with ten-way electric adjustment, ‘soft touch’ leather and suede trim.

There is a Bose premium audio system, remote control three-screen DVD with roof console and a Tri-zone electronic climate control system with foot level ducting to the rear compartment.

Further equipment includes a tyre pressure monitor and extra priority flip key memory preferences, such as seating positions for three drivers and exterior mirror placements.

Fully integrated turn by turn or full map navigation will be available later in the year, as will a choice of three telematics systems.

Safety systems

Safety systems for the WM Statesman and Caprice were developed in tandem with VE Commodore.

Their purpose is to help drivers avoid crashes and provide better protection should a crash occur by minimising intrusion into the passenger compartment.

Development began with the largest virtual crash modelling program Holden has ever undertaken. Emphasis was placed on considering the wide range of impact scenarios that occur in real world accident situations and differing occupant criteria.

Safety technologies were benchmarked against the world’s leading luxury brands and major engineering programs delivered a stiffer body structure and vastly increased usage of advanced strength steels.

Multiple load path strategies for frontal, side and rear impacts improve passenger compartment integrity. They are complemented by an improved multipoint airbag sensing system and an adaptive restraint system which includes dual stage front airbags, thorax side impact airbags, curtain airbags and front seat active head restraints as standard equipment.

Structurally optimised crush zones absorb crash energy and other occupant protection features include a steering column ride-down mechanism and breakaway brake pedal.

In terms of active safety technology, Statesman and Caprice come complete with the highly commended Electronic Stability Program (ESP®), traction control and anti-lock braking systems, electronic brake assist and electronic brakeforce distribution.

Powertrain

WM Statesman and Caprice can be specified with a choice of V8 or V6 powerplants, matched to Holden’s smooth-shifting five and six-speed automatic transmissions with Active Select tap up/down control located on the shifter.

Both have all new, full length dual exhaust systems with twin or quad outlets according to engine size.

The Generation IV 6.0 litre V8 alloy (L98) engine delivers increased peak power and torque of 270kW @ 5700rpm and 530Nm @ 4400rpm using 98 RON fuel.

It benefits from performance-oriented calibration and a high-flow exhaust for responsive launch feel.

The Alloytec High Output 3.6 litre V6 with new variable intake manifold also offers extra peak power and torque of 195kW @ 6500rpm and 340Nm @ 2600 rpm using 91 RON fuel.

Further refinements provide a livelier launch response, reduced drive noise and improved cold start and running performance.

Fuel economy (ADR081/01)

3.6-litre High Output Alloytec V6: 11.7 litres per 100 kilometres.

6.0-litre Generation IV V8: 14.4 litres per 100 kilometres.

Driving dynamics

Given the world-class structural stiffness of WM models, Holden chassis engineers had a solid base to work from in giving the vehicles a poised and responsive ride and handling character.

The introduction of new Linear Control Suspension has increased primary ride control attributes and isolation qualities and sharpened Holden’s traditional edge in chassis dynamics and ride comfort.

The refined multi-link system is the result of an eight-year development program. It has high lateral stiffness and a rubber isolated suspension frame that helps isolate the body from road imperfections and drivetrain vibrations.

It is supplemented among other advances by a forward-mounted steering rack, all-new larger brake systems and specifically developed wheel and tyre combinations.

The new brakes reduce stopping distance by around five metres. With lightweight aluminium calipers all round, increased pad area and larger rotors front and rear, they are more fade-resistant and provide a stiffer brake pedal feel.

There is a 16-inch V6 brake package and a 17-inch performance version for V8 versions.

A cleverly designed park brake is integrated into the centre console, allowing a simple switch for left-hand-drive and right-hand-drive applications.

Color selection

*Sandstorm − warm neutral satin gold metallic

*Red Passion − rich saturated metallic red with mica highlight

*Nickel − mechanical dark silver with metallic highlight

*Evoke − smoky metallic charcoal

*Crema − buttery gold mica

Odyssey – dark mercury silver

Vespers – dark inky blue metallic

Heron − solid white

Phantom − metallic black with silver highlights

*denotes new

Recommended Retail Pricing

Holden WM Caprice and Statesman

(excluding dealer and government charges)

Statesman V6 $58,990

Statesman V8 $62,990

Caprice V6 $65,990

Caprice V8 $69,990

On sale

September 2006.

ESP is a registered trademark of Daimler Chrysler AG

Power and torque figures as per ECE regulations

[korrupt]

Hats off to Holden on their new pricing structure. V8 Caprice for under $70K. :thumbsup:

[XLR8 V8]

The new "real world" (non-studio/rendered) pics + some nice new studio shots of the Stato and Caprice are up on Wieck now ... they're very big though (2-6mb each)

[Holden Man]

I might be a loser but what is wieck.

[Fnomna]

seach and you will find, if your query is WM
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/search.php?searchid=1711830&pp=25&page=2

(lame attempt at a cryptic clue)

Nice pics. House is a bit small aint it?

[XLR8 V8]

I might be a loser but what is wieck.

GM's image site (http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/*query?ws4d_nav=true&search_criteria=holden&source=all&page=1)

[Holden Man]

seach and you will find WM
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/search.php?searchid=1711830&pp=25&page=2

(lame attempt at a cryptic clue)

Thank you Fnomna.


GM's (http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/*query?ws4d_nav=true&search_criteria=holden&source=all&page=1) image site

Theres some good stuff there for chopping !

[SteveK]

The new "real world" (non-studio/rendered) pics + some nice new studio shots of the Stato and Caprice are up on Wieck now ... they're very big though (2-6mb each)

Not only that but some of their sketches should've ended up with HSV for the Grange.

http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?032691
http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?032689
http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?032686
http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?032685
http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?032684
http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?032683
http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?032682

Steve.

[Fnomna]

They just well may have Steve ;)

[V-Car]

Had a chance to crawl all over a Caprice last wednesday at the Dowerin Field Day.
They look sensational IMHO, far better style wise than the SWB cars, which im still not a fan of.
Scan from the brochure.
http://www.e-wire.net.au/~eb_recci/r/Caprice_side.jpg

[XLR8 V8]

Didn't realise I hadn't posted up the PDFs of the brochures:

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/WM/Caprice.pdf

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/WM/Stato.pdf

[HSE2]

That extra 100 or so in the rear end really make a difference tot eh look of the VE. The Caprice with 20s the stand out car of the range. The Grange should be something special again.

[BRISVX]

The WM Caprice looks absolutely magnificient. Holden really have done an outstanding job on this one. Big congratulations to them. If I had the $, I'd be placing an order today.

Memo to self......save, save, save!

[VZSS250]

I placed an order this weekend for a V8 Caprice. The Caprice is a standout in the range and is better suited to the higher stance of the VE. And the equipment levels were just too much to overlook.

In an age of anti-hooning laws and fixed speed cameras at every second set of lights, a Caprice is a good way to go. I'll post some pics when I take delivery.

[nickh]

ive got some pics of a new caprice with HBD 20s and the boot deck spoiler.

Id love one in black with a cream/tan black trim and nicely lowered.

ill get the pics up over the next few days

[elisiX]

Now that sounds very nice. :bounce:

[Fnomna]

There's currently a shipload of WMs around the Holden factory. All LHD with the Chev bowtie grilles - some with SS badges on the sides, which didn't really suit the look. Don't think I saw any with a Holden badge. The WMs look so good - especially the headlights. The VE should have lights more like this - maybe next model.
The SWB cars with the Chev grille also looked a lot better than the huge Holden badge.

[Smitty]

does anyone know if they are on sale yet...???

reason for asking I saw one parked in Hampton today
dark grey/charcoal colour with a camel coloured leather interior

even my missus went...whoa look at that..nice:bravo:
(no..I didn't have my camera..bugger)


cheers

[Fnomna]

GoAuto WM review
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/72E708851C7EBDEFCA2571DC001297D0?OpenDocument

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/ED809A5202C2BAECCA2571DC00171A43

[Ricky]

Looks alright actually.

[VZSS250]

Now I'm worried...target market is aged 40+. Maybe that changes if you option it with 20s and the lip spoiler.

[NickS]

Now I'm worried...target market is aged 40+. Maybe that changes if you option it with 20s and the lip spoiler.
Not really ... don't get me wrong, I love the car, but to me the Statesman & Caprice always scream "Grandpa" :lol: :stick:

Better go and hide now :hide:

[HSVMAN]

Not really ... don't get me wrong, I love the car, but to me the Statesman & Caprice always scream "Grandpa" :lol: :stick:
Better go and hide now :hide:

You're right. At least that is the image they have had up till now.
Target market is 40+ only because of affordability. They are even going to actually advertise the WM range now!

[madone]

I think in future the Grandpa tag will only apply to the Statesman and people will genuienly aspire to the Caprice. I can just see those 300C values plummeting!

[VZSS250]

I wanted to buy a 300C. Best price I could get was $65,000 on the road, with maximum haggling pressure. At that price, I decided to wait for the VE to see if any car in the range would be more appealing. I would hate to drop that amount of cash and then wish I had waited. In the end my decision was right.

I was thinking more along the lines of a HSV, but the Caprice was more comparable to the 300C for pimp factor and the brochure won me over. Also, we've had statesmans go through the family since the HQ Statesman was released.

The 300C can't match the Caprice for equipment, build quality or performance times.

[Baddaz]

Interesting?
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/baddaz/images/Caprice1.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n221/mikes_turbo_world_747_2/IMG_0582_1.jpg
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/baddaz/images/statesman1.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n221/mikes_turbo_world_747_2/IMG_0580_1.jpg
Who copyed who?

[FunkyPig]

Who copyed who?
They're different versions of the same car so naturally they'll look similar. I do see some small similarities between the grille on the Caprice and Senator though, but who cares.

[elisiX]

Anyone have a picture of the Senator in Black.

[Wezza]

Baddaz, Holden is the donor car, so you would have to think HSV might have, but even then i can't see how anyone would confuse the two.

P.S. How hot is that black Caprice! Can't wait to see the grange.

[Ghosn]

Who copyed who?

I wonder?

http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/vz/wallpapers/senator_1024.jpg

[HSVMAN]

Interesting?
Who copyed who?
Whilst that is LWB Caprice compared to SWB Senator.....
Note that LWB cars share only 2 panels with SWB now. The front doors :)
And LWB platform was developed first and then shortened for the SWB.

Bit of useless info for ya :)

[swst]

Grange will be awesome, when is the release date fot it?

[VZSS250]

The headlights and airdam on the Caprice are unique and properly differentiate the flagship from other Holden models and the Senator. And the massive wreathed emblem leaves no doubt about the car's ID.

You wouldn't expect much more differentiation than that in the front end. They're both amazing looking cars, though I'm glad Holden resisted using a matt finish on the bottom of the car.

[cev]

In the past im sorry that I tended to agree that the Statesman and the Caprice were 'Grandpa' cars or vehicles driven by some old company directors who are in BRW, but I must admit now that the Caprice is absolutely stunning. :bravo:

I would like to see what they will be worth in about 2-3 years time as I would seriously think about buying one.

It would be perfect if it had the Calais style tailights, thats my only minor issue.

This silver one is absolutely immaculate... I love it...Its shape is fantastic...Classy but sporty at the same time...

http://www.holden.com.au//images/uploads/gallery_images/caprice/img_caprice_01.jpg

[elisiX]

It really is a great looking car.. I managed to have a good look at Arncliffe Suttons.

However, this thing is bloody massive!!!.. im talking Audi A8 in length!.

I think if I was going to be purchasing a vehicle of this type, i'd go the Senator for the same money. A little more practical (size) and more power.

[JNP304]

Me and the missus are blown away at how hot the Caprice looks in black with the 20`s. Next car was going to be a 300C. But after seeing the Caprice in the flesh it looks to be a lot better finished than the 300C.
Lowered with 20`s, tint and lip spoiler, there is no way its grandpas car.
Cant wait to get one...keep saving in meantime.
VZSS250 you will have to post up pics when you take delivery, sounds very nice and better looking than the Senator in my opinion.

[VZSS250]

My Caprice is going to be black with 20s and lip spoiler. Pics will definately follow but at this point the late October/early November delivery date seems an eternity away.

I decided against the Senator because:

- After having lost my licence for six months in a modded VX SS in 2003 I decided a stock V8 was enough;
- The matt black finish at the bottom of the Senator and around the driving lights doesn't look the best - 16 years ago VN Executives got the same treatment;
- No Bose Stereo in the Senator;
- No DVD screens in the rear head rests in the Senator;
- The extra size gives the Caprice an imposing presence on the road, without resorting to spoilers and side skirts;
- Senator is $7k more expensive (to give the Senator credit, this was a very decisive factor);
- The Caprice is one good looking beast.
- If I went for a HSV, I'd get the GTS with red leather and MRC with track mode.

[JNP304]

Sounds like it will be an awesome car for you mate. I agree with you about the license loss ect, simular thing here. When the modded VXSS M6 bug wears off it will be WM Caprice all the way. The wait must be killing you! Hopefully you get it soon. Hot car IMO.

[Smitty]

My Caprice is going to be black with 20s and lip spoiler. Pics will definately follow but at this point the late October/early November delivery date seems an eternity away.

I decided against the Senator because:

- After having lost my licence for six months in a modded VX SS in 2003 I decided a stock V8 was enough;


so 270kw is enuff...eh? :yup:

[Mr Moosh]

The caprice is an awesome looking beast, and optioned with bigger rims, its easily the pick of the VE/WM range. The front looks extremelly tough, but classy and unique at the same time... IMO Holden should have another model higher than Calais V, that comes with Caprice fruit, headlights, and front facia, but all in a SWB body. If only the panels on the SWB and LWB werent different, a swap could be possible..

[TimMc]

Just got the Holden email about the new Caprice. Don't usually like the LWB models, but this one is just plain awesome. Looks very european. Can't wait for the Grange!!!!

[Senator05]

I agree that the Caprice is an awesome looking car in the flesh, and it drives really nicely as well. Was lucky enough to take one for a spin a couple of weeks ago, and I can't wait to get my hands on one for keeps.

As much as I was sold on the idea of the 20" rims as per the brochure and web site, the rims in the flesh didn't inspire me. I really think that to set off the chrome accents etc of Caprice, a machined face wheel, similar to the standard rims, or something in chrome may be a better looking option, than a silver painted wheel. The photography of the Caprice with 20's gives a false impression that the rims are machined around the edge to give that 5-leaf clover effect. In real life, the smaller edges, that appear dull in the photo, are the bits that are shinier.

I reckon that some big rims similar in style to the big Merc's might be the ticket, albeit an expensive one. That said, I can't imagine anyone being unhappy with a Caprice, regardless of the rims.

Also, if anyone has found any info about lowering options for Caprice, can you please share either via reply or a PM.

Thanks.....

[fyreblade2000]

I saw the New Holden Caprice Commercial Last night...

Damn it looks good :yup: :yup:

The actor in the commerical looks pretty young. I Wonder if Holden have change there marketing strategy for the Caprice?

FB2K

[Black AH CDX]

Holden changed the Marketing strategy for the Caprice when they took out all the Woodgrain and halved the chrome, and put big wheels on it and sports suspension and the HO V8.

This was like from WK on i think

[BRISVX]

Had a good look at one today. Overall, very nice. Well put together. Few things suprised me though....no Express function on drivers window, the aluminium trim on the dash was quite a distraction (very glarey), and the centre rear seat wasn't really adequate for comfortable seating (for occasions when you are carrying 3 adults in the back......plus, although I am not tall, my head was actually touching the roof lining!......thought such a big car would have had more room). I'd been considering the Light Urban colour trim, but after seeing all the black scuff marks on the new demo car, think it might be wiser to have the darker colour. All things considered, it is great car though.......real step-up from previous model.

[VooDoo]

Took one for a spin in Brisbane today, WOW, what an awesome car. Cant wait till a few hit the auctions with 20000k's and 12mths old for $40k :D

Definately my next car. I wonder if my 408cu stroker will slot in nicely :)

[Black AH CDX]

....no Express function on drivers window


yes there is:yup:

[VZSS250]

Took delivery of my WM Caprice yesterday - 6.0 litre, Black, 20 inch rims, lip spoiler and onyx interior. This car looks like an absolute brute. Unfortunately we've been so busy at work I was only able to enjoy it for the brief time it took to drive it from the dealership to home. Then caught the tram back to work.

The dealer was nice enough to deliver it with an empty fuel tank, so I also got to fuel it up and have my first encounter with the fuel cap...I spent fifteen minutes looking for the fuel cap leaver!

It didn't take long to discover the 6.0 litre is a nice piece of work...off the line acceleration is fantastic. No disappointing lag as in a stock Gen III. The exhaust note is great too, but the tone is too high to satisfy those that like a deep rumble like the VZ Monaro stock exhaust.

Anyway, still getting pounded here at work so full thoughts and pics to follow once I've put some decent Kms into this big beast.

[VX11SS]

Took delivery of my WM Caprice yesterday - 6.0 litre, Black, 20 inch rims, lip spoiler and onyx interior. This car looks like an absolute brute. Unfortunately we've been so busy at work I was only able to enjoy it for the brief time it took to drive it from the dealership to home. Then caught the tram back to work.

The dealer was nice enough to deliver it with an empty fuel tank, so I also got to fuel it up and have my first encounter with the fuel cap...I spent fifteen minutes looking for the fuel cap leaver!

It didn't take long to discover the 6.0 litre is a nice piece of work...off the line acceleration is fantastic. No disappointing lag as in a stock Gen III. The exhaust note is great too, but the tone is too high to satisfy those that like a deep rumble like the VZ Monaro stock exhaust.

Anyway, still getting pounded here at work so full thoughts and pics to follow once I've put some decent Kms into this big beast.

Very nice, probably the pick of the range! Saw a red passion caprice (or stateman??) a couple of days ago, never ever thought Id see one in that colour in NZ .looked really nice and longer side blinkers make it stand out more, for a big car it hides its size well!!

Enjoy your new beast!!

[MISS WK]

Took delivery of my WM Caprice yesterday - 6.0 litre, Black, 20 inch rims, lip spoiler and onyx interior. This car looks like an absolute brute. Unfortunately we've been so busy at work I was only able to enjoy it for the brief time it took to drive it from the dealership to home. Then caught the tram back to work.

The dealer was nice enough to deliver it with an empty fuel tank, so I also got to fuel it up and have my first encounter with the fuel cap...I spent fifteen minutes looking for the fuel cap leaver!

It didn't take long to discover the 6.0 litre is a nice piece of work...off the line acceleration is fantastic. No disappointing lag as in a stock Gen III. The exhaust note is great too, but the tone is too high to satisfy those that like a deep rumble like the VZ Monaro stock exhaust.

Anyway, still getting pounded here at work so full thoughts and pics to follow once I've put some decent Kms into this big beast.

Congratulations on your new ride!!!! YOU LUCKY BUGGA LUGS !

I have been drooling over the Caprice since I first laid eyes on it.

In a couple of weeks I will be checking out the Grange, which they are displaying down here at the Holden VS Ford show. I know I will be tempted to get the cheque book out. LOL
And yes, I too was one of those people that said if I wasn't driving my Big Black Pimped WK, I would be driving a Big Black Pimped 300C. Well....my havn't things changed. Stuff the Chrysler....A Big Black Pimped out Grange is on my 'to have 'list. Wonder if the pricing structure for the Grange has alterred as much as it has for the Caprice?

[VZSS250]

Yes, the 300C no longer has the upper hand. The Caprice delivers a knockout blow with its extra equipment and power. And the 300C's interior looks like that of a Baghdad taxi compared to the WM Caprice (WK/WL were pretty good interior wise as well though).

The Grange promises to be good value doesn't it? Can't be certain until the price is released, but a $5k drop sounds fair.

[jaykay]

Well I'm absolutely, totally in love.....:bow:

Was next to black Caprice today, lowered, 20's with lumpy idle and sensational growl on acceleration and to top it off limo tint. I was in the Swift so couldn't quite keep up with it...:bawl:

Man was that car friggin awesome.....:drool: :drool: :drool: :love2: :love: :kneel:


Holden, what a hot bit of gear you've put out there...

I only hope I can see it on the road again....really really soon :yup:

[350boss]

Some real life pics of the Caprice would be nice, don't see too many on the road. A Grange only lasted 1 week at the local dealer on the showroom floor, missed out on a close up look by 2 days. Dooh.

[jaykay]

Some real life pics of the Caprice would be nice, don't see too many on the road. A Grange only lasted 1 week at the local dealer on the showroom floor, missed out on a close up look by 2 days. Dooh.
I would have loved to but was driving the Swift with gear stick in one hand, steering wheel in other and the kids in my ears.... :confused:

It was an awesome looking machine... :bow:

[Slimbo]

I placed an order this weekend for a V8 Caprice. The Caprice is a standout in the range and is better suited to the higher stance of the VE. And the equipment levels were just too much to overlook.

In an age of anti-hooning laws and fixed speed cameras at every second set of lights, a Caprice is a good way to go. I'll post some pics when I take delivery.

Yep!!!!! Pretty much sums it up.

I saw it, i liked it, i bought it.

Mine is Heron White, with Sat Nav and sunroof, don't like the dark colours, absolute pleasure to drive and i have only put 100kms on it in the last week.

I need to get out more.