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csv rulz
01-08-2006, 11:29 AM
I was reading somwhere about the Holden Epica, what is this car? iv never heard of it, whats its specs? anyone got any pics?
Any help would be great thanks
cwhast
01-08-2006, 11:47 AM
It's a midsize, Korean-built, replacement for the Vectra.
It'll be out in November.
As for pictures: Google is your friend. Search 'Chevrolet Epica' and 'Daewoo Tosca'.
Epica is 4,804mm long, 1,807mm wide, 1,449mm tall, weighs between 1,460 and 1,500kg. It has a 2.7 meter wheelbase, 435 liters of luggage capacity, 60:40 rear seats.
2.0L - 104kW / 187Nm (9.0 L/100km, 9.5 combined)
2.5L - 115kW / 240Nm (9.8 L/100km)
*Preliminary data on Chevrolet Epica from GM Europe.
EddieVE06
01-08-2006, 12:34 PM
Give me the ZC Vectra anyday over the Epica. What a load of cheap plastic rubbish. Gone are the days of some classy holden small and mid size cars.
What a real shame....IMO Holden will only have the Commodore to fall back on one day when these plastic fantastic cars start to show their real capabilities which is NONE
cwhast
01-08-2006, 12:39 PM
Maybe GM should send the Euro's over here as Opels or Chevrolets, or Holdens...
EddieVE06
01-08-2006, 12:46 PM
Maybe GM should send the Euro's over here as Opels or Chevrolets, or Holdens...
I've owned an Calibra, Commodore and now a ZC Vectra. The Missus owns a new Astra.
They are a class above the rest including the Commodore. Cant make comment on VE though as that looks like a goer.
My ZC Vectra has features that people think are great on an S type Jag, which has actually happenned. e.g. Vanity mirrir lights, 5 speed, heated side mirrors....whoopie do, have it, had it.
The ride of the Vectra and astra are great also.
I'll pay for then to send over the new vectra which i saw in europe....very nice and classy
Dacious
01-08-2006, 12:48 PM
Give me the ZC Vectra anyday over the Epica. What a load of cheap plastic rubbish. Gone are the days of some classy holden small and mid size cars.
What a real shame....IMO Holden will only have the Commodore to fall back on one day when these plastic fantastic cars start to show their real capabilities which is NONE
Er, they had it. In fact your local Holden dealer will sell you as many as you want, because nobody else is interested. The V6s were nice, but the car is just too pricey, and the fours are nothing special - just a bigger Astra. Even doing a '380' and dropping the price $5,000 didn't work. So it's gone.
Problem was, competent car, but people walked straight past it at the price, which was due to the value of Euro-currency.
EddieVE06
01-08-2006, 12:51 PM
Er, they had it. In fact your local Holden dealer will sell you as many as you want, because nobody else is interested. The V6s were nice, but the car is just too pricey, and the fours are nothing special - just a bigger Astra. Even doing a '380' and dropping the price $5,000 didn't work. So it's gone.
Problem was, competent car, but people walked straight past it at the price, which was due to the value of Euro-currency.
Anyone know whether there are still any new CDXI's around or ex demo's still around. I'd trade my zc 2.2 for the v6 cdxi for the right price.
JNP304
01-08-2006, 01:10 PM
If you like the Vectra the Saab 9-3 is still going. Its essentually a simular car built on the GM Epsion platform and it looks a bit nicer too. Same chassis ect as the ZC. They have been dropped to 39k brand new as well. Or is it no good because its badged Saab not Holden?
bsbozzy
01-08-2006, 01:13 PM
The Epica will be a good competitor for the Camry and thats about it
EddieVE06
01-08-2006, 01:19 PM
If you like the Vectra the Saab 9-3 is still going. Its essentually a simular car built on the GM Epsion platform and it looks a bit nicer too. Same chassis ect as the ZC. They have been dropped to 39k brand new as well. Or is it no good because its badged Saab not Holden?
Like the Vectra shape more. Not a huge fan of the saabs after seeing two pass into the family and the comments were not to great
JNP304
01-08-2006, 01:29 PM
I guess its just opinion. I dont mind the Up spec Vectra with the works they look good but I like the 9-3 Aero too. When I worked there went to all the inside info days and stuff and apparently it and the Vectra share a great deal in common.
Marco
02-08-2006, 08:22 PM
You guys are overrating the ZC Vectra. My parents bought one pretty much on release and they've been extremely disappointed. Extremely poor visibility is the main problem, as well as uncomfortable seats. Personally, I also dislike the vague steering, infuriating minor controls and utterly inept auto transmission.
After three years, the coating on lots of the interior plastic trim is peeling off too, giving a 3 year old car with 38k on the clock a very worn out look and feel.
They bought it on the strength of how good my TS Astra is, but it hasn't lived up to expectations. They are now looking at trading it, most likely either for a VE Calais or a Captiva. Trade in time should be fun, given the car they bought new for $44k is now selling new for $34990...
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