Fuel Consumption figures for varying cars? - list wanted

[seedyrom]

Hi, Just trying to organise a bit of a break down on fuel consumption of a range of cars. Whether hybrid, 4 cyl, 6 or 8 ... im interested in its L/100km.

Does anyone know of a list that might give me a bit of a head start ? (Do they put the L/100km in the back of wheels?)


FYI what this is for is that my wifes employees on the road are complaining that getting paid 62 cents per km isnt enough to cover their fuel costs, and im preparing a bit of a table to show that it is


So if im just given a model of car and the L/100km for basically city driving i'll do all the sums.

Thanks in advance,
seedy




Car
Land Rover - Range Rover

Litres User per 100 kilometres
19.6L/100km

Cost per 100 kilometres (based on $1.60/L)
$31.36/100km

Cents per kilometre
31 cents per km

Fuel allowance less Actual Expense
31 cents per km

[commodoreking]

http://www.greenvehicleguide.gov.au

[Merlin]

They are all in the back of wheels mag - government figures - OR do you want real world figures from owners?

[LS1Grange]

I'd tell them to quit the whinging.

My lil calculation goes like this -

Lets say your car does about 400k's out of a tank. So then your wife gives them 62cents for each KM they do. That works out to $248.

Even if they do 100k's that relate to work travel thats $62 to cover fuel costs for 1/4 of a tank. What the heck are they on to figure that it's not covering their fuel costs???

My 62 cents worth. :wave:

[OLS108]

I get 27 cents a K + car allowence

i figure if i can keep the fuel use under 15.5 then it still works out ok.

[Malcolmsp]

There is more to owning and operating any vehicle than putting fuel in the tank. All this justifies is a minimum not a maximum.

cheers
Mal

[Aussie V8]

Hey the $0.62 per kilometre is not just to cover the cost of petrol.

What about servicing, tyres, depreciation, registration, insurance?

The company i work for only give me $0.56 per kilometre and when it comes to tax return time I declare the number of kilometres and the amount I was reimbursed and it is shown as a loss and tax deduction. The Tax Department allows a higher figure which, I apologise, I do not exactly know what that it for the last financial year.

[VZGEN4]

Tell your wifes employee to go check their fuel tank to make sure it hasn't got a hole in it!

At the figures you've given her average fuel consumption would have to be around 38L/100kms before it didn't cover fuel costs!

[JamesL]

Hey the $0.62 per kilometre is not just to cover the cost of petrol.

What about servicing, tyres, depreciation, registration, insurance?

The company i work for only give me $0.56 per kilometre and when it comes to tax return time I declare the number of kilometres and the amount I was reimbursed and it is shown as a loss and tax deduction. The Tax Department allows a higher figure which, I apologise, I do not exactly know what that it for the last financial year.
I do the same with my work, they give me $0.56 and I claim the rest through my Tax Agent.

Would rather do it all through my work but anyway.....

:)

[RedVYIISS]

Better advice available from an accountant (nick????), however the Tax dept publish an 'allowable' allowance based on rate per km for different engine capacity cars. This allows you to claim each km travelled on business at the nominated rate as a tax free expense (only applies to privately owned vehicles used for business purposes on a casual basis). I haven't looked for awhile but I'd guess, for a 5.7/6.o L V8 it's up over $0.60 / km these days.

[pah]

Hi all,

The BIG worry is depreciation NOT fuel consumption. And those of us who bought new V8's a few years ago should now be acutely aware of this.

If a 3 year old SV8 is now worth around $20k, that's $8k per annum depreciation. That's why I do not intend buying another V8.

Focusing on fuel consumption seems like a wise thing to do because that's what's driving resale values of 2nd hand cars.

WRX's are now high on my list of desirables. But I'll have to check to ensure that they haven't been hit by savage depreciation too. In some circumstances, my Gen III is MORE economical than a WRX. To an extent, reality is not as important as public perceptions, but the fact of the matter is that the WRX will more than likely be more economical where it counts - around town where I do most of my km's. If fuel becomes even more expensive, people might turn against WRX's too.





PAH

[Merlin]

WRX's are now high on my list of desirables. But I'll have to check to ensure that they haven't been hit by savage depreciation too. In some circumstances, my Gen III is MORE economical than a WRX. To an extent, reality is not as important as public perceptions, but the fact of the matter is that the WRX will more than likely be more economical where it counts - around town where I do most of my km's. If fuel becomes even more expensive, people might turn against WRX's too.
PAH

I'd have to disagree here pah - I did a lot of research in choosing between a turbo astra and a WRX for commuting duties. Lots of talking to owners and the average WRX was doing about 12.5l/100kms around town (which is about the same as an XR6 or SV6 in the real world so no point for me to swap a XR6 to a WRX). I ended up with the turbo Astra and it is averaging 9.0L/100kms in 99% city driving. (which based on 500km out of a tank it uses 17.5L less a tank than a WRX which is roughly a saving of $26 a tank at current prices, not to mention the WRX was $1000p.a. more expensive to insure and the astra has leather/nice interior.)

[PFR]

My firm pays 79 cents per km for staff that use their car for business purposes.

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[PepeLePew]

I'd have to disagree here pah - I did a lot of research in choosing between a turbo astra and a WRX for commuting duties. Lots of talking to owners and the average WRX was doing about 12.5l/100kms around town (which is about the same as an XR6 or SV6 in the real world so no point for me to swap a XR6 to a WRX). I ended up with the turbo Astra and it is averaging 9.0L/100kms in 99% city driving. (which based on 500km out of a tank it uses 17.5L less a tank than a WRX which is roughly a saving of $26 a tank at current prices, not to mention the WRX was $1000p.a. more expensive to insure and the astra has leather/nice interior.)

Keerect. Mrs 05 Rexie (2L) wasnt that far off the consumption of her new Territory, scary....you have to work them to get them to move well, hence they can be pretty thirsty when not cruising...

As an indicator in the current market on depreciation we moved her car after much patience for 32.5K. Somewhat over 40K to buy new. Only had 8000kms on it too...whilst some of thats market conditions some is down to the new 2.5L being a tad more driveable (tho butt ugly IMHO).

[spuddamonaro]

my brothers 4 cylinder stock nissan pulsar does roughly 7.1/100 on shell optimax. we have both tested extensively all major 98 octane fuels (ie ultimate, mobile 8000, vortex and optimax) and his car was the best under optimax @ 6.9L/100.

I have not had a chance to put optimax through mine yet, but have gone through the others and found that Ultimate is the best so far at 15.4L/100.

So this shows a comparison (so far) between a stock 4 cylinder and modded 5.7L.

These figures are based on using 5 tanks of each fuel before using the next brand, and we have not been able to compare a V6 yet, but soon we will.

hope this helps

pete

[NickS]

If claiming cents per km the tax dept. allows (for the 2006 fy)

0 - 1600 cc 55c / km
1601 - 2600 cc 66c / km
2601 + cc 67c / km

This sort of claim is limited to 5000 kms pa ... if you want to claim anymore than that you are best off doing a log book and claiming on actual expenses.

The figures above are what the ATO figures it would cost per km to run the car ... all expenses included. There is no way you could spend 62c / km on petrol alone, but it is quite possible to spend a lot more than that per km in total.

[seedyrom]

Not sure if this will work, but here's what I've come up with.

Can someone please let me know if the document opens up when you click the link ?

Thanks,
Seedy

http://www.tomporritt.zoomshare.com/files/Fuel1.pdf

[Vulture]

Not sure if this will work, but here's what I've come up with.

Can someone please let me know if the document opens up when you click the link ?

Thanks,
Seedy

http://www.tomporritt.zoomshare.com/files/Fuel1.pdf

Opens up just fine. That Ferrari is a thirsty bugger...

[seedyrom]

Opens up just fine. That Ferrari is a thirsty bugger...

Mines worse :shock:

Sydney traffic is a killer.


I guess it would b e interesting to see average speeds aswell. Mines lucky to get over 25km/h

[NickS]

Mines worse :shock:

Sydney traffic is a killer.


I guess it would b e interesting to see average speeds aswell. Mines lucky to get over 25km/h
Sounds in line with the Coupe 4 Seedy, Sydney traffic I would average around 25 km/h and 22 l / 100kms !!! :stupid: :stick:

[Crusty]

Sounds in line with the Coupe 4 Seedy, Sydney traffic I would average around 25 km/h and 22 l / 100kms !!! :stupid: :stick:

Damn am I glad I don't live in a city, I get upset if I have to wait for traffic lights a couple of times on the way to work, too spoilt us country folk.

[spuddamonaro]

was the best under optimax @ 6.9L/100.


sorry this should say 7.1L/100, as 6.9L was his best and 7.1L is the average. my bad!!