VE-SSV ... to sunroof or not to sunroof...

[VT2HSVR8]

Hey guys, I will soon be purchasing a new VE-SSV. The question I have is regarding the pros and cons of the sunroof.

I have never owned a car with a sunroof before, and the only reason I can see for having one is that my wife thinks they look 'cool' heh.

Against that, I can get a new SSV in 3-4 weeks without, yet it will take till mid Jan 07 at the earliest as I have been informed if I want a sunroof.

Anyone have an opinion either way? Thanks. :)

[james2]

For me a sunroof is a must have option, nothing better when the weather allowes you to open it while cruising.:woohoo:

[IgottaLS1]

My previous car (Vectra) had a sunroof, my VX SS does not.

Did I order it on my Vectra just because I thought it was 'cool'? YES!
Did I use it heaps? YES!
Do I miss it alot on my SS? YES! YES! YES!

They are fantastic. I opened it right up on nice sunny days or partly open depending on how much breeze I wanted. I would tilt it up a bit even on rainy days to get fresh air circulating. They are great, I miss it heaps! If I was to buy a new car again, a sunroof would definately be on my options list.

[vyssbeast]

the wait will kill ya ... but you wont regret it if you decide to!

ive got one in my car, my mums got a calais without

i get in here car n i feel its cramped, the light coming in makes it feel more spacious not to mention in summer when youve got some light/wind coming in, its an awesome addition

and a good point to add when it comes time to sell - depends how hard the wait is gonna hurt ya ... but im a firm believer in patience pays off

[Belzey]

I had a sunroof on my last car and used it heaps I thought I would miss it but honestly I do not miss it at all. The reason I did not get a sunroof is exactly what everyone says the wait.. I am too impatient for that.

[VT2HSVR8]

Yeah it's the wait that will get me, I'm getting it on fleet and the plan is to take it away on christmas holidays, which simply won't be possible if I have to wait on the sunroof. If there was some overriding reason to get one aside from the look then I may have waited, but I think I may just have to pass.

Thanks for the responses guys. :)

[KeenGolfer]

How much do the sunroofs intrude on the inside space wise? I sat in a WRX the other day with sunroof and bugger me if I couldn't sit up straight (I'm 6'2") as the sunroof around the edges intruded a couple of inches into the cabin.

[BLACK expreSS-V]

Hi guys,

I got the sunroof in my SSV.

I had the same issue - get one immediately or wait months for a roof.

Luckily I fell over a car in stock with a sunroof already in there.

I love the sunroof. You realise how good it is when you get into a VE without one, it feels so closed in.

As far as headroom goes, it does take an inch or so, but I am 6'2" and I have no problems in the back, still room there...

Its one of those things, you will not miss it if your last car didn't have one, but if you have one you will...

[spuddamonaro]

Not to mention how good it looks in glamour photos with the back tilted up!! :woot: :driving:

[VZSS250]

The "sunroof tilted up" look is SO VERY 2002. Full respect to you spuddamonaro, but I'm over it.

Your paying all that money and then you have to wait a couple of months plus lose an inch in headroom. It is a great luxury feature, but your problem is not easy to resolve because of the drawbacks. Sorry, I wouldn't be able to decide either.

[HSVDKB]

Looks like I'm in the minority but I prefer cars without them. They look untidy and the aircon does the trick for keeping cool and yes I have owned a car with a one in.

[x_er_o]

My VX SS is 5years old, it has no leaks and the seals are all good (obviously looked after by the other owners. (in other cars ive had seals have dried up and had leaks) the sunroof is an aftermarket one and looks a lot better designed then factory ones ive seen. Mine also has little tubes that are in the guttering of the sunroof and come out near the door hinges to expell any water that does get in. Internarnal roof height is a bit lower then usual, maybee about 15mm which isn't noticed at all with the sliding door open but once you close it (which u will if the sun is directly above) the roof seems to get a lot closer and me being tall doesn't help. The other thing is the dome light is a fair reach back which is a pain in the arse. (Has to be moved for the sun roof) had a sunroof a few cars back and could never ever buy a car without one since, it's the best option on the list IMO (cept the V8). I get in the work car now and reach for the sunroof.

JUST DOIT MATE!!!!!

[VYSSBlack]

I was also lucky enough to get a VE SSV with a sunroof that was just being completed. Only a two week wait from time of order to delivery.
This is my first car with a sunroof. Im glad I have it now, I absolutley love it and the weather lately has been perfect for it. If you can wait, then get it.

[Bazza76]

I got he sunroof on mine, wanted it since I'd never had a car with a sunroof before. Absolutely love it. As above, if you can wait, get it.:thumbsup:

[Vulture]

If you're 'umming and arrring' then just do it as it'll at least make the car more sellable down the track. I agree with the comments about making the car feel more open. Try it and if you don't like it then don't do it for the next car.

[Freaky]

serious question. dont sunroofs weigh another 30-40kgs extra when fitted with the surrounding structure ?

Recall reading this somewhere, where the weight so high raises the centre of gravity up ever so slightly.

[spuddamonaro]

The "sunroof tilted up" look is SO VERY 2002. Full respect to you spuddamonaro, but I'm over it. .

You may be over it, but i dont think that your going to sit there and say a black VZ Senator or GTO with all the lights on, nicely polished with the sunroof tipped up, under the stars/ moon light does not look $hit hot!! :woot: (an indication of my ideas for the next car i buy!!!) I think that most would agree.

But hey, to each their own!!

Pete

[lowriding]

i do like sunroofs , had 3 cars with an electric roof. What i found however is i never opened them anywhere near as much as i thought . 90 % of the time its closed ,it is definately a mood thing . Going to and from work - nup , winter - nup , heavy rain - nup ,blind was always closed in summer days etc. When there great they awesome like at night cruising,but hardly used personally.

[jed55]

I'd never given sunroofs much thought, never wanted one. I bought a vt clubby which had one fitted. The salesman was talking it up while I was thinking "big deal" & told him so. Wanted the car for many other reasons. :D

Living with it I decide it was a good bit of gear, so when I bought the Z clubbie I had one fitted as soon as possible. I rarely close the shade as I enjoy the open feeling in the cabin, and with the all black interior it is much lighter as well.

Sorry VZSS250, I'm still living in the 60's :cool: . 2002 is still a long way off :cheers: .

If you don't want to wait, you can always get one fitted later on.

Cheers, John

[lowriding]

If you don't want to wait, you can always get one fitted later on.



Not really .The VE sunroof is not farmed out anymore ,it's factory fitted on the prod . line - it has a different roof panel ,and with canbus wiring systems theres alot of re -routing of wires ,and a whole bunch of other rejigging of things . these days its basically option at new or do without .

regards

[gasguz]

Go the sunroof if you can wait, I had 1 in the R8, now in the SS it is missing, even though I have had the SS for a few years now out of habit I still go to hit the button some times :doh:

[HRT 8]

How much do the sunroofs intrude on the inside space wise? I sat in a WRX the other day with sunroof and bugger me if I couldn't sit up straight (I'm 6'2") as the sunroof around the edges intruded a couple of inches into the cabin.

Funny you mention that.
I couldnt fit inside an SSV with a sunroof fitted. So I didnt buy one!!!. ;)

At 6'9" a sunroof isnt an option I could have as my head was on the roof lining.

Id hazard a guess that 6'6" would be about the limit. Seating positions will vary between individuals obviously.

[Venom XR]

I love my sunroof, and have it open as much as the weather allows! Go for it if the budget allows.

[jed55]

Not really .The VE sunroof is not farmed out anymore ,it's factory fitted on the prod . line - it has a different roof panel ,and with canbus wiring systems theres alot of re -routing of wires ,and a whole bunch of other rejigging of things . these days its basically option at new or do without .

regards

Fair enough. I can imagine the aftermarket fitters wouldn't be very happy with that.

Cheers, John

[Noah]

Funny you mention that.
I couldnt fit inside an SSV with a sunroof fitted. So I didnt buy one!!!. ;)

At 6'9" a sunroof isnt an option I could have as my head was on the roof lining.

Id hazard a guess that 6'6" would be about the limit. Seating positions will vary between individuals obviously.

You could always put the seat right up and drive with your head out the Sun Roof :lmao: :lmao:

Seriously, go the Sun Roof! I did for all the reasons mentioned in other posts.

Another bonus I've noticed, with just the front or any other window/s down, the air buffeting is more than I ever noticed in any other Commodore?? (anyone else noticed this?). :werd:
So I open the Roof for air, much better IMO.

[sHr3D]

Go to agree with those that support the sunroof. In the VY Clubbie it was belt on, traction control off, drive away.

Now it is belt on, sunroof open and drive away.

It gives a far more gentle breeze than a window down. My missues hates windows down but doesn't say a word if I open the roof.

Couldn't live without it.

[mustanger]

If you are thinking about a roof ,that means that you want a roof. Don`t worry too much about the wait,all will be forgotten once you have got what you wanted.:woot:

[EfiJy]

does all the waiting mean that ve sales could be better than they are? it sounds like a lot of peeps are waiting for there ves. :cussing:

[mustanger]

does all the waiting mean that ve sales could be better than they are? it sounds like a lot of peeps are waiting for there ves. :cussing:

I am still yet to see a HSV with a sunroof:banghead:

[RichieRedHotSS]

Not really .The VE sunroof is not farmed out anymore ,it's factory fitted on the prod . line - it has a different roof panel ,and with canbus wiring systems theres alot of re -routing of wires ,and a whole bunch of other rejigging of things . these days its basically option at new or do without .

regards

I believe you also lose part of the roof console (lights / sunglass holder), no big deal but something to consider I guess.

[HSVMAN]

Not really .The VE sunroof is not farmed out anymore ,it's factory fitted on the prod . line - it has a different roof panel ,and with canbus wiring systems theres alot of re -routing of wires ,and a whole bunch of other rejigging of things . these days its basically option at new or do without .
regards

You can still fit a sunroof to VE, dont believe all that you are told. We have a professional installer here in Auck that fits the same brand roof that Holden use. Only difference is the a/market roof is $3700 and Holden's price is $2700 plus the wait :)

[Bazza76]

I hope he fits the different roof lining that holden supply aswell

[lowriding]

You can still fit a sunroof to VE, dont believe all that you are told. We have a professional installer here in Auck that fits the same brand roof that Holden use. Only difference is the a/market roof is $3700 and Holden's price is $2700 plus the wait :)


I have no doubt it can be done but would it be as professional ?The Holden doco showed the cars fitted with the cut roof as a raw shell on the line before paint , plus all the changes ,i would doubt , in this case , the aftermarket would do as good a job .Plus as you say the factory roof is cheaper , patience is the only downside .

regards

[Wonky]

You can still fit a sunroof to VE, dont believe all that you are told. We have a professional installer here in Auck that fits the same brand roof that Holden use. Only difference is the a/market roof is $3700 and Holden's price is $2700 plus the wait :)
The sunroof here is only A$1690 so given the conversion rate between A$ and NZ$ $2700 sounds very high???? Direct conversion is under NZ$2000 (at current 1.14/87 conversion rate).

[CrashTestDummy]

Does anyone actually know what the delay with the sunroofs actually is? My dealer said that my car has been built but is still in adelaide waiting at HSVi for the sunroof to be fitted... no idea whether to believe him or not though and i still can't even get a firm ETA.

[HSVMAN]

The sunroof here is only A$1690 so given the conversion rate between A$ and NZ$ $2700 sounds very high???? Direct conversion is under NZ$2000 (at current 1.14/87 conversion rate).

No mate we get wroughted here on many parts supplied or fitted ex Aus :(

I got the a/market price wrong though it's $3200 incl GST here.

The job done is always professional by these guys and includes extra bracing for the roof. Only got 2 booked so far but havent seen one done yet. Will be on a Black GTS arriving end of month so will take pics

[black stallion]

I went to order an SSV today with a sunroof. Dealer said 4 months for what I wanted. Also said the sunroof is fitted at HSVi and not on the line. If I wanted an SSV now, the same Hollandia unit can be fitted. So I ordered and will have the Hollandia unit fitted. Waiting 4 months was not an option for me!

[BLACK expreSS-V]

Walkinshaw has announced today (on this site) that they are releasing an aftermarket Sunroof too. They call it their "Performance Sunroof".

So looks like we can put the comments about "must be done on the factory production line due to roof bracing and wiring layouts etc" to bed once and for all.

If you can't wait months for your sunroofed E-Series or VE you now have another choice.

[lowriding]

I went to order an SSV today with a sunroof. Dealer said 4 months for what I wanted. Also said the sunroof is fitted at HSVi and not on the line. If I wanted an SSV now, the same Hollandia unit can be fitted. So I ordered and will have the Hollandia unit fitted. Waiting 4 months was not an option for me!

Not true .Thats an aftermarket roof .Not factory ,hence why you skip the 4 month wait ,if they were all done there your wait would be the same wouldn't it ;) I'm not saying that its better or worse or whatever but dont beleive a dealer telling you "do it this way that is how they're all done here anyway" BS .Just so you do know the facts, thats all . The factory sunroof is most definately fitted on the line and rolls off complete .

Walkinshaw has announced today (on this site) that they are releasing an aftermarket Sunroof too. They call it their "Performance Sunroof".
So looks like we can put the comments about "must be done on the factory production line due to roof bracing and wiring layouts etc" to bed once and for all.

I dont think anyone said it had to be done on the factory line ,with the aftermarket anything is possible but you have to do your own research on how its done ,who does it ,the quality and so on.I am sure i heard the VE with a factory roof has a different stamped roof panel ,as seen below its fitted very early in the process,so its sounds correct. Obviously any aftermarket wouldn't do this but would cut into the existing roof of a completed car with a grinder or similar to acheive their end.Better or worse or the same ? Who knows,i have had aftermarket hollandias before and didnt have any dramas but you pays your money and take your chances

http://static.flickr.com/99/293679771_151270c750.jpg

and off the line ...

http://static.flickr.com/101/293683188_1cdc463535.jpg

regards,

[jamesd]

Go for it. Sunroofs are great, they open up the car. Especially good on long night cruises.

[BLACK expreSS-V]

lowriding - nice photos, well done.

[chilly]

The other thing is the dome light is a fair reach back which is a pain in the arse. (Has to be moved for the sun roof)


i have the same car with sunroof but put the sunglass holder in and now have great interior lights

[Gooey]

Does anyone actually know what the delay with the sunroofs actually is? My dealer said that my car has been built but is still in adelaide waiting at HSVi for the sunroof to be fitted... no idea whether to believe him or not though and i still can't even get a firm ETA.

this sounds odd as i am sure they are fitted down the line. mine arrived fitted before it went to hsvi. so i believe they are fitted down the line and ur dealer is bullshitting you.

andrew

[CalaisRider]

I waited a while for my new VE and it has a sunroof. Its the first car I have had with one!!

Suppose the question is - Would I get a sunroof if I bought another car. Does the sun rise in the morning???? I absolutely love it and would never go back!! IMO if I were you, I would get your new car sunroofed - worth the wait and I love the look as well.

Pete

[VZSS250]

My other car is a convertible (MX-5) so there's no excitement factor in a sunroof for me. Although a sunroof looks fantastic and is a great luxury there are a number of drawbacks:

- lose an inch in headroom (better in the VE?)
- additional cost
- additional waiting time

My VS SS had a sunroof, and it was a great feature in a car that was otherwise bland interior wise, but in a VE SS-V with all the bells and whistles cars get these days, not having a sunroof is not so bad. My last three commodores since have not had a sunroof and I have never thought "geez, wish I had a sunroof". But then again, if i had one I'd be wrapped.

So I've been no help...there!

[CalaisRider]

My other car is a convertible (MX-5) so there's no excitement factor in a sunroof for me. Although a sunroof looks fantastic and is a great luxury there are a number of drawbacks:

- lose an inch in headroom (better in the VE?)
- additional cost
- additional waiting time

My VS SS had a sunroof, and it was a great feature in a car that was otherwise bland interior wise, but in a VE SS-V with all the bells and whistles cars get these days, not having a sunroof is not so bad. My last three commodores since have not had a sunroof and I have never thought "geez, wish I had a sunroof". But then again, if i had one I'd be wrapped.

So I've been no help...there!

Man you have the best of both worlds. The feel of a classy convertible with the top down is a great sensation. No wonder your ambivalent to sunroofs.:thumbsup:

[mustanger]

I think a car with a sunroof will sell quicker than a car without one. It will not mean that you will get that much more for it ,but help the sale when you are ready to sell..........Just another point of view.

[klink]

i have the same car with sunroof but put the sunglass holder in and now have great interior lights

Hi Chilly,

Is yours a factory fitted or is it the same as the factory one fitted at a sunroof place? As i was wondering if you intergrated the controls into your sunglass holder.

I am looking into putting one in my ss and have been looking at the hollandia 700 which is the same as the ve commodores and they are about 2500, then 200 if you want a rain sensor, then if you want the factory look 200 as the fold the metal like in the factory and then you just have to get your roof resprayed and the cost of that will depend how good your spray painter is if they can blow it in or have to do the whole roof, have seen shops quoting 1000 for the roof respray, pretty dear.

[AussieTone]

I have never had a car with a sunroof. Some very interesting comments in this thread. Does having a sunroof increase the temperature in the car especially when parked in the sun and does anyone find the A/C works that bit harder to maintain the temperature when the sunroof is fitted.

I like the looks of them but have always looked at it from the cost V what you get. If funds were readily available I might be tempted to get one on a new car but if on a budget would rather use that money for edit etc

[HSVMAN]

I have never had a car with a sunroof. Some very interesting comments in this thread. Does having a sunroof increase the temperature in the car especially when parked in the sun and does anyone find the A/C works that bit harder to maintain the temperature when the sunroof is fitted.

I like the looks of them but have always looked at it from the cost V what you get. If funds were readily available I might be tempted to get one on a new car but if on a budget would rather use that money for edit etc

AussieTone, factory sunroofs have a sliding internal cover that block the light however the glass is dark tinted and blocks most UV rays.
With any car if you have a window or sunroof open it will effect the air cond operation to some extent.
I like the look of them too, but do you get the dollar value back? Its all subjective. Bit like asking if you get the dollar value back on a set of wheels.
Like most mods or add-ons the value is entirely perceived by the original purchaser but not necessarrily reflected in resale.
I'm arranging an a/market roof in a GTS this week so Im keen to see what it looks like in comparison to the factory fit

[HSVMAN]

The after market roof looks great. It has same switches and functions (same roof) with only sign being slightly different contour in hood lining rear of the opening. Overall it looks no different and is an option for those not wanting to wait although it costs slightly more here

[JNP304]

I think generally it would help with resale. If in three years time you want to sell your VE and there are 5 others in the paper with the same specs but yours has the roof it would be easier to sell generally. I looked for ages to get an second hand SS with 6m leather and roof. In the end all I could find was 6m and leather. If there was one with a roof I would have paid extra. On nice warm nights we take out the B200 because of the full panoramic roof its awesome.

[Pickles]

We've had several cars with sunroofs, some purchased with, some fitted during our ownership-I just love them.
However, we didn't order one with the GTO, because (a) on the Monaro/GTO, because of the curvature of the roof, it only opens 65%. (b) The GTO has a really nice roofline--we thought that a large black panel in the middle of a bright yellow roof would spoil that, however it would not be noticable in a darker car.
I wouldn't hesitate to fit one to a new SSV, but I'd want the factory item, fitted "on line", & I'd be prepared to wait. We waited 6 months for the GTO!
Would you also option the 20" wheels, which look awesome- they're the pick of the Holden VE wheels I reckon.
Cheers, Pickles.

[BarneyG]

My previous car (Vectra) had a sunroof, my VX SS does not.

Did I order it on my Vectra just because I thought it was 'cool'? YES!
Did I use it heaps? YES!
Do I miss it alot on my SS? YES! YES! YES!

They are fantastic. I opened it right up on nice sunny days or partly open depending on how much breeze I wanted. I would tilt it up a bit even on rainy days to get fresh air circulating. They are great, I miss it heaps! If I was to buy a new car again, a sunroof would definately be on my options list.

YES YES YES couldnt agree more with IgottaLS1:yup: :yup: :yup:

[Stealthy TT]

I have a sunroof on my VXSS, and I also asked for one when ordering my R8 (ETA Feb 17, can't wait!) - next best thing to having a convertable IMO.
As some of the previous posters have pointed out it defintely makes the car feel more spacious, and it's also a great way to get fresh air into the car without the buffeting you get from having a window down.
They are also good for a quick way to get the hot stuffy air out of your car if you've left it parked in the sun on a hot day - in fact if you're parking in a safe place, you can leave the roof tilted up and the interior temp will be noticably cooler when you return.
I spend at least 2 hours in my car every day (takes me about an hour to get to work) and I have the sunroof open at every opportunity. For me, it just enhances the overall driving experience...defitnely a 'must have'.

[macca_779]

I love my sunroof and will always try and get one in future cars too. Its geat on a sunny day with all windows down and roof open.

[Pulse 8]

We've had several cars with sunroofs, some purchased with, some fitted during our ownership-I just love them.
However, we didn't order one with the GTO, because (a) on the Monaro/GTO, because of the curvature of the roof, it only opens 65%. (b) The GTO has a really nice roofline--we thought that a large black panel in the middle of a bright yellow roof would spoil that, however it would not be noticable in a darker car.
I wouldn't hesitate to fit one to a new SSV, but I'd want the factory item, fitted "on line", & I'd be prepared to wait. We waited 6 months for the GTO!
Would you also option the 20" wheels, which look awesome- they're the pick of the Holden VE wheels I reckon.
Cheers, Pickles.

Got to disagree Pickles. As you know I option every new car I buy with a roof and have done so since my first brand new HSV VP Clubsport in 1992.Since then I have had them fitted to no less than eight of my HSV,s and Monaro,s.
So far we have had one in the CV8Z and I ordered the GTO LE with roof as well.I even had an electric roof retrofitted to my old VS V8 olympic edition ute.I understand what you mean with the roof not sliding back the full distance in the Monaro but to be honest I find 95 per cent of the time I only use the tilt function for air circulation.
I simply would not own a car now without the roof option and in the new year there will be one going into the other halfs recently aquired CV8 V2.
I find they are even better in the coupe,s as the lower roofline and no rear doors can provide an enclosed feeling but with the roof it definately opens up the cabin feel.
Each to his own but my advice is you are thinking of a roof for the first time then go for it and then at least you wont die wondering !!:yahoo:

[Pickles]

I knew you'd say that!! And, as you know, I love sunroofs too, but in some of my cars, I just haven't thought them appropriate.
With the roof in your ute, was that the type where the glass slides back over the top of the roof?-never seen one in a ute-there wouldn't be many fitted to a ute, would there?
Who is going to install the roof on your new "addition"?-Maybe HBD, or HSVi as I think they call themselves now, could retro fit one for you- you'd get a certificate & then it would be factory.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Pulse 8]

I knew you'd say that!! And, as you know, I love sunroofs too, but in some of my cars, I just haven't thought them appropriate.
With the roof in your ute, was that the type where the glass slides back over the top of the roof?-never seen one in a ute-there wouldn't be many fitted to a ute, would there?
Who is going to install the roof on your new "addition"?-Maybe HBD, or HSVi as I think they call themselves now, could retro fit one for you- you'd get a certificate & then it would be factory.
Cheers, Pickles.

Yes Mate- The ute type we used was the 2 function roof. It either tilted or slid out externally. Ive seen a few utes since with the same roof.
With regards to the "new addition" I plan to get Prestige Sunroofs at Burwood to fit it. Arent they the same crowd that fitted your roof to to your old Brock Group A.
Anyway I am happy to use these guys as they have an excellent reputation in the sunroof game.
Walkinshaw Performance can do them now too I think.

[Pickles]

Yes Mate- The ute type we used was the 2 function roof. It either tilted or slid out externally. Ive seen a few utes since with the same roof.
With regards to the "new addition" I plan to get Prestige Sunroofs at Burwood to fit it. Arent they the same crowd that fitted your roof to to your old Brock Group A.
Anyway I am happy to use these guys as they have an excellent reputation in the sunroof game.
Walkinshaw Performance can do them now too I think.
We'll have to stop meeting like this!!. I've heard that Peter Puleo,
("Mr Sunroof"), is no longer involved with Prestige Sunroofs-don't know whether it's true or not--but there was nothing he didn't know about sunroofs, that's for sure!
Cheers, Pickles.

[Pulse 8]

We'll have to stop meeting like this!!. I've heard that Peter Puleo,
("Mr Sunroof"), is no longer involved with Prestige Sunroofs-don't know whether it's true or not--but there was nothing he didn't know about sunroofs, that's for sure!
Cheers, Pickles.

Thanks for letting me know that Peter may have bailed. I will definately check that before I commit to getting it done. Might have to do some more research.

[ace185]

Dude, In my opinion they look great and probably help resale in the majority of cases. My only issue from experience is the glare of the sun coming through them at certain angles which can be annoying in your line of sight. If this won't bother you then go for it. If you are asking the question about the roof in the first place - it probably means that you should "just do it" !!!:headbang:

[hsvcsv]

Diffently sunroof, especially if your in two minds, i've never looked back since getting mine put in and my next car shall have one too.

[vyssbeast]

My only issue from experience is the glare of the sun coming through them at certain angles which can be annoying in your line of sight.

never had this problem ... dark tint means it shouldnt be, unless of course you got it open. In that case the tilt function is a nice compromise

[sunny]

Hi every one just to answer one point Peter Puleo retired he did not bail, his business Prestige Sunroofs is now being run by Paul Dibbs he has been with Prestige Sunroofs for a very long time as he was Peters shop manager in control of all installations etc . All Webasto -Hollandia Sunroof Distributors adhere to very strict guidelines so as to give the best possible sunroof installations possible . Regards Howard East Coast Sunroofs Queensland