summons to court w.a.

[quadrio]

hi, just trying to find out some info, my missus just got pulled over in my statesman for having a fake front number plate, it is actually my real plate but the front one has been made smaller for the intercooler, according to the coppa, he said he cant hand out an infringement for it, so she will have to go to court, what would be the go now and what will they try and do her for? has anyone had this problem? also im in perth w.a.

here is a pic of the plate
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/quadrio/Picture1690.jpg

[BLQWN]

Mate, with all the hoo-ha about speeding cameras and hoon laws over here at the moment, she should go in, plead guilty and cop it.
You can get slimline front plates for it you know....

[mustanger]

She will just get a fine for not displaying a government issued number plate. In Victoria ,it is a fine and demerit points.:bawl:

[SSBarney]

Take the same pic in to court. Its clearly a charge far more harsh than the actually trimming of your plate.
Unfortunately i won't be ur judge:lol: but i would say wtf is the problem.
Ur missus must have pissed off the copper for him to want to go to court over that.

[Dug]

Off topic I know, but I wanna know more about what's in that stato that requires an intercooler!

[SS Sportswagon]

Maybe a hair dryer or a blower :stick:

[vxSSilver]

i had my car confiscated for excessive noise recently, and told my court summons would come in the mail. it came about 2 weeks later.... all this paper work stuff.... and then court date is 6 weeks after that.

i guess u just wait now and see what comes in the mail!

[Road Warrior]

Hmm. So you say it is the same as the DPI issued plate, just custom made? (ie does it have the same characters as the standard issue one).

If it bears the same characters then I would object to being charged with having a 'false' plate. To say that the plate is 'false' is implying that the plate is fake and therefore designed to conceal or otherwise misrepresent the identity of the vehicle. It naturally follows from that, that you would have a motive for misrepresenting the identity of the vehicle (which I am sure you do not) and by virtue of that the implication is that you have attempted to mislead the police, which is both objectionable and insulting.

They would probably just rip you for having a non-DPI issue plate (or 'unapproved' plate). But if they try the old 'fake' plate caper, I would challenge it for the reasons I have already outlined.

[SSBarney]

i had my car confiscated for excessive noise recently, and told my court summons would come in the mail. it came about 2 weeks later.... all this paper work stuff.... and then court date is 6 weeks after that.

i guess u just wait now and see what comes in the mail!

Car confiscation for excessive noise??.....that is getting strict.... or was the excessive noise whilst doing a burnout?

[Tre-Cool]

if you want to fight it, use the above comment.

The first summons is basically, do you plead guilty or not guilty.

if you plead guilty you finish your court appearance that day. If not, they reschedulle a hearing to you can lay down your defence.

[vxSSilver]

Car confiscation for excessive noise??.....that is getting strict.... or was the excessive noise whilst doing a burnout?

was pulling out onto the highway in the wet... traction control on... mini spin... as much as it can with TC on..... but the court summons says excessive noise

[quadrio]

thanks everyone for these comments, very helpful. yes ROAD WARRIOR you are correct the plate is identical to the original, just smaller
thanks once again

[SV8VZ]

Quadrio,

You have got off lightly compared to the bike riders in Perth of late.
There has been a blitz on custom made, small plates, as well as the common occurence (on bikes) to have the rego label holder covering a letter or digit of the rego plate.

On a recent organised ride for an un-named bike group, the entire group was pulled, and all bikes checked for compliance of plates and the positioning of rego label holders.

Any bike riders found with plates obscured or undersized, not only received a summons, but had their "false" plates removed. They were then told not to move the bike until the original plate was re-fitted, and to find another means of getting home.

Go figure...:rolleyes:

[jerrel]

Quadrio,

You have got off lightly compared to the bike riders in Perth of late.
There has been a blitz on custom made, small plates, as well as the common occurence (on bikes) to have the rego label holder covering a letter or digit of the rego plate.

On a recent organised ride for an un-named bike group, the entire group was pulled, and all bikes checked for compliance of plates and the positioning of rego label holders.

Any bike riders found with plates obscured or undersized, not only received a summons, but had their "false" plates removed. They were then told not to move the bike until the original plate was re-fitted, and to find another means of getting home.

Go figure...:rolleyes:

gezz thats really rough. i guess in those circumstances i would say **** you and ride off. lol children theses days.

[klink]

Hmm. So you say it is the same as the DPI issued plate, just custom made? (ie does it have the same characters as the standard issue one).

If it bears the same characters then I would object to being charged with having a 'false' plate. To say that the plate is 'false' is implying that the plate is fake and therefore designed to conceal or otherwise misrepresent the identity of the vehicle. It naturally follows from that, that you would have a motive for misrepresenting the identity of the vehicle (which I am sure you do not) and by virtue of that the implication is that you have attempted to mislead the police, which is both objectionable and insulting.

They would probably just rip you for having a non-DPI issue plate (or 'unapproved' plate). But if they try the old 'fake' plate caper, I would challenge it for the reasons I have already outlined.


You would need to look into the rules governing number plates.

I was looking at importing some custom made plates, same size, raised lettering, reflective etc. But the law in SA has a clause saying that the plates must be made by an authorised company but the motor rego mob will not tell you who is the authorised manufacturers are.

So i would check out that ruling for WA.

[VX2VESS]

You would need to look into the rules governing number plates.

I was looking at importing some custom made plates, same size, raised lettering, reflective etc. But the law in SA has a clause saying that the plates must be made by an authorised company but the motor rego mob will not tell you who is the authorised manufacturers are.

So i would check out that ruling for WA.

inmates incorporated

[SV8VZ]

gezz thats really rough. i guess in those circumstances i would say **** you and ride off. lol children theses days.

Yup,

Run all the red lights that have cameras, go past the speed cameras throwing the bird, and ride home flat out.....

What are they going to get a picture of now eh :lol:

[A^K^T]

Quadrio,

You have got off lightly compared to the bike riders in Perth of late.
There has been a blitz on custom made, small plates, as well as the common occurence (on bikes) to have the rego label holder covering a letter or digit of the rego plate.

On a recent organised ride for an un-named bike group, the entire group was pulled, and all bikes checked for compliance of plates and the positioning of rego label holders.

Any bike riders found with plates obscured or undersized, not only received a summons, but had their "false" plates removed. They were then told not to move the bike until the original plate was re-fitted, and to find another means of getting home.

Go figure...:rolleyes:

I wonder if they are making up for when they were on a go slow campaign when they were negotiating for their last pay rise (W.A Police that is)

[WalksGTO]

Like said before there is a big crack down on it at the moment.

http://www.slp.wa.gov.au/statutes/regs.nsf/3c0405a7241b5fe648256810003b1b1d/0a78f46dd8c691af48256c4800176b3c?OpenDocument

http://www.slp.wa.gov.au/statutes/regs.nsf/3c0405a7241b5fe648256810003b1b1d/13cd7950b644f5c448256c4800176b44?OpenDocument

If the summons comes then, your mrs does not have to attend court, she can plead on the back of her summons and send it in. It is her responsility to call up the court and find out what is happening with the matter.

[harey]

As said before, slimline plates?? :shiner:

[quadrio]

just went out to the car this morning and have found that the cop has taken off the numberplate and kept it, he didnt even say anything to the missus, she said he did have it off to look at it, he must of kept it?

[mustanger]

just went out to the car this morning and have found that the cop has taken off the numberplate and kept it, he didnt even say anything to the missus, she said he did have it off to look at it, he must of kept it?

He might be keeping it as evidence.:(

[Vulture]

Quadrio,

You have got off lightly compared to the bike riders in Perth of late.
There has been a blitz on custom made, small plates, as well as the common occurence (on bikes) to have the rego label holder covering a letter or digit of the rego plate.

On a recent organised ride for an un-named bike group, the entire group was pulled, and all bikes checked for compliance of plates and the positioning of rego label holders.

Any bike riders found with plates obscured or undersized, not only received a summons, but had their "false" plates removed. They were then told not to move the bike until the original plate was re-fitted, and to find another means of getting home.

Go figure...:rolleyes:

Aaaah, how wonderful for Police public relations to treat people like that - even if they were only following the letter of the law. Wonder if they would be that pedantic with your house break-in?

[nathanvlturbo]

i would be talking to a lawyer to see what they say, if she pleads guilty i wonder what the penalty will be

[bruce350]

Hmm. So you say it is the same as the DPI issued plate, just custom made? (ie does it have the same characters as the standard issue one).

If it bears the same characters then I would object to being charged with having a 'false' plate. To say that the plate is 'false' is implying that the plate is fake and therefore designed to conceal or otherwise misrepresent the identity of the vehicle. It naturally follows from that, that you would have a motive for misrepresenting the identity of the vehicle (which I am sure you do not) and by virtue of that the implication is that you have attempted to mislead the police, which is both objectionable and insulting.

They would probably just rip you for having a non-DPI issue plate (or 'unapproved' plate). But if they try the old 'fake' plate caper, I would challenge it for the reasons I have already outlined.

Crikeys....can you be my lawyer?

[Road Warrior]

just went out to the car this morning and have found that the cop has taken off the numberplate and kept it, he didnt even say anything to the missus, she said he did have it off to look at it, he must of kept it?

They are permitted to confiscate the plate under the regs. Further to that, the Police must notify you in writing after seizure that the plate may be destroyed and that you may appeal to the Director General of Licensing to have the plate returned. They generally have to give 10 or 14 days or whatever it is to appeal once you get your letter from the bacon. If you don't get a letter, start kicking up a stink.


Crikeys....can you be my lawyer?

Nup, i'm just a tryhard :D

[daza]

You would need to look into the rules governing number plates.

I was looking at importing some custom made plates, same size, raised lettering, reflective etc. But the law in SA has a clause saying that the plates must be made by an authorised company but the motor rego mob will not tell you who is the authorised manufacturers are.

So i would check out that ruling for WA.

There used to be a shop in Adelaide just up from D&T that did number plates but I am not sure if they are still there.