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blowski
03-10-2006, 03:36 PM
Hey guys,
Got access to a mates private block road and iv been trying to do standstills in my VY SS Auto. Soon to get Pacies and 3.5 exhuast, problem is i just cant do them atm! HELP! How can i do it?? I Put the power on and TC off but still nothing!!!

I apply a little brakes and then slam the accelerator but still they only spin for about 3 seconds and no smoke nothing! is there any tips guys?

x_er_o
03-10-2006, 03:40 PM
Abuse mode?

Ryzz
03-10-2006, 03:42 PM
Hey guys,
Got access to a mates private block road and iv been trying to do standstills in my VY SS Auto. Soon to get Pacies and 3.5 exhuast, problem is i just cant do them atm! HELP! How can i do it?? I Put the power on and TC off but still nothing!!!

I apply a little brakes and then slam the accelerator but still they only spin for about 3 seconds and no smoke nothing! is there any tips guys?

Have you had an edit done yet?

Crusty
03-10-2006, 03:42 PM
Wow my auto VT Exec used to do them ok so I'd be surprised if your SS can't? Sure you're not applying too much brake?

jona
03-10-2006, 03:46 PM
i know this sounds werid but how much fuel is in your car. My mate has a vt exec and one day he was wankn on about how good his burnouts are. So 10 mins later in a deserted industrial estate we are waiting for these "killer" burnouts, but all we get is a vt exec drivin at 5km/h down the street with its brakes hard on....lol
He took us out the next day after he had fueled up and the thing smoked up pretty well. i dont know if this has any merit but he swears it wont smoke up if it has low fuel??
just thought............

can anybody elaborate why this might be?

Wonky
03-10-2006, 03:49 PM
Before I got on this site and learned about edits etc I had the same problem with my SV8 (stock). Only tried a couple of times but couldn't get it to lay rubber. Turns out they have an anti abuse setting that is turned off when they are edited.

SS220
03-10-2006, 03:53 PM
If in a private car park......

Hold Foot on brake.

Ease the accelerator down until you feel wheels spinning.
Then balance with brake and accelerator until they spin some more.

If they are not spining then you have to much brake.
You only need just enough to stop the car moving forward.

If this fails and you really feel the need to do it start the burnout with water under the rear tires and :burnout:

Works for me every time at the drags.

t

UD_LOSE
03-10-2006, 03:53 PM
get it goin on the grass first :bravo:

Covert
03-10-2006, 03:58 PM
Hey guys,
Got access to a mates private block road and iv been trying to do standstills in my VY SS Auto. Soon to get Pacies and 3.5 exhuast, problem is i just cant do them atm! HELP! How can i do it?? I Put the power on and TC off but still nothing!!!

I apply a little brakes and then slam the accelerator but still they only spin for about 3 seconds and no smoke nothing! is there any tips guys?

Put it in neutral, left foot on the brake, and dial up about 6000rpm with your right foot then drop the gear selector into D for Drag. That should produce a result...... maybe not the one you hoped for though.

VX2VESS
03-10-2006, 04:02 PM
anti abuse mode = anti fine mode or break less stuff mode.

17 eh just make sure you can afford to replace the tyres. :yup:

a tune should fix it, i have to try hard not to let the rears break out. stomp on it with no brakes applied and its spins its arse off, same again for into 2nd and a little third in the dry. so i apply power gradually for take off, also back off for the 2nd change at that exact moment and reapply power to prevent it.

can't recall what it was like before a tune.


If in a private car park......

Hold Foot on brake.

Ease the accelerator down until you feel wheels spinning.
Then balance with brake and accelerator until they spin some more.

If they are not spining then you have to much brake.
You only need just enough to stop the car moving forward.

If this fails and you really feel the need to do it start the burnout with water under the rear tires and :burnout:

Works for me every time at the drags.

t

private car parks actually don't save you if caught, ask my son.

UD_LOSE
03-10-2006, 04:04 PM
or a line locker :yup:

Goanna
03-10-2006, 04:34 PM
Never had an issue with the berlina, brake, then just throttle it up. The acclaim won't at all!, no matter how hard i try. ......maybe its the 15's. but it will pull second if im feeling really keen to torch some rubber!!!

BigFella
03-10-2006, 04:39 PM
yeah my VX 2 calais used to light em up with ease....just a lil tap on the break and off it went, it didnt want to stop :D

god i miss rwd cars....


boo honda

Curtis-R
03-10-2006, 04:43 PM
I've got an idea.. get ur mate to film it and post it in the multimedia section :yup:

Devil CV8
03-10-2006, 05:01 PM
The few times I've done a burnout in my stock VY SS it has been easy as. Either floor the accelerator and spin em up as I accelerate, or for a smoky burnout just light foot on the break and accelrate, then as has been said, balance the brakes and accelerator...

sven
03-10-2006, 05:10 PM
plant the brake and stomp the gas......worked in my old vl :)

bpm
03-10-2006, 05:24 PM
get a m6...........

Elite SS
03-10-2006, 05:29 PM
Put it in neutral, left foot on the brake, and dial up about 6000rpm with your right foot then drop the gear selector into D for Drag. That should produce a result...... maybe not the one you hoped for though.


You wouldn't happen own a Auto GEARBOX workshop....:lol:

vyssbeast
03-10-2006, 07:36 PM
and the anti abuse mode stops that from doing anything (not sure about after edit ... dont plan on trying )

gaz vyss
03-10-2006, 07:56 PM
Burnouts ???? i just tap it and away she goes. Lost close on 3mm off the rears at the strip on saturday night doing this shit. @$200 a rim... i won't be doing it too often. also spent the next morning peeling all that valuable rubber off my inner guards and exhaust pipe for about an hour !

seriously mate, even before the blower went on all i had to do was hold the brake pedal with a little pressure and just squeeze the right foot down. worked wonders on Mcdonalds concrete.
Re the full tank of petrol to do a burnout.. i think that is a load of cr*p
Keep practising. you'll get there.:yup:

Speedy Gonzales
03-10-2006, 08:30 PM
Torque Management at work

MonoJoker
03-10-2006, 08:58 PM
If you're finding it difficult to break traction be clever with your use of the brakes. If you can't get it to spin up by applying brake and pushing hard on the throttle then try releasing and reapplying the brakes in quick succession as you accelerate hard. This makes the car's weight rock from back to front. As the weight transfers to the front of the car the rear is more likely to break traction.

Hey you learn a few things before you get an LS1 ;) Worked in my Cressida and the 2 VLs I had which were all autos. After an edit in the barge though it doesn't require any tricks to linelock myself into a smokey cloud...

Cheers
LT.

Dug
04-10-2006, 09:10 AM
This may sound a bit far fetched, but try removing the rear brake globes (or disconnecting them atleast).

Rumor has it that abuse mode is connected through the brake light circuit, and by removing the globes, you will have a permanantly open circuit.

I can't confirm that this works, as my car doesn't have this problem, however i've been advised of this by a couple of diferent sources ... each of which seem to have some very strange tyre durability problems.

ace078
04-10-2006, 11:31 AM
Some cars from vy on have a brake switch that wont let you bag it up, found it in a few cop pack cars before delivery, would break loose with no brake at all and as soon as you touch the brake it shuts of 4 spark plugs!!!!:flip2: swith can be removed :bravo:

GTS_215
04-10-2006, 01:39 PM
a mate of mine has a VY SS auto and for a while it wouldnt do burnout, the speedo just sat on 20kmh and the car was creeping forward slowly with full brakes applied. he later tried with less brake and it absolutely fried em :D so im guessing too much brake is the problem

Vulture
04-10-2006, 01:46 PM
It's quite simple. You need to have it edited to remove abuse mode as some others have mentioned. When I had my VY in Cairns in the heat prior to edit it was an absolute dog. If it's hot when you're trying (timing retard) it plus with torque management on it can be very had to bag it up.

jerrel
04-10-2006, 06:41 PM
why would u want to... you have just bought an awesome car, keep it that way, dont abuse it.
you wont think doing a burnout is so cool when something in ur engine snaps and your car therefore becomes undrivable.

Desertraptor
04-10-2006, 07:38 PM
I hit the pedal and a split second later I apply brakes gently. The wheels are spinning before the brakes take hold then easy off the brake to the point where you are creeping along.

Holden Nut
04-10-2006, 08:13 PM
why would u want to... you have just bought an awesome car, keep it that way, dont abuse it.
you wont think doing a burnout is so cool when something in ur engine snaps and your car therefore becomes undrivable.I can't believe how long it took for someone to post this - and an 18 year old at that!

Crusty
04-10-2006, 08:14 PM
why would u want to... you have just bought an awesome car, keep it that way, dont abuse it.
you wont think doing a burnout is so cool when something in ur engine snaps and your car therefore becomes undrivable.

If the engine goes bang from doing a small burnout I'd be asking questions, I'd hope most engines could handle a bit of a smoke making session.

SICK SS
04-10-2006, 08:36 PM
Abuse mode?


Before I got on this site and learned about edits etc I had the same problem with my SV8 (stock). Only tried a couple of times but couldn't get it to lay rubber. Turns out they have an anti abuse setting that is turned off when they are edited.


anti abuse mode = anti fine mode or break less stuff mode.

17 eh just make sure you can afford to replace the tyres. :yup:

a tune should fix it, i have to try hard not to let the rears break out. stomp on it with no brakes applied and its spins its arse off, same again for into 2nd and a little third in the dry. so i apply power gradually for take off, also back off for the 2nd change at that exact moment and reapply power to prevent it.

can't recall what it was like before a tune.



private car parks actually don't save you if caught, ask my son.


and the anti abuse mode stops that from doing anything (not sure about after edit ... dont plan on trying )


Torque Management at work


It's quite simple. You need to have it edited to remove abuse mode as some others have mentioned. When I had my VY in Cairns in the heat prior to edit it was an absolute dog. If it's hot when you're trying (timing retard) it plus with torque management on it can be very had to bag it up.


what they said:bravo:

jerrel
04-10-2006, 08:50 PM
If the engine goes bang from doing a small burnout I'd be asking questions, I'd hope most engines could handle a bit of a smoke making session.

i can assure you i am NOT speaking from experience, if thats what you are implying. my engine does ok.

Crusty
04-10-2006, 08:58 PM
i can assure you i am NOT speaking from experience, if thats what you are implying. my engine does ok.

Nope not implying anything, I was just merely pointing out that I'd hope they can handle a fair bit of abuse :burnout: :driving: :yup:

Abuse mode sux, even doing dyno runs it can kick in, one minute you do a great run, next it turns to shit cause the computer decides you're abusing it too much, will be good to get rid of it :D

Angelo_XLR8
04-10-2006, 09:23 PM
turn your AC and fan off. Trac off. Brake on. plant it and feather the brake till you see smoke.

Dane VN V8
04-10-2006, 09:23 PM
And don't hit a gutter or you wont have a car for a couple of weeks :(

Dane.

vh-holden
04-10-2006, 10:46 PM
abuse mode is the problem

logzy
11-10-2006, 01:24 PM
So 10 mins later in a deserted industrial estate we are waiting for these "killer" burnouts, but all we get is a vt exec drivin at 5km/h down the street with its brakes hard on....lol


ROFL....Thats funny sh*t.!!!
Wish i was there.

chevypower
11-10-2006, 04:13 PM
get it goin on the grass first :bravo:

very bad for the driveline going from spinning on dirt or grass then on to dry asphalt while still spinning, but if ur out there trying ur hardest to do burnouts, you cant be too worried about the damge you will do.

get a single spinner, my VT Gen 3 did massive burnouts just by pushing the accelerator, no brake at all - kinda got annoying, especially in the wet

vtequipe
11-10-2006, 06:10 PM
had the same prob in the vt, just wouldn't spark, someone suggested try using one foot, stick right foot on the brake, twist or foot so ur toes on the accelerator give it heaps, slip off the brakes real quick then back on again hard, off u go 4 as long as u want :yup: :bounce: