VE Discussion / Updates SS-V ONLY Part 2

[XLR8 V8]

Please continue all SS/SS-V discussion in this thread

[Desertraptor]

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[jaykay]

There is an embargo on the VE's not not display them to the public until Monday, but there are dealers around that are openly displaying them to the public....:confused:

[EddieVE06]

There is an embargo on the VE's not not display them to the public until Monday, but there are dealers around that are openly displaying them to the public....:confused:

Big Deal...I saw three yesterday that were parked in the lot when I got my car serviced. I think there have been enough displays of the VE. If the embargo was for the public what are they doing driving them around on the streets.

[jaykay]

Big Deal...I saw three yesterday that were parked in the lot when I got my car serviced. I think there have been enough displays of the VE. If the embargo was for the public what are they doing driving them around on the streets.
Anyway it won't matter on Monday. It'll be hell for leather then...

Bring on driving the SSV...... :burnout:

[hallyoz]

I have just been tyo Summit Holden to get some prices. The dealer principal told me that Holden have given dealers the ok to disply as of today, but no test drives until Monday.

Cheers,

Andrew

[VZSS250]

I have just been tyo Summit Holden to get some prices. The dealer principal told me that Holden have given dealers the ok to disply as of today, but no test drives until Monday.

Cheers,

Andrew

Did you manage to get any prices?

[Desertraptor]

No test drives ? I know of three that have been signed up for.

[Wonky]

Hmmm, OK, I give up........ :confused:

Part one of the original SSV thread ends on Aug 4 and this part 2 (???) starts a week later almost. What happened to the rest? I'm sure there were nowhere near 500 posts in what used to be part 2 so don't understand what's happened unless my memory is playing tricks on me........ :weirdo:

Also the link from the end of part 1 leads nowhere. :confused:

[XLR8 V8]

Hmmm, OK, I give up........ :confused:

Part one of the original SSV thread ends on Aug 4 and this part 2 (???) starts a week later almost. What happened to the rest? I'm sure there were nowhere near 500 posts in what used to be part 2 so don't understand what's happened unless my memory is playing tricks on me........ :weirdo:

Also the link from the end of part 1 leads nowhere. :confused:

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=696473&postcount=484

[AndrewW]

My review after test driving a VE SS this morning can be found here http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=698301&postcount=52

Andrew.

[Goggles]

saw and sat in a VE SS-V this arvo....very impressed inside and out. the front seats feel different to my VZ SS, and it appears that there is more headroom.

can't wait to drive one in a few weeks.

have to say that the front spoiler on the SS looks great in real life, and is miles ahead of the front spoiler on the VY/VZ SS.

[hsvprez]

Seen local dealer about SS-V (and upcoming release of HSV). Even though the spec on Holden site says Impulse blue not avail till november the dealer showed me their spec sheet and could get one withing 5 weeks (maybe their stock allocation). Must say they were very helpful since I had been there previously (amazing what a staff turnover does!). Could option it with DVD system which is roof mounted, that also connects to the front screen and plays on both simultaneoulsy. Asked about their satnav and they said could pay now (or later) and it can be fitted easily when released (also plays through current console screen).

Looked great. Although must say the headroom in the back with the rake on the rear screen was the only real concern and I'm only 5'10". Panel fit (Spacing) much better than previous models but still some alignment issues.

[jaykay]

can't wait to drive one in a few weeks.
Don't do it Goggles. You've got the VZ for a long time yet sunshine...... :whip:

[Goggles]

Don't do it Goggles. You've got the VZ for a long time yet sunshine...... :whip:

true, but the temptation to change to a VE will be nullified by loosing a lot of money at the moment..........I won't consider it until I've had the VZ SS for at least 3 years.

of course the ballgame would change if someone wanted to donate a shed load of money to me...........

[Carby650]

i'm off to have a look today. Don't want to get too carried away though as I do not want to buy one till next year. Want to wait for the hipe to drop off a bit and see what sort off additionals we might get after the initial launch. I am sure that the if more to go into these cars in the next 6 months.

[SSASSC1]

Took a Silver SS-V 6 speed for a test drive today.

My thoughts and impressions are as follows..

Good Points........

1. Heaps of grunt. I really mean that. It absolutely hammers. More power than my current edited VY SS. Have also driven a new 6 speed XR6 turbo and the SS-V would easily power away from it

2. The clutch was surprising light and smooth. The gear box is a vast improvement but I must say, still Little vague between gates.

3. Handling was great. steering very direct and responsive. Suspension was firm but not harsh

4. Exhaust note good. Its quiet inside but on the outside has really nice growl. Best stock holden exhaust note I have ever heard.


Note so Good Points........

1. Man........ This car really needs to be lower. Its almost ridiculous how high its sits. The hight spoils the appearance.

2. The test vehicle had the red dash. Initial impression not bad but after a while I really think U would get sick of it. Too RED and too Bright. After 30 mins the glare and colour became painful

3. Seats are no way as comfy and my VY SS. They are flatter and just don't feel as good.

4. The dash design and gauges. I really don't like it. My current VY SS is way better. VE just looks cheap.

5. Wheels are ordinary. Both in the 18" and 19". Just don't do anything for the car.

6. The car just didn't look that sporty. Maybe it needs to be lowered ?


Verdict..........

Well. Its a better car than the VY. But really for me I still prefer my current VY SS. Sure the VE SS goes faster etc.. but the interior was a huge let down. Maybe the the new VE HSV will address some issues

An interesting note......... While in the dealership a VE SS-V was parked next to a VZ HSV. It was good to make direct comparison between the two. I recon the VZ absolutely kills the VE in the Looks department and interior. For the price of a new VE SS-V I am certain you could get a better deal on a runout VZ HSV. I know which one I would take :)

[jaykay]

An interesting note......... While in the dealership a VE SS-V was parked next to a VZ HSV. It was good to make direct comparison between the two. I recon the VZ absolutely kills the VE in the Looks department and interior. For the price of a new VE SS-V I am certain you could get a better deal on a runout VZ HSV. I know which one I would take :)

You'll get a VZ Clubbie cheaper than VE SSV too probably....:diddy:

You didn't happen to get any pics of the silver SSV. I'm hanging to see one in silver...

[SSASSC1]

You'll get a VZ Clubbie cheaper than VE SSV too probably....:diddy:

You didn't happen to get any pics of the silver SSV. I'm hanging to see one in silver...

Sorry - Should of made it clearer....

The car next to the SS-V in the dealership was a VZ HSV Clubsport

IMHO - Red is the best colour for the VE SS-V. Silver just looks too plain :shock:

[VZSS250]

The ride height is difficult to forgive. Especially because the styling itself makes the car appear so tall. The pedestrian safety rules have forced the headlights and bonnet to sit higher, which makes the ride height look even worse.

[jaykay]

Reports from the dealer drive days last week is that even though the car looks high, it definitely doesn't ride high. It handles brilliantly with the ESP. If that is the case and it sounds like it can't be lowered with the ESP we'll have to get used to it.

How awesome would it look 40 to 50mm lower though ?

[holdennutta]

Reports from the dealer drive days last week is that even though the car looks high, it definitely doesn't ride high. It handles brilliantly with the ESP. If that is the case and it sounds like it can't be lowered with the ESP we'll have to get used to it.

How awesome would it look 40 to 50mm lower though ?

You could just turn off ESP and lower it without a problem though?

[BEARWOOD]

Will you be able to edit the VE's the same as the LS2 and will you see big gains from simple mods? I know it might be a little early for anyone to know for sure but just thought maybe there might be someone who may of heard something about it. I'm looking at getting rid of my VZ LS1 to get the 6 Litre motor and wanted a VE but would not purchase one if they can't be editted and gain good results at a reasonable cost.

[NRD80Y]

Test drove an auto SV6 yesterday at Heartland Holden Castle Hill (just after that large storm so thought I was going to have first hand experience with the ESP :p ) and have to say, very impressed. Gear changes very very smooth and quite a puchy engine without having to try too hard. I got to see all the VE models in the flesh/metal last week so already new how good it looked outside (was so blown away at how better they look than the pics and love how beefy and agressive the SS fronts look) and was able to just focus on the interior and the feel of how it drove. As soon as I got back in my VY SS my first thought was 'geez this looks outdated' so really cant wait to get into the new VE.

I got to see all the VE models in the flesh/metal last week so already new how good it looked (Was so blown away at how better they look than the pics and love how beefy and agressive the SS fronts look) and was able to just focus on the feel of how it drove.

If everything goes well this arvo with the sale of the missus' MR2 Spyder (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=55355) , we'll have the SV6 (black, auto, leather) in 1 or 2 weeks.

Once I sell the SS Ute (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=59781) i'll be straight into an SS (red, auto, leather). Was hoping to go for an SS-V but jusssst streatching the budget a bit too much.

Really happy with the pricing for both but just a pity I can only get fleet discount on 1 of my vehicles (they worked out a good deal for me anyway :cool: ) and finally get to use my GM mastercard rebate :banana:

Next will be the SS test drive :banana:

[jaykay]

You like your auto's NRD80Y .....:teach:

[NRD80Y]

You like your auto's NRD80Y .....:teach:

A lot more once I get the 6 speed :thumbsup:

I know autos are seen a bit of :limpy: but they do me just fine and it's better than letting the missus 'crunch' her way through the gears :weirdo:

[jaykay]

A lot more once I get the 6 speed :thumbsup:

I know autos are seen a bit of :limpy: but they do me just fine and it's better than letting the missus 'crunch' her way through the gears :weirdo:
Better still, don't let the Mrs drive the SS. :teach:

I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the SS 6spd auto once you've driven it....

[NRD80Y]

One thing I did forget to mention about the SV6 drive was the the auto gear stick felt a bit awkward when changing gears manually. Maybe it's something that i'd have to get used.

However when left in 'D' it held gears quite well and changed at more appropriate times than the old 4 speed

[phantomsv8s]

Drove an SS on Tuesday.
I have an VY SV8 currently (with 2 3/4) exhaust which has a nice rumble to it.
The VE SS had a much more refined sound, it made me smile every time i gave it a foot full. It is probably the best sounding engine i have heard which comes in a car under 100Gs and not modified.

The fit and finish on the SS was good , I couldnt see any issues at all.

The steering is awesome, so much more direct.

The ESP system is the best thing since sliced bread, its the first time I have driven a car with ESP and I think that I would never go back now I know how good it is.

I have decided to go for the SSV and will be puting down my deposit this afterrnoon.

SSV
Phantom Black Ext
Onyx Interior
20" Mags

The only thing that I am disappointed at is that I will need to wait 6 weeks odd to get it delivered. I would have thought that they would have had more stock to sell seeming that they are trying to sell more privatly now.
Otherwise I am one happy chappy.

[Swordie]

I had test drive of the VE SS this week. My brief impression is it goes very hard, I pushed my foot to the floor and was doing 140km before I knew it. It’s a really fun car and the sound is awesome. If you can’t help yourself behind the wheel its a car you should give a miss as you will not keep your licence for very long.

Does it drive heaps better than a VY/VZ? Probably not, if you have a HSV or high performance VY/VZ you are still driving a great car. The car the VE out dates is still very good.

The VE is definitely an engineering masterpiece especially with class leading safety features. Holden should be proud of what they have produced.

[TheAnxious]

What sort of discount, if any, are you guys getting on the SSV off RRP? Should dealers be offering any extra discounts so early in the product cycle?

[phantomsv8s]

No discounts at all.

[AndrewW]

I got a fleet discount of $2045 off the SS, but mind you I noticed the dealer delivery has gone up to $1895 :mad:

That's as bad as HSV territory, and I can't really see that it's justified.

Especially considering when my VY SS was delivered it needed a wheel alignment (steering wheel off center) and two of the wheels were on the wrong side (directional tires running the wrong way :doh:)

Andrew.

Edited to say I'm not actually eligible for the fleet discount, I just mentioned that I know fleet discount are available, and that I thought I should be able to get a similar dsiscount.

[TheAnxious]

I know this is off topic, but has anyone tried these companies dealing with reverse auctions etc. Are they any chop and worth the expense?

[Angelo_XLR8]

woot it took 6 months but i finally had an encounter with a VE SSV. and lukily i had my trusty camera. did i say camera i mean VIDEO camera. i think this is one of the only forum user video submissions. it was really funny and the car as you will see LOOOKS HORNY in black. you will notice that i chased the car down. and asked him to rev it. sure i looked like a tool to the public but it was soooo worth it.


ENJOY.

VE SSV SIGHTING VIDEO ---BLOODY HILARIOUS -- (http://users.bigpond.net.au/xlr8/video006.avi)

[goofafidamedes]

great work Angelo... pity he didn't give it more schtick went he took off down the road.

[NRD80Y]

I got a fleet discount of $2045 off the SS, but mind you I noticed the dealer delivery has gone up to $1895 :mad:

Holden have changed how their fleet discounting works (suposidly to help with resale values). I dont know the exact details about it all but the discount and delivery charges your quoting sound like what they call 'Pearl' discounting (there seems to be a whole range of different fleet ones depending on different circumstances). For National Fleet discount add approx another $1000 onto the above discount quote and take a $1000 of the dealer delivery.

[AndrewW]

the discount and delivery charges your quoting sound like what they call 'Pearl' discounting

yep, that was the term he used.

as far as I was concerned, I was happy to get a discount at all, but when you consider the 'discount' pretty much just balances out the outrageous dealer delivery charges its all really just a numbers game ...

Andrew.

[Ghosn]

This is my first time at removing a wing and will admit Im a complete noob at photoshop, took me ages to do but I was bored.

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/ghosn/RedSSV01nowing.jpg

[vyssbeast]

very very nice mate
the deleted spoiler makes a huge diff with any holden!!

btw i mentioned this in another thread but
the other day i spotted a silver VE SS but in LHD
not sure what the purpose of this is? are the ME exports LHD or RHD??

[kayman]

very very nice mate
the deleted spoiler makes a huge diff with any holden!!

btw i mentioned this in another thread but
the other day i spotted a silver VE SS but in LHD
not sure what the purpose of this is? are the ME exports LHD or RHD??

ME is LHD....

[vyssbeast]

so just some on the road testing then??

[Wonky]

This is my first time at removing a wing and will admit Im a complete noob at photoshop, took me ages to do but I was bored.

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/ghosn/RedSSV01nowing.jpg

Nice one Ghosn! Looks great lowered and with no rear spoiler! :thumbsup:

[kayman]

so just some on the road testing then??

yeah most probably.

[boofhead]

Went for a test drive on Wednesday in a SS-V Auto (was also looking for a test drive in a Calais-V but none of the dealers I went to had any) and here is some feedback on the car

The Good

Sounds great especially compared to the VY SS I have (standard exhaust) so they have lifted their game here - very nice :goodtime:

Acceleration is improved over the VY - seems to leave the line much more quickly and overtaking does not have any lag like the VY can have at times :burnout:

Suspension is much more forgiving and comfortable, and can handle an average road surface with much less noise and impact on the passengers, but still handle through the twisty bits (very good I thought for 19" tyres)

Finally the mirror adjusting switch has a central posistion (off) - a small thing I know but it bugged the hell out of me in the VX and VY :love2:

No intruding boot hinges - no more crushed luggage! Seems to have more length as well

Brakes are an improvement over the VY/VX and seem to stand up to more abuse - would need more time in the car to confirm this

Wider in the back seat which would be handy as the kiddies get older, and the front seats seem as comfortable but the side bolster are not as high - could be an issue in more "aggressive" cornering

Looks great - could be lowered a tad but still looks the part. The front spoiler looks higher than the VY but with the cars next to each other there was bugger all in it. Test car was the red colour which seems to suit it well and I think is a better choice than the "hero" orange colour. My choice I think would be the blue but could live with the red quite well. Front is very aggressive looking and got quite a few stares from the public driving around.

Wife drove the car and was quite impressed - comment was "I felt that I could get into some real speed trouble without knowing in this car compared to the existing vehicle" so no issues here with a possible purchase :bravo:


The Bad

Handbrake looks very weird when up and does not "feel" too flash. Would have thought a more standard setup would be a better option

Visibility - the rear spoiler cuts out quite a bit of the view out of the back and the "A" pillars at the front are quite thick and block more than in the VY

Boot seems to be shallower than the VY

Fuel economy - I can see some heavy right foot action if we purchase the car and probably less than impressive fuel consumption - but have budgetted for this :evil:


The Ugly

The trade-in valuations of the VY SS - not great at all for a less than 3 year old car :doh:


Overall a good result I think from Holden - my first choice is probably still the Calais-V (but yet to find one for a drive) but would be happy to live with a SS-V (with the DVD option) as another option. If some of the other trade-in valuations are more favourable then I think it would be a goer! :woohoo:

[katman]

G'day gents - long time reader - first time on

had a work collegue roll up in his new ss black - its parked outside my office window - funilly enough next to a VZ ss

Have been carefully studying it for about 1 hr on/off -

My impressions are the have gone backwards with the front end - looking at it front on - it looks out of proportion, quite frankly it falls on the ugly side

The back end is an improvement on the VZ - although it looks much like a rounded 380 VRX -
The wheels are nothing to write home about either - sorry but definetly no wow factor for me -
you would have to be a die hard Holden fan - of which I am not - to love the slyling of the car

I cant comprehend how a car that is heavier than the Vz but with similar poer/torque is tagged as being quicker and more fuel efficient - you would need a ridiculously good reason and have very deep pockets to buy a v8 these days - as a double wammy of fuel prices and anti hooning laws are taking the sting out of owning and properly driving a hipo car these days.

[SV805]

G'day gents - long time reader - first time onhad a work collegue roll up in his new ss black - its parked outside my office window - funilly enough next to a VZ ss

Have been carefully studying it for about 1 hr on/off -

My impressions are the have gone backwards with the front end - looking at it front on - it looks out of proportion, quite frankly it falls on the ugly side

The back end is an improvement on the VZ - although it looks much like a rounded 380 VRX -
The wheels are nothing to write home about either - sorry but definetly no wow factor for me -
you would have to be a die hard Holden fan - of which I am not - to love the slyling of the car

I cant comprehend how a car that is heavier than the Vz but with similar poer/torque is tagged as being quicker and more fuel efficient - you would need a ridiculously good reason and have very deep pockets to buy a v8 these days - as a double wammy of fuel prices and anti hooning laws are taking the sting out of owning and properly driving a hipo car these days.

Katman,
Welcome first post. I hear lots of people who make the comment about how expensive it is to run a V8 and with fuel prices the way they are why would you own one.

Couple of points. Firstly every second school Mum who has a 4wd for some reason doesn't seem to get the same comment. Having owned a VZ SV8 which would consistently average less that 15 litres per 100 kms with a combination of me booting in and the wife driving it to school, I can confirm it uses less fuel than the Toyota Prado we have. It also at the very worst uses 3 litres per 100 kms more than the company ford 6s I have driven for years.
25,000 kms divided by 100 = 250 multiplied by $4.50 ( 3extra litres per 100 at $1.50) = $1,125 extra in fuel per year. So if you allowed $2K per year extra over a 6 and on par with most full sized 4wd's to account for rego and maintenance then I think I will continut to pay the $2K each year and enjoy the V8. This equates to non buying my lunch everyday like a lot of people do or not buying smokes likes lots still do. It is a small additional price in the overall scheme of things when you have just shelled out $50 to $60K for a new car.

[JNP304]

Well said SV8 in reguard to fuel economy. Me and the missus always get houned by her old man saying why did we get the v8. He is driving a VX11 S Pac with the S/C 6. I tell him that the difference between the two is bugger all and on a trip i wouldnt mind betting the v8 is better on fuel.
People think v8 they think everyday at the petrol station. Id rather pay the additional 1.5-2k a year on the v8, its a lifestyle choice.

[AndrewW]

the accessories list is up on the holden website.

can anyone say 'hell yeah' ?

http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modelaccessories?aid=21094&&modelid=4005&bitmask=1

Flip key upgrade - $ 75.90*
Compact and stylish key upgrade available for Omega, Berlina, SV6 and SS models

[SSV8pilot]

Katman,
Welcome first post. I hear lots of people who make the comment about how expensive it is to run a V8 and with fuel prices the way they are why would you own one.

Couple of points. Firstly every second school Mum who has a 4wd for some reason doesn't seem to get the same comment. Having owned a VZ SV8 which would consistently average less that 15 litres per 100 kms with a combination of me booting in and the wife driving it to school, I can confirm it uses less fuel than the Toyota Prado we have. It also at the very worst uses 3 litres per 100 kms more than the company ford 6s I have driven for years.
25,000 kms divided by 100 = 250 multiplied by $4.50 ( 3extra litres per 100 at $1.50) = $1,125 extra in fuel per year. So if you allowed $2K per year extra over a 6 and on par with most full sized 4wd's to account for rego and maintenance then I think I will continut to pay the $2K each year and enjoy the V8. This equates to non buying my lunch everyday like a lot of people do or not buying smokes likes lots still do. It is a small additional price in the overall scheme of things when you have just shelled out $50 to $60K for a new car.


Nicely put

Better to be poorer and have the thrill of a V8 than have a hum drum existence with a measely 4cyl.

I've driven the SV6 and the SSV - just no comparison - both lovely cars but the V8 has the edge

[korrupt]

What is the story with manual SS-V models? I thought they weren't going to be available straight away. The reason I ask is because Doncaster Holden has a manual SS-V sitting in their showroom.

[BIG V]

I checked out he new VE SSV this afternoon, no test drive but hears what i thought.

Good points:

Flared gaurds look good, gear box felts better, seems to have more room inside.

Twin Exhaust tips looks good.


Not so good points:

As members have pointed out, really needs to be lower, geez this thing is 4 wheel drive height. My hand could fit easily under the gaurds, so around 100mm between gaurd and tyre, if it wasnt on 19's it would have looked worse.

The Holden emblem infront is now the size of a soccer ball :eek: .

I hate to say it but the interior was disapointing, very Ford like.

Only the SS V gets the colour coded dash and second display screen, SS has the generic silver dials and only the one display screen with manual rotating knobs for the aircon.

Hand brake looks bizzare.

Only SS V gets sports pedals, SS gets the stock black rubber ones.

There was a VZ SS nearby and the seats were better bolstered, more body hugging and felt better than the SS V.


I asked the dealer rep how much to drive away, SS $50,000, SS V $58,000.

Sorry I'm not sold on them just yet.

I would get an VZ HSV over the SS V in an instant.

V.

[jaykay]

You'll get the old technology for a good price at the moment BIG V ....:nyuk:

[Rick76]

SS-V in Impulse from Goldy Motors launch.
http://www.ls1camaro.net/freehosting/VE%20SS%20V.jpg

[Vulture]

the accessories list is up on the holden website.

"Molded trunk liner". This is Australia FFS! It is a bloody boot!

[CV8Monaro]

Had a drive of the SS-V yesterday. Silver, automatic. Couldn't really give it much stick around the suburbs but was quite impressed with it. Exhaust note wasn't bad, although not as good as the VZ Monaro.

Handled beautifully, steering felt terrific, brakes were excellent. Let the ESP take over at one point and was pleasantly surprised. Interior design totally different, strange handbrake but I guess it is more of a space saver design which you would get used to. Didn't think much of the red dash....

Liked the huge boot space and 'built in' hinges, far more space than I could ever dream of in the VZ Monaro!

The exterior was far more impressive seeing in the flesh than looking at photos...had a bit of a BMW 7 series look to it...

Still prefer the Monaro, but if I had to change it for a four door would have no hesitation in getting an SS-V...

As for earlier discussions on fuel economy, yes it would be cheaper to run than most 4WD's. It depends how hard you drive it....I average 13-14 litres per 100km around town in the manual Monaro... I presume the SS-V would be similar...looking forward to a real test drive around Sandown later in the year....

[AndrewW]

I asked the dealer rep how much to drive away, SS $50,000, SS V $58,000.


Dude, time to haggle.

With little effort at all I talked my salesman down to $49K driveway on the SS, and that's with metallic paint, leather and floor mats.

Andrew.

[Goggles]

the accessories list is up on the holden website.

can anyone say 'hell yeah' ?

http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modelaccessories?aid=21094&&modelid=4005&bitmask=1

Flip key upgrade - $ 75.90*
Compact and stylish key upgrade available for Omega, Berlina, SV6 and SS models

Some of the accessories make me wonder.

For instance, alloy pedals are listed as an option on the SS-V. I thought they were standard??

[boofhead]

According to the specs on the web site alloy pedals are standard on the SS-V

http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/featurelist?modelid=4006&catid=1004

Also it was on the SS-V I test drove and all of the other SS-V units I have seen

[Marco]

Yeah, there seem a few errors in the accessory list on the website. The SS floor mats are listed twice at different prices - one is a VE design, the other a VZ design - and the leather shifter option talks about manual 'transmition'...

[Danv8]

SS-V in Impulse from Goldy Motors launch.
http://www.ls1camaro.net/freehosting/VE%20SS%20V.jpg

Thats almost exactly what I want!
But in a manual though.

[KeenGolfer]

I went and sat in an SS and SS-V today, checked them out. Would have gone for a test drive but I had the young fella with me. I am very impressed with the VE - I like it a lot. I think it looks great (love it in Red Hot!) and the interior is fantastic IMO. Just for giggles I asked about trade in value on the wagon. They're ringing me tomorrow with a price, that should be good for a laugh!

[Goggles]

I went and sat in an SS and SS-V today, checked them out. Would have gone for a test drive but I had the young fella with me. I am very impressed with the VE - I like it a lot. I think it looks great (love it in Red Hot!) and the interior is fantastic IMO. Just for giggles I asked about trade in value on the wagon. They're ringing me tomorrow with a price, that should be good for a laugh!

was that at Gerald Slaven? they had heaps of SV6, SS and SS-V when I was there this arvo.

FWIW - one of the SS-Vs that I sat in had the red dash, and it was ok.

I had my rugrats with me as well, and therefore couldn't go for a test drive.

didn't get a showbag either (:

[KeenGolfer]

was that at Gerald Slaven? they had heaps of SV6, SS and SS-V when I was there this arvo.

FWIW - one of the SS-Vs that I sat in had the red dash, and it was ok.

I had my rugrats with me as well, and therefore couldn't go for a test drive.

didn't get a showbag either (:

Yep, I was there around 2-3pm I think. I thought the red dash in the black SS was ok, although the mrs didn't like it so it would have to be black interior if I got one. They had a red hot in the showroom that had been sold, that looked very nice. I'm quite curious to see what figure they will offer me.

[Marco]

There was a showbag? I didn't get one either. Went up to Belconnen today to have a second look after my first look at Commo Motors yesterday. I would have been there around 1:30-ish.

[lowriding]

Yeah i spent some solid time looking at a redhot Today also :drool:-looks just awesome ,interior is great , the rear spoiler and kit is impressive too,the body is very curvy and very muscular .Couldnt help notice how much it doesnt look anything like a 380 or a BA:lmao:In black the SSV looks serious , much more like an M5 for my money. Infact i really couldn't fault the car ,no wonder they harp on about fuel economy - there really isn't much to dislike .If any large car can resurrect the segment it will be VE . The only thing i could say is the doors feel a bit lightweight ,similar to Falcon (and many other current cars ).

[`redoctober]

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/redoctober2d/image10.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/redoctober2d/image8.jpg
in black @ penfold holden launch

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/redoctober2d/image23.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/redoctober2d/image20.jpg
another ss v in silver @ penfold


quite a stunning car, the exhaust note is cream-worthy.

[TigerMon]

wheels -

The 18s look better imo. There was a SS in ignition at Bay City on saturday ready for delivery. Looked fantastic in the sunshine. The twin-spoke 18s break up the flatness of the car and add some more shade and darkness.

[Goggles]

Yep, I was there around 2-3pm I think. I thought the red dash in the black SS was ok, although the mrs didn't like it so it would have to be black interior if I got one. They had a red hot in the showroom that had been sold, that looked very nice. I'm quite curious to see what figure they will offer me.

if they give you a figure that is ok, would you be serious about trading?

[KeenGolfer]

if they give you a figure that is ok, would you be serious about trading?

Dunno, it would be a very tough decision to get rid of the wagon. I think my decision will be made much easier by a crappy trade in price. Realistically I don't think I will (or should). They're giving me a price as-is with the mods, and another if I put it back to stock.

It just shows how good the VE is to make me consider it. If I didn't have a nice ride at the moment, I'd probably already be signed up for a red hot SS-V.

[carneb]

Dunno, it would be a very tough decision to get rid of the wagon. I think my decision will be made much easier by a crappy trade in price. Realistically I don't think I will (or should). They're giving me a price as-is with the mods, and another if I put it back to stock.

It just shows how good the VE is to make me consider it. If I didn't have a nice ride at the moment, I'd probably already be signed up for a red hot SS-V.

I went down to the local dealer on Friday. I thought the same thing about trade in - they'll give me a crappy offer and make the decision easy for me. I test drove a Calais and they did a valuation on my VY1 SV8. It has plenty of mods but I didn't think that would make a difference. Well, they offered me $23000, and said I might get a bit more with negotiations. :eek: Now I'm very tempted. You might be suprised how much they offer!

[Wonky]

Must admit that having myself been one of the people who said the VEs were waaaay too high I was parked outside the dealer's late this arvo looking at a couple of SS's (18's) and compared them to the VZ's outside and decided they are about the same gaps between arches and tyres i.e. not as bad as I first thought though definitely need to be lowered to look better (same as my VZ is).

General consensus is that lowering won't be possible without impacting ESP but I don't see how lowering it say 30 - 40 mm could have that much affect on ESP???? It already has to cope with a variey of different factors so while I can see that it may change something slightly as far as ESP went I don't see how it could be that drastic...... Any comments from someone who knows more than me?

[JNP304]

I test drove the SS-V 6speed auto on the weekend at John Collins in Mornington, it was redhot colour. Sat well on the road and looked fantastic. I guess with all the hype I was expecting it to be twice as nice to drive and twice as comfortable as the VX. I might have been expecting too much but the texture and shape of the steering wheel felt a little odd and I really dont think the seats were any more comfortable than in the VX (VX with leather).
Great exhaust note and no rattles ect in the car at all. Had a bit more road noise than I would have liked but I guess they are 19" wheels and the radio was off.
Great car but I may hold on till series2. Also pretty poor trade in on the VX. Offered me 13k for it and its a 2002 (silver)with leather in mint cond. They had a SS 6 speed with leather it was 53k on the road in redhot. Tempting but I think ill try hold out a lil longer. Also when testing a new car I expect the salesman to know the car well. when I asked what the button next to the ESP was he didnt know. Turned out it was to change the auto modes.

[KeenGolfer]

they offered me $23000, and said I might get a bit more with negotiations. :eek: Now I'm very tempted. You might be suprised how much they offer!

Offered me $29k if I put it back to stock. There's at least $15k worth of stuff I could sell if I did that. Bit different to the last trade in they offered which was $40k when the LS2 first came out in the Clubby. I'll be sticking with the wagon - unless my lotto numbers come up!

[CV860L]

You really begin to wonder where they get some of these salesman from.
A holden dealer who shall remain anonymous informed me that there will not be any brochures for the VE and I would have to download one from the internet, I then asked if they had the HSVi catalogue so I could see what options are available for the VE to which he replied " we are a Holden dealership and you would have to go to HSV dealer for that".

How on earth can you sell a product if you don't know a thing about it?

Where has this guy been for the past few months?

[Goggles]

Offered me $29k if I put it back to stock. There's at least $15k worth of stuff I could sell if I did that. Bit different to the last trade in they offered which was $40k when the LS2 first came out in the Clubby. I'll be sticking with the wagon - unless my lotto numbers come up!

$29K is still a lot more that I would have got if I had held onto my VYII SS until now.

[brock05]

i don't suppose anyone has seen a black SS-V with red leather interior, pics would be even better as I would like to place my order for an october delivery but would like to make sure the red dash isn't to much first.

[Bazza76]

I've got photo's of how the stripes finish on the boot of the car if anyone wants to see them. Would put them up but can't host pics yet... (bit blurry, only had phone cam...)

[Marco]

i don't suppose anyone has seen a black SS-V with red leather interior, pics would be even better as I would like to place my order for an october delivery but would like to make sure the red dash isn't to much first.

Saw a red SS V with the red dash on Saturday but black leather seats. For mine, the red dash was a bit much - just a bit too bright to be looking at on a regular basis. The colour and rubbery look actually reminded me of that red stuff they put under childrens playgrounds, or the colour they paint bus lanes.

[Bazza76]

Sorry about the quality... only phone camhttp://images.cainer.net//uploads/Image176(edited).JPG
http://images.cainer.net//uploads/Image175(edited).JPG
http://images.cainer.net//uploads/Image179(edited).JPG
http://images.cainer.net//uploads/Image178(edited).JPG
Hope this works....

[vyssbeast]

looks pretty sweet but not sure bout the little bit on the spoiler??

[Fnomna]

Are those stripes matt black??

[Goggles]

looks pretty sweet but not sure bout the little bit on the spoiler??

FWIW - from the angle in that pic, the rear spoiler almost looks like a mini V8Supercar spoiler, and that has writing on it, maybe the stripes on the rear wing are trying to ape that?

[SSFreak]

I imagine those stripes would make polishing and waxing a pain.

[Controltech]

General consensus is that lowering won't be possible without impacting ESP but I don't see how lowering it say 30 - 40 mm could have that much affect on ESP???? It already has to cope with a variey of different factors so while I can see that it may change something slightly as far as ESP went I don't see how it could be that drastic...... Any comments from someone who knows more than me?

I called in at Suttons City Holden in Sydney and they had a SS that had been lowered on display. Was 40mm lower all round. Asked two different salesmen and both thought it had been done by HSVi. Looked good.

[Bazza76]

Are those stripes matt black??

Yeah they are... Looking at the rear wing, i think it would have looked weird without the stripes on it, because if you stood off to the side of the car and back a bit. The rear wing hid the stripes on the boot. Photo's definately don't do it justice though...

[SCiFiRE]

i think it looks wierd because they STOP on the wings, maybe if they followed down to the rear face of the boot lid...

i dunno. i dont like them anyway.

[vyssbeast]

I called in at Suttons City Holden in Sydney and they had a SS that had been lowered on display. Was 40mm lower all round. Asked two different salesmen and both thought it had been done by HSVi. Looked good.

any pix? and wonder how that goes with warrenty n stuff
what rims did it have? apparently a few have thrown on some aftermarket rims

[Controltech]

any pix? and wonder how that goes with warrenty n stuff
what rims did it have? apparently a few have thrown on some aftermarket rims


If fitted by HSVi then warranty would not be an issue. It had standard SS 18" wheels

[V8BRUTE]

I am finding it very hard to believe that lowering the VE's will have any effect on the ESP system at all, what happens when you have five 100kg people and a boot load of luggage, does that mean ESP wont work and your warranty is gone :confused:

I can understand issues with changing brake efficiency with larger rotors affecting ESP as it will have some set value of line pressure to apply in a given situation, it the brakes work better than expected it could get a little upset and lock wheels unintentionally, I have no idea if it has some kind of learning ability like the eingine PCM :deal:

[jaykay]

I called in at Suttons City Holden in Sydney and they had a SS that had been lowered on display. Was 40mm lower all round. Asked two different salesmen and both thought it had been done by HSVi. Looked good.
Can someone in Sydney find out from Suttons what the go is with the lowering of that car. I bet there are lots of future VE purchasers that will put this mod on top of their priority list if it can be done without voiding warranty ... :banana: myself included.....

[Wonky]

I am finding it very hard to believe that lowering the VE's will have any effect on the ESP system at all, what happens when you have five 100kg people and a boot load of luggage, does that mean ESP wont work and your warranty is gone :confused:

Good point! Sort of answers the question I asked the other night. Would love to hear opinions from any 'experts'!

[tlr1000]

I think i will put in some kings springs and see for myself in a few months.

[VX SS]

Pedders have already made lowered springs for these cars I have a set for mine.

[HSVMAN]

Good point! Sort of answers the question I asked the other night. Would love to hear opinions from any 'experts'!

Wont be a problem lowering the cars and hopefully there will be a genuine after market kit available. Only problem I can see is doing it yourself may cause warranty issues

[brock05]

Pedders have already made lowered springs for these cars I have a set for mine.

Gaz,
have you taken delivery yet, if so what are your impressions after clocking up a few kms.

Cheers
Brad

[APCLB]

I'm wondering what sort of prices have ppl been quoted & from which dealers for SSV's?
Test drove one today & cant wipe the smile off my dial,best price dealer came up with was $57100 odd,no options (A6,19's)
Also offered me 22k for a nov 03 build VYSS with 25000km on clock.:shock:

[Carby650]

I'm wondering what sort of prices have ppl been quoted & from which dealers for SSV's?
Test drove one today & cant wipe the smile off my dial,best price dealer came up with was $57100 odd,no options (A6,19's)
Also offered me 22k for a nov 03 build VYSS with 25000km on clock.:shock:

SHIT !! I got a VYSS 2002 and was hoping to get around $25k on my trade on the VE. This confirms my thoughts of holding off till early next year. They will be in a more negotiable mood by then I hope.

[VX SS]

Gaz,
have you taken delivery yet, if so what are your impressions after clocking up a few kms.

Cheers
Brad

Well I have paid for it but I havent got to drive it yet under the pump with work :banghead:

I am overseas next week have to be after fathers day

[Ghosn]

Well I have paid for it but I havent got to drive it yet under the pump with work :banghead:

I am overseas next week have to be after fathers day

It's gonna seem like eternity for u....

[SSV8pilot]

I'm wondering what sort of prices have ppl been quoted & from which dealers for SSV's?
Test drove one today & cant wipe the smile off my dial,best price dealer came up with was $57100 odd,no options (A6,19's)
Also offered me 22k for a nov 03 build VYSS with 25000km on clock.:shock:


Sounds like the dealer ain't that interested - discounts are available you just have to ask them to put there best foot forward. I effectively went out to tender to 4 or 5 dealers. 2 wouldn't quote by email (this was early August) -and that was fine - they got crossed off the list. Worked with the others to get a reasonable deal - not able to disclose out of courtsesy to the dealer..but close to fleet discount.

Re the trade in - just think in 2009 your VESS will be worth $22k in todays terms if your lucky! Just need to live with the reality of that and enjoy the car for what it is - not for what it's worth ...Cést la vie:nopity:

[Marco]

Re the trade in - just think in 2009 your VESS will be worth $22k in todays terms if your lucky! Just need to live with the reality of that and enjoy the car for what it is - not for what it's worth ...Cést la vie:nopity:

Or you could just do what I'm planning to do, which is to get a VE SS and never, ever sell it, ever.

I'm not kidding. If the era of big petrol powered V8s is drawing to an end thanks to us all running out of oil, then I'm going to make sure I get to own one, and there will be no point selling it later because it will be worthless anyway - so, let's say 10 years of daily driving and then it goes into the shed.

[HSVMAN]

Re the trade in - just think in 2009 your VESS will be worth $22k in todays terms if your lucky! Just need to live with the reality of that and enjoy the car for what it is - not for what it's worth ...Cést la vie:nopity:

If you dont qualify for fleet, you wont get it, simple. "Close to it" is because actual fleet discount has reduced somewhat.
The reason for that is so your SS wont be worth so little in 2009 and clowns wont go shopping for big discounts and then cry because their car devalued so fast (no offence).
Reality is you cannot have both as has been the case for several years and it has been getting progressively worse each model change. Hopefully it will recover and the same will not happen again.
Dealer "volume bonuses" have been abolished so that each dealer must retain a better margin in each car rather than stripping profits to rely on Factory rebates. Now that is a good move by Holden :yup:

[SSV8pilot]

Reality is you cannot have both as has been the case for several years and it has been getting progressively worse each model change. :yup:

I think thats the way mercedes and bmw have operated - very tough as I understand it to get new car discounts - and possibly as a result resale values seem to be a bit more respectable.

Accepted that there are many other factors influencing resale such as conditon, mileage, history.

[Dacious]

Eventually V8 owners will win out. Sales of V8 cars in Oz should continue slow. That will reduce numbers from here, but the population of adults will kep growing. So demand for what's left will slowly increase. If fuel prices stabilise, it might be the 80's all over again, when big cars rebounded with a vengeance.

[RICHO]

I think thats the way mercedes and bmw have operated - very tough as I understand it to get new car discounts - and possibly as a result resale values seem to be a bit more respectable.

Accepted that there are many other factors influencing resale such as conditon, mileage, history.

Having a Mercedes Dealer in the family, it's not that you can't get a discount, it's more that most Mercedes buyers don't even think of asking for one.....

I've been at the dealership and watched people walk in, look at a car ask how much with options and write a cheque without any negotiating at all...And that's cars from low 50's all the way to 300+

Deals can be struck though, even Mercedes dealers have budgets and sales targets nad very often their vehicle allocation (high volume sales models with good spec) tends to be made on sales performance, so they will deal.

What they DO do that Holden and Ford don't id protect vehicles at trade in, by paying higher trade in $$$ for cars. Protects residuals and keeps buyers coming back at changeover as they know they'll get a decent price.

I know of some cases where buy back $$$ have been "guaranteed" subject to mileage and servicing requirements.

All very much a longer term view of the customer relationship than Ford / Holden offer.

[SSFreak]

If you dont qualify for fleet, you wont get it, simple. "Close to it" is because actual fleet discount has reduced somewhat.
The reason for that is so your SS wont be worth so little in 2009 and clowns wont go shopping for big discounts and then cry because their car devalued so fast (no offence).
Reality is you cannot have both as has been the case for several years and it has been getting progressively worse each model change. Hopefully it will recover and the same will not happen again.
Dealer "volume bonuses" have been abolished so that each dealer must retain a better margin in each car rather than stripping profits to rely on Factory rebates. Now that is a good move by Holden :yup:

I don't have a problem with paying full retail for a new car as I can afford the repayments. For me, it's the resale value that is the killer. The reason I got a discount on my 2004 VYII is because it was a runout model, not because I negotiated a big discount. The VZ had just been released and the dealer was trying to get rid of VY stock. I think I might wait for the runout sales when the VEII is released.

[SSV8pilot]

Personally - why pay full price if you can negotiate a discount?

Resale values are currenly low and IMO has very little to do with what people paid for them new and what discounts they got when new.

I believe the resale values are impacted by...release of a new model, timing, high volume production (ie less prestige value than the mercs or bmw which are sold in smaller numbers), fuel, car condition and what the market dictates.

We all know that as soon as you drive a new car off the forecourt $$$ go out the window.

Will a Mazda 3 or 6 hold proportional better value than a VZ V8 - yes - but only marginally as car values are generally depressed at the moment and no one can predict if that will ever improve.

So the moral is - if you buy a new car- you know it will depreciate heavily - ie is a bad financial investment. If you go in with your eyes open - have the time to enjoy your new car - then what price do you put on that.

In short - all new car buyers (inlcuding myself) are making a bad financial investment - but potentially an enjoyable motoring one.

[Ghosn]

More pics from Rob, "LS1CorpCruiser", his neighbour rocked up with this last night, he will take some pics again during the day.

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/ghosn/ss1.JPG

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/ghosn/ss2.JPG

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/ghosn/ss3.JPG

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/ghosn/ss4.JPG

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/ghosn/ss5.JPG

http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/ghosn/ss6.JPG

[Holden Man]

Black with silver stripes looks horn (def. get more pics in the daytime), I love those wheels.
The chev badge suits the grille better than the holden one !

[Fnomna]

It has the Omega centre stack with the screen between the air vents. Is it an export SS?
Is that a cigarette lighter at the bottom of the stack? It's not in the Aus cars is it?
http://www.charous.com/uploads/56d171ac3c.jpg

It also has a different front bar to the SS, or are my eyes playing tricks?
http://www.charous.com/uploads/a7cbc45a68.jpg

[Carby650]

I want that grill... heaps better the the pancake holden logo.

[Fnomna]

I just had a look at the Omega accessories and it's just the Omega body kit
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modelaccessories?aid=21044&&modelid=4000&bitmask=1

[`redoctober]

i want that grille.

[APCLB]

Re the trade in - just think in 2009 your VESS will be worth $22k in todays terms if your lucky! Just need to live with the reality of that and enjoy the car for what it is - not for what it's worth ...Cést la vie:nopity:


Oh I hear ya loud & clear on that note & thats what my daily philosophy is towards anyone moaning about me buying the VYSS,just shut up,sit back & enjoy it while we can.You only live once & cant take it with you.
So much so that the Mrs will be buying the VYSS off me so's I can get the VESSV & we will keep these 2 cars for good,oh & keep the VL as the shopping trolley :yup: no more banged up door,car park blue's.

Will also be waiting till the VEII come out too.

[Carby650]

saw my first SSV today which had a different colour dash. the other one i've seen had the std dash. This one today was black but had the ignition (orange) dash. Now whilst that orange is not my cup of tea it looked really good on a black car. My concern would still be if you'd like it after a few months.

[jaykay]

Doesn't the Omega in black with spolier kit and bigger wheels look the goods ?? Don't ever recall a transformed base model Commodore looking so good....:yup:

Bevan - I've seen the coloured dash too and it doesn't do any favours with me, but good on Holden for having a go. Be interesting to see after 12 months of sales how the coloured dash cars have sold....:jester:

[Carby650]

Bevan - I've seen the coloured dash too and it doesn't do any favours with me, but good on Holden for having a go. Be interesting to see after 12 months of sales how the coloured dash cars have sold....:jester:

I'd like to have the lend of one for a week to drive around. It looks ok sitting in the car at the showroom but when you are drving the car all week would you get sick of it. I want to see a Red Hot (yes red John :bravo: ) SSV with red hot interior. I'm sure a dealer in Perth will have one soonish.

[jaykay]

Bevan I'm just waiting for a manual SSV to arrive so I can have a drive. Graham's also getting a Calais V in shortly which I want to have a look at.

I'm keen to look at a red SSV too ( yes red ).

Still haven't seen a VE driving on the road here yet....:vpo:

[lowriding]

I'd like to have the lend of one for a week to drive around. It looks ok sitting in the car at the showroom but when you are drving the car all week would you get sick of it. I want to see a Red Hot (yes red John :bravo: ) SSV with red hot interior. I'm sure a dealer in Perth will have one soonish.


I have seen this combo , i thought it looked awesome actually. The red really brings out the kit and shape very nicely . I also didnt mind the red dash either , but again would probably opt for the conservative option as i too wonder if the novelty would wear thin .Wonder how hard it would be too change between the two later on as it is designed as a module , hmm.:yup:

[hsvprez]

Can someone in Sydney find out from Suttons what the go is with the lowering of that car. I bet there are lots of future VE purchasers that will put this mod on top of their priority list if it can be done without voiding warranty ... :banana: myself included.....


This option is available from HSVi (Walkinshaw performmance mod). Available September generally. Have ordered with my SS-V in ACT. To be fitted at first service.

[jaykay]

This option is available from HSVi (Walkinshaw performmance mod). Available September generally. Have ordered with my SS-V in ACT. To be fitted at first service.
Have you any more details - how much is it lowered, cost and warranty in tact ?

Thanks

John

[BadMac]

Was just playing around on the Holden site specing up equivilent SSV and Calais V and I noticed this note at the top:

* Recommended Retail Price (RRP) does not include Dealer delivery and Government charges, or fitting and labour costs for accessories. Pricing for alloy wheels excludes tyres. Pricing for body kits and spoilers are for primed parts only.

Does this mean that for $1999.00 on the Calais ($1749 on SSV) you trade in your wheels and tyres and they put on only the mags. I suspect the ride will be S**t but at least it won't need to be lowered. How much more will the tyres set you back? Anybody ordered one with the 20'sm how much more were the tyres?

[jaykay]

Was just playing around on the Holden site specing up equivilent SSV and Calais V and I noticed this note at the top:

* Recommended Retail Price (RRP) does not include Dealer delivery and Government charges, or fitting and labour costs for accessories. Pricing for alloy wheels excludes tyres. Pricing for body kits and spoilers are for primed parts only.

Does this mean that for $1999.00 on the Calais ($1749 on SSV) you trade in your wheels and tyres and they put on only the mags. I suspect the ride will be S**t but at least it won't need to be lowered. How much more will the tyres set you back? Anybody ordered one with the 20'sm how much more were the tyres?
My mate at the dealership said those figures include tyres. Sounds like a stuff up on the website..... :yup:

[seldo]

I went in to have a look at a new Senator today, but Zupps didn't have a single car (choice of about a dozen different colour Monaro GTOs though).
So I ended up having a drive of a new VE SS A6.....Well, I guess I've been a bit spoilt but I think I was a bit disappointed. Admittedly it was a verrry early build car and in fact had a sticker on the dash saying it "was a Pilot build car and some specifications may change". I found the instruments very difficult to read although there is an easy thumb-roll on the steering wheel spokes which changes the centre display to a digital speedo in a flash - not bad. The 6 speed auto was a gem - very smooth and quiet - almost seamless power delivery. The ride was excellent - smooth, quiet, flat-handling, and all panel fit was top-notch and paintwork a fair bit better than mine. I guess I was expecting miracles, but at this stage I'll happily battle on with my old clunker. I did ask them to call me when they get a new Senator in though....;) :D

[VX SS]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/2006_0825Pics0018.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/2006_0825Pics0015.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/1dcd3648.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/875d6680.jpg

[korrupt]

Nice pics. Are the number plates hinting at anything.... ?

[jaykay]

I wish people would stop showing off black cars...:whip:

Looks HOT your new ride, look forward to your driving reports. :dance:

[Carby650]

I wish people would stop showing off black cars...:whip:

Looks HOT your new ride, look forward to your driving reports. :dance:

John I've told you ... It's gotta be RED

[brock05]

Gaz, when do your springs get fitted ( presuming they haven't already )

Cheers
Brad

[jaykay]

Gaz, when do your springs get fitted ( presuming they haven't already )

Cheers
Brad
Looks like the factory ride height .....

[VX SS]

Gaz, when do your springs get fitted ( presuming they haven't already )

Cheers
Brad

They will be fitted after the new rims arrive.

[strife]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/2006_0825Pics0018.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/2006_0825Pics0015.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/1dcd3648.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/875d6680.jpg

black

I thought you only brought :spew: colours

[lowriding]

Dont know if yet posted .

Nice drive.com.au video .

some nice driving & SSV sounding real nice .


http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=19583

maybe this one for broadband :)

http://media.drive.com.au/?ie=0&source=drive.com.au%252FEditorial%252FArticleDetai l.aspx%253FArticleID%253D18551&player=windows&rid=21095&rate=600&sy=drive&flash=0&t=3ER90N

[Danv8]

Dont know if yet posted .

Nice drive.com.au video .

some nice driving & SSV sounding real nice .


http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=19583

maybe this one for broadband :)

http://media.drive.com.au/?ie=0&source=drive.com.au%252FEditorial%252FArticleDetai l.aspx%253FArticleID%253D18551&player=windows&rid=21095&rate=600&sy=drive&flash=0&t=3ER90N


Awesome although the A pillar seems to be a problem though.

[mavss]

Damn it. Why didn't they choose the Omega to fang around Lang Lang :(

[BLACK expreSS-V]

Have you any more details - how much is it lowered, cost and warranty in tact ?

Thanks

John

Looks like somebody in Sydney has already got themselves the lowering kit fitted to their SS-V...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VE-SS-V-FE2-springs-new-front-and-rear_W0QQitemZ280021143539QQihZ018QQcategoryZ10270 3QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Fnomna]

I think that's going to go for pretty cheap. I mean, there's not many VEs out there yet for people to start thinking about getting FE2 springs!
Plus, it's listed under Caravan Parts & Accessories !
I reckon they'll go for $35 for the 4!

[Bazza76d]

Hiya,

Just thought I would jump on and let you all know I ordered a VV-S today in phantom (black metallic) in the 6 speed manual with onyx leather interior. I must say I fell in love with the car when I first saw it and after a drive it is bloody unreal. So I guess I gotta sell my VY SS with sureflo exhaust, ah well on to bigger and better things.

Baz

[`redoctober]

holden didn't disappoint with the arrival of the SSV, it's the new muscle car classic.

[Nawdy]

Well, I've had the VE SS A6 for around 2 weeks now, and the more I drive it, the better it becomes. We've clocked up over 400km's so far. The difference between this and my VXII SS is very substantial, particulary in the handling and braking departments.

A few pics (apologies for the car being dirty):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/Nawdy/VE%20SS%20pics/RonnisSS003.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/Nawdy/VE%20SS%20pics/RonnisSS017.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/Nawdy/VE%20SS%20pics/RonnisSS020.jpg

My garage at the moment... the VX (mine), the Super Blackbird and the VE (Ms Nawdy's)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/Nawdy/VE%20SS%20pics/RonnisSS022.jpg

[SV805]

Nawdy, Good to have pictures. Can you give us a bit of a road report on the good and the bad (if any) on the first 500 ks

[Bazza76d]

Good stuff Nawdy looks good mate. Making me more and more impatient! How is the black going? Is it hard to keep clean? What about marks etc and issues?

Cheers

[Nawdy]

Nawdy, Good to have pictures. Can you give us a bit of a road report on the good and the bad (if any) on the first 500 ks

This is a copy of a post I made in another thread:

Well, we have had our VE SS A6 2 days now, and have managed to clock up around 300 kays in that time. There is quite a lot I could write, but I'll just do a few dot points instead.

* Build quality is quite good (but I'm not an engineer)
* Lots of yellow dots in the engine bay
* Doors close with a solid thud
* Lots of little nifty details included, showing how much thought has gone into the car
* Still trying to come to terms with the instrumentation
* Menu to set up/personalise different electrics/electronics/data is loosely based on using a Windows-based computer
* Seats are very comfortable
* Lots of things within the cabin are still the same as previous models eg boot release button is in the glove box still
* Engine note is awesome
* Throttle response is virtually instant, with only small inputs needed to produce great engine response (IMHO)
* In cruise mode, you can't feel the A6 change gear - you only know it's happened by the change in engine note. If you are getting up it a bit, it puts you back in the seat and you feel the gear change accordingly
* Semi-auto mode is fun
* Steering is communicative, but feels a little dead straight ahead
* Handling is far better than any other Commodore I've driven
* Boot setup is a lot more user friendly
* Lots of people look at the car....

There is a lot more I can include, but that's probably a good list to start with. I got into my VXII SS late this arvo, and it felt very dated and old.... but it's staying! 8)

What I will add is:

- The exhaust note seems to have mellowed a little, but it stiil has that unmistake V8 note, particulary grunting up hills ect
- The roadholding as compared to my VX is....... the best way I think think of describing it is that it's at a level the VX could never, ever achieve. It's in another ballpark.
- The gearshifts have softened noticeably, which I think is in response to my wife driving it every day. I haven't had the revs flare during changes, and it can be difficult to pick when gearchanges actually occur.
- Still haven't played much in semi-auto mode... I want to run the car in a little more before I play. Same goes with sports-shift mode.
- Throttle response has softened a little, but good acceleration is just a twitch of the foot away... it seems to have a bucketload of TQ at very low revs, particulary compared to an unedited (or even MAF-tuned) LS1
- The boot space is a lot bigger than the VX... it was really surprising how much we could get into the boot. The parallelogram boot hinges are a lot better idea than the old ones.
- Lots of customising of the electonics/electrics can be done... from the length of times the lights stay on when you lock the car to showing a digital display of your speed on the middle display panel in the dash. It will take a while to work through it all.

Some of the things I don't like:

- the indicator noise is very annoying and quite loud
- the fuel cap hangs off a short plastic lead, which bangs onto the paintwork
- I find the speedo hard to read (hence my preference for the digital speedo setup), and is even worse at night with the red colour.
- my other half hates the size of the Holden badges
- the cabin seems to heat up very quickly in direct sunlight
- the lack of vision outside the car

Some of the things I do like:

- how a lot of things are in the same places as the last models, with familar controls
- the info that is shown on the display panels
- the sunglasses holder
- drinks holders are now a decent size, and seem to be designed to help keep drinks cooler/hotter for longer
- familar seating postion
- the steering wheel controls
- it's an absolute blast to drive
- the amount of attention it gets is astounding, and the all the questions you get asked!


Good stuff Nawdy looks good mate. Making me more and more impatient! How is the black going? Is it hard to keep clean? What about marks etc and issues?

Cheers

Seems to be about the same as the VX.... black always is a high maintainence colour! Personally, I think it is THE colour for this model....

[jaykay]

Well, I've had the VE SS A6 for around 2 weeks now, and the more I drive it, the better it becomes. We've clocked up over 400km's so far. The difference between this and my VXII SS is very substantial, particulary in the handling and braking departments.

My garage at the moment... the VX (mine), the Super Blackbird and the VE (Ms Nawdy's)


I know who wears the pants in your family Nawdy :stick:

How does the wife get the VE and you the VX ??

Nice rides mate... :wave:

[Nawdy]

I know who wears the pants in your family Nawdy :stick:

How does the wife get the VE and you the VX ??

Nice rides mate... :wave:

:lol: We traded in her Astra, and we've got 3 boys who are growing up fast - too fast for the Astra!!!

She doesn't enjoy driving the VX much (too much of a boy's car apparently), and much prefers the A6. Basically, a mix of family circumstance and her love of V8's (she learnt how to drive in a modded SLR5000!).

Who am I to argue? :lol:

Thank-you for the compliment!

[VX_SS_II]

Nice pics. Are the number plates hinting at anything.... ?

Hell yeah! And damn wouldnt that be something...

I only recently bought my SS but... When the VE SS-V drops in price (and runs out of warranty) I could definetely see myself buying one (in orange) and getting a GEN TT kit fitted.. Would have to be a manual.....

Oh jeeeez I'm thinking bout it now.... :doh: :doh: :burnout:

[SV805]

NAWDY :

Some of the things I don't like:

- the indicator noise is very annoying and quite loud
- the fuel cap hangs off a short plastic lead, which bangs onto the paintwork
- I find the speedo hard to read (hence my preference for the digital speedo setup), and is even worse at night with the red colour.
- my other half hates the size of the Holden badges
- the cabin seems to heat up very quickly in direct sunlight
- the lack of vision outside the car

Nawdy, I don't know if this is the case as I havn't had a look yet, but when you say that the fuel cap hangs off a plastic lead which bangs onto the paintwork. Have you checked on the inside of the fuel filler flap to see if there is a spot to place the cap while you fill up. I know it is considerably different but the new Prado we have has a section designed to hold the cap while you feel on the inside of the flap. I would be surprised if it doesn't have this as it wouldn't have taken much to do. Let us know if it does. ???

[davidred]

Good write up Nawdy - it's nice to know the features that made me buy an SSV still hold true after driving around in it for a few weeks..

Now if only Eagers will give me the magic phone call today!

[Nawdy]

NAWDY :

Some of the things I don't like:

- the indicator noise is very annoying and quite loud
- the fuel cap hangs off a short plastic lead, which bangs onto the paintwork
- I find the speedo hard to read (hence my preference for the digital speedo setup), and is even worse at night with the red colour.
- my other half hates the size of the Holden badges
- the cabin seems to heat up very quickly in direct sunlight
- the lack of vision outside the car

Nawdy, I don't know if this is the case as I havn't had a look yet, but when you say that the fuel cap hangs off a plastic lead which bangs onto the paintwork. Have you checked on the inside of the fuel filler flap to see if there is a spot to place the cap while you fill up. I know it is considerably different but the new Prado we have has a section designed to hold the cap while you feel on the inside of the flap. I would be surprised if it doesn't have this as it wouldn't have taken much to do. Let us know if it does. ???

I had bit of a look-see, and there is a small black plastic hook incorporated into the inside of the fuel filler lid - I assume this is to hang the lead onto. Thanks for the idea to have a look! While I was at it, I also noted that you can't open the fuel filler lid with the car locked. It doesn't have a lever next to the driver on the floor to pull to open it any more - you just push on the lid to open it.


Good write up Nawdy - it's nice to know the features that made me buy an SSV still hold true after driving around in it for a few weeks..

Now if only Eagers will give me the magic phone call today!

Thank-you, and I hope the phone call comes quickly! I think you'll be pleased with your new SS-V... I'm still wondering whether I should've got that instead of the SS.

Another nifty little touch we found this morning - the child locks on the rear doors can only be operated by using the ignition key; my wife thinks that is a great idea compared to the system on the outgoing Commodores that could be operated by a child.....

We seem to be finding new stuff every day! :love:

[Dacious]

I had bit of a look-see, and there is a small black plastic hook incorporated into the inside of the fuel filler lid - I assume this is to hang the lead onto. Thanks for the idea to have a look! While I was at it, I also noted that you can't open the fuel filler lid with the car locked. It doesn't have a lever next to the driver on the floor to pull to open it any more - you just push on the lid to open it.

The petrol cap lock is on Astras - still secure, but means you can fill without fumbling for the lever down on the floor as long as the doors are unlocked. Good idea. Only thing is, you to remember to lock it if leaving the car with anything inside it when going to pay.

[NOS540HQ2DOOR]

Just got home from a test drive in a black ssv 6 speed manual.What can i said.Bloody unreal.The best commodore i'll drive.Handling brilliant,brakes great.Great low down torque.Holden sold me.
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

[02vxss]

i drove a ss 6spd today, absolutley brilliant... would luv to get one now if i could afford one, but will wait 3 years till a nice low kay one comes up for 10-20g cheaper... at least i got something to look forward too now :)
very very good buying for the $$$ i reakon...

[jaykay]

Just got home from a test drive in a black ssv 6 speed manual.What can i said.Bloody unreal.The best commodore i'll drive.Handling brilliant,brakes great.Great low down torque.Holden sold me.
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
How did it compare to your VY SS as that is no slouch from the rwkw figure.... :nyuk:

My LS1 is stock and the 270kW in the VE seems to be a big jump from mine.

John

[plonkerchops]

Just got home from a test drive in a black ssv 6 speed manual.What can i said.Bloody unreal.The best commodore i'll drive.Handling brilliant,brakes great.Great low down torque.Holden sold me.
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

so does this mean we'll be seeing you cruising around Margs very shortly in a black VE?

[jaykay]

so does this mean we'll be seeing you cruising around Margs very shortly in a black VE?
You better get in before he beats you to it John... :teach:

[plonkerchops]

You better get in before he beats you to it John... :teach:

I wish.....
funnily enough I was in Busselton tonight and stopped at the local Holden dealer, they've got 2 black SS-V's & a Calais inside plus a red SS outside :drool: mmmm black SS-v with leather...mmmmmm..anyway
Unfortunately what I still owe on the ute and what Id get as a trade...the sums dont add up....I'll bide my time but the next will be VE....:deal: until then the Hyperchunder ute will have to suffice...

[INASNT]

Hey people, first post on the forum.

To be honest I wasent a Holden man in the past, but test drove a manual SS today and put a deposit down on it within 30 mins :love:

Ordered the orange manual with 20's and a bunch of accessories thrown in for $52,000 driveaway. Pick it up in 3 weeks time hopefully.

[jaykay]

Hey people, first post on the forum.

To be honest I wasent a Holden man in the past, but test drove a manual SS today and put a deposit down on it within 30 mins :love:

Ordered the orange manual with 20's and a bunch of accessories thrown in for $52,000 driveaway. Pick it up in 3 weeks time hopefully.
Welcome to the Forum Inasnt.

What did you pick up as accessories on the SS ? Leather ?

When you get your car post some pics up.... :wave:

[INASNT]

Welcome to the Forum Inasnt.

What did you pick up as accessories on the SS ? Leather ?

When you get your car post some pics up.... :wave:

Got the SS uprade carpets, alloy peddles, flip key, chrome saturn door handles and leather wrap gear selector. Was thinking about leather but went the 20's instead.

Treid to get the sunroof and rear parking sensors thrown in also for the same price but couldnt.

[BadMac]

From Street Commodores forum (Credit to BT1-187).

Pics from a cell phone of a SS with the Walkinshaw kit, lowered and new mags. Somebody on Street Commodores mentioned it maybe their mule.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/BT1-187/VECustom4.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/BT1-187/VECustom3.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/BT1-187/VECustom1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/BT1-187/VECustom2.jpg

[jaykay]

Looks the goods lowered. Looks like a WP job, there is a badge above the Commodore badge on the boot. Different tail pipes too.

Can someone do a photochop of that in black ???

Good pics...

[vxchev]

Well, I've had the VE SS A6 for around 2 weeks now, and the more I drive it, the better it becomes. We've clocked up over 400km's so far. The difference between this and my VXII SS is very substantial, particulary in the handling and braking departments.

A few pics (apologies for the car being dirty):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/Nawdy/VE%20SS%20pics/RonnisSS003.jpg




Well had the pleasure of being in Nawdy's VE SS today and all I can say is I won't one. The ride is nice, the exhaust note is perfect and it rumbles when the loud pedal is used. The auto is great and it has so much get up and go. A little squirt on the freeway was testament of this, I won't disclose the speed but it didn't seem like it was going that fast. (well that's what I would told the boys in blue LOL)

Nawdy asked me what I didn't like about it and I couldn't find anything although what I should of said is "not having one".:lol:

The boot is huge and deep, plently of room in the car with bigger cup holders and interior seating is comfortable. The bluetooth mobile set up is great and the stereo system is crisp and clear.

The body kit is sporty and the rear spolier tops it off nicely. The standard 18" wheels look mint and 245's sits nice.

The VE is just right as it is.

Oh and the car gets plenty of attention on the road with plenty of people slow down or speeding up for a look.

All I have to do is stay away from Holden dealers because I think I'll be easily convinced to sign on the dotted line.

:deal:

[Angelo_XLR8]

We have a winner

Definitly a WP Product

http://users.bigpond.net.au/xlr8/walk.jpg

[INASNT]

BadMac

Any idea price and where to source the lowering kit?

vxchev
Yes the bluetooth system through the stck stereo is preety sweet. Great idea

[XLR8 V8]

BadMac

Any idea price and where to source the lowering kit?

vxchev
Yes the bluetooth system through the stck stereo is preety sweet. Great idea


Walkinshaw Performance would be a good bet for the Walkinshaw Performance lowering kit :D
http://www.walkinshawperformance.com.au/wp/default.asp

[vxchev]

I won't one.

:doh: I want one

[BadMac]

BadMac

Any idea price and where to source the lowering kit?

vxchev
Yes the bluetooth system through the stck stereo is preety sweet. Great idea

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/ve.jpg

Woops sorry, XLR8 V8 you bet me (it took ages to find the link, then navigate the site to find the details (the adds cycle so I missed it!).
Anyway as they are a sponsor, I assume its alright to leave the add?

[Wonky]

Must admit the Walkinshaw enhanced VE looks great!! Only thing I don't like is losing the 4 exhaust tips - looks like an SV6 from the back now. Still, that should be easy to fix.

That $3290 price for 20's with rubber seems damned cheap for a decent set of 20" rims and tyres unless they are el-cheapo tyres, but I couldn't see Walkinshaw doing that and possibly screwing their reputation.

[jaykay]

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/ve.jpg
Wonder if they can put some bigger diameter quad pipes on the end of their cat back system ? I'm like Wonky I do like the quad pipe look....

[SV805]

So I am 99% decided to order an ss-v. Couple of things to still consider.
1. What have people been getting for a driveaway price ?
2. What colour to get ?

Last V8 Commodore was Black (To hard to keep clean)
All company cars have been White (so no go)
Existing Prado is Silver (So want something different)
The Blue reminds me of a Ford colour to much.

So I am down to Red Hot or Ignition.........

This is where everyone comes in. I would like to see what percentage of people would prefer Redhot or Ignition. If there is a big difference if may effect resale later on.

SO , Which colour do you prefer REDHOT or IGNITION ?????

[Ghosn]

Even tho the walkinshaw kit is only 25mm lower than stock, it looks just right. The Walkinshaw SS looks quite impressive on the road amongst the traffic.

[brock05]

would be redhot for me, we have the same problem mrs wants black or blue i want black or red so black it has to be but she wants red leather interior and i want black so we haven't placed an order yet ( i don't want the red because of the dash ).

[Orion]

So I am 99% decided to order an ss-v. Couple of things to still consider.
1. What have people been getting for a driveaway price ?
2. What colour to get ?

Last V8 Commodore was Black (To hard to keep clean)
All company cars have been White (so no go)
Existing Prado is Silver (So want something different)
The Blue reminds me of a Ford colour to much.

So I am down to Red Hot or Ignition.........

This is where everyone comes in. I would like to see what percentage of people would prefer Redhot or Ignition. If there is a big difference if may effect resale later on.

SO , Which colour do you prefer REDHOT or IGNITION ?????

I just ordered an SSV in Redhot (manual). Never been a big fan of Orange... sorry, Tiger.... sorry, Ignition.

Drive away price for just car was $52557, added a few extras though:
Full size spare $250
Window Tint $340 (yes I know, cheaper outside... whatever)
Towkit (1600kg) $595

I was considering 20" rims, but the rubber replacement cost of 20s vs 19s is staggering at the moment. $600+ vs $350 to $550. I'll probably just get some ROH 19s when they start making them to suit the VE. Incidently, dealer reckoned 19" to 20" upgrade for SSV would have been just over $1000 ($1060 or something).

To help you figure out what the true cost might be when you walk in here is the break down from my deal:

Rego (SA) $727
Dealer Delivery (ripoff... the factory is just up the road FFS!) $1495
Stamp Duty (4%) $2080

Apparently I 'saved' $3363.64 which from all accounts isn't too bad for a 20 minute haggle. Now I have to wait until my car is built, dammit!

[Janus]

Dealer Delivery (ripoff... the factory is just up the road FFS!) $1495

Yeah, I don't really get how they get away with charging you something like that considering you could drive down to the factory and collect it.

I don't mind if it is a European car or something that actually costs a fair bit to get out here, but when it is a 15 minute drive it is over the top.

Hell, when we got our S class in England we drove down to Germany and collected the car from the factory, thus both avoiding having to pay the fee and they gave us a tour of the factory.

[SV805]

I just ordered an SSV in Redhot (manual). Never been a big fan of Orange... sorry, Tiger.... sorry, Ignition.

Drive away price for just car was $52557, added a few extras though:
Full size spare $250
Window Tint $340 (yes I know, cheaper outside... whatever)
Towkit (1600kg) $595

I was considering 20" rims, but the rubber replacement cost of 20s vs 19s is staggering at the moment. $600+ vs $350 to $550. I'll probably just get some ROH 19s when they start making them to suit the VE. Incidently, dealer reckoned 19" to 20" upgrade for SSV would have been just over $1000 ($1060 or something).

To help you figure out what the true cost might be when you walk in here is the break down from my deal:

Rego (SA) $727
Dealer Delivery (ripoff... the factory is just up the road FFS!) $1495
Stamp Duty (4%) $2080

Apparently I 'saved' $3363.64 which from all accounts isn't too bad for a 20 minute haggle. Now I have to wait until my car is built, dammit!

Orion,

Thanks for that very helpful. Anyone in Qld able to comment on pricing or colours?????

[Junkno's SS]

Hell, when we got our S class in England we drove down to Germany and collected the car from the factory, thus both avoiding having to pay the fee and they gave us a tour of the factory.

now thats what i call european treatment :cool:

[Bazza76]

Orion,

Thanks for that very helpful. Anyone in Qld able to comment on pricing or colours?????

G'day SV805,
Got the SSV for $49,100
Sunroof
Full size spare
Track stripes
Protection pack
Rego $498
CTP $294
Dealer Del. $1,540
Stamp Duty $1,114
GST $5,224

Between the two colours, definately go the Redhot. I reckon the Ignition will date very quickly... Personal opion though:hide:

[NOS540HQ2DOOR]

:deal: Drive away price $62132

Ignition SSV 6 Speed Manual
Onyx Leather
Ignition Instruments
Onyx Dash
19 x 8 5 port alloy wheels
Sat Nav
Overhead Dvd
Full spare
12 months reg
Stamp duty
All Dealer costs
Sat nav and overhead dvd not available until november.
Car will ordered and built then

[Danv8]

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/ve.jpg

Woops sorry, XLR8 V8 you bet me (it took ages to find the link, then navigate the site to find the details (the adds cycle so I missed it!).
Anyway as they are a sponsor, I assume its alright to leave the add?

Stuff me that looks great!

[INASNT]

G'day SV805,
Got the SSV for $49,100
Sunroof
Full size spare
Track stripes
Protection pack
Rego $498
CTP $294
Dealer Del. $1,540
Stamp Duty $1,114
GST $5,224

Between the two colours, definately go the Redhot. I reckon the Ignition will date very quickly... Personal opion though:hide:


How the hell did you get it for that price when the base price of the ss-v is more than that?

[Orion]

How the hell did you get it for that price when the base price of the ss-v is more than that?

I think there might be something wrong with those figures... the GST component is more than 10% of the total price?!

Unless he means the price of the car alone, less GST was $49,100 which would make more sense.

[INASNT]

seems so................................

[vecommo]

Don't know if this has been posted before, but an interesting comparison between SS-V and XR8.
http://media.theage.com.au/?sy=age&rid=21445&source=undefined&t=7Q9093&ie=1&player=wm7&rate=391&flash=1

[XLR8 V8]

Don't know if this has been posted before, but an interesting comparison between SS-V and XR8.
http://media.theage.com.au/?sy=age&rid=21445&source=undefined&t=7Q9093&ie=1&player=wm7&rate=391&flash=1

Winner by default? ... why even put the video on their website saying it's a comparison when they barely even started the comparison before stopping. The XR8 had a failure beyond Ford's control (most drivers try to steer AROUND rocks in the road) - they should have had it fixed and then done the comparison properly.

[lowriding]

I was looking forward to that , oh well just have to get another Falcon and try again i suppose :p

[SV805]

Winner by default? ... why even put the video on their website saying it's a comparison when they barely even started the comparison before stopping. The XR8 had a failure beyond Ford's control (most drivers try to steer AROUND rocks in the road) - they should have had it fixed and then done the comparison properly.

Couldn't agree more, what a waste of bandwith looking at that. I don't think it shows much sense from the Drive team.

[Bazza76]

I think there might be something wrong with those figures... the GST component is more than 10% of the total price?!

Unless he means the price of the car alone, less GST was $49,100 which would make more sense.

Sorry, should have explained that.
Yes price before GST... thats why I put the GST price there.
Figures are quoted straight off the purchase contract.

Got the SSV for $49,100
Sunroof $1500
Full size spare (no charge)
Track stripes $300
Protection pack on paint (no charge)
Rego $498
CTP $294
Dealer Del. $1,540
Stamp Duty $1,114
GST $5,436

Drive Away $59,780
Fixed it up.... Sorry for double post

[Wonky]

Sorry, should have explained that.
Yes price before GST... thats why I put the GST price there.
Figures are quoted straight off the purchase contract.

Got the SSV for $49,100
Sunroof $1500
Full size spare (no charge)
Track stripes $300
Protection pack on paint (no charge)
Rego $498
CTP $294
Dealer Del. $1,540
Stamp Duty $1,114
GST $5,436

Drive Away $59,780
I assume that was for an auto? $49,100 + 10% = $54,010 which is probably a rounded off figure for an A6 SSV.

[RegentV]

So I am 99% decided to order an ss-v. Couple of things to still consider.
1. What have people been getting for a driveaway price ?
2. What colour to get ?

Last V8 Commodore was Black (To hard to keep clean)
All company cars have been White (so no go)
Existing Prado is Silver (So want something different)
The Blue reminds me of a Ford colour to much.

So I am down to Red Hot or Ignition.........

This is where everyone comes in. I would like to see what percentage of people would prefer Redhot or Ignition. If there is a big difference if may effect resale later on.

SO , Which colour do you prefer REDHOT or IGNITION ?????

Picked up my SSV on Thursday for $60498, details:
Manual
Ignition Interior & Exterior
20"
Sunroof
HSV steering wheel & gear stick
Protection pack and tint (no charge)

[FunkyPig]

Don't know if this has been posted before, but an interesting comparison between SS-V and XR8.
http://media.theage.com.au/?sy=age&rid=21445&source=undefined&t=7Q9093&ie=1&player=wm7&rate=391&flash=1
That is a joke! Made even worse by the dramatic music playing to make us think its some sort of battle. And then when the XR8 pulls over and you have a close look its actually a Fairmont Ghia! Absolutely pathetic.
Amazing how people can get away with so much crap that wouldn't be acceptable in magazines. We need a proper 'Wheels' or 'Motor' website to reference, if anything to kill drive.com.au.

[BadMac]

Can anybody describe what other functions the high up centre "gauges" can do?

All the photos show volts and oil. Can they do anything else? If so what are the options. Perhaps somebody with an SS/SV6/SSV could read their owners manual. Photos would be good.

[cashie]

Can anybody describe what other functions the high up centre "gauges" can do?

All the photos show volts and oil. Can they do anything else? If so what are the options. Perhaps somebody with an SS/SV6/SSV could read their owners manual. Photos would be good.

I think that the oil and volt gauges are only on the SS-V, I think that screen only shows the radio settings on the SV6 and SS.

Can anyone confirm this?

[RegentV]

I think that the oil and volt gauges are only on the SS-V, I think that screen only shows the radio settings on the SV6 and SS.

Can anyone confirm this?

Yep, it only shows oil and volts on my SSV.

[davidred]

I picked up my SS-V on Friday afternoon and my god.. if you thought taking one for a test drive was a great experience, wait until you have it for more than 20 minutes :D

After doing around 600km over the weekend I can say that the VE is a f'in amazing car. I took it up through the mountains in the Sunshine Coast and down into the city for Riverfire on Saturday and it just ate the road up. The handling and road holding is like no other car I've been in and that LS2 kicks up an almighty stink when you tell it too.

After handing it around all the mates for a squirt around the block the most common comments was that it's effortless and it's like no other Holden they've been in (and Ford for one of my mates). One of them is actually on his way to a dealership this afternoon :)

The biggest surprise to me was the fuel consumption. I did ~400km of probabyl 60% city and 40% highway driving and only used 3/4 of a tank. The monaro would be gasping for fuel if I tried to do more than 340-360km on a tank.

I have only 3 disappointments with the car;

1) The handbrake.. when it's down its good, but when it's up .. :spew:
2) The glovebox still feels cheap and plasticy, doesn't seem to match in well with the rest of the cabin.
3) Those damn oil & battery indicators. Come on after market gurus - let's get it changed to display something nice :)

And not to end on a negative, the 3 most impressive little surprises I've found after picking it up;

1) The MP3 folder navigation is amazing and it displays song information when playing.
2) The auto lock & unlock feature when taking it from Park to Drive and back again.
3) Cup holders that fit a 600ml of coke.

Now I have to wait 7hrs until work finishes so I can go for another drive!!

[XLR8 V8]

And then when the XR8 pulls over and you have a close look its actually a Fairmont Ghia! Absolutely pathetic.
Amazing how people can get away with so much crap that wouldn't be acceptable in magazines. We need a proper 'Wheels' or 'Motor' website to reference, if anything to kill drive.com.au.


hahaha ... you're right! They musn't have had any footage of the XR8 pulling off the road, so they staged a "somethings not right" facial shot and then used some previous footage of the Fairmont puling over .... twits.


....and that LS2 kicks up an almighty stink when you tell it too.

You mean L98 :yup: ;)

Congrats on the purchase ... they are a fantastic looking car.

[davidred]

You mean L98 :yup: ;)

I'll admit it - I'm confused when it comes to what the damn engine is called and I've tried searching and googling but can't find jack shite on explaining what's what!!

[Ghosn]

1) The MP3 folder navigation is amazing and it displays song information when playing.[/QUOTE]

Great write up but I do have one question. Can u play MP3s on a disc in the stereo or do u need to plug something into the auxilary plug to listen to MP3s?

[BadMac]

I'll admit it - I'm confused when it comes to what the damn engine is called and I've tried searching and googling but can't find jack shite on explaining what's what!!

LS1 was a Gen III engine. It has now slipped into the past for a number of reasons, one of which was Euro3 compliance.

The Holden/GM world or V8's are now all Gen4.

Thats
LS2, HSV engine,
LS7, future HSV engine (hopefully)
L76, Holden Commodore engine, NOT LS2, has smaller cam, DOD hardware and oil galleries, LS7 heads (better flow than current LS2).
L98 = L76 with DOD hardware removed, different Cam.

VE = L98, VZ(2!) = L76, Ute and Wagon carryovers, who knows, probably L98.

There are quite a few threads discussing the LS2 and L76, the L98 is very new so not much around yet. The L76/L98 seems to respond even better to modding than the LS1 did.

[XLR8 V8]

I'll admit it - I'm confused when it comes to what the damn engine is called and I've tried searching and googling but can't find jack shite on explaining what's what!!

VZ SS Series 1 - 5.7L LS1
VZ SS Series 2 - 6.0L L76
VZ HSV - 6.0L LS2

VE SS/SS-V - 6.0L L98
VE HSV - 6.0L LS2

[RegentV]

Great write up but I do have one question. Can u play MP3s on a disc in the stereo or do u need to plug something into the auxilary plug to listen to MP3s?

Both will work, I can play MP3 CD's and I can also plug in my iPod.

[Ghosn]

Both will work, I can play MP3 CD's and I can also plug in my iPod.

Ahh, Thank god.

[davidred]

Thanks to BadMac and XLRV8 for clearing that up .. my head was about to explode!

[jaykay]

Apart from the Walkinshaw kit advertised, has anyone had lowering and exhaust work done on a VE SS / SSV yet ? I'd be interetsed to hear about this please.

John :diddy:


I just ordered an SSV in Redhot (manual). Never been a big fan of Orange... sorry, Tiger.... sorry, Ignition.

Drive away price for just car was $52557, added a few extras though:
Full size spare $250
Window Tint $340 (yes I know, cheaper outside... whatever)
Towkit (1600kg) $595

I was considering 20" rims, but the rubber replacement cost of 20s vs 19s is staggering at the moment. $600+ vs $350 to $550. I'll probably just get some ROH 19s when they start making them to suit the VE. Incidently, dealer reckoned 19" to 20" upgrade for SSV would have been just over $1000 ($1060 or something).

To help you figure out what the true cost might be when you walk in here is the break down from my deal:

Rego (SA) $727
Dealer Delivery (ripoff... the factory is just up the road FFS!) $1495
Stamp Duty (4%) $2080

Apparently I 'saved' $3363.64 which from all accounts isn't too bad for a 20 minute haggle. Now I have to wait until my car is built, dammit!
Sent you a PM Orion, could you please reply or call me on 0407 090 666.

Thanks

John

[TheAnxious]

How come there seems to be quite a rather large variance between some of this drive away prices?

Orion with a 53K driveaway with a few extras compared with others at around the usual 60K mark. Confused.

[brock05]

could the guys that have taken delivery post up some pics. I have been quoted around $55k drive away thats for a M6 with sunroof and thats about all

TheAnxious, is your VL a HDT or HSV?

[jaykay]

How come there seems to be quite a rather large variance between some of this drive away prices?

Orion with a 53K driveaway with a few extras compared with others at around the usual 60K mark. Confused.
I've been getting prices over here in the West and it definitely pays to shop around, about $5k difference for the SSV I'm looking at between dealers. Also had a few quotes from the eastern states and they all vary a fair bit too... :diddy:

[Bazza76]

I assume that was for an auto? $49,100 + 10% = $54,010 which is probably a rounded off figure for an A6 SSV.

Yep just rounded ($49,081.82 Auto)
Drive away price also included a few other little things, but takes me ages to type anything so...

[jaykay]

Yep just rounded ($49,081.82 Auto)
Drive away price also included a few other little things, but takes me ages to type anything so...
Was that $54,010 driveaway price including GST for the A6 and your options?

[Orion]

How come there seems to be quite a rather large variance between some of this drive away prices?

Orion with a 53K driveaway with a few extras compared with others at around the usual 60K mark. Confused.

You have to be ready to walk away. I'm in no hurry (though I AM really looking forward to my new SSV) and I don't need to trade in, in fact I laughed at their trade in offer on my VU SS.

Being armed with a little knowledge on what deals can be had, and refusing to make them an offer until they make you an offer are fairly important but can be hard to achieve.

Most dealers will at some point ask you "what would it take to get you to sign today?". I love that line. There is no reason any offer they make today can't wait until tomorrow or next week to sign, if they aren't prepared to stand by their quote and want to play games with you then you don't have to buy from them. I just tell them that... seems to work unless you're dealing with a retard in which case it's better to walk away anyway.

I feel sorry for one dealer towns though, must be hard. If any Adelaide peeps want the details of the guy I dealt with and are serious about buying, PM me and I'll pass them on, spoke to him today and he's happy to look after people I send him (what a surprise eh?).

[TheAnxious]

TheAnxious, is your VL a HDT or HSV?
The HSV. Both top cars though!

[Orion]

Was that $54,010 driveaway price including GST for the A6 and your options?

I don't think so mate, here is Bazza's post explaining the proper breakdown.


Sorry, should have explained that.
Yes price before GST... thats why I put the GST price there.
Figures are quoted straight off the purchase contract.

Got the SSV for $49,100
Sunroof $1500
Full size spare (no charge)
Track stripes $300
Protection pack on paint (no charge)
Rego $498
CTP $294
Dealer Del. $1,540
Stamp Duty $1,114
GST $5,436

Drive Away $59,780
Fixed it up.... Sorry for double post

[The_Senator]

I got a price on and SSV A6 - Redhot with Sunroof and DVD..

Drive away price was $61,100

How does that compare?? It was my first quote..

[Bazza76]

Was that $54,010 driveaway price including GST for the A6 and your options?

Sorry, I think i've confussed a few here by rounding off & not listing everything. $49,081.82 + GST ($53,990) for auto.:doh: Don't do much postin, will be a bit more detailed in future.
Yes paid full retail:slap:
Trade in helped a bit though. $9,000 for VX I exec 132000 k's on the clock

[SV805]

I just ordered an SSV in Redhot (manual). Never been a big fan of Orange... sorry, Tiger.... sorry, Ignition.

Drive away price for just car was $52557, added a few extras though:
Full size spare $250
Window Tint $340 (yes I know, cheaper outside... whatever)
Towkit (1600kg) $595

I was considering 20" rims, but the rubber replacement cost of 20s vs 19s is staggering at the moment. $600+ vs $350 to $550. I'll probably just get some ROH 19s when they start making them to suit the VE. Incidently, dealer reckoned 19" to 20" upgrade for SSV would have been just over $1000 ($1060 or something).

To help you figure out what the true cost might be when you walk in here is the break down from my deal:

Rego (SA) $727
Dealer Delivery (ripoff... the factory is just up the road FFS!) $1495
Stamp Duty (4%) $2080

Apparently I 'saved' $3363.64 which from all accounts isn't too bad for a 20 minute haggle. Now I have to wait until my car is built, dammit!

Thanks for that Orion,

Sounds like a good deal and from the info given I have summed it up like this.

Redhot Manual SSV $47,070
Full sized spare $ 250
Window Tint $ 340
Towkit $ 595

Rego (SA) $ 727
Dealer Delivery $ 1,495
Stamp Duty (4%) $ 2,080

Total Drive Away $52,557 (Or was it plus Spare,Window Tint & Towbar).

This sounds like a very good price and apart from the stamp duty/reg should be the same in QLD, so given our stamp duty is 2% then over all price should be around $1K less than you have paid so around $51,500. (or $52,685 if extras were on top).

I know a lot of people lespecially me like to know a very sharp price so we can at least get close to this.

Is there any other reason you got the $3,363 discount other than normal haggeling ????

[Mani_CV8Z]

Does anyone have any negative comments on the VE?

I was invited to the VE launch at suttons homebush and drove the SS, SS-V, and the Calais, didn’t like any of them. Here are my negative points:

1. Love the flares, but the wheel arches are way too big for the car
2. Hate the rear lights, looks like a bloody magna or something along the lines
3. Performance wise, IMO I thought it was cr*p. Ive got a stock cv8z and stepping into SS manual, I expected some power difference. It felt soooooo sluggish off the mark. I don’t know if it was just me, but in terms of engine performance I was really disappointed, anyone else feel that way? Just doesn’t feel like a V8 anymore. :driving:

Positive comments

1. EXCELLENT HANDLING
2. The car feels much lighter in the wheel.
3. I think it would look a whole lot better if the car was lowered, DRAMATICALLY!

Well that’s my 2c anyway!:teach:

Mani

[ADSXR8]

Does anyone have any negative comments on the VE?


You would probably have to go to the Ford forums for that.

I read your comments with interest.

Overall, exterior I am not the biggest fan of the VE, and especially the flared guards, just too big. Interior, I like it, and is very functional.

Perforamnce. In manual form, I cannot see how a VE will be quicker than a VZ. The increase weight cannot compensate the extra 10kw's. Auto however, remarkable improvement in the VE, would work wonders with V8 combo. Shame its not available in 6cylinder form, like BF.

[INASNT]

Whats the waiting time before you can pick up ur VE SS's?
Some dealers dont want to budge on price coz they say they have more orders than they can fill. (supply/demand situation)

With the stock VE SS stereo its says 7 speakers. I can spot the 6 but what about the 7th, is it a sub?

[cashie]

With the stock VE SS stereo its says 7 speakers. I can spot the 6 but what about the 7th, is it a sub?

The 7th is on the dash in the centre (centre fill speaker).

[INASNT]

So whos going to be the first ones to do some ecu remapping etc?

Would be interested to see what the ve ss has at the wheels for its 270 engine kw, as I know the f6 typhoon has around 220kw@wheels for its 270 engine kw

[BadMac]

So whos going to be the first ones to do some ecu remapping etc?

Would be interested to see what the ve ss has at the wheels for its 270 engine kw, as I know the f6 typhoon has around 220kw@wheels for its 270 engine kw

SS has been on Tunas dyno and produced 230 RWKW.

See this thread.
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=60256

[VX SS]

So whos going to be the first ones to do some ecu remapping etc?

Would be interested to see what the ve ss has at the wheels for its 270 engine kw, as I know the f6 typhoon has around 220kw@wheels for its 270 engine kw


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/Picture007.jpg

[INASNT]

cheers

Whats a ecu edit estimate to give?

Walki lowered springs installed for the ve ss installed is $580. Clayton is only 20 mins from my house also :yup:

[ADSXR8]

Would be interested to see what the ve ss has at the wheels for its 270 engine kw, as I know the f6 typhoon has around 220kw@wheels for its 270 engine kw

My manual BF Typhoon has 253rwkw. Bog stock except for K & N Filter

[SV805]

My manual BF Typhoon has 253rwkw. Bog stock except for K & N Filter

Hear we go again......

[BadMac]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/Picture007.jpg


I'd get that seen to. Given the 19% drivetrain losses indicated by Tuna (found by people who have dynoed the same engine at rear wheels and on engine dyno). This car is only making 261 FWKW. Not Holdens advertised 270!

In NZ You have to get at least what was advertised. I would assume it applies to car engine power, the same as flour and fizzy drink.

I reliase Dynos can vary, but it would be good to see the actual numbers on a well setup dyno.

[Danv8]

Yeah but then again not all engines comes really identicle in terms of FWKW.
One might pump out 261FWKW and another one might pump out 272FWKW.

Also dyno's have too many variables to be 100% accurate.

[Orion]

Yeah close enough though I've noticed in your quote that I typo'd the total price when I transcribed originally. Just to clarify my total drive away price included the options I listed and all taxes and fees is $53742.00. Sorry for any confusion. The discount I listed is correct however, it's $3363.64 and is pretty decent compared to what other people are getting.

I'm not entitled to any specific discount, just haggled and to be honest it didn't take long to get that price. I guess they just wanted to give me a solid price first time to secure my business and it worked.


Thanks for that Orion,

Sounds like a good deal and from the info given I have summed it up like this.

Redhot Manual SSV $47,070
Full sized spare $ 250
Window Tint $ 340
Towkit $ 595

Rego (SA) $ 727
Dealer Delivery $ 1,495
Stamp Duty (4%) $ 2,080

Total Drive Away $52,557 (Or was it plus Spare,Window Tint & Towbar).

This sounds like a very good price and apart from the stamp duty/reg should be the same in QLD, so given our stamp duty is 2% then over all price should be around $1K less than you have paid so around $51,500. (or $52,685 if extras were on top).

I know a lot of people lespecially me like to know a very sharp price so we can at least get close to this.

Is there any other reason you got the $3,363 discount other than normal haggeling ????

[BadMac]

I hadn't seen this video from the car show, but right at the end they open the SSV up from a standing start. The rest is pretty much stuff weve seen before (it was the 13 August show).

http://thecarshow.carpoint.com.au/portal/tabID__803159/DesktopDefault.aspx

Click on the VE link in episode 13.

[Goggles]

I hadn't seen this video from the car show, but right at the end they open the SSV up from a standing start. The rest is pretty much stuff weve seen before (it was the 13 August show).

http://thecarshow.carpoint.com.au/portal/tabID__803159/DesktopDefault.aspx

Click on the VE link in episode 13.

funny how Mr Ridge can't talk whilst going relatively slowly around corners, but once he gets up to 200+ on the speedbowl, he sounds like he is so relaxed!!

[TheAnxious]

Yeah close enough though I've noticed in your quote that I typo'd the total price when I transcribed originally. Just to clarify my total drive away price included the options I listed and all taxes and fees is $53742.00. Sorry for any confusion. The discount I listed is correct however, it's $3363.64 and is pretty decent compared to what other people are getting.

I'm not entitled to any specific discount, just haggled and to be honest it didn't take long to get that price. I guess they just wanted to give me a solid price first time to secure my business and it worked.
If that's driveaway without further charges then that's a fantastic saving!

And if I could only cash in my full GM Mastercard rebate of about seven or so grand...as if.

[INASNT]

I was told by the dealer I went to that holden are adopting a mazda scheme where cars are made to order so they wont have stock piles of cars laying around.

[vt350phantom]

My manual BF Typhoon has 253rwkw. Bog stock except for K & N Filter

A very happy dyno produced that figure :lol: :lol: :lol: :flip2:

[Wonky]

Walki lowered springs installed for the ve ss installed is $580. Clayton is only 20 mins from my house also :yup:

Sounds good! Not much more than most places want for lowering a VZ etc so they're not ripping us off given the overheads they must have. Originally we heard prices of $1200 or so for lowering mentioned on here (I think that was what the dealers were supposedly going to charge to get it done pre delivery - rip off!!).

[VX SS]

I'd get that seen to. Given the 19% drivetrain losses indicated by Tuna (found by people who have dynoed the same engine at rear wheels and on engine dyno). This car is only making 261 FWKW. Not Holdens advertised 270!

In NZ You have to get at least what was advertised. I would assume it applies to car engine power, the same as flour and fizzy drink.

I reliase Dynos can vary, but it would be good to see the actual numbers on a well setup dyno.


Just shows how little you blokes know about anything

a) We could make this dyno showing car makes 230 rwkw

b) motor had 30 km on it

c) This Dyno is properly calibrated by Dyno Dynamics in Melbourne, HPF has the highest Horsepower cars in Australia no question backed up by the fastest and quickest times in Australia.

d) Tuna said he made 230 rwkw we didnt see a sheet.


You people amaze me I go to the trouble of giving you real info and all you want to do is bag it

[SV805]

Yeah close enough though I've noticed in your quote that I typo'd the total price when I transcribed originally. Just to clarify my total drive away price included the options I listed and all taxes and fees is $53742.00. Sorry for any confusion. The discount I listed is correct however, it's $3363.64 and is pretty decent compared to what other people are getting.

I'm not entitled to any specific discount, just haggled and to be honest it didn't take long to get that price. I guess they just wanted to give me a solid price first time to secure my business and it worked.


Orion, Thanks again this info is great and now gives me a clear target of what to pay. Thanks for clearing that up.

[SSV8pilot]

Anyone with a VE V8 got any data on average actual fuel consumption? If so - based on town/motorway driving?

Just interested to see how it stacks up against the govt figures and how it compares to the VZ's

[davidred]

It's pretty close to the quoted figures - I did a 60/40% split of city/highway driving and did 400km on 3/4 tank. Forgot to check the usage.

This morning I'm getting 15L/100 with a 50/50% split but I'm putting the foot into it alot more now that I've put some Km's on the engine.

[ADSXR8]

It's pretty close to the quoted figures - I did a 60/40% split of city/highway driving and did 400km on 3/4 tank. Forgot to check the usage.

This morning I'm getting 15L/100 with a 50/50% split but I'm putting the foot into it alot more now that I've put some Km's on the engine.

Not bad consumption for a newby. I know with my new cars, consumption generally improved up to around 3-4000km's.


Hear we go again......

Mate, dont let fact get in the way of a good story. INASNT made a claim, I replied with a factual response.

If you dont want to know the answers, dont ask the question. :doh:

[HSVMAN]

Anyone with a VE V8 got any data on average actual fuel consumption? If so - based on town/motorway driving?

Just interested to see how it stacks up against the govt figures and how it compares to the VZ's

So far the longer tests are bringing back approx 1-1.5L/100 better than Holden figures :)

[ADSXR8]

So far the longer tests are bringing back approx 1-1.5L/100 better than Holden figures :)

I think reading the drive.com.au test between the Omega and XT, the Omega return the consumption spot onto the ADR sticker. That certainly doesn't happen often.

[Metal]

Hi there ppls..

I'm new here, so be gentle:stick:

I'm going down to the Holden dealer next week to check out the VE and consider a purchase, cause that thing looks awesome. BUT, I have a question of anyone who has driven the VE SS-V!

The last Holden I drove regularly was a VT SS, and seriously now, not to bag it, but it seemed as though the take off, considering a V8, was always sort of sluggish until it picked up a bit in the revs?? Is that normal?

I know this is a Holden forum, but It seemed as though the xr6 turbo (which I just took for a test drive for the hell of it) had a much better take off speed than the SS which I drove.

ANYWAY!! :teach: so my question is, , does the VE have a better take off than the previous models as far as anyone knows?

PS. sorry for the long post

[Danv8]

Hi there ppls..

I'm new here, so be gentle:stick:

I'm going down to the Holden dealer next week to check out the VE and consider a purchase, cause that thing looks awesome. BUT, I have a question of anyone who has driven the VE SS-V!

The last Holden I drove regularly was a VT SS, and seriously now, not to bag it, but it seemed as though the take off, considering a V8, was always sort of sluggish until it picked up a bit in the revs?? Is that normal?

I know this is a Holden forum, but It seemed as though the xr6 turbo (which I just took for a test drive for the hell of it) had a much better take off speed than the SS which I drove.

ANYWAY!! :teach: so my question is, , does the VE have a better take off than the previous models as far as anyone knows?

PS. sorry for the long post


After driving an VE SS 6 speed auto it kills my edited & zorsted VY2 Calais.
It has bags of low down torque and a decent 1st gear 4.03 ratio.

Although I am going to get a manual VE-SSV next year its gonna kick arse I think. :nos:

[HSVMAN]

ANYWAY!! :teach: so my question is, , does the VE have a better take off than the previous models as far as anyone knows?
PS. sorry for the long post
Welcome! All I can say to you is go drive one and your questions will be answered. If you were put in an SSV and didnt know it was a Holden, you would'nt think you were driving one :)

[Danv8]

Welcome! All I can say to you is go drive one and your questions will be answered. If you were put in an SSV and didnt know it was a Holden, you would'nt think you were driving one :)


Well to me yes and no you know its a commodore it has a familiar commodore look to it. And many things on the inside that is familiar to a previous model commodores like electric window switches and other switch locations like the head lights, cruise control and so forth but that is no bad thing at all.

But the major differences is the drive the VE just makes the older Commodores feel very very old.

Has to be the best aussie car that I have ever driven to date.

Actually drives better than the Lexus GS430 I recently driven this year.

[davidred]

Before I bought the SS-V I had a CV8 (ls1edited & exhaust).. the SS-V tromps it for get up and go and personally feels like it has a tonne more power.

Whack the auto into D (for drag), turn on the sports shift, hammer the happy pedal and the dashboard lights up saying that Stability Control is active and the rear tyres start to rotate at a great rate of knots even though the car doesn't move.

Powerful or not, quicker or not - it's definetly giving me a bigger grin than the Monaro did :)

[mac06]

I've been getting prices over here in the West and it definitely pays to shop around, about $5k difference for the SSV I'm looking at between dealers. Also had a few quotes from the eastern states and they all vary a fair bit too... :diddy:

It's all very well getting quotes or even signing up at whatever price you think is best, but a word of warning, MAKE SURE YOU GET AN AGREED DELIVERY DATE BEFORE SIGNING. I've heard all too often about dealers signing as many people as possible, and then picking the best profit deals for earliest delivery. Some have been put to the back of the queue and literally waited MONTHS for delivery. If you've got the time to wait, great. If not, then you could be seriously p****ed off. It's called taking people out of the market. By the way, after 3 months the deal is null and void, so if the dealer decides the original order was a stupid one then you're back to square one and still without a car. IMO the desire to discount as much as possible just damages resale value and causes long term problems when you come to trade later.

Anyway off my soapbox now:soap:

By the way make sure the agreed delivery date is IN WRITING on the contract

[BadMac]

Just shows how little you blokes know about anything

a) We could make this dyno showing car makes 230 rwkw

b) motor had 30 km on it

c) This Dyno is properly calibrated by Dyno Dynamics in Melbourne, HPF has the highest Horsepower cars in Australia no question backed up by the fastest and quickest times in Australia.

d) Tuna said he made 230 rwkw we didnt see a sheet.


You people amaze me I go to the trouble of giving you real info and all you want to do is bag it

Dude, you need to get your attitude seen too. I did not bag your post. Please take the time to read what I posted. I was commenting on Holden advertising the car as 270KW and given what you had posted from the dyno sheet, it showed a car with around 261KWs (if you beleive what Tuna posted as a likely drivetrain loss). I also commented that dynos produce different results depending on setup, weather, car fuel, technique, engine heat, engine mileage and 10,000 other things.

I was not after a war, I was just passing comment.


Anyone with a VE V8 got any data on average actual fuel consumption? If so - based on town/motorway driving?

Just interested to see how it stacks up against the govt figures and how it compares to the VZ's

While not a V8 figure, heres something from a NZ mag.

In NZ we have 2 general car related mags, NZ Autocar and New Zealand Driver. Both have extensive reviews of the VE this month. NZ Driver spent some time in Aus and did 900km in some of the VE range. Front cover says "VE pure Brilliance", the article starts, "After 900 hard driven kilometers in a day and a half we're asking ourselves if the VE Commodore could be the best large car in the world?" The article ends "These are minor issues. This is an enormously competent range of cars which competes head to head with much more expensive Europeans on virtually every level. A world beater at the price? Definitely"

If I can find an electronic version of the review (and the one from NZ Autocar) i will post it up. They are a good read and have a few tidbits I haven't seen posted anywhere yet. ie Advanced computer technology is part of the VE package - the Calais V we drove was reminding us every 2 hours by way of a chime and picnic table, that it was time to stop for a rest. Fortunatley it can be deprogrammed.

Anyway onto the fuel bit.
The Omega they drove over a 150km route from inner Melborne, including jammed motorway, some twisting hill work, and a section of 110KM/h freeway, returned 9.8l/100Km (indicated). They comment that this augurs well for drivers to be able to easily acheive Holdens claimed 10.9l/100km.

[Nawdy]

WRT pricing of cars - could I suggest it be made very clear wether the car is an SS or an SS-V? There is around a $7000 - $8000 price difference....

I bought a VE SS. The breakdown is:

Metallic paint: $347
Tow bar (1600kg): $450
Rear park assist:: $450

Extras:
Tinted windows
Mats
Slimline plates

Sub - total: $44,280

With delivery fees, GST and on road charges, grand total was $53,500.00

I should be getting a full sized spare thrown in as well - I let the salesman know my thoughts on this, but this still needs to be verified.


Anyone with a VE V8 got any data on average actual fuel consumption? If so - based on town/motorway driving?

Just interested to see how it stacks up against the govt figures and how it compares to the VZ's

100% around tow, in a very hilly part of Melbourne, and with a wife driving who loves sinking the slipper, fuel consumption so far is 20.1 with around 600km's on the clock. I'm sure that figure will improve....

[jaykay]

Anybody heard about any recalls to the VE's apart from the seat belt tensioner issue ?

Picking up my SSV next week so am interested in what current VE owners have been told.

Cheers

John :wave: