Should I trust this dealership

[Dane VN V8]

Okay I have had my car advertise for a two weeks for $21,000, today I got a phone call from a lady from National Car Connections in Homebush right near the Markets. Its the big car yard on corner, alot of nice ss commodores and few Monaros :headbang: . They asked me about my car and we had a chat, they then said they could help me sell my car as people are coming into the car yard demanding these kind of cars. She said they will sell the car for the amount of money I want and if anyone tries to negotiate them down they will call me and ask before approving. There is no comission, all they want is $395 for the car being in the car yard for 14 days, a full show-room detail (engine bay, under carriage, etc) and it being advertised in five different car sites with five colour photos and information.

That's all they want and they reckon its a 95% chance of them selling my car in the 14 days as people are wanting these cars. She was then explaining how most people do finance with these kind of cars as everyone does not have 20grand to spend straight up, which is a good point. I then said what happens if my car is not sold after the 14 days, there is two ways, leave the car in the car yard for $78 per week and advertise for another four weeks after the 14 days until its sold. Or take my car with me and they will advertise my car for another four weeks and if anyone calls about the car I can go and drop it down to them to try and sell.

So what do you think?

Dane.

[raYd3n]

IMHO she does have a point,,,if i was to buy another ss i would rather have a selection to look at in the same place. Plus they will detail it which costs$$$

[IH84DS]

It's just a way of selling cars on finance where they don't have to fork out the cost of your car. For example I will sell your car for you for $300 or so dollars (money made for little overhead i.e. photos advertising etc) then you want 21k, if they are successful for selling your car for that price and they hook the buyer on finance then they get a commission for the sale. So it's good if you don't want to deal with the customers. Dealers tend to sell quicker considering they can arrange finance as well and people know its easier to get finance for a dealer than a private sale. So at the end of the day they're just playing the middle man taking the cream off the top. Just be sure not to sign any papers over to them like rego, READ the CONTRACT carefully too if you are still unsure.

[Tombo]

I have always sold my motor bikes by placing them in a bike shop (the shop takes a commission). The shop is then responsible if the bike goes missing on a test ride or is dropped. Plus it's basically hassle free. As above said, read the contract as the devil is usually in the detail!!

[v-comp]

Hi Dane, PM sent

[tuff304]

sounds reasonable, may as well give it a shot

[seedyrom]

Clever little buggers arent they ?

Have you seen that place Dane ?

FULL of exotic looking cars - a huge, massive yard - chockers with vehicles. The real trick ones take pride of place along Parramatta Road. harlequin paint jobs, house of colors full metalic jobs ... its like fast and the furious.

I used to drive past every day, and would see stunning examples of series 6 RX7's and customised WRX's sitting there for a lot longer than 2 weeks.

They haven't contacted you cause they're nice people who want to help. Everyone in life has an angle to work, and they'll get their pound of flesh.

It may work out really well ... takes a lot of the hassle and BS out of an otherwise ugly process (private selling - yuck) ... so long as the first phone call you get isnt them trying to knock 4 grand off the agreed price. That being said, if they are working the finance angle at the pigeon, you may come out a winner.

Might be worth your effort ... it wont be a $400 detail your car receives ... but atleast thats not $400 of effort you'e exerting by speaking to time wasters and tyre kickers. :burnout:

[GAL350]

I sold my VU this way but with a different dealership. I did my homework and checked out the car yard you are talking about to do the same thing they are offering you, but I chose not to go with that particular dealership because of the way they treated me. I am a female and went in with my partner. The ute was in both of our names yet he completely ignored me the whole time we sat down to nut out the details. It was as if I didnt exist. Stupid idiot that he was didnt think about the fact that I, and a lot of other females, pay all the bills, and ultimately control the finances, and I didnt want any of my possible buyers to be treated the same way I was and potentially lose a sale because of it.

The positive thing is that when people are looking to buy a car but dont have the money up front, most of them will go to a dealer knowing that they will help them arrange finance. For some reason most people do not think of arranging their own finance for private sales.

The down side is that your car can sit there for an unknown amount of time and you will be paying them $78 a week for the priviledge. Thats were they make their money (aswell as the commissions from finance). Most cars do not sell in the first couple of weeks they are in a car yard. I dont know what your car is like or if it will stand out from the rest in the yard (its a pretty big yard), but the key is to put a fair price on it. If you put an unrealistic price on it, it could sit there forever.

All consignment sales are governed by the same standard and legit contract.

Hope I've helped but if you have any more q's then ask away :)

[Orion]

I sold my VU this way but with a different dealership. I did my homework and checked out the car yard you are talking about to do the same thing they are offering you, but I chose not to go with that particular dealership because of the way they treated me.

*snip*

Hope I've helped but if you have any more q's then ask away :)

Did the yard end up selling your VU?
How did the price you got compare to private sale guesstimates?
How long did it sit there for?
Did they detail it and if so was it any good?

I'm looking to privately sell my VU soon but I'm also inherently lazy, so I'm curious about the yard option.

Sorry for so many questions!

[GAL350]

Did the yard end up selling your VU? YUP

How did the price you got compare to private sale guesstimates? Dunno. My ute was a one off with lots of special stuff so can't really compare. I didnt get what I wanted though, but had to take the offer at the time as we desperately needed to sell it

How long did it sit there for? About two months

Did they detail it and if so was it any good? I fully detailed it myself beforehand as I didnt trust them and I'm very particular!

[markone2]

So what do you think?

Dane.

Be afraid...be very very afraid :errr: ......some of the worst nightmare's imaginable in used car land begin on the doorstep of these....err consignees....a fancy word for *Undercapitalized yard *...you've just been warned…from within the trade…..

If you must go ahead…(they reel people in by the tried and proven method *greed* ) then I suggest you ask to look at there Trustee account books / Ledgers before handing over your keys,
All you need do then is wait by the phone for the *dear john* hard luck sell...

[`redoctober]

just as trustworthy as a nigerian king asking for your bank account details via email.

[Wonky]

I'd be worried about what tyre kickers they allow to test drive it and how. At least if you sell your own you can control the situation to some degree. Also, is there anything preventing one of the guys from the yard taking it home to 'try out'?

[jerzey21]

i wouldnt trust any dealership as far as i could throw em no matter how much you think you are getting a good deal they will always be making plenty of money

[220kph]

Make sure you check your insurance policy..or theirs. Some insurance companies won,t cover your car if for sale on consignment, and the caryard my not cover it either.
Plenty of car dealers use cars on the lot as "company cars" eg to and from home, down the shops etc.

[bpm]

Make sure you check your insurance policy..or theirs. Some insurance companies won,t cover your car if for sale on consignment, and the caryard my not cover it either.
Plenty of car dealers use cars on the lot as "company cars" eg to and from home, down the shops etc.

i remember a while ago a friend was selling his bmw on consignment. i pulled up at the servo one night and theres this young bloke filling it up. i said wheres this bm going? he said what do you care, its mine. i said i know its not urs, its a friend of mines. he quickly changed his story and said he was taking it for service. i had serviced it and stamped the books three days earlier. needless to say the car was pulled from the yard the next day by the owner. do not trust these people.

[djsmi1]

Nope, you never should trust em

[GAL350]

FYI with regards to insurance.. the yard mine was in had full comp insurance to cover my ute and i was able to cancel my own policy whilst it was in there. I checked it all out and it was all legit.

Lets not talk about the bottle that got thrown over the fence and in to my ute though :flamin: . Hey, at least they fixed it though.

[Dane VN V8]

About the insurance, they said my car would be fully insured when it stay's in the car yard, so if anything happens it will be covered by insurance. They seem legit though I will go down there next week on Friday with my father and read through the contract with him and see what he thinks.

Dane.

[Wazza]

My main gripe with NCC was when I was looking for a car, they seemed to put on far more of a hard sell than any other dealer i looked at, and this lost them the sale. They basically would not let me test drive the car (was about 3 years ago, and a VR Clubby) without A. arranging finance through them (even though I had cash, they wanted me to finance it...made it look VERY dodgy to me), and B. Signing a contract stating if i was happy with the car I would buy it (pending finance app...). Being young and dumb i agreed to/signed both of these, but told them to go jump when they asked me to sign the waiver of cooling off period BEFORE the test drive....

Also on the test drive the car had very little fuel in it, and they refused to add any more, so it cut the test drive very short...

I got back to the yard and withdrew the finance app and told them i wasnt happy with the car....when realistically the car was probably fine (i just couldnt drive it any more than around the block basically) and it was their pushyness that lost them the sale.

[JezzaB]

trust dealership

thats an oxymoron......

[Robert_VY]

how did the contract check out?

i use to drive pass there everyday to get to school at homebush boys.. can sometimes see some *prestige* cars there sitting on the *car of the week* for quite some months.. dont know whether they put that there on for show or..

[Y2kGoofball]

yeah gotta watch the insurance, I know of a dealership who sold 2nd hand cars and took V8s as trade ins on a regular basis. Problem - their insurance didnt cover any sort of V8 so if its damaged or knocked off it automatically wasnt covered yet they had plenty in the yard!

I wouldnt trust any dealership. They say if someone tries to come down on price theyll contact you. Problem is someone will always come down in price and they wont just contact you, they will absolutely hassle and hammer you until you agree to sell it at a lower price.

We had a similar dealership do this with our Pulsar but we refused to even let them sell it, they were on the phone all hours of the night tring to get the car from us, it was total bull shite and we had nothing to do with them, so Id hate to think what their like when they do have your business.

Then again its your decision, it could be good, it could be bad. The answers your going to get depend on peoples experiences, its your decision as to whether you think it'll all work out. Keep in mind every business needs to run at a profit to survive ... so their not just doing it for your benefit and read the insurance carefully because you just said "fully insured when it stay's in the car yard", does this mean its not covered if I take it for a test drive and never come back, or take it for a test drive and write it off for you?

[Dane VN V8]

Then again its your decision, it could be good, it could be bad. The answers your going to get depend on peoples experiences, its your decision as to whether you think it'll all work out. Keep in mind every business needs to run at a profit to survive ... so their not just doing it for your benefit and read the insurance carefully because you just said "fully insured when it stay's in the car yard", does this mean its not covered if I take it for a test drive and never come back, or take it for a test drive and write it off for you?

Well that is why I am going to read the contract very carefully when I go down there, obviously if the car is not fully insured for test drives there is no way in hell my car is staying there.

[V8-LS1]

Mate take a magnifying glass with you to read the small print, personally I agree with the others don't trust any car yard with property they dont own!:deal: