View Full Version : Does camber kit = Traction ???
BEARWOOD
19-09-2006, 04:39 PM
Will installing a camber kit give me more traction??
About an inch is all that is wearing out on the inside my rear tyres & its a battle to get traction even in second gear at any speed.
VZ ss ute 230rwkw with 3.9s. Lowered.
Don't have time to do a search & read everything and still not come up with a definite answer so if someone could help me out it'd be appreciated. :)
vyssbeast
19-09-2006, 04:42 PM
yes a camber kit will straight the wheel vertically hence increasing the contact with the road and vwalla MORE TRACTION
an inch of your tyre on the road wont give as much traction as 6 or so true?
RED R8
19-09-2006, 04:46 PM
yes a camber kit will straight the wheel vertically hence increasing the contact with the road and vwalla MORE TRACTION
an inch of your tyre on the road wont give as much traction as 6 or so true?
Eggzackery.. get more tread on the road and traction will improve greatly.I am surprised your camber is that bad she must be reeaal low my vy is quite low and without the camber kit I still have good even tyre wear.
x_er_o
19-09-2006, 04:55 PM
I maybe wrong but doesn't anything vx series 2 and onwards have adjustable camber, therefore not needing an adjustable camber kit fitted
vyssbeast
19-09-2006, 05:00 PM
it can be adjusted to a certain extent ... but if the car is lowered excessively it can only adjust it so much and hence an aftermarktet camber kit is required
team illucid
19-09-2006, 05:01 PM
255 wide tyres helped Traction quite a bit I found.
BEARWOOD
19-09-2006, 05:20 PM
I maybe wrong but doesn't anything vx series 2 and onwards have adjustable camber, therefore not needing an adjustable camber kit fitted
Mine is a ute and they don't have any kind of adjustment at all.
Thanks to all for the quick replies.I kind of figured that more tyre on the road would give more traction but wasn't sure as to how much a kit would straighten the tyre up. Is the pedders kit the way to go or is there a better or cheaper kit that will do the same??
mido2k
19-09-2006, 05:31 PM
I have a VX SS with the same issue, inside is of the tyre bout 1/2 - 1 inch is wearing.. Only has FE2.. Has anyone else with FE2 had the same issue? Did you purchase a Camber Correction Kit?
vt350phantom
19-09-2006, 05:36 PM
I have a VX SS with the same issue, inside is of the tyre bout 1/2 - 1 inch is wearing.. Only has FE2.. Has anyone else with FE2 had the same issue? Did you purchase a Camber Correction Kit?
I have this problem too, plan to get a camber kit one of these days
PanVS
19-09-2006, 05:46 PM
Would heavy duty aftermarket rear springs increase traction by reducing squat? Or does squat produce better traction?
kng55
19-09-2006, 06:59 PM
[QUOTE=BEARWOOD;725383]Mine is a ute and they don't have any kind of adjustment at all.
I have a VZ storm ute and got it lowerd very low by peders. It has done 20,000km and a cupel
of skids and my tyres are still very good. So there has to be a bit of adjustment in them.
n1k00
19-09-2006, 07:25 PM
basicaly adjustable camber arms (camber kits) are the way to go
Kingyvl
19-09-2006, 09:42 PM
my vt ss s2 has the same wear on the rears.
Going shopping tomorrow for a camber kit.
commomate
21-09-2006, 12:06 AM
vx2 onwards had a what holden called a "control link" fitted which is threaded and adjusts toe only no camber adjustment (but not fitted on utes)
on some earlier models (eg.before vx2) they used the rear stub axels that was used on the vx2 which has the mount for the "contrl link" (on the botton inside of hub) but no bracket on the subframe to mount the other end
also they straigtened up the rear camber (on vx2 onwards) from about -2.5deg to around -1.5 deg to help tyre wear (only took 10+ years to fix the problem from the first vp irs)
heavy duty springs would also help in a ute or wagon if heavy loads are regularly carried or even in sedan if many family trips are done with full boot and caravan/boat ect
pedders are probally the best for the camber kits and they can also do what the call a rear cradle alignment which can also help (they make the ajustment cradles and sell them to holden as well) basicly they undo your rear sub frame and insert a "cradle" to position rear corecly then tighten (which is not proformed in a normal wheel alignment) as some times on the production line not all goes together perfectly
hope this has been of some help
basicaly adjustable camber arms (camber kits) are the way to go
the camber kits are a off centered bush that fits into the rear semi trailing arms and when turned ajust camber
Would heavy duty aftermarket rear springs increase traction by reducing squat? Or does squat produce better traction?
no when the cat squats the negitive camber increases have had one on the wheel alignment machine at about -2.8 deg put 2 people in the back seat (went to -3.1 deg) foot on brake stalled it up to about 2600rpm so it squatted and went to just over -4.0 deg not much tyre on the road inside edge tyre killer
I maybe wrong but doesn't anything vx series 2 and onwards have adjustable camber, therefore not needing an adjustable camber kit fitted
has ajustment but for toe only but only vx2 sedan/wagon onwards
but not on utes at all don't really know why????
Would heavy duty aftermarket rear springs increase traction by reducing squat? Or does squat produce better traction?
no when the cat squats the negitive camber increases have had one on the wheel alignment machine at about -2.8 deg put 2 people in the back seat (went to -3.1 deg) foot on brake stalled it up to about 2600rpm so it squatted and went to just over -4.0 deg not much tyre on the road inside edge tyre killer
so yes a heavy duty spring may help by keeping the rear wheels straighter
but they reckon when drag racing they make the back end squat to push the tyres onto the road........ so tricky one
unless the same force is still being applied down onto the rear tyres with a heavy duty spring
may look into this one more
SiLENCE
21-09-2006, 09:10 AM
When i bought my VT i had dramas with excessive rear camber as well as it was stupidly low at the rear (kings KHRL-76SSL, 290mm hub to guard, as opposed to 320 at the front). Fitted a pedders camber kit with little effect.. it still had around -3deg negative on the rear.
Raised the rear 30mm with KHRL-46HD and now the camber is a much more respectable -1deg or therabouts and traction/drivebility has improved to no end.
for $400 fitted and aligned from pedders, seems to me that the camber kit is a very wise investment.
now to grab 2 new tyres to replace the scrubbed out rears..
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